A few tips for judging career - About Vargottama ???

[Guest guest]

Rohini Ji and Group,

 

In my study there are two points to ponder - Vargottama Lagna and

Vargottama Graha, The terminology suggests a time came in vedic

astrology where Janma (Birth) Lagna as an entity is equated to other

Grahas, Lagna means appropriate point of time at appropriate point on

earth.

 

I believe, Lagna requires more studies from Jyotishis as only Lagna

links " Prithvi " (Earth) to other 9 grahas.

 

Vargottam is a point of intrinsic richness, good or bad whatever

qualities a graha or lagna is given on occupation of a sign will be

fully displayed, Let's take an example, Vrisabh Lagna's best qualities

are displayed if lagna is Vargottama, Navamsa also shows support or

favour, everything that comes under notion of " luck " , How we understand

it, As such natives are rich in terms of intrinsic qualities, they are

perceived mightier by others.

 

But if native's janma rashi and navamsa lagna are contrary to each

other, a native will show contradictory qualities in his persona,

therefore will not be perceived very impressive and people may ignore

him, may not give clear picture of his presence.

 

Like the cases of Vrisabha Lagna and Kanya Navamsa or similar.

 

Graha's Vargottama should also be understood in similar manner, A graha

placed in inimical rashi if vargottama also, means worst or weakest

persona.

 

Making hype of Vargottam Lagna or Graha without considering status

(Uchha, Neecha, Sva, Shatru or Mitra) of placement is misleading.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Utkal_ji,

>

> Many things and questions in your posting.

>

> Vargottam, in my view and according to my understanding, if I may.

>

> Vargottam is described as being a swagrahi planet. When a planet is in

the same sign in rashi varga or kshetra varga and navamsha varga, then

it is deemed to be vargottama and equivalent to being in its own sign or

KSHETRA!

>

> I naturally took that to mean as a planet that is at ease, at home!

>

> At 'home' is where we humans are most at ease -- no matter whether the

home is large or small, or whatever. AS long as it feels like HOME!

>

> A vargottama planet is about an opportunity in the lifetime of a soul

that is experiencing itself through being human

(physical+mental+spiritual).

>

> It is not about a neecha vargottama suddenly losing its karmic purpose

and becoming powerful or an uchchaa vargottama becoming super powerful!

>

> Vargottama in my view is simply about being itself, being transparent,

about being and expressing whatever the nascent attributes and

characteristics of the vargottama planet is all about!

>

> I will leave it there for you to explore ...!

>

> RR_,

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ji,

> >

> > Your message to read life minutely is much appreciated, it's a need

of the hour. Everybody who likes jyotish should learn life first and

relate astro readings to his study of life.

> >

> > I wonder why people use the term like " Vargottama Lagna " in

analyzing a case, What does Vargottama Lagna means ? answer w'd bring us

close to study of life through jyotish, unlesss this happens, such a

quotation is only an eye wash.

> >

> > Rohini Ji, how you interprrete a Vargttama lagna in real life

display.

> >

> > Well,Group's astrologers are not very wrong, they underscored

" fame " , but what's missed is, Moon in 10'th makes a person amicable in

work place, one need not be famous by quality of the work delivered,

This good humoured friendly nature w'd unquestionably be there,

sometimes native may like to go for teaching kids as a means of service

or charity, this trait is given by Jup+Moon conjunction.

> >

> >

> > Why native faces difficulties in profession is because 10'th lord

Saturn is in conjunction with Ketu, When 10'th lord goes to 9'th, one

makes luck by work, in this case, Ketu's conjunction puts obstacle in

quality delivery, further, Mars is aspecting this Sat + Ketu

combination.Debilitated mars in 3rd shows need of more will power, here,

Jyotish can help the native,this is the core problem.

> >

> > 3rd lord in 10'th gives temperamental or attitude issues in work,

but, 3rd lord is moon therefore attitude issue w'd not be there.

