Diwali 2009 M/Laxmi Puja - Which Day in NZ

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Shri A Sharmaji,

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

< Seeking direction, as per current unreformed panchaanga>

 

This year the " almighty " Lahiri and the actual i.e. " unreformed " and

" reformed " Dipavali are coinciding on October 17, 2009 for India.

 

< Which day should Diwali MahaLakshmi Puja be observed in Auckland NZ for

2009? For those doing only the Puja then enjoying the Utsava. >

 

 

 

As per Report of the SAHA Calendar Reform Committee, page 104, Dipavali

(Puja) is to be celebrated in Pradosha of Pradosha Vyapini (Mykhya mana)

Asvhina Amavasya. It is known as Kartika Amavasya as per Gauna-mana,

followed in UP, MP, Bihar, Rajasthan etc. etc.

 

Since the geocentric tithis including Amavasya etc. start/end at one and the

same UT/GMT throughout the world, though technically speaking, it is against

scientific as well as shastriac injunctions because geocentric phenomena are

for an imaginary place inside the bowels of the earth and are without

corrections for parallax for the sun and the moon for the relevant place,

you will have to celebrate it on Sat. October 17 sometime before the start

of Amavasya and can continue it even after 21-48, after Pradosha ends, if

you so desire.

 

It cannot, however, be celebrated on Sunday, October 18 in Auckland since

the geocentric Amavasya ends there before the Start of Pradosha on that

date. We have to bear in mind that pradosha takes place every day after

sunset for about two hours but the main criterion for Dipavali is

Amavasya+plus pradosha of Ashvina/Kartika Krishna paksha.

 

Since " Vedic astrologers " can make correct predictions only from incorrect

data, geocentric longitude of the Moon being quite often plus/minus up to

one degree from the topocentric i.e. after corrections for longitude and

latitude of the relevant place, that is why they find the bhukta-bhogya of

dasha etc, yielding correct results from geocentric lunar longitudes since

they are fundamentally baseless and as such wrong! " Vedic astrologers " also

use the same baseless and useless geocentric longitudes for patri-melapak

etc. and no wonder, every couple, after getting the gunas tallied, " lives

happily(?) ever after " .

 

The common man following these " Vedic astrologers " blindly like blind

following blind also celebrates festivals like Dipavali as per geocentric

phenomena, only because " Vedic astrologers " advise him to do so!! That is

the real proof of tamoguni budhih!

 

Let us the case of this year's Dipavali for Auckland, New Zealand, in your

case. The longitude of that place is 174E42 and latitude 36S52. After

necessary parallax corrections, therefore, the start of Amavasya for

Auckland is October 17, 2009 at about 8-28 am UT/GMT, which makes it 21-28

hrs for Auckland, New Zealand, zonal time. The topocentric Amavasya ends on

October 18, 2009, at about 7-17 am UT/GMT, which makes it 20 hrs 17 mts. for

Auckland, New Zealand Zonal Time.

 

You can see the difference for yourself! On October 17, topocentric

Amavasya for New Zealand starts at 21-28 which is just twenty minutes before

the end of pradosha! On October 18, the Amavasya ends at 19 hrs. 17 minutes

---again before the start of pradosha! As such, you must actually celebrate

Dipavali on October 17 itself even as per Topocentric tithis, because that

is the only day when the real Amavasya and Pradosha are prevailing

simultaneously for Auckland actually!

 

There is not a difference of more than a few minutes between geocentric and

topocentric starting and ending moments of Amavaya on that date for Auckland

and that is why you can celebrate it without any doubt on October 17, but

the same thing cannot be said about other places, where the difference

between geocentric and topocentric longitudes may make a difference of one

day in the celebration of Dipavali etc. festivals.

 

Jai Sheri Ram!

 

A K Kaul

 

 

 

 

 

HinduCalendar , A Sharma <asharmanz wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear HCReform Forum Members,

 

>

 

> Seeking direction, as per current unreformed panchaanga:

 

>

 

> Which day should Diwali MahaLakshmi Puja be observed in Auckland NZ for

2009? For those doing only the Puja then enjoying the Utsava.

 

>

 

> Data for consideration:

 

>

 

> Sat.17.Oct.2009:

 

> Sunrise 06:38, Sunset 19:35, Amaavasyaa starts 20:07, Pradosha ends 21:48.

 

 

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> Sun.17.Oct.2009:

 

> Sunrise 06:37, Amaavasyaa ends 18:33, Sunset 19:36, Pradosha ends 21:48.

 

>

 

> Pradosha:

 

> The first 1/5th period from Sunset to Sunrise or a six ghatee period from

Sunset going forward.

 

>

 

> Thank you in advance.

 

>

 

> ASharma.

 

>

 

 

 

 

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HinduCalendar , " Krishen " <jyotirved wrote:

 

 

Shri A. Sharma ji,

Jai Shri Ram!

<Unfortunately a Purohit Brahman Maha Sabha in Auckland NZ with their consultant

Jyotishee namely Vasant Bhai Shukla are disputing Sat.17.Oct.2009 and saying it

should be Sun.18.Oct.2009 based on Khandita Amaavasyaa Tithi on Sat.>

Almost every post from me contains a line in the end, " We do not need enemies to

ruin our dharma. 'Vedic astrologers' are doing it in a manner that would put to

shame even the sworn enemies of the real Vedic dharma " .

That is the reason why I am giving clarion call that we must revolt against the

tyrany of " Vedic jyotishis " who make us celebrate all the festivals on the days

that pleases their whims and fancies, instead of the the real Vedic or even

Pauranic lore.

When are you going to revolt aganst such tyrany? Dipavali is the real " muhurat "

for initating such an action!

Jai Shri Ram

A K Kaul

 

HinduCalendar , A Sharma <asharmanz@> wrote:

>

> Om Namaste aura Dhanyavaada Shree Kauljee.

>  

> Unfortunately a Purohit Brahman Maha Sabha in Auckland NZ with their

consultant Jyotishee namely Vasant Bhai Shukla are disputing Sat.17.Oct.2009 and

saying it should be Sun.18.Oct.2009 based on Khandita Amaavasyaa Tithi on Sat.

>  

> Other Brahmans have said Sat.17.Oct.2009 based on KarmaKaalaVyaapinee. This is

what you have said, Nirnay Sindhu says, and other internet sources are saying.

>  

> Thank you and much appreciated.

>  

> ASharma.

>

 

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