[Jagannath] LESSON: Niryana Shoola Dasa

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Narasimha,

The biggest problem with Niryana Shoola Dasa is its Param Ayus of 96

Years which does not fit into the natural order where the Param Ayus for

Human births is 120 years contributed by the 10 variables (nine planets and

Lagna) where each of them give 12 years. This is fundamental to Jyotish.

(10x12=120). Now, expunging the period contributed by the Mokshakaraka, the

body gets an Ayus of 108 years (120-12= 108 years). Thus, the Shoola Dasa is

the best Dasa system for Human longevity. The others will also give results,

but in about one-third the number of cases.

Secondly, the basic difference between the Niryana Shoola Dasa

(NSD)and the shoola Dasa is that the former is the movement of the 8th house

while the latter is the movement of Lagna. Both are regular, but Shoola Dasa

is always Zodiacal.

Thirdly, what is death astrologically? It is the coming together of

the factors covering the house of death and the house of Life. Thus, in the

movement of the 8th house as in Niryana Shoola Dasa, its reaching Lagna or

its significations brings death while for Shoola dasa, its reaching the 8th

house or its significations brings death. Thus, these are exactly the

opposite, yet leading to the same result. Now, death or disease occurs when

malefics afflict Lagna. Here shoola dasa gives the movement of the lagna and

the affliction of malefics to the Shoola Dasa Rasi will surely bring

death/suffering. The aspect of Jupiter brings the blessings of the Gayatri

mantra while the aspect of Venus brings the blessings of the sanjivani

Mantra. These things be borne in mind.

Can we treat the Niryana Shoola Dasa exactly like the Shoola dasa?

This is an open question and I am looking forward to the response of the

learned Jyotisha.

 

Best Wishes,

Sanjay Rath

 

Sri Jagannath Vedic Center

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> Namaste friends,

>

> We haven't had any serious discussions or lessons or exercises in a while.

> Here is a short lesson on " Niryna Shoola Dasa " .

>

> [Warning: What I teach below is based on my reading and

> experimentation and it is not based on my gurudev Sanjay Rath's

> teachings. I am explicitly stating this because some people may

> assume that this has Sanjay's approval. That is not the case

> here.]

>

> * * *

>

> PURPOSE

>

> Shoola is the weapon of Lord Shiva, the Destroyer in the Hindu

> Trinity of Gods. Shoola dasa taught here earlier shows sufferings of a

> native. It shows illnesses, suffering and death.

>

> There is a variation of Shoola dasa called " Niryana Shoola dasa "

> which is exclusively used in timing death. In fact, the word

> " niryana " means " death " .

>

> COMPUTATION OF DASAS

>

> Take the 8th house from lagna and 7th. Take the stronger sign

> (i.e. take the stronger of 8th and 2nd signs from lagna). Dasas

> start from that sign.

>

> If it is an odd sign, dasa progress forward (Ar, Ta, Ge etc). If

> it is an even sign, dasa progress backward (Pi, Aq, Cp etc).

>

> Dasa years are as in Sthira dasa. Dasas of movable (chara), fixed (sthira)

> and dual (dwiswabhava) signs are for 7, 8 and 9 years respectively.

> Movable signs are Ar, Cn, Li and Cp. Fixed signs

> are Ta, Le, Sc and Aq. Dual signs are Ge, Vi, Sg and Pi.

>

> Based on my experience, I hold that the Saturn and Ketu

> exceptions that I taught in the case of Narayana dasa and Sudasa

> are applicable here also.

>

> [Note: My Gurudev Sanjay Rath taught on p 210 of his book

> " Jaimini Maharishi's Upadesa Sutras " that we should take the

> stronger of lagna and 7th and then start dasas from the 8th from

> the stronger sign. Please note that the position I took above is

> different! If lagna is in Aries, Aries is stronger than Libra and Taurus

> is stronger than Scorpio, then Sanjay's definition gives Scorpio as the

> dasa start sign and my definition gives Taurus.

>

> Parasara wrote:

>

> niryaanasya vichaaraartham kaischichchhoola dasaa smritaa |

> lagna saptamato mrityu bhayoryo balavaan bhavet || 46-181

>

> Sanjay also quoted the same verse of Parasara and claimed that it agreed

> with his interpretation of Jaimini (given above). However, this claim is

> absolutely untenable. The above verse of Parasara makes it absolutely

> clear that the " stronger sign of the eighth

> signs from lagna and 7th " should be taken. There is absolutely no

> ambiguity here and what I taught above is the only possible interpretation

> of that verse. The corresponding aphorism of

> Jaimini has some ambiguity, but Parasara's verse is in clear and

> unambiguous Sanskrit.]