> >

> > Despite everything native has a pleasant nature and a good looking

chubby - flabby physic, a bit obesity.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > KS_jee,

> > >

> > > My answers as best I know appended below in curly brackets {}

> > >

> > > - The native should be quite famous in his area of work {Sadly,

NO!}

> > > - He/She works in a highly competative environment {SHE! And --

Sadly, NO!}

> > > - Could be involved with music/singing/media {NO, as far as I

know!}

> > > - Might have had a relationship with some one who is much younger

to or very

> > > elderly to the native {YES! But not in the sense of it being a

romantic one in

> > > the conventional sense, as far as the obviously very private

information that

> > > has been shared with me!}.

> > >

> > >

> > > Please understand -- I am not critiquing anyone on this thread but

we all seem

> > > to possess this tendency (I lead the procession!) that we begin to

focus on a

> > > question and then go all over diagonally into other areas and we

do that also

> > > with real-time queries and we say fifteen things about a horoscope

and five of

> > > them hit the bull's eyes, even if the five have NOTHING to do with

the original

> > > question (the occupation of the individual, in this case, for

instance!).

> > >

> > > And THAT actually proves my point to some extent, not necessarily

the motivation

> > > for this thread but in general!

> > >

> > > Third party postings such as this one would NEVER get you the full

answer or

> > > ability to explore!

> > >

> > > You would say a few things, some verified as wrong, a few as, " I

don't know! "

> > > and one or two UNCANNILY ACCURATE!

> > >

> > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU IN YOUR JYOTISH JOURNEY?

> > >

> > > HENCE, I keep hammering upon all, till they get SICK OF ME, that

please stop

> > > this third party SECOND-GUESSING! PLEASE begin interacting

directly with

> > > nativities and then you are one step-closer to direct answers,

often immediate

> > > and way more gratifying.

> > >

> > > Your CLEVERNESS and 'being in tune' shall lie in your picking the

right ones

> > > that would respond! And who shall enhance your learning through

immediate and

> > > detailed feedback!

> > >

> > > Some of us would never have learned to love astrology as much as

we do, had we

> > > picked the wrong ones consistently -- the ones who do not provide

feedback or

> > > have axes to grind!

> > >

> > > I do have a few pointers that landed during my observations that

can be taken as

> > > WARNING FLAGS etc. Perhaps someday, I shall share (This is not a

'COME HITHER'

> > > AGENDA!) -- just letting you all know that it is possible to some

extent and so

> > > please pay attention!

> > >

> > > Good Luck! To each his/her own experience!!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Just to add my perspective on this:

> > > >

> > > > - The native should be quite famous in his area of work

> > > > - He/She works in a highly competative environment

> > > > - Could be involved with music/singing/media

> > > > - Might have had a relationship with some one who is much

younger to or very elderly to the native

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > astroimran <astroimran@>

> > > >

> > > > Tue, 24 November, 2009 8:28:47 PM

> > > > Re: A few tips for judging career

<<???>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry Rohiniranjan,

> > > >

> > > > I presume, you must misunderstood my reply. Referring Taurus

lagna and Aquarius Moon did not mean that they are solely responsible

for making a native writer or researcher. I was just referring the

native, since I don't know who the person is. Let me explain, what I

inferred in my last message.

> > > >

> > > > Native: Unknown

> > > > 28 January 1963

> > > > Time: 12:15 PM EST

> > > > Place: Boston, MA, USA

> > > >

> > > > Question: Find out profession.

> > > >

> > > > Varottam Taurus is rising while lord of lagna Venus is sitting

in 7th house. Three benefic planets are tenanting in kendra. Native

should be fortunate, pleasing, long lived, healthy and prominent in

community/social circle. The matter of fame is further supported by

association of Jupiter+Moon with arudha lagna (AL) and gati lagna (GL).

