Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Dear friends. He calls me Paroksha professor. Would you mind if I call him Zero professor as he has neither the Paroksha jnana (admittedly) nor the Pratyaksha jnana. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya Re: Re: Fwd: a Koulian calendrical dream Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:38 PM Kaul had not seen " Vara " in Atharvana Jyotisha. He had not seen Rashi in the Puranas. He had not seen mention of astrology in Mahabharata and Manu Smriti. He wants to leave out Nakshatra from Panchanga as nobody had told him that the Nakshatra is an anga of Panchanga. He admits that he has no paroksha jnana, ie. the ability to infer logically. He has no Pratyaksha jnana either, as he had not read anything worthwhile. He calls Varahamihira as the greatest Chartlatan. He is lucky that nobody had yet called him so. He calls the Vedic astrology as the Gretest fraud. He is lucky that so far nobody had called him so. He does not know Sanskrit as we have seen that he does not understand Sanskrit verses. He does not have knowledge of Hindu Astrology and astrnomy. Once somewhere sometime he bagged a prize in astrology by doing hit or miss and that is why he thinks that astrology is bunkum. He goes on writing long mails to change the topic so that others are confused at the end. His victims are the gullible people who does not have time and opportunity to read the literature themselves. One can go on an on telling the ways of Kaul. --- On Thu, 9/24/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Re: Fwd: a Koulian calendrical dream Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:18 AM It is another kaulian fake id when ever he is in trouble with any grp this kind of funny dreams appears in fake id s all in the Name of a calender ,we must appreciate such a self less effort( as we r ignorent of hidden agenda s ) ,even they r happy when ram or krishn is appearing in any post ,so that it givs them always chance to blast all veda s as if interpolated and sure it is to purify our vedic concept which they themself dont know what is it in reality . even Dont ask them why veda s has devided into 4 by veda vyasa why not 40 or 400 ancient_indian_ astrology, Sreenadh OG <sreesog wrote: > hinducivilization, SIVA EXPORIUM sivaexpo@ wrote: > > Namasthe to all friends: > > > > Being member of half a dozen I spend around two hours a day reading mails, > > especially in the Hindu calendar, Hindu civilization and iyer123 > > > > As I laid my limbs on my bed and slept away the other day, I had a terrible dream, may be > > around early morning... I felt engulfed by a dark hot matter which sucked me into a tunnel. > > Soon I found light at > the other end and landed in a what appeared as a wrestler's arena. > > Only a couple of competitors were there. > > > > All our festivals are celebrated on wrong dates and I want to bring back the vedic style > > around, a divine voice echoed. Imported things have no place here added the voice. > > > > A charlatan suddenly appeared on the scene. Noting is imported he averred; all are only > > evolved here in the course of time. If that be the case why don't you call days as one two > > three and four instead of Sunday, Monday etc and why then seven days in a week, > > why not fifteen? > > > > This is a necessary evil said the divine one. > > > > But Rasis are definitely imported and there is no Mesha, Rishaba etc in the vedas and > > come what may I will not allow that. So too, no other planets like Mangal, Sani, etc except > > sun and moon -- uttered the untiring. > > > > Just then Ahura > Mazda appeared " Ashem Vohu Vashistem asti; Ushtã asti; Ushtã ahmãi; > > Hyat ashãi1; Vahishtãi ashem. " (Righteousness is the best good and it is happiness. > > Happiness is to him who is righteous for the sake of the best righteousness -- Righteousness > > is truth ( The Veda's - Ritam cha satyam cha tapaso adi jayate ). If these are imported were > > not the exporters also part of you? Was not the Chaldean Marduk your Indra? Is not apsu > > ( Chaldean abzu ) a Sanskrit word for watery abyss ? > > Uru-ashi is Chaldean for waters of the night --- your celestial nymph Urvasi ( ap-sara ) . > > Vedic and all these cultures originated from an Artic home. Are we not part of your Vedic > > heritage ? Ahura exclaimed. > > > > Are you not today importing from NASA, Switzerland your planetary charts? Is not your > > computing system imported? , the charlatan asked again. Why do you fight on a name? > > What does > it matter to the heavens if you call your imaginary thirty degrees as mesh , > > vrishabha or madhu or madhava. Will man on the street know what Madhu and > > Madhava are? They are as alien as what the imported are to you. > > > > Just then a thundering voice was heard and a mlecha descendent on the arena. Why > > do you flay me day in and day out? I was ordained to propound astronomy and > > also architecture around the world. My Siddhartha was placed for your beneficial > > use, ages ago, and if there was any flaw you have only to improve on it and not to > > find fault with me now. It is not my fault that you have not corrected your calendar > > for precession of the equinoxes. Your lethargy was the cause. > > > > You, mlecha, are the cause of all the trouble now; the ayanamsas are also a humbug, > > the divine scolded him again. The entire country is intoxicated with the lahari of > > a Lihiri, he > lamented. > > > > Just then, a rocket landed from Sriharikotta. . Hari Om where is the starting point. > > It must be a coordinated one and not anything else is acceptable to