Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Dear Marg and All,  I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- I've found these ones:  -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong  I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations.  Regards, Anna   --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM  India is full of hidden " gems " ! , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > Regards, > Utkal > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > Thanks:-) > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Anna, This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. Regards, Rohiniranjan , sar108 <bona_mente wrote: > > > Dear Marg and All, >  > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > I've found these ones: >  > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong >  > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. >  > Regards, > Anna > >  >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > >  > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > Regards, > > Utkal > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Rohiniranjan,  I use PL6- calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. I can give you data, anyway July 11, 1976 TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ UL/no explanation Lo 20E30 La 44N50 -1h /E/  I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much.  Regards, Anna  --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM  Hi Anna, This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. Regards, Rohiniranjan , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Marg and All, >  > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > I've found these ones: >  > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong >  > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. >  > Regards, > Anna > >  >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > >  > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > Regards, > > Utkal > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Thanks! Would I be able to get the name of the place of birth, Anna? City, Country -- etc? RR , sar108 <bona_mente wrote: > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, >  > I use PL6- > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > I can give you data, anyway > July 11, 1976 > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > UL/no explanation > Lo 20E30 > La 44N50 > -1h /E/ >  > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. >  > Regards, > Anna >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > >  > > > > Hi Anna, > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > >  > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > I've found these ones: > >  > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > >  > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > > > >  > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Sure, City: Belgrade, Country: Serbia Etc:? What else?  Anna --- On Fri, 12/4/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:10 AM  Thanks! Would I be able to get the name of the place of birth, Anna? City, Country -- etc? RR , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, >  > I use PL6- > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > I can give you data, anyway > July 11, 1976 > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > UL/no explanation > Lo 20E30 > La 44N50 > -1h /E/ >  > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. >  > Regards, > Anna >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > >  > > > > Hi Anna, > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > >  > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > I've found these ones: > >  > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > >  > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > > > >  > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Thanks Anna! I will try to work with your data in the next few days and report back. RR , sar108 <bona_mente wrote: > > > > Sure, > City: Belgrade, > Country: Serbia > Etc:? What else? >  > Anna > > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:10 AM > > >  > > > > Thanks! > > Would I be able to get the name of the place of birth, Anna? City, Country -- etc? > > RR > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, > >  > > I use PL6- > > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > > I can give you data, anyway > > July 11, 1976 > > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > > UL/no explanation > > Lo 20E30 > > La 44N50 > > -1h /E/ > >  > > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Hi Anna, > > > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > > >  > > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > > I've found these ones: > > >  > > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > > >  > > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > > >  > > > Regards, > > > Anna > > > > > >  > > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cÃÆ'¶njunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Anna Welcome back! I guess you are talking about the errors in calc of the PL series? I had to trawl my memory for which questions you were answering<grin> Thanks hope you had a good break and come back refreshed M - sar108 Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:28 PM Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? Dear Marg and All, I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- I've found these ones: -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. Regards, Anna --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM India is full of hidden " gems " ! , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > Regards, > Utkal > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > Thanks:-) > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi Anna I have to say I do warn people looking for jyotish programmes about the errors in calculations in PL series. A complete beginner could