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Hi Visti,

 

Om Sri Sai Ram.

 

In my case - Sep 24 1975, 11:44:50, Delhi, India.

 

Me is placed in 4th house from Karkamsa(Cancer) and it is also my Ishta devata.

What would be the gati in this case?

 

Will Chandra-upapada be the arudha of the 12th house from Moon in the D-1 chart?

That would be Sagittarius. What does that tell about the direction of the mind?

 

Saras

 

 

, " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Nandkumar, Namaskar

>

> The planets in the fourth from karakamsa give an idea as to which direction

> the person is on, i.e. the Gati. This is seen from the fourth house, which

> is the house of the mother... hence Adi Sankaras statement; " Gatistvam

> Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani... " With Ketu, Moon or Venus in the fourth, the

> Gati is towards mukti, but the Istha Devata must finally grant this to you.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

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> ***

>

> _____

>

> On

> Behalf Of Nandkumar Chinai

> 01 September 2005 19:32

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka--> Vistiji

>

>

>

> Dear Visitiji:

>

>

>

> I have Ketu in the 4th from karakamsa, in the Navamsa chart. Can I safely

> say that I have a good chance to get out of the 'wheel of time' as you have

> explained below ?

>

>

>

> Hare Krishna

>

> Nandkumar

>

>

>

> PS: .Jhd file attached for your kind perusal and insightful comments.

>

> Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar

>

> Ketu is the only one who takes one out of the `wheel of time' also known as

> the Kala Chakra, hence he gives moksha.

>

>

>

> As for Upapada and punya chakra, upasana, etc. Sri Krishna states that one

> who is a jeevan-mukti in this birth will surely get moksha. So if one has

> performed serious upasana and become a jeevanmukti through this, then one

> can get moksha.

>

>

>

> An indication of the natural direction of the mind can be seen from the

> Chandra-upapada of the Janma-Jataka (birth chart). A Prasna Jataka will

> reveal what is the current direction so far, and the Punya Chakra (death

> chart), will reveal where the mind was at the time of death, and hence which

> loka one will go to. From the janma-jataka we suggest remedies to make the

> direction better, and we can check this direction with time using the prasna

> jataka.

>

> Jaimini also talks about the adhana chakra in this regard, which is the

> chart for conception.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com/>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> 31 August 2005 23:42

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka

>

>

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> > 1.You have said " ...4 from Karakamsa for Way of soul,

> > if benefics are there then You are on good way.. " .

> >

> > Ketu in 4'th from Karakamsa makes Moksha yoga - so

> > here Ketu acts as a benefic or a malefic planet?

> > Is not Ketu a natural malefic planet?

>

> Ketu is for Moksha, I think Jaimini lists Ketu between benefics.

> Mars, Rahu & Saturn are problematic in these place.

> Rahu as Atmakaraka can also be problematic depends on position.

>

>

> >

> > Also which is good for Moksha - Only Ketu in 4'th from

> > Karakamsa or Ketu+Ju/Ve in 4'th from karakamsa?

>

> Ketu is sufficient for this Yoga, Venus & Jupiter gives good direction.

>

> >

> > 2.You have said " where we go after death should be

> > seen in Upapada from Moon " - Could you give any simple

> > example? What is the combination for which after death

> > one's Atma becomes a " Ghost " on the Earth - neither

> > gets " Moksha " nor takes " rebirth " ?

>

> Rahu in Punya Lagna indicate birth as a ghost If my rememberance is good.

>

> See the planet which lording the Upapada from Moon, Mercury and Saturn gives

>

> hell, this is from Deva Keralam and this I think is not sufficient. Guruji

> has some other secrets...Upapada is giving...Moon is Mind..Giving of Mind is

>

> focus..so where Your mind is in the moment of death..then You go there per

> Bhagavad Gita. But there could be mercy of Krsna through Upasana done in

> life. There must be something more..I think Prasna would be valuable

> instrument!

>

> Regards Rafal Gendarz

>

>

>

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sourav

> >

> > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sourav

> > 1. where we go after death should be seen in Upapada

> > from Moon.

> > 2. rasi is about material manifestation, while

> > Upasanamsa is about Your

> > sadhana and spiritual aspiration & attitude, soul

> > matters are seen in

> > Dharmamsa(d-9) and Shastyamsa (d-30), while our past

> > birth is also seen in

> > Drekkana per Varahamihira & Parasara.

> > I was taught to look at 4 from Karakamsa for Way of

> > soul, if benefics are

> > there then You are on good way. 12 from Karakamsa

> > indicate if You will

> > liberate & who will liberate You hence Ishta !

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > " Sourav Guchhait " <sourav6282

> >

> > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:50 PM

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka

> >

> >

> >> Dear Gurus,

> >>

> >> I want to ask that:-

> >>

> >> 1.Ketu is in 4'th or 12'th from Karakamsa " gives

> >> Moksha " or " gives 'chance' to get Moksha " to the

> >> Native?

> >>

> >> 2.Also do we have to look only in Navamsha(D-9)? Not

> >> in Rashi Chart(D-1) or Dharmangsa(D-20) for " Moksha

> >> yoga " ?

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Sourav

> >>

> >> --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Rama,

> >>>

> >>> Comments below.

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> > Does Mokshakaraka means 'the one who ensures no

> >>> more birth / death'?

> >>>

> >>> Moksha - liberation.

> >>> Karaka - one who signifies (in free translation)

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> > Then how does a chaya graha like Ketu be a

> >>> mokshakaraka?

> >>>

> >>> Ketu is without head, You must give up MATERIAL

> >>> desires to get Moksha.

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> > Also, would Ketu in the 12th house from lagna /

> >>> moon give moksha for sure?

> >>>

> >>> No. Ketu should be in forth or twelfth from

> >>> Karakamsa.

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> > Why would Jupiter not to be a mokshakaraka ?

> >>>

> >>> Jupiter gives knowledge which guide one to Moksha.

> >>> Jupiter gives the process (Saggitarius - temples,

> >>> Pisces - Caves)

> >>>

> >>> > For that matter why not other planets? Lord Krsna

> >>> says ' YadgattvA

> >>> > nani Vartante taddhAma paramam mama'.

> >>> > If moon represents Lord Krsna, why not moon?

> >>>

> >>> We have to be strict with Shastra's not with our

> >>> " why not " .

> >>> Sun represents Siva, so why not Sun ?

> >>> Venus represents Radha so why not Radha ?

> >>>

> >>> Parasara and Jaimini are strict. Ketu is for

> > moksha,

> >>> and every serious Jyotisha will follow ¶astra and

> >>> parampara to attain success.

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> >>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> >>> Achyuta Ashram.

> >>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

> > 'Hare

> >>> Rama Krishna'

> >>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> >>> Great who said that the human stomach should not

> >>> become a graveyard for animals.

> >>> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> >>> free chart reading today

> >>> >

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