Fwd: Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet response to Shri S. K. Battacharjya Part 4 of 4

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WAVES-Vedic , " hari " <harimalla wrote:

 

Dear Wilkinsonji,

Namaste! The following views of PNB, I feel need amendment. Her understanding

seems to be partially correct.

<Earth-orientation was lost and all Measure was from that beyond, as

exemplified in the sidereal circle, not FROM THE EARTH outward. Measure of the

sidereal brand was thus IMPOSED upon the Earth from beyond – contrary to the

most fundamental precept of the Veda, that all stems from WITHIN.>

The constellation from beyond as the imposer on the earth is understood. But She

does not seem to have understood what is meant by stemming from within, the

fundamental precept of the Vedas.

Thus I would like to suggest to her as to what is the within, from which all

stems out.That within, in my view is, the 'Sun' since it is at the center of the

earth orbit. Thus the beyond is the circle of stars as she says and the 'within'

is the 'sun' at the center of the earth orbit which contains the four cardinal

points, the solstices and the equinoxes. So we have the ultimate as the sun

fixed at the center of the circle of stars. Since both the sun and the stars are

part of th same whole, we have the 'integral yoga' as the ultimate result there

of, since the sun easily intergrates with the stars, it also being just a star.

I hope she is satisfied.

Regards,

Hari Malla

 

WAVES-Vedic , Robert Wilkinson <robtw@> wrote:

>

> IV

>

> If this Earth-centred Vedic experience is understood, it will also explain

> how so fundamental a focus on the Tropical Zodiac for the Journey was lost.

> It was when astronomy became separated from the sacred and a `science' unto

> itself that the idea arose of an `unscientific' astrology which required

> rectification by Science. Since there were no Vedic Astrologers in Bharat at

> the time, only pundits (not Yogis, bear in mind), the latter were easily

> cowered down into accepting the lead of science in a field well beyond its

> scope. It was then that the focus shifted to the constellations in lieu of

> the Tropical Zodiac of the ecliptic, disregarding the irrefutable evidence

> in all the sacred texts that this was and remains an aberration. At the same

> time yogas, philosophies, cosmologies arose which followed the same logic:

> to seek `light' in the Beyond – in the case of astrology it would be

> translated into eschewing the Earth-measure and adopting the sidereal system

> with its floating Ayanamsha.

> Truth is ever present, nonetheless. Thus, the two branches developed into

> `proof' for one another. But in both cases, `scientific' cosmology and

> spirituality, no such solid proof can be provided for the accuracy science

> claimed it alone could furnish; just as no religion can furnish proof of

> `heaven' in an afterlife, or else in a sequence of rebirths. These demand

> faith, belief – not science, not the factuality we find in the Vedic Way.

> Briefly, this means that from that point onward Swar became `otherworldly';

> Earth-orientation was lost and all Measure was from that beyond, as

> exemplified in the sidereal circle, not FROM THE EARTH outward. Measure of

> the sidereal brand was thus IMPOSED upon the Earth from beyond – contrary to

> the most fundamental precept of the Veda, that all stems from WITHIN.

> Ironically, and here lies the rub, no accuracy and factuality was

> forthcoming, as imagined, since that sidereal circle does not actually have

> an Ayanamsha, a Zero Point. Its existence is entirely `relative', as our

> science is today; while the Vedic Way was as `absolute' as the unchanging

> Cardinal Equinoxes and Solstices. For the latter we do not require any

> `rectification'. Their measures are what they are and have been across the

> Ages. All we need to do, as the ancient texts indicate, is to calculate

> Mahavishuva (March Equinox) and Capricorn Sankranti (December Solstice): no

> guess work, no reliance on this pundit or that. Above all, no speculation in

> matters that stand beyond relativism.

>

>

> Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet

> Director

> Aeon Centre of Cosmology

>

 

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