Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Manoj, Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. Best Wishes ! Utkal. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > Â > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > ........ ###### > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- o\ > f-jk-antony. htm > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- \ > of-jk-antony. htm> > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > regards, > Utkal > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > using > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > studied enough. > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > focus > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > gochara, > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > they > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > Desha > > and Kaala. > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > to > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > by > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > and Rahu. > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > withdrawal > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > of polished talks of business. > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > 87, > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > to > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > golden > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > shield > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > be > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > getting > > involved in petty issues. > > > > regards, > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Shri Utkalji, What a nice mail ! You made my day, it was beautiful on the line of Rig Vaidik traditions. < Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > In Rig Veda there are hymns which clearly show the war time and Vaidik Rishi also suggested some rituals just to avoid those conflicting situations. Now we know those war times in the form of deployment or removal of troops. Beautiful ! < Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. > What a beautiful point ! Savitar God has been taken as Aditya in Rig Veda (Sun God) and now we know (Post Vaidik times) according to astrology that Sunday represents the day of Sun so on Sunday at the time of Sun rise we recite it. Beautiful ! No words for praise... Utkalji alot respects for you.... Regs, Prashant Pandey PS:- If any green eyed monster needs Hymn from Rig-Veda for above points, anytime he may ask. , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > Dear Manoj, > > Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > > This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. > > Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. > > Best Wishes ! > Utkal. > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@> > > > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > > > Â > > > > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > > > ........ ###### > > > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- o\ > > f-jk-antony. htm > > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- \ > > of-jk-antony. htm> > > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > > regards, > > Utkal > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > > using > > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > > studied enough. > > > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > > focus > > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > > gochara, > > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > > they > > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > > Desha > > > and Kaala. > > > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > > to > > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > > by > > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > > and Rahu. > > > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > > withdrawal > > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > > of polished talks of business. > > > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > > 87, > > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > > to > > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > > golden > > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > > shield > > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > > be > > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > > getting > > > involved in petty issues. > > > > > > regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: Shri Utkalji, What a nice mail ! You made my day, it was beautiful as it was on the line of Rig Vaidik traditions. < Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > In Rig Veda there are hymns which clearly show the war time and Vaidik Rishi also suggested some rituals just to avoid those conflicting situations. Now we know those war times in the form of deployment or removal of troops. Beautiful ! < Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. > What a beautiful point ! Savitar God has been taken as Aditya in Rig Veda (Sun God) and now we know (Post Vaidik times) according to astrology that Sunday represents the day of Sun so on Sunday at the time of Sun rise we recite it. Beautiful ! Regs, Prashant Pandey PS-1:- If any green eyed monster needs Hymn from Rig-Veda for above points, anytime he may ask. PS-2:- I am forwarding mail of other forum here as i dont know when it will appear over there. , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: Dear Manoj, Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. Best Wishes ! Utkal. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@> > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > Â > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > ........ ###### > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- o\ > f-jk-antony. htm > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- \ > of-jk-antony. htm> > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > regards, > Utkal > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > using > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > studied enough. > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > focus > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > gochara, > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > they > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > Desha > > and Kaala. > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > to > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > by > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > and Rahu. > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > withdrawal > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > of polished talks of business. > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > 87, > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > to > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > golden > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > shield > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > be > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > getting > > involved in petty issues. > > > > regards, > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Astrologers have some duty towards nation, mundane astrology does that, As I warned in previous article on Defence Operations and Jyotish that planetary position is indicating removal of troops on 5'th of Dec, removal was orderred