Conflicting analysis of horoscopes - your respected opinions requested

[Guest guest]

Hello respected Jyotishas, Jyotishas in Learning, and those interested in

astrology.

 

I am new to this group. Indeed, I sought it out because I am seeking additional

opinions for the horoscope matching of my niece.This is the first time we've had

cause to consult with a Jyotish.

 

My niece (her name is Love) is born and raised in the US. She is 26. She has

been dating a boy (Matthew) for a few months whom her parents like very much.

She came to her parents to ask if they would match the horoscopes, and they

asked me to help. We are Sindhi Indians; Matthew is Caucasian.

 

Friends, I have asked two different Jyotishas who are highly regarded and whom I

trust very much in their education and experience. I am feeling very conflicted

in what advice I should give to Love's parents.

 

I hope that you all will be willing to help me out.

 

The Guna (Ashtkoot) is coming to 33.5 (out of 36). That is excellent, I know!

The points that are not 100% are: Vashya (1 of 2) and Tara/Dina (1.5 of 3). The

rest are 100%.

 

The boy's nakshatra is Revati; Love's is Bharani.

 

The issue is that Matthew has Rahu in his 5th house and Ketu in his 11th house

in his Lagna chart. In his Navamsa chart, he has Ravi and Ketu in his 8th house.

He also has Sukra and Moon in his 12th house. He has nothing in his 7th house.

 

Love has Rahu in her 3rd house and Ketu in her 9th house. In her 7th house, she

has Pluto and Sani. Sukra is in her 2nd house.

 

I am happy to provide anymore details, including full planets in all houses.

They are looking for advice on whether to get engaged or not.

 

One Jyotish has said that the pair is FANTASTIC and that we should not let this

kind of pairing slip from our hands; the other Jyotish has said the boy will

cheat on her and the relationship will end in about 10 years in a divorce. He

says that Love should run as fast as she can because there is no indication of a

divorce in her own horoscope. He says there is every indication she should have

a wonderful marriage.

 

If anyone can help shed some light; please do...We would be truly grateful.

 

girls dob 14th april 1983 10:22 PM ridgewood nj usa

boys dob 19th february 1980 2:44 AM new brunswick nj usa

 

Sincerely

 

Dhiraj Sharma Relwani

[Guest guest]

Dear Relwani-Saanyi,

 

Before you send us jyotishis away to tweak at our abacuses and other gadgets,

may I ask a simple and straightforward question?

 

If we come back with the following options, what is the *family* going to do or

decide? And the mundaa--mundee also!

 

a) Let us say some of us go beyond the Kutaas and so on, as must ALWAYS be the

responsible case and find that the match is not Kosher, will Love and Matthew

separate gracefully and go their own ways, for the rest of their lives and never

ever 'sigh' wistfully for one another, whether they remain celibate for the rest

of their lifetimes or worse -- get married to someone else but continue to

remember what it could have been if *loving* uncles and the rest of the family

did not step in and rain on their marriage?

 

b) Or let us take the cheerier scenario: Let us say the match was found good but

there was a bit of this or bit of that that can be fixed by a gemstone or pooja

or feeding thirty cattle-heads (if you can find those!) or so on and the two

modern kids go along with all that and ten years from now after they get married

with the CLAN's blessing -- they find that they have a child but really really

they should not have gotten married!

 

Which would you prefer? Scenario A or B? Which one would THEY prefer?

 

If Matt was not caucasian but a South Indian, would that have made a difference

to your question? What if he was 'Greek?'

 

I know I am throwing too many googlies at the distraught uncle who wants to do

the best for his beloved neice and her beau, but have you ever really sat down

with Love (I mean the emotion and not just your bhatijee!) and really asked her

what she wanted and why?

 

If the above 'remedial' procedure ever happens in your life, please practice the

ancient art of ACTIVE LISTENING! Which means you will have to be completely

QUIET, inside and outside when you sit down with your beloved Love!

 

I know I am being facetious and kind of harsh, but at least someone must think

of Love and Matthew and how or why they got connected?