seriously be misled if they don't have basics in calculations manually to double check what the screen is showing. I still have my Time Zone changes book beside me to double check daylight savings and other time changes when setting up a chart. I also double check the yogas and avashthas in the books menu as these are often wrong, though I suspect these would be difficult for any computer to fully calculate anyway. Computers aren't as good as the human brain, in spite of what computer scientists would have us believe....which is probably why they can't decode climate change with them!! I'm surprise that PL series is the only prog I have bought which doesn't give updates with corrections, as other supremely excellent programmes I have, give out automatic updates each time an error is debugged. In the past when I did find errors and report them they did send mini add ons for my programme, but I don't think these were offered universally? M cheers M - sar108 Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 AM Re: Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? Hi Rohiniranjan, I use PL6- calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. I can give you data, anyway July 11, 1976 TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ UL/no explanation Lo 20E30 La 44N50 -1h /E/ I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. Regards, Anna --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM Hi Anna, This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. Regards, Rohiniranjan , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Marg and All, >  > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > I've found these ones: >  > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong >  > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. >  > Regards, > Anna > >  >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > >  > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > Regards, > > Utkal > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I am obviously not a Geovision Rep, but in the past (up until) version 6.1, Geovision had been providing updates from their 'download' page. It asked the account number to weed out pirated copies and installed the patches. But, if they have been handing out patches for the asking, as they did in your case, that is not a good idea, for sure. They also had a manual at one time, long ago which contained the yoga codes so that users could create their own yogas and readings by updating the user.txt file. And yes, the atlas and time change had been a major inconvenience for years. Earlier versions had customizable Atlas files but now it is all proprietary and does pose problems due to multiple entries and so on. On top of that, in North America, different regions are changing the DST/ST on different dates, and users must be extremely watchful about checking that in recent births. I personally think that there has always been a rather limited market for jyotish software and rather than so many programmers whittling away their own little statue, they should have formed a consortium and joined forces and shared the profits, and reduced the redundancy of actions such as independent updates and so on, etc. Given that most if not all of them are coming from spiritual and monastic backgrounds and less worldly than let us say the Microsoft programmers, they perhaps did have the possibility of doing so. Anyhoo...! RR_, , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Anna > I have to say I do warn people looking for jyotish programmes about the errors in calculations in PL series. > A complete beginner could seriously be misled if they don't have basics in calculations manually to double check what the screen is showing. I still have my Time Zone changes book beside me to double check daylight savings and other time changes when setting up a chart. > > I also double check the yogas and avashthas in the books menu as these are often wrong, though I suspect these would be difficult for any computer to fully calculate anyway. Computers aren't as good as the human brain, in spite of what computer scientists would have us believe....which is probably why they can't decode climate change with them!! > > I'm surprise that PL series is the only prog I have bought which doesn't give updates with corrections, as other supremely excellent programmes I have, give out automatic updates each time an error is debugged. In the past when I did find errors and report them they did send mini add ons for my programme, but I don't think these were offered universally? > M > > cheers > M > > > > > - > sar108 > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 AM > Re: Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, > > I use PL6- > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > I can give you data, anyway > July 11, 1976 > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > UL/no explanation > Lo 20E30 > La 44N50 > -1h /E/ > > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. > > Regards, > Anna > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > > > Hi Anna, > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > >  > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > I've found these ones: > >  > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > >  > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > > > >  > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Hi Anna. I use version 7 and the data you gave gives Arudha in aquarius and Upapada lagna in the 3rd house. It is based on two 'mainstream' assumptions that PL uses: When the pada falls in the 10th from the house in question, it is moved to the 10th therefrom, as has been the case for the two indicators. That is not an 'error'. Are you getting a different sign for UL and AL in your version? PL does not use the nodal secondary/alternative rulerships for scorpio and aquarius and that would probably be the case for what the mainstream follows. That is not an 'error'. WHEW! You had me worried for