Mr Kaul and Others on Jyotish Origin and Nirayan/Sayan

December 4, 2009

Dear All Addressed,

In order to overcome the controversy, I have decided to study vedic

literature myself and unless I have true satisfection that I know vedic

sage's use of jyotish, I w'd like to not to be judgemental.

I have chosen Taitriya Samhita and Boudhayana Sutra.

Mr. Kaul, specifically for your knowledge, I have just found a paper of

Dr. Nemichandra Jain in which he mentioned a shloka of Boudhayan Sutra,

Shloka has names of rashis, he quoted names of 4-5 rashis (Mesha,

Vrishabha, Mithuna etc.. ) in that, If that shloka is truly available in

Boudhayana Sutra, Your claim that Indians borrowed rashi names from

Maya the Mleksha or Greeks stands false, other claim about Ayanamsa

being non vedic/indian also stands false.

Tomorrow, I m going to begin study of both Boudhayana Sutra and Taitriya

Samhita.

Rest Assured, I w'd get back to you and group.

regards,

Utkal.

December 6, 2009

Shri Utkal Panigrahiji,

Jai Shri Ram!

< Mr. Kaul, specifically for your knowledge, I have just found a paper

of Dr. Nemichandra Jain in which he mentioned a shloka of Boudhayan

Sutra, Shloka has names of rashis, he quoted names of 4-5 rashis

(Mesha, Vrishabha, Mithuna etc.. ) in that, If that shloka is truly

available in Boudhayana Sutra>

1. Pl. give the exact references of Boudhayana Sutra and also Taitiriya

Samhita.

2. What is the date of Baudhayana Sutra according to you?

3. Vrishaba is a Sanskrit equivalent of " Bull " and that word has

appeared in the Vedas literally hundreds of times. But you can rest

assured that it is not in the sense of Vrishabha Rashi even once. Same

is the casse with Mina etc. words.

Jai Shri Ram.

A K Kaul

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

> Dear All Addressed,

>

> In order to overcome the controversy, I have decided to study vedic

> literature myself and unless I have true satisfection that I know

vedic

> sage's use of jyotish, I w'd like to not to be judgemental.

>

> I have chosen Taitriya Samhita and Boudhayana Sutra.

>

> Mr. Kaul, specifically for your knowledge, I have just found a paper

of

> Dr. Nemichandra Jain in which he mentioned a shloka of Boudhayan

Sutra,

> Shloka has names of rashis, he quoted names of 4-5 rashis (Mesha,

> Vrishabha, Mithuna etc.. ) in that, If that shloka is truly available

in

> Boudhayana Sutra, Your claim that Indians borrowed rashi names from

> Maya the Mleksha or Greeks stands false, other claim about Ayanamsa

> being non vedic/indian also stands false.

>

> Tomorrow, I m going to begin study of both Boudhayana Sutra and

Taitriya

> Samhita.

>

> Rest Assured, I w'd get back to you and group.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

December 12, 2009

< What is the date of Baudhayana Sutra according to you? >

Third Millenia BCE.

BTW, what do you think ??

I would be happy if you will say, no it is wrong.

Kindly refute my point.

Theorems of geometry related to Circle, Square etc etc were already invented in

3'rd millenia BCE on Sapta Sindhu part during era of Shataptha Brahmna.

But now those are under the belt of westerners, like Pythagorean theorem is

under belt of Pythagoras, Menstruations theorems are under name of Euclid,

Calculus and Trigonometry were also invented in India only, Star lore in the

name of Ptolemy, Precession in the name of Hipparchus (though Precession is

already mentioned in Rig-Veda) , Helio Centric model in the name of

Copernicus(Though it was already known in the time of Rig-Vedic time), Earth

rotation of 24 hours under name of Gallileo(It was also known to Rig Vedic

person.

Now above thing are not in Vedic ppls name because Vedic Community of Middle

East were killed and converted by Muslims, Vedic Europeans (Lithuvian, German,

French, Italians, Spanish, Lativian, Romanian) were killed and converted by

Christians. Only India (Sri Lanka and Nepal also) left to fight for VEDIC

communities legacy but Indians had been battling with Muslim invasions for 1200

years after that Christians came and Max Muller Dog barked on us when he saw

that Rig Veda is like a hydrogen Bomb which will destroy the lies of Christians,

though he tried to malign us but now everything in front of all that earliest

verses of Rig Veda are of 7000 BCE but nobody can estimate age of its some

mandals as they said that they were learning to cook food and irrigation and

Mehargarh site of farming is of 8000 BCE atleast.

Only India left and other Southern countries were also converted by Muslim

religion.

Christians entered in Srilanka and Muslim entered to some other countries of

south Asia like Indonesia (It was country of Vanara Tribe Hanumanji but now it

is densely populated by Muslims), Cambodia, Malaysia etc etc....

Obama got the locket of Hanumanji from Indonesia itself which he put around his

neck during campaigning for presidential election.

Anyway leave that, you refute my point.

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

, " Krishen " <jyotirved wrote:

>

> Shri Utkal Panigrahiji,

>

> Jai Shri Ram!

>

> < Mr. Kaul, specifically for your knowledge, I have just found a paper

> of Dr. Nemichandra Jain in which he mentioned a shloka of Boudhayan

> Sutra, Shloka has names of rashis, he quoted names of 4-5 rashis

> (Mesha, Vrishabha, Mithuna etc.. ) in that, If that shloka is truly

> available in Boudhayana Sutra>

>

> 1. Pl. give the exact references of Boudhayana Sutra and also Taitiriya

> Samhita.

>

> 2. What is the date of Baudhayana Sutra according to you?

>

> 3. Vrishaba is a Sanskrit equivalent of " Bull " and that word has

> appeared in the Vedas literally hundreds of times. But you can rest

> assured that it is not in the sense of Vrishabha Rashi even once. Same

> is the casse with Mina etc. words.

>

> Jai Shri Ram.

>

> A K Kaul

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All Addressed,

> >

> > In order to overcome the controversy, I have decided to study vedic

> > literature myself and unless I have true satisfection that I know

> vedic

> > sage's use of jyotish, I w'd like to not to be judgemental.

> >

> > I have chosen Taitriya Samhita and Boudhayana Sutra.

> >

> > Mr. Kaul, specifically for your knowledge, I have just found a paper

> of

> > Dr. Nemichandra Jain in which he mentioned a shloka of Boudhayan

> Sutra,

> > Shloka has names of rashis, he quoted names of 4-5 rashis (Mesha,

> > Vrishabha, Mithuna etc.. ) in that, If that shloka is truly available

> in

> > Boudhayana Sutra, Your claim that Indians borrowed rashi names from

> > Maya the Mleksha or Greeks stands false, other claim about Ayanamsa

> > being non vedic/indian also stands false.

> >

> > Tomorrow, I m going to begin study of both Boudhayana Sutra and

> Taitriya

> > Samhita.

> >

> > Rest Assured, I w'd get back to you and group.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

>

December 13, 2009

Are " menstruations " also theorems? Tragically, only weaker sex have such

" theorems " .

AKK

, " prashant " <praspandey wrote:

>

> < What is the date of Baudhayana Sutra according to you? >

>

> Third Millenia BCE.

>

> BTW, what do you think ??

>

> I would be happy if you will say, no it is wrong.

>

> Kindly refute my point.

>

> Theorems of geometry related to Circle, Square etc etc were already invented

in 3'rd millenia BCE on Sapta Sindhu part during era of Shataptha Brahmna.

>

> But now those are under the belt of westerners, like Pythagorean theorem is