 

YOU should be doing that, actually :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " dsharmarelwanijyotisha "

<dsharmarelwanijyotisha wrote:

>

> Hello respected Jyotishas, Jyotishas in Learning, and those interested in

astrology.

>

> I am new to this group. Indeed, I sought it out because I am seeking

additional opinions for the horoscope matching of my niece.This is the first

time we've had cause to consult with a Jyotish.

>

> My niece (her name is Love) is born and raised in the US. She is 26. She has

been dating a boy (Matthew) for a few months whom her parents like very much.

She came to her parents to ask if they would match the horoscopes, and they

asked me to help. We are Sindhi Indians; Matthew is Caucasian.

>

> Friends, I have asked two different Jyotishas who are highly regarded and whom

I trust very much in their education and experience. I am feeling very

conflicted in what advice I should give to Love's parents.

>

> I hope that you all will be willing to help me out.

>

> The Guna (Ashtkoot) is coming to 33.5 (out of 36). That is excellent, I know!

The points that are not 100% are: Vashya (1 of 2) and Tara/Dina (1.5 of 3). The

rest are 100%.

>

> The boy's nakshatra is Revati; Love's is Bharani.

>

> The issue is that Matthew has Rahu in his 5th house and Ketu in his 11th house

in his Lagna chart. In his Navamsa chart, he has Ravi and Ketu in his 8th house.

He also has Sukra and Moon in his 12th house. He has nothing in his 7th house.

>

> Love has Rahu in her 3rd house and Ketu in her 9th house. In her 7th house,

she has Pluto and Sani. Sukra is in her 2nd house.

>

> I am happy to provide anymore details, including full planets in all houses.

They are looking for advice on whether to get engaged or not.

>

> One Jyotish has said that the pair is FANTASTIC and that we should not let

this kind of pairing slip from our hands; the other Jyotish has said the boy

will cheat on her and the relationship will end in about 10 years in a divorce.

He says that Love should run as fast as she can because there is no indication

of a divorce in her own horoscope. He says there is every indication she should

have a wonderful marriage.

>

> If anyone can help shed some light; please do...We would be truly grateful.

>

> girls dob 14th april 1983 10:22 PM ridgewood nj usa

> boys dob 19th february 1980 2:44 AM new brunswick nj usa

>

> Sincerely

>

> Dhiraj Sharma Relwani

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Rohiniranjan (and all others),

 

Facetiousness aside, I appreciate your point. I hope that I can give you more

clarity:

 

About two months into dating each other, Love went to her parents and asked if

they would match the horoscopes. Her parents told her quite simply: Don't do the

horoscopes if you already love this boy. They suggested: Put the charts inside

of their mandiir in the house in front of Shiv Baghuan and Ambai Mata, and let

the gods take care of it. My niece was very adamant and still is.

 

Part of her opinion is that she strong believe in this. Another part is that she

has some family members a few years older who did the horoscopes, saw the match

was poor (19 guna, etc), got married and are now stuck in poor situations. Yet

another part is that based on her interactions with Matthew, she thought the

match would be excellent and everyone could proceed with a happy heart. And the

final part is that: She says that she is not so far into this that she could not

walk away from it. Her main concern is that she wants to be close to her parents

and care for them in their old age, which her older sibling is not going to do.

She says she wants a harmonious and happy home no matter what. She also has said

that she is invested enough to not want to walk away unless for a very good

reason.

 

Esteemed Rohiniranjan, I want nothing more then for my niece to be happy.

Perhaps that makes me the part of the over-involved and over-concerned uncle. It

happens that Love is very insistent on having a concrete answer; now especially,

she says that if the majority of the interpretation indicates adultery or

infidelity, she can't in good conscience put herself or her future children in

that position.

 

Of course, I am listening to her with ears and heart. It's a good point you

make, and one that parents should of course practice.

 

If I posessed the knowledge myself, I wouldn't be " bugging " you good people; but

yes this is serious, and of course we just want the best.