by govt on 20'th of Dec and now this is the seen, pls recall same mistakes were done before Kargil war under influence of similar configuration - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Around-700-jihadis-waiting-to-s\ trike-in-JK/articleshow/5421728.cms <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Around-700-jihadis-waiting-to-\ strike-in-JK/articleshow/5421728.cms> http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/2010/01/07/indian-media-falls-for-t\ he-jehadi-bait/ <http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/2010/01/07/indian-media-falls-for-\ the-jehadi-bait/> Pls take it into your notice that places and planets are linked, this was discovered by our ancient seers, we got deviated in 20'th century when we started using country's chart like individual charts. Utkal. , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: > > Shri Utkalji, > > What a nice mail ! > > You made my day, it was beautiful on the line of Rig Vaidik traditions. > > < Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > > > In Rig Veda there are hymns which clearly show the war time and Vaidik Rishi also suggested some rituals just to avoid those conflicting situations. > > Now we know those war times in the form of deployment or removal of troops. > Beautiful ! > > < Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. > > > What a beautiful point ! > > Savitar God has been taken as Aditya in Rig Veda (Sun God) and now we know (Post Vaidik times) according to astrology that Sunday represents the day of Sun so on Sunday at the time of Sun rise we recite it. > > Beautiful ! No words for praise... > > Utkalji alot respects for you.... > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > PS:- If any green eyed monster needs Hymn from Rig-Veda for above points, anytime he may ask. > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj, > > > > Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > > > > This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. > > > > Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. > > > > Best Wishes ! > > Utkal. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@> > > > > > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > > > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > > > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > > > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > > > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > > > > > ........ ###### > > > > > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- o\ > > > f-jk-antony. htm > > > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- \ > > > of-jk-antony. htm> > > > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > > > regards, > > > Utkal > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > > > using > > > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > > > studied enough. > > > > > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > > > focus > > > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > > > gochara, > > > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > > > they > > > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > > > Desha > > > > and Kaala. > > > > > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > > > to > > > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > > > by > > > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > > > and Rahu. > > > > > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > > > withdrawal > > > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > > > of polished talks of business. > > > > > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > > > 87, > > > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > > > to > > > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > > > golden > > > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > > > shield > > > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > > > be > > > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > > > getting > > > > involved in petty issues. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Astrologers have some duty towards nation, true mundane astrology does that, As I warned in previous article on Defence Operations and Jyotish that planetary position is indicating removal of troops on 5'th of Dec, removal was orderred by govt on 20'th of Dec and now this is the seen, pls recall same mistakes were done before Kargil war under influence of similar configuration - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Around-700-jihadis-waiting-to-strike-in-JK/articleshow/5421728.cms http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/2010/01/07/indian-media-falls-for-the-jehadi-bait/Pls take it into your notice that places and planets are linked, this was discovered by our ancient seers, we got deviated in 20'th century when we started using country's chart like individual charts. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "prashant" <praspandey wrote:>> Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , "prashant" praspandey@ wrote:> > Shri Utkalji,> > What a nice mail !> > You made my day, it was beautiful as it was on the line of Rig Vaidik traditions.> > < Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. >> > In Rig Veda there are hymns which clearly show the war time and Vaidik Rishi also suggested some rituals just to avoid those conflicting situations.> > Now we know those war times in the form of deployment or removal of troops. > Beautiful !> > < Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra. >> > What a beautiful point !> > Savitar God has been taken as Aditya in Rig Veda (Sun God) and now we know (Post Vaidik times) according to astrology that Sunday represents the day of Sun so on Sunday at the time of Sun rise we recite it.> > Beautiful !> > Regs,> Prashant Pandey> > PS-1:- If any green eyed monster needs Hymn from Rig-Veda for above points, anytime he may ask.> > PS-2:- I am forwarding mail of other forum here as i dont know when it will appear over there. > > > , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:> > Dear Manoj,> > Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened.> > This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us.> > Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the meaning of gayatri mantra.> > Best Wishes !> Utkal.> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:> >> > Dear Utkal ji,> > > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study.> > > > regards,> > > > Manoj> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@>> > > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM> > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldier Withdrawn> > > > Â > > > > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security> > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's> > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical> > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War> > > > ........ ######> > > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- o\> > f-jk-antony. htm> > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- moved-out- \> > of-jk-antony. htm>> > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !!> > regards,> > Utkal> > , "utkal.panigrahi"> > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been> > using> > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They> > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha> > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance> > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not> > > studied enough.