a second there ;-) RR_, , sar108 <bona_mente wrote: > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, >  > I use PL6- > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > I can give you data, anyway > July 11, 1976 > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > UL/no explanation > Lo 20E30 > La 44N50 > -1h /E/ >  > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. >  > Regards, > Anna >  > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > >  > > > > Hi Anna, > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > >  > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > I've found these ones: > >  > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > >  > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > > > >  > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 A correction! It should have read, " When the pada falls in the 1st or 7th house .... " . Sorry about that, Anna! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Hi Anna. > > I use version 7 and the data you gave gives Arudha in aquarius and Upapada lagna in the 3rd house. > > It is based on two 'mainstream' assumptions that PL uses: > > When the pada falls in the 10th from the house in question, it is moved to the 10th therefrom, as has been the case for the two indicators. That is not an 'error'. Are you getting a different sign for UL and AL in your version? > > PL does not use the nodal secondary/alternative rulerships for scorpio and aquarius and that would probably be the case for what the mainstream follows. That is not an 'error'. > > WHEW! You had me worried for a second there ;-) > > RR_, > > , sar108 <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, > >  > > I use PL6- > > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > > I can give you data, anyway > > July 11, 1976 > > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > > UL/no explanation > > Lo 20E30 > > La 44N50 > > -1h /E/ > >  > > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Hi Anna, > > > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > > >  > > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > > I've found these ones: > > >  > > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > > >  > > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > > >  > > > Regards, > > > Anna > > > > > >  > > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Regarding jyotisha programs, especially the so called nirayana ones, JHORA, latest version, by Shri P. V. R. Narasimha Rao, is the most accurate as on date as it is based on Swiss Ephemeris which is second in accuracy to data from JPL/NASA. Anybody can download it for free. It is highly informative, and may enable " Veedic astrologers " to erect a " nashta jataka " for Bhagwan Krishna also, since the period covered by the latest JHORA is from 5500 BCE to 3000 AD. It gives the choice of quite a few ayanamshas, including zero i.e. sayana. The earlier version, however, was miserably inaccurate from earlier dates. Those interested in so called Tropical system and secondary progressions etc., will, however, have to work with data from ASTRODIENST. Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul PS It is a request to Shri P V R Narasimha Rao that he should include Julian date also in the program so that one can compare the details with other programs more easily and conveniently. AKK , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Anna > I have to say I do warn people looking for jyotish programmes about the errors in calculations in PL series. > A complete beginner could seriously be misled if they don't have basics in calculations manually to double check what the screen is showing. I still have my Time Zone changes book beside me to double check daylight savings and other time changes when setting up a chart. > > I also double check the yogas and avashthas in the books menu as these are often wrong, though I suspect these would be difficult for any computer to fully calculate anyway. Computers aren't as good as the human brain, in spite of what computer scientists would have us believe....which is probably why they can't decode climate change with them!! > > I'm surprise that PL series is the only prog I have bought which doesn't give updates with corrections, as other supremely excellent programmes I have, give out automatic updates each time an error is debugged. In the past when I did find errors and report them they did send mini add ons for my programme, but I don't think these were offered universally? > M > > cheers > M > > > > > - > sar108 > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 AM > Re: Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, > > I use PL6- > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > I can give you data, anyway > July 11, 1976 > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > UL/no explanation > Lo 20E30 > La 44N50 > -1h /E/ > > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I trust and rely on JH didn't care much. > > Regards, > Anna > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > > > Hi Anna, > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to them with details so that they can verify. