Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. No problem! RR_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. regards, Mouji ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM Jyoitish List... Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. No problem! RR_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Oh ! The late comers like me missed those all. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Re: Jyoitish List... Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:11 AM Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. regards, Mouji ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM Jyoitish List... Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. No problem! RR_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory M - Manoj Kumar Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM Re: Jyoitish List... Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. regards, Mouji ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM Jyoitish List... Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. No problem! RR_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Ms.Margaret and all We could still try to bring those experienced souls back to this list. This list can then become the court adorned by precious gems. Pradeep , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > M > > > > - > Manoj Kumar > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > regards, > > Mouji > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > Jyoitish List... > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > No problem! > > RR_ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Initially, that Ben's List/Group was powered by Major-doma news group. Still major portions of those postings/messages are available in zip format in files section of Jyotish-List at the following URL: jyotish-list/ Some of the postings are available in messages section. C.S.Ravindramani On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya < sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > > Oh ! The late comers like me missed those all. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 <mouji99%40>> > wrote: > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 <mouji99%40>> > Re: Jyoitish List... > <%40> > Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:11 AM > > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > regards, > > Mouji > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > > Jyoitish List... > > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality > to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed > to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK > Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the > sharings! > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > No problem! > > RR_ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Marg, As I remember him today, I think Martin Gansten was/is a very bright and articulate individual and quite brilliantly and logically conveyed and explained his beliefs and his personal position vis-a-vis jyotish as he had learned and practiced it. With his Danish co-researcher he had developed the progression-based theory regarding the Nadi readings. They wrote a chapter in Houck's Anthology (36 teachers) which was a beautiful modern Jyotish collection and when last interacted with, was trying to create a body of evidence to support and illustrate the concept. While he had strong convictions, he was never disrespectful in a personal way, but of course back then, in jyotish lists of the kind that Ben introduced, there were fewer flame wars that utilized personal attacks, expletives and 'emotional outbursts', etc! Best regards, Ranjan , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > M > > > > - > Manoj Kumar > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > regards, > > Mouji > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > Jyoitish List... > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > No problem! > > RR_ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Pradeep jee, I have always felt this " Jyotish Group " list as a generational progression of Ben and Charles' Jyotish List! Kind of like a second generation phenomenon! A sequel, if you will, but not quite like Rambo II! ;-) RR_ , " Vijayadas " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Ms.Margaret and all > > We could still try to bring those experienced souls back to this list. This list can then become the court adorned by precious gems. > > Pradeep > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > > M > > > > > > > > - > > Manoj Kumar > > > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > > > regards, > > > > Mouji > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > > Jyoitish List... > > > > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > > > No problem! > > > > RR_ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 HI Rohini Ye Martin's talk was about progressions, and he was giving it to an astrology group in the South of England. I haven't read any of Martin's books, but I'm sure they are very well researched and written. best wishes M - rohinicrystal Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:47 AM Re: Jyoitish List... Dear Marg, As I remember him today, I think Martin Gansten was/is a very bright and articulate individual and quite brilliantly and logically conveyed and explained his beliefs and his personal position vis-a-vis jyotish as he had learned and practiced it. With his Danish co-researcher he had developed the progression-based theory regarding the Nadi readings. They wrote a chapter in Houck's Anthology (36 teachers) which was a beautiful modern Jyotish collection and when last interacted with, was trying to create a body of evidence to support and illustrate the concept. While he had strong convictions, he was never disrespectful in a personal way, but of course back then, in jyotish lists of the kind that Ben introduced, there were fewer flame wars that utilized personal attacks, expletives and 'emotional outbursts', etc! Best regards, Ranjan , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > M > > > > - > Manoj Kumar > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > regards, > > Mouji > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > Jyoitish List... > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > No problem! > > RR_ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I have to agree with Marg about dear Chandrashekharji without his sagely wisdom and wondeful presence this group has lots some of its luster and strength. however this list must maintain its composure. well happy diwali and may the forces of good always triumph over the forces of evil !!!! namaskar, raja gursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Ranjan Ji :-) Music teachers often say, if you practise continously without correcting the mistakes, then the mistakes gets institutionalised. Thus if the elder generation,with their snippets of wisdom,can be of great help. Pradeep , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Pradeep jee, > > I have always felt this " Jyotish Group " list as a generational progression of Ben and Charles' Jyotish List! Kind of like a second generation phenomenon! A sequel, if you will, but not quite like Rambo II! ;-) > > RR_ > > , " Vijayadas " <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ms.Margaret and all > > > > We could still try to bring those experienced souls back to this list. This list can then become the court adorned by precious gems. > > > > Pradeep > > > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > > > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > > > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > > > > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Manoj Kumar > > > > > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > > > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > > > > > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > > > Jyoitish List... > > > > > > > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > > > > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > > > > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > > > > > No problem! > > > > > > RR_ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Haha! So true ;-) , " Vijayadas " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Ranjan Ji > > :-) > > Music teachers often say, if you practise continously without correcting the mistakes, then the mistakes gets institutionalised. > > Thus if the elder generation,with their snippets of wisdom,can be of great help. > > Pradeep > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Pradeep jee, > > > > I have always felt this " Jyotish Group " list as a generational progression of Ben and Charles' Jyotish List! Kind of like a second generation phenomenon! A sequel, if you will, but not quite like Rambo II! ;-) > > > > RR_ > > > > , " Vijayadas " <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ms.Margaret and all > > > > > > We could still try to bring those experienced souls back to this list. This list can then become the court adorned by precious gems. > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I agree we had the wonderful Mr Rao, who often did tell us how it works and I still have some of his posts to remind me of jyotish techniques that still work, also we had Finn, bless him, and I so miss his little gems of wisdom and his forever uplifting us with maturity of insight and experience, and then there is Chandrashekhar who also had many nuggets of jyoitsh wisdom to share, and often seemed like an ancient sage who at the last minute would reply to begging posts for free readings where no one else had time. > > > > Miss them all and many more, like Marc Ben's friend who posted many extended thesis on darakarakas etc some copies of which I still hold dear. > > > > Aaaaha those were the days, inspiring ......then of course Martin Ganstein writing his thesis forever talking about Pingree......everyone helping shape his ideas and me often getting annoyed with him, poor martin. he came across to the UK recently to deliver a talk on western astrology but sadly I couldn't go along and be yet a further ....but unintentional.....thorn in his side... > > > > > > > > I think the difference nowadays is there is so much pressure to be on this or other site or group on the net, I find it hard to keep up and reluctant to lose or sell my soul to the ether......real life beckons more invitingly than virtual realities........but those days were good, thanks for the memory > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Manoj Kumar > > > > > > > > Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM > > > > Re: Jyoitish List... > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes those were the days where there was so much wisdom flowing all around. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > Fri, October 16, 2009 2:31:41 PM > > > > Jyoitish List... > > > > > > > > > > > > Years earlier -- as I was moving from the largesse of pre-internet reality to what we have now, Ben Collins allowed us a venue on Internet and managed to attract the likes of KN Rao and S. Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao and VAK Choudhury and a few others, many others truth be told! > > > > > > > > Thank you all for all that you taught and that I managed to learn from the sharings! > > > > > > > > Mostly about Jyotish, and its beauty but not how it works. > > > > > > > > No problem! > > > > > > > > RR_ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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