me. A long > > drawn out malla yuddha was on stage.. > > > > Let us leave it at that, Sani is changing the house; let us urgently cast the horoscopes of > > bhagawan Ram and Krisha. They are waiting on the line to see our prediction > > for the next year, some one was heard saying. > > > > A whole array of the planets shouted from heaven. Where we not mentioned > > in your vedas? Why do you deny us. Are we only acid fuming, inhospitable > > desolate waste, and matter no grass to the earthlings? What when the Atharvan > > worshiped us " divi chara griha " were we not inclusive ? Then why do you go > > after the stars that are far far away from us and bother about their division? > > > > Some one was heard saying that you > imported the 28 stars also from China. > > Then you are net importer only-- just like for consumer goods also now? > > > > The mlecha warned of what is going to happen on the doomsday 13 number > > he propounded in long count calendar, that lay just a couple of years ahead, > > on the winter solstice day of December 21, 2012. Earth quakes, tsunamis, > > continental shifts, wobbling of the earth, change of poles, etc. Satellite > > communication systems will be destroyed; solar flares will swallow a large > > chunk of humanity, the planets will be forced to change their courses -- a horrible > > list of things to come -- not so far off. > > > > We have heard of predictions in the past. Only Vedic astrologers are capable of > > predicting correct events from wrong data, the wise voice averred. > > > > Yes, said the Mlecha; if the above predictions go wrong at least, will you agree > > that my > siddanatha is correct? > > > > Will you correct your calendar before this date and return to your Vedic > > prescription or dissolve in the disaster ? > > > > Just then a bearded bard from Bengal flashed on the scene: > > > > Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high; > > Where knowledge is free; > > Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow > > domestic walls; > > Where words come out from the depth of truth; > > Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection; > > Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the > > dreary desert sand of dead habit; > > Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action > > Into that heaven of freedom, let my country awake. > > > > Do not build domestic walls to the heavens. The heavens belong to the entire > > world and there is no import or export. What is > familiar please take as it is, > > but correct your calendar, the bard seemed to counsel. > > > > Just then on the arena's bill board some one pasted a notice. A new Vedic calendar was that, > > unfolded by a darsini. Will it save the times .Ke sara sara. > > > > > > T.V.Sivaraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Dear friends. He calls me Paroksha professor. Would you mind if I call him Zero professor as he has neither the Paroksha jnana (admittedly) nor the Pratyaksha jnana. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya Re: Re: Fwd: a Koulian calendrical dream Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:38 PM Kaul had not seen " Vara " in Atharvana Jyotisha. He had not seen Rashi in the Puranas. He had not seen mention of astrology in Mahabharata and Manu Smriti. He wants to leave out Nakshatra from Panchanga as nobody had told him that the Nakshatra is an anga of Panchanga. He admits that he has no paroksha jnana, ie. the ability to infer logically. He has no Pratyaksha jnana either, as he had not read anything worthwhile. He calls Varahamihira as the greatest Chartlatan. He is lucky that nobody had yet called him so. He calls the Vedic astrology as the Gretest fraud. He is lucky that so far nobody had called him so. He does not know Sanskrit as we have seen that he does not understand Sanskrit verses. He does not have knowledge of Hindu Astrology and astrnomy. Once somewhere sometime he bagged a prize in astrology by doing hit or miss and that is why he thinks that astrology is bunkum. He goes on writing long mails to change the topic so that others are confused at the end. His victims are the gullible people who does not have time and opportunity to read the literature themselves. One can go on an on telling the ways of Kaul. --- On Thu, 9/24/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Re: Fwd: a Koulian calendrical dream Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:18 AM It is another kaulian fake id when ever he is in trouble with any grp this kind of funny dreams appears in fake id s all in the Name of a calender ,we must appreciate such a self less effort( as we r ignorent of hidden agenda s ) ,even they r happy when ram or krishn is appearing in any post ,so that it givs them always chance to blast all veda s as if interpolated and sure it is to purify our vedic concept which they themself dont know what is it in reality . even Dont ask them why veda s has devided into 4 by veda vyasa why not 40 or 400 ancient_indian_ astrology, Sreenadh OG <sreesog wrote: > hinducivilization, SIVA EXPORIUM sivaexpo@ wrote: > > Namasthe to all friends: > > > > Being member of half a dozen I spend around two hours a day reading mails, > > especially in the Hindu calendar, Hindu civilization and iyer123 > > > > As I laid my limbs on my bed and slept away the other day, I had a terrible dream, may be > > around early morning... I felt engulfed by a dark hot matter which sucked me into a tunnel. > > Soon I found light at > the other end and landed in a what appeared as a wrestler's arena. > > Only a couple of competitors were there. > > > > All our festivals are