Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi Visti, Om Sri Sai Ram. In my case - Sep 24 1975, 11:44:50, Delhi, India. Me is placed in 4th house from Karkamsa(Cancer) and it is also my Ishta devata. What would be the gati in this case? Will Chandra-upapada be the arudha of the 12th house from Moon in the D-1 chart? That would be Sagittarius. What does that tell about the direction of the mind? Saras , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Nandkumar, Namaskar > > The planets in the fourth from karakamsa give an idea as to which direction > the person is on, i.e. the Gati. This is seen from the fourth house, which > is the house of the mother... hence Adi Sankaras statement; " Gatistvam > Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani... " With Ketu, Moon or Venus in the fourth, the > Gati is towards mukti, but the Istha Devata must finally grant this to you. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of Nandkumar Chinai > 01 September 2005 19:32 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka--> Vistiji > > > > Dear Visitiji: > > > > I have Ketu in the 4th from karakamsa, in the Navamsa chart. Can I safely > say that I have a good chance to get out of the 'wheel of time' as you have > explained below ? > > > > Hare Krishna > > Nandkumar > > > > PS: .Jhd file attached for your kind perusal and insightful comments. > > Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Ketu is the only one who takes one out of the `wheel of time' also known as > the Kala Chakra, hence he gives moksha. > > > > As for Upapada and punya chakra, upasana, etc. Sri Krishna states that one > who is a jeevan-mukti in this birth will surely get moksha. So if one has > performed serious upasana and become a jeevanmukti through this, then one > can get moksha. > > > > An indication of the natural direction of the mind can be seen from the > Chandra-upapada of the Janma-Jataka (birth chart). A Prasna Jataka will > reveal what is the current direction so far, and the Punya Chakra (death > chart), will reveal where the mind was at the time of death, and hence which > loka one will go to. From the janma-jataka we suggest remedies to make the > direction better, and we can check this direction with time using the prasna > jataka. > > Jaimini also talks about the adhana chakra in this regard, which is the > chart for conception. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com/> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > 31 August 2005 23:42 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > 1.You have said " ...4 from Karakamsa for Way of soul, > > if benefics are there then You are on good way.. " . > > > > Ketu in 4'th from Karakamsa makes Moksha yoga - so > > here Ketu acts as a benefic or a malefic planet? > > Is not Ketu a natural malefic planet? > > Ketu is for Moksha, I think Jaimini lists Ketu between benefics. > Mars, Rahu & Saturn are problematic in these place. > Rahu as Atmakaraka can also be problematic depends on position. > > > > > > Also which is good for Moksha - Only Ketu in 4'th from > > Karakamsa or Ketu+Ju/Ve in 4'th from karakamsa? > > Ketu is sufficient for this Yoga, Venus & Jupiter gives good direction. > > > > > 2.You have said " where we go after death should be > > seen in Upapada from Moon " - Could you give any simple > > example? What is the combination for which after death > > one's Atma becomes a " Ghost " on the Earth - neither > > gets " Moksha " nor takes " rebirth " ? > > Rahu in Punya Lagna indicate birth as a ghost If my rememberance is good. > > See the planet which lording the Upapada from Moon, Mercury and Saturn gives > > hell, this is from Deva Keralam and this I think is not sufficient. Guruji > has some other secrets...Upapada is giving...Moon is Mind..Giving of Mind is > > focus..so where Your mind is in the moment of death..then You go there per > Bhagavad Gita. But there could be mercy of Krsna through Upasana done in > life. There must be something more..I think Prasna would be valuable > instrument! > > Regards Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Regards, > > Sourav > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav > > 1. where we go after death should be seen in Upapada > > from Moon. > > 2. rasi is about material manifestation, while > > Upasanamsa is about Your > > sadhana and spiritual aspiration & attitude, soul > > matters are seen in > > Dharmamsa(d-9) and Shastyamsa (d-30), while our past > > birth is also seen in > > Drekkana per Varahamihira & Parasara. > > I was taught to look at 4 from Karakamsa for Way of > > soul, if benefics are > > there then You are on good way. 12 from Karakamsa > > indicate if You will > > liberate & who will liberate You hence Ishta ! > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > - > > " Sourav Guchhait " <sourav6282 > > > > Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:50 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mokshakaraka > > > > > >> Dear Gurus, > >> > >> I want to ask that:- > >> > >> 1.Ketu is in 4'th or 12'th from Karakamsa " gives > >> Moksha " or " gives 'chance' to get Moksha " to the > >> Native? > >> > >> 2.Also do we have to look only in Navamsha(D-9)? Not > >> in Rashi Chart(D-1) or Dharmangsa(D-20) for " Moksha > >> yoga " ? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Sourav > >> > >> --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Rama, > >>> > >>> Comments below. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Rafal Gendarz > >>> > >>> > >>> > Does Mokshakaraka means 'the one who ensures no > >>> more birth / death'? > >>> > >>> Moksha - liberation. > >>> Karaka - one who signifies (in free translation) > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Then how does a chaya graha like Ketu be a > >>> mokshakaraka? > >>> > >>> Ketu is without head, You must give up MATERIAL > >>> desires to get Moksha. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Also, would Ketu in the 12th house from lagna / > >>> moon give moksha for sure? > >>> > >>> No. Ketu should be in forth or twelfth from > >>> Karakamsa. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Why would Jupiter not to be a mokshakaraka ? > >>> > >>> Jupiter gives knowledge which guide one to Moksha. > >>> Jupiter gives the process (Saggitarius - temples, > >>> Pisces - Caves) > >>> > >>> > For that matter why not other planets? Lord Krsna > >>> says ' YadgattvA > >>> > nani Vartante taddhAma paramam mama'. > >>> > If moon represents Lord Krsna, why not moon? > >>> > >>> We have to be strict with Shastra's not with our > >>> " why not " . > >>> Sun represents Siva, so why not Sun ? > >>> Venus represents Radha so why not Radha ? > >>> > >>> Parasara and Jaimini are strict. Ketu is for > > moksha, > >>> and every serious Jyotisha will follow ¶astra and > >>> parampara to attain success. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > >>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > >>> Achyuta Ashram. > >>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra > > 'Hare > >>> Rama Krishna' > >>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > >>> Great who said that the human stomach should not > >>> become a graveyard for animals. > >>> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > >>> free chart reading today > >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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