Ascendant and Moon in fixed signs render the native firm minded and

prudent. It is not easy to convince her without sound argument.

Exaltation of both lagna lord and Moon in navamsa is indeed a rare

signature. She is bestowed with excellence of mental and physical

capabilities, besides having refined aesthetic sense. One born on

Monday, having exalted Moon in navamsa also possesses very fertile

imagination and highly sensitive. Moon with Jupiter is simultaneously

forming a powerful gaja-kesari yoga. In 10th, this combination shows

prominence, social respect and honour. But Moon is the lord of 3rd and

Jupiter is of 8th and

> > > > 11th. Both are functional malefic for Taurus ascendant. Due to

this flaw gaja kesari does not ensure much monetary benefit and

unparalleled fame. However, it yields knowledge, wisdom and keen

intellect to understand hidden aspect and best suited to research

oriented fields. Mercury is vidya karaka. In rasi and navamsa, it is

tenanting the sign of Guru and Guru is into Aquarius and aspectig the

2nd and 4th houses (note the 2nd house shows ones learning inclinations

and 4th house indicates formal schooling). So subjects related to

Jupiter, i.e. sacred sciences, metaphysics, law and medicine may be of

her interest. Well, lord of 5th (Mercury) aspects 2nd besides Jupiter's

aspect to 2nd is a yoga for understanding astrology. Afflicted Mars and

natural malefic planets in 3rd-9th without shubh drishti reveal, either

she is the youngest among coborn or her sis/bro parted now. Native may

also not very happy with her spouse.

> > > >

> > > > Again come to the query of profession which may be related to

writing, preaching, or research. First take karma karaka Saturn. It is

strongly occupied in 9th as 9th lord. Natives of Capricorn Saturn are

dutiful, calculated and persistent. Saturn in mithunamsa inclines one

towards work related to Mercury. In dasamsa (D10), 10th lord Saturn is

in Pisces and aspected by Jupiter and Mercury ®. Whereas karmapada

(A10) is into Gemini. Again, this indicates work related to Mercury and

Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > However in rasi, Saturn is influenced by four other planets,

viz.; Sun, Ketu, Mars ® and Rahu. By influence I mean here, standard

graha drishti and yuti. Connection of these planets over Saturn suggests

initial struggle, aimlessness and even opposition, up to first Saturn

return (1991-92). However, relative kona (5-9) and dwirdwadasa (2-12)

from karaka should also analyze. Here no planet is in trine to karma

karaka Saturn but Jupiter+Moon is ahead and Mercury ® is behind

Saturn. This shubh-kartari yoga indicates luck and financial autonomy

knocked her door during second phase of life.

> > > >

> > > > Lets move to karmasthana (10th house). Jupiter and Moon are

occupying here. No other planets aspects 10th, but Mercury is slightly

influencing 10th and (their occupants) through labha argala. However,

influence of Mercury is more due to Jupiter; since later is a sole

dispositor of former. We've already seen that Mercury is also the

navamsa-dispositor of karma karaka Saturn. Thus native should adopt

career related to Mercury, viz. communication, internet, teaching,

preaching, writing, research etc.

> > > >

> > > > Rightnow I'm posting this reply from my office desk and above is

what I could explain with my little understanding. Don't know how right

or wrong this analysis is.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > M. Imran

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > HI Imran,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was not sharing the information as a challenge but given the

rather strong and definitive sounding (and scholarly, if I may add)

posting of yours, I was hoping that you would utilize this as an

opportunity for showcasing and illustrating the principles and rules

that you described in your posting.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, given the taurus lagna and aquarius moon, the person must

be one or more of the possibilities: writer, researcher, fond of

classical knowledge and metaphysics.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I am not understanding clearly why those two factors

should lead to the conclusion that you have arrived at. Again, my

intention is not to ambush you or anything like that but offer an

opportunity to illustrate the theoretical factors described earlier by

you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please elaborate a bit more in details so that the purpose of

your original posting appearning in several places is more fully served.