 

I do thank you for writing out such a thoughtful note. To answer your precise

question, in the first situation, Love says that they would separate because she

wouldn't want to live her life in fear of being cheated on. Matthew, I believe,

is so affected by his past (father cheating on mother) that he might accept it

at face value and agree to separate. Either way, he is agreeing with her,

however difficult it is, since he knows it's important to her. If it were the

second option, I'm not sure I can answer that. I certainly don't know. But I do

know they're just looking for as much education here as possible.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Conflicting analysis of horoscopes - your respected

opinions requested

 

Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:24 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Relwani-Saanyi,

 

 

 

Before you send us jyotishis away to tweak at our abacuses and other gadgets,

may I ask a simple and straightforward question?

 

 

 

If we come back with the following options, what is the *family* going to do or

decide? And the mundaa--mundee also!

 

 

 

a) Let us say some of us go beyond the Kutaas and so on, as must ALWAYS be the

responsible case and find that the match is not Kosher, will Love and Matthew

separate gracefully and go their own ways, for the rest of their lives and never

ever 'sigh' wistfully for one another, whether they remain celibate for the rest

of their lifetimes or worse -- get married to someone else but continue to

remember what it could have been if *loving* uncles and the rest of the family

did not step in and rain on their marriage?

 

 

 

b) Or let us take the cheerier scenario: Let us say the match was found good but

there was a bit of this or bit of that that can be fixed by a gemstone or pooja

or feeding thirty cattle-heads (if you can find those!) or so on and the two

modern kids go along with all that and ten years from now after they get married

with the CLAN's blessing -- they find that they have a child but really really

they should not have gotten married!

 

 

 

Which would you prefer? Scenario A or B? Which one would THEY prefer?

 

 

 

If Matt was not caucasian but a South Indian, would that have made a difference

to your question? What if he was 'Greek?'

 

 

 

I know I am throwing too many googlies at the distraught uncle who wants to do

the best for his beloved neice and her beau, but have you ever really sat down

with Love (I mean the emotion and not just your bhatijee!) and really asked her

what she wanted and why?

 

 

 

If the above 'remedial' procedure ever happens in your life, please practice the

ancient art of ACTIVE LISTENING! Which means you will have to be completely

QUIET, inside and outside when you sit down with your beloved Love!

 

 

 

I know I am being facetious and kind of harsh, but at least someone must think

of Love and Matthew and how or why they got connected?

 

 

 

YOU should be doing that, actually :-)

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " dsharmarelwanijyot isha "

<dsharmarelwanijyot isha wrote:

 

>

 

> Hello respected Jyotishas, Jyotishas in Learning, and those interested in

astrology.

 

>

 

> I am new to this group. Indeed, I sought it out because I am seeking

additional opinions for the horoscope matching of my niece.This is the first

time we've had cause to consult with a Jyotish.

 

>

 

> My niece (her name is Love) is born and raised in the US. She is 26. She has

been dating a boy (Matthew) for a few months whom her parents like very much.

She came to her parents to ask if they would match the horoscopes, and they

asked me to help. We are Sindhi Indians; Matthew is Caucasian.

 

>

 

> Friends, I have asked two different Jyotishas who are highly regarded and whom

I trust very much in their education and experience. I am feeling very

conflicted in what advice I should give to Love's parents.

 

>

 

> I hope that you all will be willing to help me out.

 

>

 

> The Guna (Ashtkoot) is coming to 33.5 (out of 36). That is excellent, I know!

The points that are not 100% are: Vashya (1 of 2) and Tara/Dina (1.5 of 3). The

rest are 100%.

 

>

 

> The boy's nakshatra is Revati; Love's is Bharani.

 

>

 

> The issue is that Matthew has Rahu in his 5th house and Ketu in his 11th house

in his Lagna chart. In his Navamsa chart, he has Ravi and Ketu in his 8th house.

He also has Sukra and Moon in his 12th house. He has nothing in his 7th house.

 

>

 

> Love has Rahu in her 3rd house and Ketu in her 9th house. In her 7th house,

she has Pluto and Sani. Sukra is in her 2nd house.

 

>

 

> I am happy to provide anymore details, including full planets in all houses.

They are looking for advice on whether to get engaged or not.

 

>

 

> One Jyotish has said that the pair is FANTASTIC and that we should not let

this kind of pairing slip from our hands; the other Jyotish has said the boy

will cheat on her and the relationship will end in about 10 years in a divorce.

