Guest guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! <Uttarayana is the period of six months of the northern course of the Sun. Uttarayana starts with the shortest day and continues till the longest day is reached. Calling the shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It should be called only as the starting day of the Uttarayana.> It appears Shri Bhattacdharjya has stopped using any panchanga at all in spite of being a jyotishi! Maybe he calculates horoscopes only through his parokshya knowledge or maybe even just by having a look at the skies! To put the records straight, however, this is what the Rashtriya Panchanga goes on repeating year after year on the Winter Solstie Day, " Uttarayana Divas/Day " . Similarly, on every Summer Solstice Day it goes on repeating, " Dakshinayana Day/Divas " . So Shri Bhattacharjya better brush up his knowledge of even the current panchangas before entering into discussions on technical points. <Any astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times of the Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana period at all.> Shri Bhattacharjya is correct that the Uttarayana Day did not fall in Makar Sanrkanti in about 3200 BCE, but that is just because there were no Mesha etc. rashis in India then! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear friends, > > So here is another untruth from Jyotirved: > > ////  1. As all the > siddhantas and Puranas tell us that the Uttarayana Day i.e. Winter Solstice is > the shortest day of year and that very day is known as Makar Sankranti, > would you call such a Makar Sankranti as sayana or nirayana and why?  /// > > Firstly Jyotirved does not know the meaning of Uttarayana. Uttarayana is the period of six months of the northern course of the Sun. Uttarayana starts with the shortest day and continues till the longest day is reached. Calling the shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It should be called only as the starting day of the Uttarayana. > > No Purana had called the starting day of the Uttarayana as the Makar Sankranti. Makar Sankranti is when there is Makar Sankramana, ie. when the Sun enters the Makar Rashi. The Makar Rashi is sidereal or Nirayana and it is as defined in the Vamana purana is from the the beginning of the second pada of the Uttarashadha Nakshatra to the end of the second pada of the Dhanishtha Nakshatra. Due to precession there was a time in the past when the Makar Sankranti and the starting day of the Uttarayana coincided.. Now a days the Makar Sankranti falls within the six months period of the Uttarayana. Any astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times of the Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana period at all. > > I am sure this will go over the head of Jyotirved as he does not have the capacity to understand this. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: > > jyotirved <jyotirved > [VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] Re: The Views of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet > vedic_research_institute > Cc: hinducalendar , , indiaarchaeology , " 'subash razdan' " <subashrazdan > Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:46 AM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Dear friends, Avtar Krishen Kaul quotes dictoionary ususally why then he fails to quote dictionary for Uttarayana now? He has not proved that the puranas were not available in those days --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote: Krishen <jyotirved [VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] Re: The Views of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet Sunday, December 6, 2009, 6:54 AM  Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! <Uttarayana is the period of six months of the northern course of the Sun. Uttarayana starts with the shortest day and continues till the longest day is reached. Calling the shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It should be called only as the starting day of the Uttarayana.> It appears Shri Bhattacdharjya has stopped using any panchanga at all in spite of being a jyotishi! Maybe he calculates horoscopes only through his parokshya knowledge or maybe even just by having a look at the skies! To put the records straight, however, this is what the Rashtriya Panchanga goes on repeating year after year on the Winter Solstie Day, " Uttarayana Divas/Day " . Similarly, on every Summer Solstice Day it goes on repeating, " Dakshinayana Day/Divas " . So Shri Bhattacharjya better brush up his knowledge of even the current panchangas before entering into discussions on technical points. <Any astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times of the Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana period at all.> Shri Bhattacharjya is correct that the Uttarayana Day did not fall in Makar Sanrkanti in about 3200 BCE, but that is just because there were no Mesha etc. rashis in India then! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Dear friends, > > So here is another untruth from Jyotirved: > > ////  1. As all the > siddhantas and Puranas tell us that the Uttarayana Day i.e. Winter Solstice is > the shortest day of year and that very day is known as Makar Sankranti, > would you call such a Makar Sankranti as sayana or nirayana and why?  /// > > Firstly Jyotirved does not know the meaning of Uttarayana. Uttarayana is the period of six months of the northern course of the Sun. Uttarayana starts with the shortest day and continues till the longest day is reached. Calling the shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It should be called only as the starting day of the Uttarayana. > > No Purana had called the starting day of the Uttarayana as the Makar Sankranti. Makar Sankranti is when there is Makar Sankramana, ie. when the Sun enters the Makar Rashi. The Makar Rashi is sidereal or Nirayana and it is as defined in the Vamana purana is from the the beginning of the second pada of the Uttarashadha Nakshatra to the end of the second pada of the Dhanishtha Nakshatra. Due to precession there was a time in the past when the Makar Sankranti and the starting day of the Uttarayana coincided.. Now a days the Makar Sankranti falls within the six months period of the Uttarayana. Any astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times of the Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana period at all. > > I am sure this will go over the head of Jyotirved as he does not have the capacity to understand this. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jyotirved <jyotirved@. ..> wrote: > > jyotirved <jyotirved@. ..> > [VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] Re: The Views of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet > vedic_research_ institute > Cc: hinducalendar, , indiaarchaeology, " 'subash razdan' " <subashrazdan@ ...> > Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:46 AM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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