[VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] The Views of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet

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Dear friends,

Jai Shri Ram!

< Avtar Krishen Kaul quotes dictoionary ususally why then he fails to quote

dictionary for Uttarayana now?

Shri Ram!>

Sanskrit-English Dictionary by Monier-Williams published by MLBD, Delhi, page

178: " Uttarayana n. the progress of the sun to the north; the period of the

sun's progress to the north of equator; the summer solstice "

Jai Shri Ram!

A K Kaul

 

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

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> Dear friends,

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> Avtar Krishen Kaul quotes dictoionary ususally why then he fails to quote

dictionary for Uttarayana now?

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> He has  not proved that the puranas were not available in those days

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> --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:

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> Krishen <jyotirved

> [VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] Re: The Views of Patrizia

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> Sunday, December 6, 2009, 6:54 AM

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Dear friends,

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> Jai Shri Ram!

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> <Uttarayana is the period of six months of the northern course of the Sun.

Uttarayana starts with the shortest day and continues till the longest day is

reached. Calling the shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It

should be called only as the starting day of the Uttarayana.>

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> It appears Shri Bhattacdharjya has stopped using any panchanga at all in spite

of being a jyotishi! Maybe he calculates horoscopes only through his parokshya

knowledge or maybe even just by having a look at the skies!

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> To put the records straight, however, this is what the Rashtriya Panchanga

goes on repeating year after year on the Winter Solstie Day, " Uttarayana

Divas/Day " .

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> Similarly, on every Summer Solstice Day it goes on repeating, " Dakshinayana

Day/Divas " .

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> So Shri Bhattacharjya better brush up his knowledge of even the current

panchangas before entering into discussions on technical points.

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> <Any astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times

of the Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana

period at all.>

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> Shri Bhattacharjya is correct that the Uttarayana Day did not fall in Makar

Sanrkanti in about 3200 BCE, but that is just because there were no Mesha etc.

rashis in India then!

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> Jai Shri Ram!

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> A K Kaul

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> , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy

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> > So here is another untruth from Jyotirved:

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> > siddhantas and Puranas tell us that the Uttarayana Day i.e. Winter Solstice

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> > the shortest day of year and that very day is known as Makar Sankranti, 

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> > would you call such a Makar Sankranti as sayana or nirayana and why?  

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> > Firstly Jyotirved does not know the meaning of Uttarayana. Uttarayana is the

period of six months of the northern course of the Sun. Uttarayana starts with

the shortest day and continues till the longest day is reached. Calling the

shortest day as the Uttarayana day is not correct. It should be called only as

the starting day of the Uttarayana.

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> > No Purana had called the starting day of the Uttarayana as the Makar

Sankranti. Makar Sankranti is when there is Makar Sankramana, ie. when the Sun

enters the Makar Rashi. The Makar Rashi  is sidereal or Nirayana and it is as

defined in the Vamana purana is from the the beginning of the second pada of the

Uttarashadha Nakshatra to the end of the second pada of the Dhanishtha

Nakshatra. Due to precession there was a time in the past when the Makar

Sankranti and the starting day of the Uttarayana coincided.. Now a days the

Makar Sankranti falls within the six months period of the Uttarayana. Any

astronomer will tell you that in the 32nd century BCE ie.during the times of the

Mahabharata war, the Makar Sankranti did not fall in the Uttarayana period at

all.

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> > I am sure this will go over the head of Jyotirved as he does not have the

capacity to understand this.

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> > Regards,

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> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

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> > --- On Wed, 12/2/09, jyotirved <jyotirved@ ..> wrote:

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> > [VRI] [WAVES-Vedic] Re: The Views of Patrizia

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> > Cc: hinducalendar, ,

indiaarchaeology, " 'subash razdan' " <subashrazdan@ ...>

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