He says that Love should run as fast as she can because there is no indication

of a divorce in her own horoscope. He says there is every indication she should

have a wonderful marriage.

 

>

 

> If anyone can help shed some light; please do...We would be truly grateful.

 

>

 

> girls dob 14th april 1983 10:22 PM ridgewood nj usa

 

> boys dob 19th february 1980 2:44 AM new brunswick nj usa

 

>

 

> Sincerely

 

>

 

> Dhiraj Sharma Relwani

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

If I understand correctly, you have already got diverse opinions from two

jyotishis. The seed of doubt is planted already in the minds involved and it

will not change into belief easily. Let us say someone strongly convinces you

(or them) one way or the other, anytime something negative happens, the doubts

will come back flooding and another series of jyotish readings will be sought

and the same confusion continue. Since they fell in love, for good or bad some

karma is unfolding perhaps and perhaps be discharged through experiencing,

observing and learning from it (as opposed to reaching out for magical remedies

etc). Karma can be deferred perhaps but does not dissolve by itself. Others may

disagree depending on their perspectives etc.

 

Please understand, I am not trying to coerce you into changing your approach if

you are fully convinced that that is how matters must proceed.

 

You have seen how jyotishis using the same charts vary so dramtically in their

opinions and readings. We all want perfect lives with no loss, no pain, no

risks, all certainty guaranteed. Part of the human experience is about how to

float in this ocean of uncertainty and gain experience from it, rather than

waiting for the perfect and safest boat to arrive. Part of that is because we

are not fully convinced that there are more than one lifetimes and most of the

anxiety, angst and restlessness to seek the perfect solution arises from the

belief that there is only one lifetime and this is it!

 

I think the parents gave wise advice to leave the horoscopes near the family

Gods!

 

In the meantime, hopefully you find whatever it is you are seeking!

 

RR

 

<BTW, I am a very ordinary human being whose ears burn when someone calls me

" esteemed " etc. :-(

 

 

, Danny Sharma Relwani Jyotisha

<dsharmarelwanijyotisha wrote:

>

> Hello Rohiniranjan (and all others),

>

> Facetiousness aside, I appreciate your point. I hope that I can give you more

clarity:

>

> About two months into dating each other, Love went to her parents and asked if

they would match the horoscopes. Her parents told her quite simply: Don't do the

horoscopes if you already love this boy. They suggested: Put the charts inside

of their mandiir in the house in front of Shiv Baghuan and Ambai Mata, and let

the gods take care of it. My niece was very adamant and still is.

>

> Part of her opinion is that she strong believe in this. Another part is that

she has some family members a few years older who did the horoscopes, saw the

match was poor (19 guna, etc), got married and are now stuck in poor situations.

Yet another part is that based on her interactions with Matthew, she thought the

match would be excellent and everyone could proceed with a happy heart. And the

final part is that: She says that she is not so far into this that she could not

walk away from it. Her main concern is that she wants to be close to her parents

and care for them in their old age, which her older sibling is not going to do.

She says she wants a harmonious and happy home no matter what. She also has said

that she is invested enough to not want to walk away unless for a very good

reason.

>

> Esteemed Rohiniranjan, I want nothing more then for my niece to be happy.

Perhaps that makes me the part of the over-involved and over-concerned uncle. It

happens that Love is very insistent on having a concrete answer; now especially,

she says that if the majority of the interpretation indicates adultery or

infidelity, she can't in good conscience put herself or her future children in

that position.

>

> Of course, I am listening to her with ears and heart. It's a good point you

make, and one that parents should of course practice.

>

> If I posessed the knowledge myself, I wouldn't be " bugging " you good people;

but yes this is serious, and of course we just want the best.

>

> I do thank you for writing out such a thoughtful note. To answer your precise

question, in the first situation, Love says that they would separate because she

wouldn't want to live her life in fear of being cheated on. Matthew, I believe,

is so affected by his past (father cheating on mother) that he might accept it

at face value and agree to separate. Either way, he is agreeing with her,

however difficult it is, since he knows it's important to her. If it were the

second option, I'm not sure I can answer that. I certainly don't know. But I do

know they're just looking for as much education here as possible.

