Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Dear freidns, Jai Shri Ram! <So Mr. Krishen admits that he has not understood the ramifications. I hope he will understand it after pondering over the same for more time.> This is yet another funny twist to his own statement by Shri Bhattacharjya himself since his original question was, " It seems Mr. Krishen did not read my earlier mail explaining the ramifications of projecting Lord Rama as God in the Balakanda, either by Valmiki himself or subsequently by another sage. " Can there be any Hindu who does not know that Bhagwan Ram is a divine incarnation of Vishnu and Valmiki Maharshi also has depicted Him like that in Balakanda and Uttarakanda? If some " vedic astrologer " does not believe Bhagwan Ram to be an Incarnation of Vishnu, that is his fault! But why should he present Maharshi Valmiki as the villain of the peace who would not like Bhagwan Ram to be presented as a divine Incarnations? it is therefore actually for Shri Bhattacharjya to understand the ramifications of his own statement/stand of denying the status of a divine Incarnation to Bhagwan Ram! < Secondly he is lying when he says that I agreed to the date December 3, 7323 BCE as Lord Rama's birth. I said that Dr. Vartak gave a ballpark figure around 7323 BCE from the precessional data and a historian would be satisfied with that. One may question the exact date given by Dr. Vartak but should not question the ballpark figure given from the precessional data.> Yet another confusing statement from Shri Bhattacharjya! When did Bhagwan Ram Incarnate according to him, if not on December 4, 7323 BCE? What type of agreement does he have with the “ballpark” figure of Dr. Vartak then, since Dr. Vartak claims that Shri Ram Incarnated on that date but Shri Bhattacharjya says He did not incarnate on that date exactly! <Mr. Krishen is talking about millions of years. Has he gone out of mind?> On the one hand, Shri Bhattacharjya wants everybody to believe in the gospel truth of the Surya Sidahnta, since that is an aarsha work of astronomy according to him. And if it is the same Surya Sidhanta, that talks of Treta Yuga, when Bhagwan Ram incarnated, having occurred millions of years back, it means that Maya the mlechha had gone out of mind actually! Naturally, Shri Bhattacharjya will have to decide whether to believe in Maya the mlechha or not! Secondly, if the Valmiki Ramayana itself says that Bhagwan Ram was destined to rule for eleven thousand years and He did actually rule for eleven thousand years, how could He have incarnated in 7323 BCE as per the same Valmiki Ramayana? And the Valmiki Ramayana also says that He incarnated in Treta Yuga. When did that yuga start according to Shri Bhattacharjya and how and why? <Let Mr. Krishen spell out what according to him is the date of Lord Rama even if it is a ballpark figure. If he has no idea what could be Lord Rama's date then let keep his mouth shut.> Mr. Bhatacharjya has no faith in the Valmiki Ramayana, since that claims that Bhagwan Ram was a divine incarnation whereas Mr. Bhattacharjya does not believe in that! Mr. Bhattacharjya has no faith in the Surya Sidhanta since that claims that Treta Yuga did actually take place millions of years back! He has faith only in " Vedic astrology " , obviously! As such, he should " do some nashta-jataka prashna " himself and try to establish the date of birth of Bhagwan Ram himself, instead of asking others to do that job for him. If he cannot do that job himself, in spite of being a “Vedic astrologer”then " let him keep his mouth shut " . Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > Re: [VRI] Fwd: [ind. & West. Astrology] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period Dear friends, So Mr. Krishen admits that he has not understood the ramifications. I hope he will understand it after pondering over the same for more time. Let him not be impatient. Secondly he is lying when he says that I agreed to the date December 3, 7323 BCE as Lord Rama's birth. I said that Dr. Vartak gave a ballpark figure around 7323 BCE from the precessional data and a historian would be satisfied with that. One may question the exact date given by Dr. Vartak but should not question the ballpark figure given from the precessional data. Mr. Krishen is talking about millions of years. Has he gone out of mind? Let Mr. Krishen spell out what according to him is the date of Lord Rama even if it is a ballpark figure. If he has no idea what could be Lord Rama's date then let keep his mouth shut. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Krishen <jyotirved </post?postID=0nSNId0Hg-1grV4PHGvp dd_s_hPoTfKakiWU0dxmaohO4wdAclGDE-zshajsX-EGg6g8-vYKv_uqtPU> > wrote: Krishen <jyotirved </post?postID=0nSNId0Hg-1grV4PHGvp dd_s_hPoTfKakiWU0dxmaohO4wdAclGDE-zshajsX-EGg6g8-vYKv_uqtPU> > [VRI] Fwd: [ind. & West. Astrology] Fw: Re: Dating of Ramayana Period vedic_research_institute </post?postID=aERAvm_y4g0n-AkWHTne 9U6ptt9QYSExakPHvLCAWTHsZteMAcV84tAhF92-nB3gSBK8BWY4-XU-kLASWGhIbshCt2g3xF8T ICj6ii2906Nq> Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:20 AM  Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! <It seems Mr. Krishen did not read my earlier mail explaining the ramifications of projecting Lord Rama as God in the Balakanda, either by Valmiki himself or.subsequently by another sage.> My simple question was---and still is----that if Bhagwan Ram was destined to rule for eleven thousand years as per 97th mantra of the very first sarga of Balakanda and if He did rule for eleven thousand years as per shlokas 12 to 14 of almost the last sarga i.e. 104 of Uttarakanda i.e. the last Kanda of the Valmiki Ramayana itself, how could Bhagwan Ram have incarnated on December 4, 7323 BCE, as per Dr. Vartak, with whom Shri Bhattacharjya also agrees. Shri Bhattacharjya must certainly ponder on the " ramifications " of his self-contradictory statements, since it means that we are still living in Rama Rajya and Kali yuga is still away by millions of years according to Messrs Vartak and Bhattacharjya! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul vedic_research_ institute, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Dear friends, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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