It will be of great interest to all readers, beginner and beyond.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although you are using 2 factors, is it the 10th house

association of the moon in this chart or 10th house placement of the

lord of 3rd that is being chosen by you as the decisive factor? Or is

there mercury and jupiter etc 'between the lines' that are involved as

well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I realize that you may not have the time or interest to

elaborate, but since you spent so much time in creating and sharing your

original posting, you may wish to illustrate that with this chart and

this will then get fixed in your readers' minds that much better.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you see it that way as well. I will wait for you to

write more, if you wish, and would rather not bias you with my comments

about the chart or the nativity, etc, at this time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " astroimran "

<astroimran@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your reply seemed different to me (as always). But I was not

expecting such a surprising and challenging quiz. Anyway, let me try.

Whether right or wrong, I would be without ifs and buts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the basis of given chart (Taurus lagna, Aquaius Moon),

the native may be a writer, researcher and fond of classical knowledge

and metaphysics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With regards,

> > > > > > M. Imran

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Imraan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good points and a great posting! Good to see you coming

out of your shell and challenging the 'status quo' ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now let us move to the pudding ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In your opinion, what should this person have done

career-wise in her life if stars were listened to...?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 28 January 1963

> > > > > > > 12:15 PM EST

> > > > > > > Boston, MA, USA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Utkal,

 

I agree with the points you have raised :-)

Vargottama has been of interest to me too and I have written about it in one of

my primers in the chapter on navamsha.

 

What you see or describe as " richness " , I had seen and escribed that as

" transparence " . The metaphor that came to my mind was like a polarizing filter

used in photography! This filter is utilized by photographers to get rid of

distracting reflections and defractions and allows them to shoot pictures of

water surfaces sans reflections and skies with a higher contrast to render the

clouds more prominent! When the two elements are set just right only one phase

of the light waves are allowed to enter and the image is purer and brighter with

less " noise " !

 

As I described in my writing, the vargottama navamshas have a distinct pattern

based on the triplicity scheme of classification. And in the vargottama 'window'

the V1, V9 are blessed by V3! Hence the saatwik (transparent) nature of the

'image'!

 

RR_,

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

>

> Rohini Ji and Group,

>

> In my study there are two points to ponder - Vargottama Lagna and

> Vargottama Graha, The terminology suggests a time came in vedic

> astrology where Janma (Birth) Lagna as an entity is equated to other

> Grahas, Lagna means appropriate point of time at appropriate point on

> earth.

>

> I believe, Lagna requires more studies from Jyotishis as only Lagna

> links " Prithvi " (Earth) to other 9 grahas.

>

> Vargottam is a point of intrinsic richness, good or bad whatever

> qualities a graha or lagna is given on occupation of a sign will be

> fully displayed, Let's take an example, Vrisabh Lagna's best qualities

> are displayed if lagna is Vargottama, Navamsa also shows support or

> favour, everything that comes under notion of " luck " , How we understand

> it, As such natives are rich in terms of intrinsic qualities, they are

> perceived mightier by others.

>

> But if native's janma rashi and navamsa lagna are contrary to each

> other, a native will show contradictory qualities in his persona,

> therefore will not be perceived very impressive and people may ignore

> him, may not give clear picture of his presence.

>

> Like the cases of Vrisabha Lagna and Kanya Navamsa or similar.

>

> Graha's Vargottama should also be understood in similar manner, A graha

> placed in inimical rashi if vargottama also, means worst or weakest

> persona.

>

> Making hype of Vargottam Lagna or Graha without considering status

> (Uchha, Neecha, Sva, Shatru or Mitra) of placement is misleading.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

>

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utkal_ji,

> >

> > Many things and questions in your posting.

> >

> > Vargottam, in my view and according to my understanding, if I may.