>

> I hope this is helpful.

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 9/9/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Conflicting analysis of horoscopes - your

respected opinions requested

>

> Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:24 AM

 

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Relwani-Saanyi,

>

>

>

> Before you send us jyotishis away to tweak at our abacuses and other gadgets,

may I ask a simple and straightforward question?

>

>

>

> If we come back with the following options, what is the *family* going to do

or decide? And the mundaa--mundee also!

>

>

>

> a) Let us say some of us go beyond the Kutaas and so on, as must ALWAYS be the

responsible case and find that the match is not Kosher, will Love and Matthew

separate gracefully and go their own ways, for the rest of their lives and never

ever 'sigh' wistfully for one another, whether they remain celibate for the rest

of their lifetimes or worse -- get married to someone else but continue to

remember what it could have been if *loving* uncles and the rest of the family

did not step in and rain on their marriage?

>

>

>

> b) Or let us take the cheerier scenario: Let us say the match was found good

but there was a bit of this or bit of that that can be fixed by a gemstone or

pooja or feeding thirty cattle-heads (if you can find those!) or so on and the

two modern kids go along with all that and ten years from now after they get

married with the CLAN's blessing -- they find that they have a child but really

really they should not have gotten married!

>

>

>

> Which would you prefer? Scenario A or B? Which one would THEY prefer?

>

>

>

> If Matt was not caucasian but a South Indian, would that have made a

difference to your question? What if he was 'Greek?'

>

>

>

> I know I am throwing too many googlies at the distraught uncle who wants to do

the best for his beloved neice and her beau, but have you ever really sat down

with Love (I mean the emotion and not just your bhatijee!) and really asked her

what she wanted and why?

>

>

>

> If the above 'remedial' procedure ever happens in your life, please practice

the ancient art of ACTIVE LISTENING! Which means you will have to be completely

QUIET, inside and outside when you sit down with your beloved Love!

>

>

>

> I know I am being facetious and kind of harsh, but at least someone must think

of Love and Matthew and how or why they got connected?

>

>

>

> YOU should be doing that, actually :-)

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

> , " dsharmarelwanijyot isha "

<dsharmarelwanijyot isha@> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Hello respected Jyotishas, Jyotishas in Learning, and those interested in

astrology.

>

> >

>

> > I am new to this group. Indeed, I sought it out because I am seeking

additional opinions for the horoscope matching of my niece.This is the first

time we've had cause to consult with a Jyotish.

>

> >

>

> > My niece (her name is Love) is born and raised in the US. She is 26. She has

been dating a boy (Matthew) for a few months whom her parents like very much.

She came to her parents to ask if they would match the horoscopes, and they

asked me to help. We are Sindhi Indians; Matthew is Caucasian.

>

> >

>

> > Friends, I have asked two different Jyotishas who are highly regarded and

whom I trust very much in their education and experience. I am feeling very

conflicted in what advice I should give to Love's parents.

>

> >

>

> > I hope that you all will be willing to help me out.

>

> >

>

> > The Guna (Ashtkoot) is coming to 33.5 (out of 36). That is excellent, I

know! The points that are not 100% are: Vashya (1 of 2) and Tara/Dina (1.5 of

3). The rest are 100%.

>

> >

>

> > The boy's nakshatra is Revati; Love's is Bharani.

>

> >

>

> > The issue is that Matthew has Rahu in his 5th house and Ketu in his 11th

house in his Lagna chart. In his Navamsa chart, he has Ravi and Ketu in his 8th

house. He also has Sukra and Moon in his 12th house. He has nothing in his 7th

house.

>

> >

>

> > Love has Rahu in her 3rd house and Ketu in her 9th house. In her 7th house,

she has Pluto and Sani. Sukra is in her 2nd house.

>

> >

>

> > I am happy to provide anymore details, including full planets in all houses.

They are looking for advice on whether to get engaged or not.

>

> >

>

> > One Jyotish has said that the pair is FANTASTIC and that we should not let

this kind of pairing slip from our hands; the other Jyotish has said the boy

will cheat on her and the relationship will end in about 10 years in a divorce.

