Translation of slokas from Mani Mala on Planetary G...

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Dear Swee,

 

> Thank you for your inputs. Try and give a used item to my Gurudeva and see

what he has to say K

 

Please ask him for a shastric basis for refusing " old daanam " . May I

ask who your Gurudeva is?

 

> You may have it all polished up, but your auric energies remain and this is

what they will pick up; ever been to a psychometrist?

 

Precisely. It is _your dosha_ that you are trying to transfer. The

substance is chosen such that it is a natural residence of the deva in

question. Such a gem, which you have happened to wear on your person,

thus contains the very dosha that you want to 'give away'. IMO, it

becomes an appropriate choice for the pratima danam.

 

> Japas are always offered first, then a yagna or on a smaller scale, an agni

hotra and then you offer food and then give the dakshina.

 

Sure, I never meant to say that the danam is given first. I was saying

that the importance is the pratima, since it becomes the carrier of

the dosha. i.e. it is not the giving of the dakshina that is

important. It is the giving of the pratima that is central to the

transfer of the dosha. This works in the opposite way too. This is why

a pratima (such as a ring) is sometimes placed in a kalasha which is

energized by protective mantras, and then worn by the yajamana for

protection. In both cases, certain energies are transferred by mantras

to the wearer of the pratima. In the later case, dakshina is given to

the purohit, but the energized pratima stays with the yajamana.

 

> It is always up to the purohit or the astrologer or the reiki master, pranic

healer etc if they elect to take on your karma by accepting to take you on in

the first place.

 

Yes, this is indeed true in practice. However, as per what I have been

taught of brahmana dharma, shastra insists otherwise.

 

ajit

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Ajit-ji / Swee-ji,

namaskar. Can I ask a layman's question ? What is precisely transference of dosha? If one person transfer's dosha to another person via gift/daanam, who suffer's the dosha and why ?

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================sohamsa , "Ajit Krishnan" <ajit.krishnan wrote:>> Dear Swee,> > > Thank you for your inputs. Try and give a used item to my Gurudeva and see what he has to say K> > Please ask him for a shastric basis for refusing "old daanam". May I> ask who your Gurudeva is?> > > You may have it all polished up, but your auric energies remain and this is what they will pick up; ever been to a psychometrist?> > Precisely. It is _your dosha_ that you are trying to transfer. The> substance is chosen such that it is a natural residence of the deva in> question. Such a gem, which you have happened to wear on your person,> thus contains the very dosha that you want to 'give away'. IMO, it> becomes an appropriate choice for the pratima danam.> > > Japas are always offered first, then a yagna or on a smaller scale, an agni hotra and then you offer food and then give the dakshina.> > Sure, I never meant to say that the danam is given first. I was saying> that the importance is the pratima, since it becomes the carrier of> the dosha. i.e. it is not the giving of the dakshina that is> important. It is the giving of the pratima that is central to the> transfer of the dosha. This works in the opposite way too. This is why> a pratima (such as a ring) is sometimes placed in a kalasha which is> energized by protective mantras, and then worn by the yajamana for> protection. In both cases, certain energies are transferred by mantras> to the wearer of the pratima. In the later case, dakshina is given to> the purohit, but the energized pratima stays with the yajamana.> > > It is always up to the purohit or the astrologer or the reiki master, pranic healer etc if they elect to take on your karma by accepting to take you on in the first place.> > Yes, this is indeed true in practice. However, as per what I have been> taught of brahmana dharma, shastra insists otherwise.> > ajit>

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear

Sourav,

Namaste

 

I am glad

you asked. Ajit’s confusion with Dana of Rahu during Grahana is old/worn

clothes. The reason is absolutely different in that case.

Dana of

all possessions, (when done) can only be of used things BUT never for

propitiation of Grahas. Things that are to be thrown away cannot be Dana.

To consider dana in gifting things, they should also be of a high value to

yourself. So who says things ever come without any sacrifice? Even in mantras so

to speak.

 

I find the logic that the doshas should be carried by Purohit, very strange.

Would that be a Dana then? For you see, Dana has to be without expectation of

anything in return and with good heart. Then only will the grahas causing

problems be pacified.

 

I hope this is not another convoluted theory are advanced under the garb of

what is Dharma K hmmm.

 

Isn’t

it stranger that one would think of giving a gemstone away especially when it

is carrying your dosha for you and cleansing you in an effective way?

 

Past my

beauty sleep J.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav

Tuesday, February 21, 2006

10:53 PM

sohamsa

[vedic astrology]

Re: Translation of slokas from Mani Mala on Planetary G...

 

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

Dear Ajit-ji / Swee-ji,

namaskar. Can I ask a layman's question ? What is precisely transference of

dosha? If one person transfer's dosha to another person via gift/daanam, who

suffer's the dosha and why ?

Best

wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan "

<ajit.krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Swee,

>

> > Thank you for your inputs. Try and give a used item to my Gurudeva

and see what he has to say K

>

> Please ask him for a shastric basis for refusing " old daanam " .

May I

> ask who your Gurudeva is?

>

> > You may have it all polished up, but your auric energies remain and

this is what they will pick up; ever been to a psychometrist?

>

> Precisely. It is _your dosha_ that you are trying to transfer. The

> substance is chosen such that it is a natural residence of the deva in

> question. Such a gem, which you have happened to wear on your person,

> thus contains the very dosha that you want to 'give away'. IMO, it

> becomes an appropriate choice for the pratima danam.

>

> > Japas are always offe red first, then a yagna or on a smaller scale,

an agni hotra and then you offer food and then give the dakshina.

>

> Sure, I never meant to say that the danam is given first. I was saying

> that the importance is the pratima, since it becomes the carrier of

> the dosha. i.e. it is not the giving of the dakshina that is

> important. It is the giving of the pratima that is central to the

> transfer of the dosha. This works in the opposite way too. This is why

> a pratima (such as a ring) is sometimes placed in a kalasha which is

> energized by protective mantras, and then worn by the yajamana for

> protection. In both cases, certain energies are transferred by mantras

> to the wearer of the pratima. In the later case, dakshina is given to

> the purohit, but the energized pratima stays with the yajamana.

>

> > It is always up to the purohit or the astrologer or the reiki master,

pranic healer etc if they elect to take on your karma by accepting to take you

on in the first place.

>

> Yes, this is indeed true in practice. However, as per what I have been

> taught of brahmana dharma, shastra insists otherwise.

>

> ajit

>

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Dear Swee,

 

You have ascribed some confusion to me, and that is fine. I am mostly

confused about most topics. Perhaps you would be kind enough to

clarify after your beauty sleep :-)

 

ajit

 

On 2/21/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote:

>

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

>

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> Namaste

>

>

>

> I am glad you asked. Ajit's confusion with Dana of Rahu during Grahana is

old/worn clothes. The reason is absolutely different in that case.

>

> Dana of all possessions, (when done) can only be of used things BUT never for

propitiation of Grahas. Things that are to be thrown away cannot be Dana. To

consider dana in gifting things, they should also be of a high value to

yourself. So who says things ever come without any sacrifice? Even in mantras so

to speak.

>

> I find the logic that the doshas should be carried by Purohit, very strange.

Would that be a Dana then? For you see, Dana has to be without expectation of

anything in return and with good heart. Then only will the grahas causing

problems be pacified.

>

> I hope this is not another convoluted theory are advanced under the garb of

what is Dharma K hmmm.

>

>

>

> Isn't it stranger that one would think of giving a gemstone away especially

when it is carrying your dosha for you and cleansing you in an effective way?

>

>

>

> Past my beauty sleep J.

>

>

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

>

>

>

> ________________________________

 

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

Sourav

> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:53 PM

> sohamsa

> [vedic astrology] Re: Translation of slokas from Mani Mala

on Planetary G...

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Ajit-ji / Swee-ji,

>

> namaskar. Can I ask a layman's

question ? What is precisely transference of dosha? If one person transfer's

dosha to another person via gift/daanam, who suffer's the dosha and why ?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

> sohamsa , " Ajit Krishnan " <ajit.krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swee,

> >

> > > Thank you for your inputs. Try and give a used item to my Gurudeva and see

what he has to say K

> >

> > Please ask him for a shastric basis for refusing " old daanam " . May I

> > ask who your Gurudeva is?

> >

> > > You may have it all polished up, but your auric energies remain and this

is what they will pick up; ever been to a psychometrist?

> >

> > Precisely. It is _your dosha_ that you are trying to transfer. The

> > substance is chosen such that it is a natural residence of the deva in

> > question. Such a gem, which you have happened to wear on your person,

> > thus contains the very dosha that you want to 'give away'. IMO, it

> > becomes an appropriate choice for the pratima danam.

> >

> > > Japas are always offe red first, then a yagna or on a smaller scale, an

agni hotra and then you offer food and then give the dakshina.

> >

> > Sure, I never meant to say that the danam is given first. I was saying

> > that the importance is the pratima, since it becomes the carrier of

> > the dosha. i.e. it is not the giving of the dakshina that is

> > important. It is the giving of the pratima that is central to the

> > transfer of the dosha. This works in the opposite way too. This is why

> > a pratima (such as a ring) is sometimes placed in a kalasha which is

> > energized by protective mantras, and then worn by the yajamana for

> > protection. In both cases, certain energies are transferred by mantras

> > to the wearer of the pratima. In the later case, dakshina is given to

> > the purohit, but the energized pratima stays with the yajamana.

> >

> > > It is always up to the purohit or the astrologer or the reiki master,

pranic healer etc if they elect to take on your karma by accepting to take you

on in the first place.

> >

> > Yes, this is indeed true in practice. However, as per what I have been

> > taught of brahmana dharma, shastra insists otherwise.

> >

> > ajit

> >

>

>

>

>

> *tat savitur varenyam*

>

>

>

>

>