> > >> > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various> > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival,> > focus> > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without> > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala.> > >> > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in> > gochara,> > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are> > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why> > they> > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to> > Desha> > > and Kaala.> > >> > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while> > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah> > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin> > to> > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark.> > >> > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven> > by> > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn> > > and Rahu.> > >> > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence> > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about> > withdrawal> > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also> > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of> > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages.> > >> > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before> > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma> > > of polished talks of business.> > >> > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's> > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded> > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to> > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo).> > >> > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were> > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if> > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries> > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna> > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged.> > >> > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to> > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha,> > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart,> > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof> > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact> > > cause, now it's our part to get head.> > >> > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in> > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented.> > >> > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land> > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total> > 87,> > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led> > to> > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such> > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study> > > how graha's impact people's thoughts.> > >> > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given> > golden> > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables.> > >> > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a> > shield> > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to> > be> > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China,> > > certainly, this is something then a direct war.> > >> > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and> > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi> > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of> > getting> > > involved in petty issues.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Manoj, the withdrawl is more strategic than a concession to Pak, as there is need to show Pak public that India has acted under their pressure thru US for support on War onterror apart from the doles, gifts they get for their army and the cash. but witha act or two of violations surely the Indian goivt will use its might, right to put them back there. this can also be seen astrologically by the time Kuja enters Simha the troops will be back in business area. the vakri status of Budha, kuja have a role here as India's chart the th Budha [intellect.tact, wit, admin skills] and 2nd family are involved along with Kuja the 7th lord the lord of PRship, showmanship, wars, litigations, DIPLOMACY etc is neecha, vakri too. once direct the trend will change and when in gochara enters Simha aspecing te 7th WILL HAVE A ROLE in strategic redoployment. ASAP and mundane astrology is far deepr we r not so well eqiuped as B V RAMAN JI, kn RAO ji or lacchan das have we r just using the inputs they presented to us and can make piece meal efforts it is far deep and needs greater understanding of the diffeent places, regions, under diff grahas and the leadership in th regions involved. with a blend and intilligent use of history as well. best wishes best wishes On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > wrote: > > > Dear Manoj, > > Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse > in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > > This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. > > Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, > After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the > meaning of gayatri mantra. > > Best Wishes ! > Utkal. > > <%40>, > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist > activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen > anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > > <%40> > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : > 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > > > Â > > > > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > > > ........ ###### > > > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- > moved-out- o\ > > f-jk-antony. htm > > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- > moved-out- \ > > of-jk-antony. htm> > > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > > regards, > > Utkal > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > > using > > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > > studied enough. > > > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > > focus > > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > > gochara, > > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > > they > > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > > Desha > > > and Kaala. > > > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > > to > > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > > by > > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > > and Rahu. > > > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > > withdrawal > > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > > of polished talks of business. > > > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > > 87, > > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > > to > > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > > golden > > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > > shield > > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > > be > > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > > getting > > > involved in petty issues. > > > > > > regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dear Prashant ji, I could understand nothing from your instant mail. Kindly elaborate. regards, Manoj ________________________________ astro desk <astro.prashantkumar Mon, January 11, 2010 11:00:28 PM Re: Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : 30000 Soldiers Withdrawn Dear Manoj, the