He says that Love should run as fast as she can because there is no indication

of a divorce in her own horoscope. He says there is every indication she should

have a wonderful marriage.

>

> >

>

> > If anyone can help shed some light; please do...We would be truly grateful.

>

> >

>

> > girls dob 14th april 1983 10:22 PM ridgewood nj usa

>

> > boys dob 19th february 1980 2:44 AM new brunswick nj usa

>

> >

>

> > Sincerely

>

> >

>

> > Dhiraj Sharma Relwani

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Dheeraj (Danny)

I got interested in the chart of your niece Love and her boyfriend Mathew and

would like to add my piece below:-

Matthew's chart is very good.His nakshatra is Revati, the best among the whole

constellation and said to be Moon's favourite wife. 7th lord Venus is exalted in

5th house signifies that he is extremely romantic and lovable lad.This

constitutes a Rajyoga by itself besides mercury in 4th depicting his wisdom and

a happy attitude to life.

 

On the other hand Love's chart is not so reciprocative.A Scorpio too, with Mars

in the company of an afflicted sun in 6th house, she is expected to be of a

fighting spirit. Rahu in 8th house does not bode well for husband's longevity,

though the effect may not be too bad because of Rahu being in its

Mooltrikona.Her navmasa chart too is not so promising with Rahu and sun in 7th

house.

The matrimonial matching has 25 kutas not bad at all. There is no nadi and rasis

too match well. Matthew is devata while Love is human works satisfactory.

So on the whole while the match is ok since there is no possibility of a

divorce,but the girl shall have to be extremely careful in her relationship with

a nice boy otherwise.

Regards,

P.N.Razdan

 

, Danny Sharma Relwani Jyotisha

<dsharmarelwanijyotisha wrote:

>

> Hello Rohiniranjan (and all others),

>

> Facetiousness aside, I appreciate your point. I hope that I can give you more

clarity:

>

> About two months into dating each other, Love went to her parents and asked if

they would match the horoscopes. Her parents told her quite simply: Don't do the

horoscopes if you already love this boy. They suggested: Put the charts inside

of their mandiir in the house in front of Shiv Baghuan and Ambai Mata, and let

the gods take care of it. My niece was very adamant and still is.

>

> Part of her opinion is that she strong believe in this. Another part is that

she has some family members a few years older who did the horoscopes, saw the

match was poor (19 guna, etc), got married and are now stuck in poor situations.

Yet another part is that based on her interactions with Matthew, she thought the

match would be excellent and everyone could proceed with a happy heart. And the

final part is that: She says that she is not so far into this that she could not

walk away from it. Her main concern is that she wants to be close to her parents

and care for them in their old age, which her older sibling is not going to do.

She says she wants a harmonious and happy home no matter what. She also has said

that she is invested enough to not want to walk away unless for a very good

reason.

>

> Esteemed Rohiniranjan, I want nothing more then for my niece to be happy.

Perhaps that makes me the part of the over-involved and over-concerned uncle. It

happens that Love is very insistent on having a concrete answer; now especially,

she says that if the majority of the interpretation indicates adultery or

infidelity, she can't in good conscience put herself or her future children in

that position.

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> Of course, I am listening to her with ears and heart. It's a good point you

make, and one that parents should of course practice.

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> If I posessed the knowledge myself, I wouldn't be " bugging " you good people;

but yes this is serious, and of course we just want the best.

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> I do thank you for writing out such a thoughtful note. To answer your precise

question, in the first situation, Love says that they would separate because she

wouldn't want to live her life in fear of being cheated on. Matthew, I believe,

is so affected by his past (father cheating on mother) that he might accept it

at face value and agree to separate. Either way, he is agreeing with her,

however difficult it is, since he knows it's important to her. If it were the

second option, I'm not sure I can answer that. I certainly don't know. But I do

know they're just looking for as much education here as possible.

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> I hope this is helpful.

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> --- On Wed, 9/9/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

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> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Conflicting analysis of horoscopes - your

respected opinions requested

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> Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:24 AM

 

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> Dear Relwani-Saanyi,

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> Before you send us jyotishis away to tweak at our abacuses and other gadgets,

may I ask a simple and straightforward question?