celebrated on wrong dates and I want to bring back the vedic style > > around, a divine voice echoed. Imported things have no place here added the voice. > > > > A charlatan suddenly appeared on the scene. Noting is imported he averred; all are only > > evolved here in the course of time. If that be the case why don't you call days as one two > > three and four instead of Sunday, Monday etc and why then seven days in a week, > > why not fifteen? > > > > This is a necessary evil said the divine one. > > > > But Rasis are definitely imported and there is no Mesha, Rishaba etc in the vedas and > > come what may I will not allow that. So too, no other planets like Mangal, Sani, etc except > > sun and moon -- uttered the untiring. > > > > Just then Ahura > Mazda appeared " Ashem Vohu Vashistem asti; Ushtã asti; Ushtã ahmãi; > > Hyat ashãi1; Vahishtãi ashem. " (Righteousness is the best good and it is happiness. > > Happiness is to him who is righteous for the sake of the best righteousness -- Righteousness > > is truth ( The Veda's - Ritam cha satyam cha tapaso adi jayate ). If these are imported were > > not the exporters also part of you? Was not the Chaldean Marduk your Indra? Is not apsu > > ( Chaldean abzu ) a Sanskrit word for watery abyss ? > > Uru-ashi is Chaldean for waters of the night --- your celestial nymph Urvasi ( ap-sara ) . > > Vedic and all these cultures originated from an Artic home. Are we not part of your Vedic > > heritage ? Ahura exclaimed. > > > > Are you not today importing from NASA, Switzerland your planetary charts? Is not your > > computing system imported? , the charlatan asked again. Why do you fight on a name? > > What does > it matter to the heavens if you call your imaginary thirty degrees as mesh , > > vrishabha or madhu or madhava. Will man on the street know what Madhu and > > Madhava are? They are as alien as what the imported are to you. > > > > Just then a thundering voice was heard and a mlecha descendent on the arena. Why > > do you flay me day in and day out? I was ordained to propound astronomy and > > also architecture around the world. My Siddhartha was placed for your beneficial > > use, ages ago, and if there was any flaw you have only to improve on it and not to > > find fault with me now. It is not my fault that you have not corrected your calendar > > for precession of the equinoxes. Your lethargy was the cause. > > > > You, mlecha, are the cause of all the trouble now; the ayanamsas are also a humbug, > > the divine scolded him again. The entire country is intoxicated with the lahari of > > a Lihiri, he > lamented. > > > > Just then, a rocket landed from Sriharikotta. . Hari Om where is the starting point. > > It must be a coordinated one and not anything else is acceptable to me. A long > > drawn out malla yuddha was on stage.. > > > > Let us leave it at that, Sani is changing the house; let us urgently cast the horoscopes of > > bhagawan Ram and Krisha. They are waiting on the line to see our prediction > > for the next year, some one was heard saying. > > > > A whole array of the planets shouted from heaven. Where we not mentioned > > in your vedas? Why do you deny us. Are we only acid fuming, inhospitable > > desolate waste, and matter no grass to the earthlings? What when the Atharvan > > worshiped us " divi chara griha " were we not inclusive ? Then why do you go > > after the stars that are far far away from us and bother about their division? > > > > Some one was heard saying that you > imported the 28 stars also from China. > > Then you are net importer only-- just like for consumer goods also now? > > > > The mlecha warned of what is going to happen on the doomsday 13 number > > he propounded in long count calendar, that lay just a couple of years ahead, > > on the winter solstice day of December 21, 2012. Earth quakes, tsunamis, > > continental shifts, wobbling of the earth, change of poles, etc. Satellite > > communication systems will be destroyed; solar flares will swallow a large > > chunk of humanity, the planets will be forced to change their courses -- a horrible > > list of things to come -- not so far off. > > > > We have heard of predictions in the past. Only Vedic astrologers are capable of > > predicting correct events from wrong data, the wise voice averred. > > > > Yes, said the Mlecha; if the above predictions go wrong at least, will you agree > > that my > siddanatha is correct? > > > > Will you correct your calendar before this date and return to your Vedic > > prescription or dissolve in the disaster ? > > > > Just then a bearded bard from Bengal flashed on the scene: > > > > Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high; > > Where knowledge is free; > > Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow > > domestic walls; > > Where words come out from the depth of truth; > > Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection; > > Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the > > dreary desert sand of dead habit; > > Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action > > Into that heaven of freedom, let my country awake. > > > > Do not build domestic walls to the heavens. The heavens belong to the entire > > world and there is no import or export. What is > familiar please take as it is, > > but correct your calendar, the bard seemed to counsel. > > > > Just then on the arena's bill board some one pasted a notice. A new Vedic calendar was that, > > unfolded by a darsini. Will it save the times .Ke sara sara. > > > > > > T.V.Sivaraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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