withdrawl is more strategic than a concession to Pak, as there is need to show Pak public that India has acted under their pressure thru US for support on War onterror apart from the doles, gifts they get for their army and the cash. but witha act or two of violations surely the Indian goivt will use its might, right to put them back there. this can also be seen astrologically by the time Kuja enters Simha the troops will be back in business area. the vakri status of Budha, kuja have a role here as India's chart the th Budha [intellect.tact, wit, admin skills] and 2nd family are involved along with Kuja the 7th lord the lord of PRship, showmanship, wars, litigations, DIPLOMACY etc is neecha, vakri too. once direct the trend will change and when in gochara enters Simha aspecing te 7th WILL HAVE A ROLE in strategic redoployment. ASAP and mundane astrology is far deepr we r not so well eqiuped as B V RAMAN JI, kn RAO ji or lacchan das have we r just using the inputs they presented to us and can make piece meal efforts it is far deep and needs greater understanding of the diffeent places, regions, under diff grahas and the leadership in th regions involved. with a blend and intilligent use of history as well. best wishes best wishes On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > wrote: > > > Dear Manoj, > > Astrology indicated removal of troops deployed there, thus creating lapse > in security,Now we see, removal of troops has happened. > > This is greatness of our sages who passed on their knowledge to us. > > Do you do gayatri mantra on sundays ? If not, pls begin from this sunday, > After Budha, Sun has moved to Dhanur along with Sukra. try to grasp the > meaning of gayatri mantra. > > Best Wishes ! > Utkal. > > <%40>, > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Are you hinting at war between India and Pakistan or increased terrorist > activity (which is in common parlance and everybody knows it can happen > anyday anytime). What are you trying to hint at with 3 years of study. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > > <%40> > > Fri, December 18, 2009 12:08:53 PM > > Re: A Paper on Defence Operations and Jyotish : > 30000 Soldier Withdrawn > > > > Â > > > > > > As apprensions expressed in following study, shadow on national security > > has begun, today 30,000 soldiers are withdrawn from kashmir, Again Jup's > > transit from Makar to Kumbha has caused a epeatation of the historical > > mistakes like earlier, recall backdrop of Kargil War > > > > ........ ###### > > > > http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- > moved-out- o\ > > f-jk-antony. htm > > <http://news. rediff.com/ report/2009/ dec/18/two- army-divisions- > moved-out- \ > > of-jk-antony. htm> > > Why this sort of study doesn't catch attention of jyotishis !! > > regards, > > Utkal > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Since time immemorial, Yamal and Agam (Tantra) classics have been > > using > > > Jyotish for the wellness of Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), They > > > gave additional emphasis on study of vakri (retro) and neecha > > > (debilitated) grahas, over the period particularly, In the renaissance > > > of Jyotish in 19'th and 20'th century, vakri and neecha grahas are not > > > studied enough. > > > > > > Divided in various schools, jyotishis have been aligned to various > > > individuals as they lived under pressure of identiy and survival, > > focus > > > have been Janma Kundali, mostly paatra (Individual) is seen without > > > proper consideration of desha (country) and kaala. > > > > > > Indian fate is written by Jup and Mars, both are debilitated in > > gochara, > > > I am surprised why this has not alarmed Jyotishis, are > > > flooded with superficial discussions, Jyotishis must understand why > > they > > > were once called Daivagya, perhaps, they have lost sensitivity to > > Desha > > > and Kaala. > > > > > > Mars has gone to it's longest period of debility in the century while > > > Jup is now moving out from debility to Kumbha, I never liked Varah > > > Mihira's approach, That he said Jup in Sani (Saturn's) house is akin > > to > > > it's exaltation is beyond understanding and a question mark. > > > > > > Graha affects different geo regions differently, US growth is driven > > by > > > Jup and Sat combined, Indian growth by Mars and Jup, China's by Saturn > > > and Rahu. > > > > > > Jup-Mars combination triggers Indian GDP as well as defence > > > preparedness, These day's when Govt has started talking about > > withdrawal > > > of army troops from Kashmir border, I was least surprised, I was also > > > not suprised when news about stopping a road construction because of > > > Chinese objection spread, It has been since ages. > > > > > > Jyotish is the only tool that has capability of alarming before > > > historical mistakes are done by rosy leaders, individualistic charisma > > > of polished talks of business. > > > > > > Kashmir - Pamir region is vulnerable to Jup's debility, During Jup's > > > debility a cycle begins invloving Mars and Saturn, First recorded > > > invasion to Kashmir happened when Jup moved from makar (capricorn) to > > > kumbha and Saturn to kanya (Virgo). > > > > > > During the regime of Shekha Abdullah in 1949 and 1950, troops were > > > withdrawn from Kashmir and article 370 was inforced, some actions if > > > done under a planetary configuration leaves their impact for centuries > > > ahead, Jyotishis have been exploring muhurta and practising prashna > > > still matured vision of graha gochara (transit) has not yet emerged. > > > > > > In 1962, troops were not deployed in key positions, mars went to > > > debility from 30'th sept to 14'th dec when jup was still on Kumbha, > > > dependent on so called ingress charts and so called country's chart, > > > which propogated in last 100 years time, Pioneer jyotishi like Prof > > > Rao and several others did a beginning but missed to understand exact > > > cause, now it's our part to get head. > > > > > > Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir in 1973 when Jup was in > > > debility, remember, Shimla pact of peace never got implemented. > > > > > > In 1997, Troops were again withdrawn from Kashmir following the land > > > slide victory of National Confrence, they won 57 seats out of total > > 87, > > > In order to mark respect to democracy troops were withdrawn which led > > to > > > intense infiltration, Jyotish is capable of warning for such > > > infiltration or invasions before they can take place, as it can study > > > how graha's impact people's thoughts. > > > > > > Mars also drives dearness, It's aspect on Jup has not only given > > golden > > > height to gold prices it has also affected food grain and vegetables. > > > > > > Currently, Jup has been in conjunction with Rahu, this provides a > > shield > > > to India but with Rahu's entry into dhanu (Sagittarious) shield is to > > be > > > weathered. There is a need to understand the motives of China, > > > certainly, this is something then a direct war. > > > > > > I wish those who are in decision making will be more cautious and > > > understand the alarm that jyotish is giving, I also hope our Jyotishi > > > friends will start paying attention to Desh and Kaala instead of > > getting > > > involved in petty issues. > > > > > > regards, > > > Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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