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> If we come back with the following options, what is the *family* going to do

or decide? And the mundaa--mundee also!

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> a) Let us say some of us go beyond the Kutaas and so on, as must ALWAYS be the

responsible case and find that the match is not Kosher, will Love and Matthew

separate gracefully and go their own ways, for the rest of their lives and never

ever 'sigh' wistfully for one another, whether they remain celibate for the rest

of their lifetimes or worse -- get married to someone else but continue to

remember what it could have been if *loving* uncles and the rest of the family

did not step in and rain on their marriage?

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> b) Or let us take the cheerier scenario: Let us say the match was found good

but there was a bit of this or bit of that that can be fixed by a gemstone or

pooja or feeding thirty cattle-heads (if you can find those!) or so on and the

two modern kids go along with all that and ten years from now after they get

married with the CLAN's blessing -- they find that they have a child but really

really they should not have gotten married!

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> Which would you prefer? Scenario A or B? Which one would THEY prefer?

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> If Matt was not caucasian but a South Indian, would that have made a

difference to your question? What if he was 'Greek?'

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> I know I am throwing too many googlies at the distraught uncle who wants to do

the best for his beloved neice and her beau, but have you ever really sat down

with Love (I mean the emotion and not just your bhatijee!) and really asked her

what she wanted and why?

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> If the above 'remedial' procedure ever happens in your life, please practice

the ancient art of ACTIVE LISTENING! Which means you will have to be completely

QUIET, inside and outside when you sit down with your beloved Love!

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> I know I am being facetious and kind of harsh, but at least someone must think

of Love and Matthew and how or why they got connected?

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> YOU should be doing that, actually :-)

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> Rohiniranjan

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> , " dsharmarelwanijyot isha "

<dsharmarelwanijyot isha@> wrote:

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> > Hello respected Jyotishas, Jyotishas in Learning, and those interested in

astrology.

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> > I am new to this group. Indeed, I sought it out because I am seeking

additional opinions for the horoscope matching of my niece.This is the first

time we've had cause to consult with a Jyotish.

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> >

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> > My niece (her name is Love) is born and raised in the US. She is 26. She has

been dating a boy (Matthew) for a few months whom her parents like very much.

She came to her parents to ask if they would match the horoscopes, and they

asked me to help. We are Sindhi Indians; Matthew is Caucasian.

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> > Friends, I have asked two different Jyotishas who are highly regarded and

whom I trust very much in their education and experience. I am feeling very

conflicted in what advice I should give to Love's parents.

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> > I hope that you all will be willing to help me out.

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> > The Guna (Ashtkoot) is coming to 33.5 (out of 36). That is excellent, I

know! The points that are not 100% are: Vashya (1 of 2) and Tara/Dina (1.5 of

3). The rest are 100%.

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> > The boy's nakshatra is Revati; Love's is Bharani.

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> > The issue is that Matthew has Rahu in his 5th house and Ketu in his 11th

house in his Lagna chart. In his Navamsa chart, he has Ravi and Ketu in his 8th

house. He also has Sukra and Moon in his 12th house. He has nothing in his 7th

house.

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> > Love has Rahu in her 3rd house and Ketu in her 9th house. In her 7th house,

she has Pluto and Sani. Sukra is in her 2nd house.

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> > I am happy to provide anymore details, including full planets in all houses.

They are looking for advice on whether to get engaged or not.

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> > One Jyotish has said that the pair is FANTASTIC and that we should not let

this kind of pairing slip from our hands; the other Jyotish has said the boy

will cheat on her and the relationship will end in about 10 years in a divorce.

He says that Love should run as fast as she can because there is no indication

of a divorce in her own horoscope. He says there is every indication she should

have a wonderful marriage.

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> > If anyone can help shed some light; please do...We would be truly grateful.

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> > girls dob 14th april 1983 10:22 PM ridgewood nj usa

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> > boys dob 19th february 1980 2:44 AM new brunswick nj usa

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> > Sincerely

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> > Dhiraj Sharma Relwani

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