> >

> > Vargottam is described as being a swagrahi planet. When a planet is in

> the same sign in rashi varga or kshetra varga and navamsha varga, then

> it is deemed to be vargottama and equivalent to being in its own sign or

> KSHETRA!

> >

> > I naturally took that to mean as a planet that is at ease, at home!

> >

> > At 'home' is where we humans are most at ease -- no matter whether the

> home is large or small, or whatever. AS long as it feels like HOME!

> >

> > A vargottama planet is about an opportunity in the lifetime of a soul

> that is experiencing itself through being human

> (physical+mental+spiritual).

> >

> > It is not about a neecha vargottama suddenly losing its karmic purpose

> and becoming powerful or an uchchaa vargottama becoming super powerful!

> >

> > Vargottama in my view is simply about being itself, being transparent,

> about being and expressing whatever the nascent attributes and

> characteristics of the vargottama planet is all about!

> >

> > I will leave it there for you to explore ...!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > >

> > > Your message to read life minutely is much appreciated, it's a need

> of the hour. Everybody who likes jyotish should learn life first and

> relate astro readings to his study of life.

> > >

> > > I wonder why people use the term like " Vargottama Lagna " in

> analyzing a case, What does Vargottama Lagna means ? answer w'd bring us

> close to study of life through jyotish, unlesss this happens, such a

> quotation is only an eye wash.

> > >

> > > Rohini Ji, how you interprrete a Vargttama lagna in real life

> display.

> > >

> > > Well,Group's astrologers are not very wrong, they underscored

> " fame " , but what's missed is, Moon in 10'th makes a person amicable in

> work place, one need not be famous by quality of the work delivered,

> This good humoured friendly nature w'd unquestionably be there,

> sometimes native may like to go for teaching kids as a means of service

> or charity, this trait is given by Jup+Moon conjunction.

> > >

> > >

> > > Why native faces difficulties in profession is because 10'th lord

> Saturn is in conjunction with Ketu, When 10'th lord goes to 9'th, one

> makes luck by work, in this case, Ketu's conjunction puts obstacle in

> quality delivery, further, Mars is aspecting this Sat + Ketu

> combination.Debilitated mars in 3rd shows need of more will power, here,

> Jyotish can help the native,this is the core problem.

> > >

> > > 3rd lord in 10'th gives temperamental or attitude issues in work,

> but, 3rd lord is moon therefore attitude issue w'd not be there.

> > >

> > > Despite everything native has a pleasant nature and a good looking

> chubby - flabby physic, a bit obesity.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > KS_jee,

> > > >

> > > > My answers as best I know appended below in curly brackets {}

> > > >

> > > > - The native should be quite famous in his area of work {Sadly,

> NO!}

> > > > - He/She works in a highly competative environment {SHE! And --

> Sadly, NO!}

> > > > - Could be involved with music/singing/media {NO, as far as I

> know!}

> > > > - Might have had a relationship with some one who is much younger

> to or very

> > > > elderly to the native {YES! But not in the sense of it being a

> romantic one in

> > > > the conventional sense, as far as the obviously very private

> information that

> > > > has been shared with me!}.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Please understand -- I am not critiquing anyone on this thread but

> we all seem

> > > > to possess this tendency (I lead the procession!) that we begin to

> focus on a

> > > > question and then go all over diagonally into other areas and we

> do that also

> > > > with real-time queries and we say fifteen things about a horoscope

> and five of

> > > > them hit the bull's eyes, even if the five have NOTHING to do with

> the original

> > > > question (the occupation of the individual, in this case, for

> instance!).

> > > >

> > > > And THAT actually proves my point to some extent, not necessarily

> the motivation

> > > > for this thread but in general!

> > > >

> > > > Third party postings such as this one would NEVER get you the full

> answer or

> > > > ability to explore!

> > > >

> > > > You would say a few things, some verified as wrong, a few as, " I

> don't know! "

> > > > and one or two UNCANNILY ACCURATE!