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > >  > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to europe- I may have missed some answers- > > I've found these ones: > >  > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > >  > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > >  > > Regards, > > Anna > > > >  > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 What is " veedic? " :-? Rohiniranjan , " Krishen " <jyotirved wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > Regarding jyotisha programs, especially the so called nirayana ones, > JHORA, latest version, by Shri P. V. R. Narasimha Rao, is the most > accurate as on date as it is based on Swiss Ephemeris which is second in > accuracy to data from JPL/NASA. > > Anybody can download it for free. It is highly informative, and may > enable " Veedic astrologers " to erect a " nashta jataka " for Bhagwan > Krishna also, since the period covered by the latest JHORA is from 5500 > BCE to 3000 AD. It gives the choice of quite a few ayanamshas, > including zero i.e. sayana. The earlier version, however, was miserably > inaccurate from earlier dates. > > Those interested in so called Tropical system and secondary progressions > etc., will, however, have to work with data from ASTRODIENST. > > Jai Shri Ram! > > A K Kaul > > PS It is a request to Shri P V R Narasimha Rao that he should include > Julian date also in the program so that one can compare the details with > other programs more easily and conveniently. > > AKK > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi Anna > > I have to say I do warn people looking for jyotish programmes about > the errors in calculations in PL series. > > A complete beginner could seriously be misled if they don't have > basics in calculations manually to double check what the screen is > showing. I still have my Time Zone changes book beside me to double > check daylight savings and other time changes when setting up a chart. > > > > I also double check the yogas and avashthas in the books menu as these > are often wrong, though I suspect these would be difficult for any > computer to fully calculate anyway. Computers aren't as good as the > human brain, in spite of what computer scientists would have us > believe....which is probably why they can't decode climate change with > them!! > > > > I'm surprise that PL series is the only prog I have bought which > doesn't give updates with corrections, as other supremely excellent > programmes I have, give out automatic updates each time an error is > debugged. In the past when I did find errors and report them they did > send mini add ons for my programme, but I don't think these were offered > universally? > > M > > > > cheers > > M > > > > > > > > > > - > > sar108 > > > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 AM > > Re: Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohiniranjan, > > > > I use PL6- > > calc. errors I mentioned occur regularly. > > I can give you data, anyway > > July 11, 1976 > > TOB: 17:15 /AL- ketu as LL/ > > UL/no explanation > > Lo 20E30 > > La 44N50 > > -1h /E/ > > > > I've seen even more errors in PL6 /tajaka I believe/, but since I > trust and rely on JH didn't care much. > > > > Regards, > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > Re: ParasharaLight calculation errors? > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 6:43 PM > > > > > > > > Hi Anna, > > > > This is interesting! Can you give a bit more details about upapada, > giving a birthdata example, version of PL you are using etc. I would > like to duplicate that and report back if it is okay with you. > > > > I use PL but arudhas (G and P) being so easy to figure out, I do not > rely on the software to give me that information. But I will check if > you provide more information. You should perhaps also report back to > them with details so that they can verify. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Marg and All, > > >  > > > I came accross Marg's Q upon my return from the trip to > europe- I may have missed some answers- > > > I've found these ones: > > >  > > > -Aroodas- Upapada calculation- wrong > > > -Brama, Maheshwara, Rudra calc. wrong. > > > -Yogi, Duplicate Yogi, AvaYogi calc. wrong > > >  > > > I also trust JHora33 for correct calculations. > > >  > > > Regards, > > > Anna > > > > > >  > > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: ENIGMA or CONFUSION ... BPHS > > > > > > Received: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:05 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > India is full of hidden " gems " ! > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wd like to let you know that there is an exclusive extended > version of BPHS available, at least, a copy is available with Mr. R K > Baqaya, Former Chief Income Tax Commissioner, West Bengal, He is no > great admirer of Prof Rao and other biggies, Unlike them, he always did > accurate predictions applying basics of Parashara, I never saw him using > badhaka etc. in chart analysis , Vimshottari was jindabad for him. > > > > > > > > In the copy he got, chapters on results of vimshottari dasa for > Grahas in cönjunction are available, He said that Raman family > also got a copy of same version. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > > To refresh is all it takes! > > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/3 rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boloji. com/astro/ 00351.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear friends, Jai ShriRam! < " Veedic astrologers " > The typo is regretted. It should read " Vedic astrologers " . Dhanyavad. AKK , " Krishen " <jyotirved wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > Regarding jyotisha programs, especially the so called nirayana ones, > JHORA, latest version, by Shri P. V. R. Narasimha Rao, is the most > accurate as on date as it is based on Swiss Ephemeris which is second in > accuracy to data from JPL/NASA. > > Anybody can download it for free. It is highly informative, and may > enable " Veedic astrologers " to erect a " nashta jataka " for Bhagwan > Krishna also, since the period covered by the latest JHORA is from 5500 > BCE to 3000 AD. It gives the choice of quite a few ayanamshas, > including zero i.e. sayana. The earlier version, however, was miserably > inaccurate from earlier dates. > > Those interested in so called Tropical system and secondary progressions > etc., will, however, have to work with data from ASTRODIENST. > > Jai Shri Ram! > > A K Kaul > > PS It is a request to Shri P V R Narasimha Rao that he should include > Julian date also in the program so that one can compare the details with > other programs more easily and conveniently. > > AKK > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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