Marriage Denial?

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Another point to be noted here is that 7L Sun is under adverse influence of

Ketu. Influence of Ketu is always detrimental to marriage. And, though 2L (of

family) Jupiter is exalted, he is retrograde. And, 2H has a debilitated planet.

 

In navamsha, 7L Mars is afflicted as it disposits debilitated Rahu.

 

Looking at these factors and also the ones already pointed out, it appears that

it could be a case of denial of marriage.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

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neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

 

Monday, 10 August, 2009 2:45:08 PM

Re: Marriage - Manoj ji

 

Just came across an interesting case on another list, seems relevant to this

thread, hence I share here.

 

13 March,1979, 5:02 am, Amethi. (trying to find out whether it is a male or

a female)

 

Saturn is the LL/12L, retrogrades in 7H in Leo exchanging houses with Sun,

conjunct Moon and Rahu. Mars, Sun and ketu in lagna.

Saturn aspects taurus and libra and is closely conjunct 6L moon, disposits

venus and touches cancer in retro motion (take it or leave it!)

 

Does it look like a case of no-marriage? Or the 1-7 parivartan can help?

Of course native must be TRYING!

 

Thanks and Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

 

2009/8/10 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

 

>

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> Thanks for clarifying. The point is, apart from Saturn influencing Venus,

> there are other factors in Gopi ji's chart that affect his marriage

> prospects. Please take a look at Navamsha chart. Such factors are absent in

> the second chart though Saturn's influence on Venus in both charts are

> similar if not to the same degree. And, another point worth taking note of

> as Neelam ji has pointed out that in the second chart Saturn has an

> obligation to give marriage being 7L and having MT in 7H.

>

> Regarding your chart, I did not get the co-ordinates for Tirrupathur. Is

> there some spelling error?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40>

> >

> <%40>

> Sunday, 9 August, 2009 9:08:11 PM

> Re: Marriage - Neelam ji

>

> Dear Krishna Ji,

>

> I did not over look that but mistyped when I said Saturn aspects Venus and

> Moon (although it is still true, not as significant) . However Saturn's

> aspect on Venus from Venus' house is a much more powerful influence. In Shri

> Gopi Ji' s chart it not only aspects Venus' dispositor and Venus but does so

> from Venus' house. In the second chart, that is not the case. I think it is

> still a more powerful Grip, in Shri Gopi Ji's chart.

>

> However, in the second chart, the same kind of " Grip " does hold true for

> Mars who is the 4L and 9L. So Sa aspecting 4L from the 4H and also Moon, may

> have caused some trouble for 4H matters??? especially since Ma is also 9L ?

>

> By the way your analysis of Diabetes is simply brilliant. I have Type 2

> diabetes as well and it perfectly falls in to the category. Here is the

> data:

>

> June 8, 1970, 5:02 PM, Tirrupathur, Tamil Nadu.

> Diagnosed in 2000.

>

> BTW here again Sa aspects LL Ma from 6H, from Mars's house, once again the

> " Grip " is very powerful. I have learnt the power of Sa aspecting a planet

> while sitting in that planets house through personal experience. Several

> members of my close family have this and results are quite devastating. So

> even though I dont have that much experience (astro wise), please keep that

> in the back of your mind in your research.

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ >

>

> Saturday, August 8, 2009 12:02:31 AM

> Re: Marriage - Neelam ji

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> Even in the second chart Saturn is aspecting Sun who is the dispositor of

> Venus.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

>

> Saturday, 8 August, 2009 12:09:23 AM

> Re: Marriage - Neelam ji

>

> Dear Krishna Ji, Neelam Ji,

>

> Wonderful dialogue to learn from. It is also interesting that in Gopi Ji's

> chart Sa is influencing Ve and Moon (Ve's dispositor) while sitting in a

> Venusian sign, hence his " grip " on Venus is much stronger. In the 2nd chart,

> the same " strong grip " is missing, despite the aspect on Ve and Mo.

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>

>

> Friday, August 7, 2009 7:54:25 AM

> Re: Marriage - Neelam ji

>

> Dear Krishna ji,

>

> There are basic differences in the structure of chart and working of

> planets. Its like comparing an orange with an apple :-)

>

> Marriage is a norm, and denial is abnormal. The horoscope must show

> multiple

> negations to deny marriage. The one major dictum I quoted, since it was

> significant, but nothing is applicable in isolation, won’t you agree?

> Please

> compare the purpose of Saturn and Jupiter in the two charts and the

> difference would be clear. In Gopi ji’s chart, there are several

> no-marriage

> pointers, including the divisional strength and dashas.

>

> Nonetheless, we cannot claim 100 per cent success with principles. There is

> much beyond our normal vision. As I said in my earlier mail, it is easier

> when we look back!

>

> IMHO, some important differences between the two charts are:

>

> Saturn himself is lord of 7H with its MT sign in 7th, so it comes with a

> mandate to give marriage to the native, though as a slow planet, it can be

> delayed (not sure in this case as too many influences can give early

> marriage). In D-9, Saturn gains strength, in own house and aspecting 7H.

> Saturn aspects moon and venus, but cancer and libra are untouched, the

> signs

> for emotions and marriage of KPK. I expect the native to be spiritually

> inclined because of close aspect on moon.

>

> 7H has the benefic aspect of Jup, and Jup in libra is blessing the houses

> of

> desire, 3/7/11, as well as bhagyasthan. Giving him fulfilment of desires,

> may be poetic expressions, hobbies like studies of scriptures, travelling,

> etc.

>

> Native gets Jupiter’s mahadasha at the age of about 23 and Jupiter being a

> natural as well as a functional benefic for leo is bound to give good

> results. It also gains panchadha maitri with venus, LL sun and Saturn. In

> fact, Jupiter dasha would give him worldly success including prestigious

> job

> as it enters the scene (pad prapti and gains).

>

> Jupiter as 5L is well placed and 5H is strong, so there is no denial of

> children.

>

> I guess this native must’ve got married but saturn’s dasha from 1997,

would

> also give him a slow and steady transformation towards spirituality, might

> lead to distancing from spouse for this reason.

>

> Hope I am able to explain myself.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>