> > > >

> > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU IN YOUR JYOTISH JOURNEY?

> > > >

> > > > HENCE, I keep hammering upon all, till they get SICK OF ME, that

> please stop

> > > > this third party SECOND-GUESSING! PLEASE begin interacting

> directly with

> > > > nativities and then you are one step-closer to direct answers,

> often immediate

> > > > and way more gratifying.

> > > >

> > > > Your CLEVERNESS and 'being in tune' shall lie in your picking the

> right ones

> > > > that would respond! And who shall enhance your learning through

> immediate and

> > > > detailed feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Some of us would never have learned to love astrology as much as

> we do, had we

> > > > picked the wrong ones consistently -- the ones who do not provide

> feedback or

> > > > have axes to grind!

> > > >

> > > > I do have a few pointers that landed during my observations that

> can be taken as

> > > > WARNING FLAGS etc. Perhaps someday, I shall share (This is not a

> 'COME HITHER'

> > > > AGENDA!) -- just letting you all know that it is possible to some

> extent and so

> > > > please pay attention!

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck! To each his/her own experience!!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Just to add my perspective on this:

> > > > >

> > > > > - The native should be quite famous in his area of work

> > > > > - He/She works in a highly competative environment

> > > > > - Could be involved with music/singing/media

> > > > > - Might have had a relationship with some one who is much

> younger to or very elderly to the native

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > astroimran <astroimran@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, 24 November, 2009 8:28:47 PM

> > > > > Re: A few tips for judging career

> <<???>>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry Rohiniranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > I presume, you must misunderstood my reply. Referring Taurus

> lagna and Aquarius Moon did not mean that they are solely responsible

> for making a native writer or researcher. I was just referring the

> native, since I don't know who the person is. Let me explain, what I

> inferred in my last message.

> > > > >

> > > > > Native: Unknown

> > > > > 28 January 1963

> > > > > Time: 12:15 PM EST

> > > > > Place: Boston, MA, USA

> > > > >

> > > > > Question: Find out profession.

> > > > >

> > > > > Varottam Taurus is rising while lord of lagna Venus is sitting

> in 7th house. Three benefic planets are tenanting in kendra. Native

> should be fortunate, pleasing, long lived, healthy and prominent in

> community/social circle. The matter of fame is further supported by

> association of Jupiter+Moon with arudha lagna (AL) and gati lagna (GL).

> Ascendant and Moon in fixed signs render the native firm minded and

> prudent. It is not easy to convince her without sound argument.

> Exaltation of both lagna lord and Moon in navamsa is indeed a rare

> signature. She is bestowed with excellence of mental and physical

> capabilities, besides having refined aesthetic sense. One born on

> Monday, having exalted Moon in navamsa also possesses very fertile

> imagination and highly sensitive. Moon with Jupiter is simultaneously

> forming a powerful gaja-kesari yoga. In 10th, this combination shows

> prominence, social respect and honour. But Moon is the lord of 3rd and

> Jupiter is of 8th and

> > > > > 11th. Both are functional malefic for Taurus ascendant. Due to

> this flaw gaja kesari does not ensure much monetary benefit and

> unparalleled fame. However, it yields knowledge, wisdom and keen

> intellect to understand hidden aspect and best suited to research

> oriented fields. Mercury is vidya karaka. In rasi and navamsa, it is

> tenanting the sign of Guru and Guru is into Aquarius and aspectig the

> 2nd and 4th houses (note the 2nd house shows ones learning inclinations

> and 4th house indicates formal schooling). So subjects related to

> Jupiter, i.e. sacred sciences, metaphysics, law and medicine may be of

> her interest. Well, lord of 5th (Mercury) aspects 2nd besides Jupiter's

> aspect to 2nd is a yoga for understanding astrology. Afflicted Mars and

> natural malefic planets in 3rd-9th without shubh drishti reveal, either

> she is the youngest among coborn or her sis/bro parted now. Native may

> also not very happy with her spouse.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again come to the query of profession which may be related to