>

> TIMING OF DEATH:

>

> Parasara only said that a strong killer sign can kill the native

> in its dasa. Typically, look for the following:

>

> (1) The 3rd, 8th and 12th from arudha lagna

> (2) The 2nd, 7th and 12th from lagna (or the signs containing

> their lords), if they are strong

> (3) The 3rd and 8th from lagna if they are badly afflicted

> (4) A trine from Maheswara

>

> You can find a dasa in the expected longevity range satisfying

> the above.

>

> * * *

>

> EXAMPLE 1 (Dr. B.V. Raman):

>

> Date of Birth: August 8, 1912

> Time of Birth: 7:38:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 77 E 35

> Latitude of Birth: 12 N 59

>

> He passed away on Dec 20, 1998.

>

> Lagna is in Aq. Pi is 2nd and Vi is 8th. Vi and Pi have one

> planet each. Both are even signs and Vi is stronger because its

> lord Mercury is in an odd sign (Jupiter is in an even sign).

> Because Vi is even, dasas should go backward. But Ketu's presence in Vi

> reverses dasa order and it becomes forward. We can get dasas as:

>

> Vi: 9 yrs: 1912-1921

> Li: 7 yrs: 1921-1928

> Sc: 8 yrs: 1928-1936

> Sg: 9 yrs: 1936-1945

> Cp: 7 yrs: 1945-1952

> Aq: 8 yrs: 1952-1960

> Pi: 9 yrs: 1960-1969

> Ar: 7 yrs: 1969-1976

> Ta: 8 yrs: 1976-1984

> Ge: 9 yrs: 1984-1993

> Cn: 7 yrs: 1993-2000 <<<<<<<<

> Le: 8 yrs: 2000-2008

>

> It may be noted that Cn is the 3rd from arudha lagna and it has

> Sun, the lord of a strong 7th house (killer house) from lagna. It is also

> a trine from Jupiter, who is Maheswara.

>

> It may be recalled that we covered this chart in a Brahma dasa

> exercise and Cn dasa brought death as per Brahma dasa also!

>

> Because Sun occupies Cn, death in Cn dasa can occur naturally and

> effortlessly.

>

> * * *

>

> EXAMPLE 2 (Sri Harish Johari):

>

> Date of Birth: May 12, 1934

> Time of Birth: 12:55:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 79 E 25

> Latitude of Birth: 28 N 21

>

> He passed away on August 20, 1999.

>

> Lagna is in Leo. Vi is 2nd and Pi is 8th. Both have one planet

> each. But Pi has an exalted planet (Venus) and it is stronger. So dasas

> start from Pi. Because Pi is even, they go backward. We can get dasas as:

>

> Pi: 9 yrs: 1934-1943

> Aq: 8 yrs: 1943-1951

> Cp: 7 yrs: 1951-1958

> Sg: 9 yrs: 1958-1967

> Sc: 8 yrs: 1967-1975

> Li: 7 yrs: 1975-1982

> Vi: 9 yrs: 1982-1991

> Le: 8 yrs: 1991-1999

> Cn: 7 yrs: 1999-2006 <<<<<<<<

> Ge: 9 yrs: 2006-2015

> Ta: 8 yrs: 2015-2023

> Ar: 7 yrs: 2023-2030

>

> Here Cn is the 8th house from arudha lagna. It is aspected by the 3rd from

> arudha lagna. It is the 12th house from lagna. It contains mrityu saham.

> For all these reasons, Cancer dasa is a

> strong candidate for bringing death. Dasas of 3rd and 12th from

> arudha lagna come too early in life and the 8th from arudha lagna is also

> a good candidate.

>

> Cn is the 12th house of moksha with Ketu in it and death in its

> dasa can happen in a pilgrimage or at a spiritual place. I think

> this is true based on what we were told by a disciple of Sri

> Johari who passed the news of his demise to us. I am not sure

> though.

>

> * * *

>

> ANTARDASAS:

>

> I will cover the computation of antardasas later.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

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