Upapada

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Jaan,

When the intention to marry is there with a person it becomes an Upapada.At times the period of two years is given for a relationship to be termed as Upapada.Sexual relations is not compulsory for this.

Best Wishes,

Kanupriya.

Umesh Kulasingham <jaan wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on when we should examine the Upapada to see a particular relationship?For example if someone has a long standing relationship but then goes on to marry another person, which Upapada should be examined?Someone can have many many relationships before a strong marriage to one person. How do we analyse this with regard to Upapada?What happens when the long standing relationship is not physical, but instead an emotional attachment only?lovejaan|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

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Dear Jaan,

 

Every long standing relationships, whether legally married or not, should be

considered as UL. They should have the intention of commitment and be

long...at least a year, including live-in relationships as well. Flings,

brief affairs etc. are regarded as darapada or A7. In the example you have

given, consider the marriage as the 2nd UL. The 2nd UL is calculated as both

8th from the original UL. And the subsequent ULs therefrom.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

Umesh Kulasingham [jaan]

Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:57 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Upapada

 

 

Does anyone have any tips on when we should examine the Upapada to

see a particular relationship?

 

For example if someone has a long standing relationship but then goes

on to marry another person, which Upapada should be examined?

 

Someone can have many many relationships before a strong marriage to

one person. How do we analyse this with regard to Upapada?

 

What happens when the long standing relationship is not physical, but

instead an emotional attachment only?

 

love

jaan

 

 

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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Dear Dhira Krishna,

 

I just passed on what I learnt from Sanjayji. He says in modern

circumstances, we have a lot of relationships in the West, where people live

together in a committed relationship, or with the intention of commitment,

and that this has to be counted as a UL and not as an A7. Of course the

added criteria is that the relationship should have existed for at least 1

year.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

Dhira Krsna BCS [Dhira.Krsna.BCS]

Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:51 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Upapada

 

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

I don't think your statement about relationship without marriage can be

seen from UL. My wife had a relationship of about one year before our

marriage, and the description of myself cannot be seen from 8th from UL,

but is definitely the UL itself. I guess it makes a difference when there

is a marriage tie, that means one is bound by official law (12th house),

and thus one cannot go out of it that easily, unlike a free relationship

which can be given up without any necessary procedure or so.

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotisha

http://www.radhadesh.com

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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ps...can you please send me yours and your wife's chart...thanks...

 

 

Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani]

Monday, November 03, 2003 7:42 PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Upapada

 

 

Dear Dhira Krishna,

 

I just passed on what I learnt from Sanjayji. He says in modern

circumstances, we have a lot of relationships in the West, where people live

together in a committed relationship, or with the intention of commitment,

and that this has to be counted as a UL and not as an A7. Of course the

added criteria is that the relationship should have existed for at least 1

year.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

Dhira Krsna BCS [Dhira.Krsna.BCS]

Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:51 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Upapada

 

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

I don't think your statement about relationship without marriage can be

seen from UL. My wife had a relationship of about one year before our

marriage, and the description of myself cannot be seen from 8th from UL,

but is definitely the UL itself. I guess it makes a difference when there

is a marriage tie, that means one is bound by official law (12th house),

and thus one cannot go out of it that easily, unlike a free relationship

which can be given up without any necessary procedure or so.

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotisha

http://www.radhadesh.com

 

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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Dear Dhira,

 

A quick question: is it possible that you are your wife's third UL? Could

you please enquire from her?

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

Dhira Krsna BCS [Dhira.Krsna.BCS]

Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:53 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Upapada

 

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

Here you are. I've attached them, after doing some final rectification

with Pranapada, Navamsa-dwadasamsa, and the system of Kali dasa. So the

timings should be correct now.

 

>ps...can you please send me yours and your wife's chart...thanks...

 

Please let me know your conclusions, am I the first or second UL?

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotisha

http://www.radhadesh.com

 

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

 

 

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Dear friends,

 

Upapada,is normally taken from the 12th to

ascendant,find out where its lord is positioned,and equal no of

signs,is the UL.

 

In Mr CS patel's book,the arudha system of prediction,he mentions

for odd sign of Lagna,instead of 12 th it should be 2nd house.wheras

for odd sign of Lagna it should be 12th as per standard

procedure.pls see pg 56.

 

What is the procedure to be followed. Upa Pada is very important

for matching apart from other issue.

 

Will appreciate enlightenment.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Satish,

namaskar. This is a well known controversy. However, UL (which is Arudha of the Upapada) is, in our tradition, taken for 12H always, irrespective of whether the lagna rasi is odd or even. I will give two arguments.

If for even rasi, we select UL for 2nd house, then shouldn't we do that for all other houses , for e.g. say for Mantra pada, A5, shall we consider 9H for odd lagna rasi ? but we do not. This is where we get into difficulty. UL is shows our debts or our compromises (rina) and by the act of giving/compromising, we strengthen UL. Because marriage is probably the biggest area of giving or compromising, it is seen from UL. This rina can only be seen from the 12H and UL is the manifestation of the area where we are to compromise/give generously in life. UL should also be checked for donations and all other giving.

Secondly, Lagna always moves zodiacally. Then according to Parasara, Upapada is the arudha of the house behind the lagna and that has to be 12H.

Hope this helps a little.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "R Satish" <rsatish1942 wrote:>> > > Dear friends,> > Upapada,is normally taken from the 12th to > ascendant,find out where its lord is positioned,and equal no of > signs,is the UL.> > In Mr CS patel's book,the arudha system of prediction,he mentions > for odd sign of Lagna,instead of 12 th it should be 2nd house.wheras > for odd sign of Lagna it should be 12th as per standard > procedure.pls see pg 56.> > What is the procedure to be followed. Upa Pada is very important > for matching apart from other issue.> > Will appreciate enlightenment.> > > Regards,> > Satish>

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+ sri gurave namah +

Dear Sourav

Very well said and if I may word this differently, ...the dharma of the 12th house is to remove all debts indicated by the 8th house.

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Sourav [souravc108] Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:59 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Upapada

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Satish,

namaskar. This is a well known controversy. However, UL (which is Arudha of the Upapada) is, in our tradition, taken for 12H always, irrespective of whether the lagna rasi is odd or even. I will give two arguments.

If for even rasi, we select UL for 2nd house, then shouldn't we do that for all other houses , for e.g. say for Mantra pada, A5, shall we consider 9H for odd lagna rasi ? but we do not. This is where we get into difficulty. UL is shows our debts or our compromises (rina) and by the act of giving/compromising, we strengthen UL. Because marriage is probably the biggest area of giving or compromising, it is seen from UL. This rina can only be seen from the 12H and UL is the manifestation of the area where we are to compromise/give generously in life. UL should also be checked for donations and all other giving.

Secondly, Lagna always moves zodiacally. Then according to Parasara, Upapada is the arudha of the house behind the lagna and that has to be 12H.

Hope this helps a little.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "R Satish" <rsatish1942 wrote:>> > > Dear friends,> > Upapada,is normally taken from the 12th to > ascendant,find out where its lord is positioned,and equal no of > signs,is the UL.> > In Mr CS patel's book,the arudha system of prediction,he mentions > for odd sign of Lagna,instead of 12 th it should be 2nd house.wheras > for odd sign of Lagna it should be 12th as per standard > procedure.pls see pg 56.> > What is the procedure to be followed. Upa Pada is very important > for matching apart from other issue.> > Will appreciate enlightenment.> > > Regards,> > Satish>