> writing, preaching, or research. First take karma karaka Saturn. It is

> strongly occupied in 9th as 9th lord. Natives of Capricorn Saturn are

> dutiful, calculated and persistent. Saturn in mithunamsa inclines one

> towards work related to Mercury. In dasamsa (D10), 10th lord Saturn is

> in Pisces and aspected by Jupiter and Mercury ®. Whereas karmapada

> (A10) is into Gemini. Again, this indicates work related to Mercury and

> Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > However in rasi, Saturn is influenced by four other planets,

> viz.; Sun, Ketu, Mars ® and Rahu. By influence I mean here, standard

> graha drishti and yuti. Connection of these planets over Saturn suggests

> initial struggle, aimlessness and even opposition, up to first Saturn

> return (1991-92). However, relative kona (5-9) and dwirdwadasa (2-12)

> from karaka should also analyze. Here no planet is in trine to karma

> karaka Saturn but Jupiter+Moon is ahead and Mercury ® is behind

> Saturn. This shubh-kartari yoga indicates luck and financial autonomy

> knocked her door during second phase of life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lets move to karmasthana (10th house). Jupiter and Moon are

> occupying here. No other planets aspects 10th, but Mercury is slightly

> influencing 10th and (their occupants) through labha argala. However,

> influence of Mercury is more due to Jupiter; since later is a sole

> dispositor of former. We've already seen that Mercury is also the

> navamsa-dispositor of karma karaka Saturn. Thus native should adopt

> career related to Mercury, viz. communication, internet, teaching,

> preaching, writing, research etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rightnow I'm posting this reply from my office desk and above is

> what I could explain with my little understanding. Don't know how right

> or wrong this analysis is.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > M. Imran

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HI Imran,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was not sharing the information as a challenge but given the

> rather strong and definitive sounding (and scholarly, if I may add)

> posting of yours, I was hoping that you would utilize this as an

> opportunity for showcasing and illustrating the principles and rules

> that you described in your posting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, given the taurus lagna and aquarius moon, the person must

> be one or more of the possibilities: writer, researcher, fond of

> classical knowledge and metaphysics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I am not understanding clearly why those two factors

> should lead to the conclusion that you have arrived at. Again, my

> intention is not to ambush you or anything like that but offer an

> opportunity to illustrate the theoretical factors described earlier by

> you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please elaborate a bit more in details so that the purpose of

> your original posting appearning in several places is more fully served.

> It will be of great interest to all readers, beginner and beyond.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although you are using 2 factors, is it the 10th house

> association of the moon in this chart or 10th house placement of the

> lord of 3rd that is being chosen by you as the decisive factor? Or is

> there mercury and jupiter etc 'between the lines' that are involved as

> well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I realize that you may not have the time or interest to

> elaborate, but since you spent so much time in creating and sharing your

> original posting, you may wish to illustrate that with this chart and

> this will then get fixed in your readers' minds that much better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope you see it that way as well. I will wait for you to

> write more, if you wish, and would rather not bias you with my comments

> about the chart or the nativity, etc, at this time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " astroimran "

> <astroimran@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your reply seemed different to me (as always). But I was not

> expecting such a surprising and challenging quiz. Anyway, let me try.

> Whether right or wrong, I would be without ifs and buts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the basis of given chart (Taurus lagna, Aquaius Moon),

> the native may be a writer, researcher and fond of classical knowledge

> and metaphysics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With regards,

> > > > > > > M. Imran

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Imraan,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Good points and a great posting! Good to see you coming

> out of your shell and challenging the 'status quo' ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now let us move to the pudding ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In your opinion, what should this person have done

> career-wise in her life if stars were listened to...?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 28 January 1963

> > > > > > > > 12:15 PM EST

> > > > > > > > Boston, MA, USA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >