Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 HinduCalendar , sammod acharya <samodacharya wrote: Dear Kaullji   Thanks a lot for remembering.Best wishes of vatrsararambha to you and all. Solar year of VJ starts from the starting point of the solar udagayana that is the winter solstice. It is known from the sixth sloka svarakramete etc it is supported by the slokas prapadyete etc, gharmavriddhi etc and yaduttarasya etc. VJ is for yajna yajnakalarthasiddhaye there is no direct use of solar year, ayana, ritu and month in yjna. We need the solar ayana mainly for determining the Vedic intercalary month when one solo lunar year is determined following solo lunar years are easily determined when the past uninterrupted series of solo lunar years is unbroken the following solo lunar years are easily determined. All these things are explained in the kaundinnyayana vyakhyana of VJ published by Chaukhamba Vidya Bhavana of Varanasi (2005); the book is available in Delhi at Chaukhmba Sanskrit Pratisthana, 38 U A Bangalo road, Jabahara Nagara also. All things are explained in Hindi also in this book. Please read the book thoroughly every thing will be clear.Our new hindi book on vedanga jyotish Bharatavarsheeya jyotishke jwalant prashna aur Vedanga Jyotish (2008) published by same publisher deals in detail with all these issues.  regards ,  sammod    --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jyotirved jyotirved wrote: jyotirved jyotirved [HinduCalendar] Best wishes for Uttarayana of 2009 hinducalendar , , usbrahmins , vedic_research_institute , akandabaratam , asthikasamaj , mukti_marg , indiaarchaeology Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:11 AM  Dear friends, Best wishes for Uttarayana of 2009! Uttarayana Day, known as Winter Solstice in English language, is a unique Hindu festival --- like the Summer Solstice (Dakshinayana) and the two Ayanaas i.e. Vernal and autumnal Equinox, known as Vasanta Sampat and Hemanta Sampat respectively. All these festivals, as per the Puranas. are said to yield thousand-fold results if charities are bestowed during their punya-kala or other puja/japa/archana is conducted/performed during that period. Unfortunately, because of our fatal infatuation with predictive gimmicks, which some people call “Vedic astrologyâ€, we have gone completely out of touch with these universal geographic and religious phenomena. Uttarayana Day is also known as Makar Sankranti as per all the siddhantas, including the Surya Siddhanta, and all the Puranas, including the Bhagavata, Vishnu and Vishnu-dharmotarapu rana etc. The exact timing of Uttaryana for 2009 is 17 hrs. 47 mts UT/GMT which corresponds to 23 hrs. 17 mts. IST of December 21, 2009. Those desirous of doing Tantrika kriyas at the exact moment can start doing so around 23 hrs. IST and continue for about an hour, though the snana-dhyana etc. of Uttarayana will be on December 22 right from the dawn. It is the same Uttarayana that was and must be known as Makaradi-snana in UP and Bihar etc.; Shishira Sankranti in Kashmir and Makar Sankranti for the whole of India. It is also the start of the Vedic month Tapah and solar Magha apart from Shishira Ritu. There is no other Makar Sankranti either as per the Siddhantas or Puranas, not to speak of the Vedas or the Vedanga Jyotisha since Makar etc. rashis, being imaginary divisions, are conspicuous by their absence from those works. Anybody, however, can celebrate any Sankranti on any day, since India is the largest democracy in the world and every body has his/her “religious freedom†even to celebrate any imaginary sankranti! The so called Dhanurmasa, which is an anathema for marriages etc. as per muhurta shastras, also ends actually on December 21 itself, instead of January 15, when “almighty†Lahiri Dharniumasa will end! With regards, A K Kaul --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Respected Sammod Acharya, Jai Shri Ram and welcome to HinduCalendar forum. In fact, Hindus need scholars like you for clear cut guidelines about streamlining the Hindu Calendar. < Solar year of VJ starts from the starting point of the solar udagayana that is the winter solstice. It is known from the sixth sloka svarakramete etc it is supported by the slokas prapadyete etc, gharmavriddhi etc and yaduttarasya etc. VJ is for yajna yajnakalarthasiddhaye there is no direct use of solar year, ayana, ritu and month in yjna. We need the solar ayana mainly for determining the Vedic intercalary month> You are absolutely right that in the Vedanga Jyotisha and later Paitamaha and Vasishtha Sidhanta etc., we do not have any clear indication about the methodology of finding the starting dates of solar months. That is also clear from Mesha, Vrisha etc. rashis being conspicuous by their absence from all these astronomical works. But the four cardinal points have been given due importance in the Vedas and the VJ directly or indirectly. One of the main handicaps that the Indian astronomers were facing as early as 1400 BCE or even in early centuries of Common Era, was the mathematical computation for calculating exact solar ingresses from Tapas to Tapasya and so on. Gnomon was the main instrument used for such purposes, but it is next to impossible to calculate the exact timings of even Uttarayana or Dakshinayana etc. phenomena leave alone the other months like Tapasya and Madhu etc., without taking recourse to observations over several centuries. Modern astronomy is also undergoing changes by the day even if it is by milliseconds in computing the exact timings of Winter Solstice etc. A fundamental question that arises otherwise is that if the four cardinal points were not of any importance in the Vedic period, why and how did they get all the attention in the Puranas and Tantra Shashtra etc.? This will be evident from BVB6, 1999b and rashi5 and npj1 etc. documents in the files section. These four cardinal points do not have much of a religious significance in other religions. Thus though Mesha, Vrisha etc. rashis were imported into India from other countries, and they were clubbed with Vernal and Autumnal Equinox etc., but the solar ingress into (so called Sayana rashis) of Mesha, Karkata, Tula and Makara etc. rashis gained prominence and importance only because of their association with the four cardinal points. If Makar Sankranti was being celebrated with fervour over the last several centuries I India, it is not because that Sankranti has any intrinsic value but it is only because of its association with Udagayana, the Winter Solstice, as it was the start of the new solar year as per the Vedanga Jyotisha. We also find that several commentators of the Vedanga Jyotisha have linked Tapas and Tapasya etc. months to seasonal solar months and Magha, Phalgua etc. to lunar months. Similarly, regarding the thirteen lunar months, an adhika and kshyya masa can take place only if it is compared to some standard year that has only twelve months. To take the duration of the solar year as 366 days and then calculate adhika or kshyaya lunar masa just on the basis of that very duration is a far fetched point. We find the mention of thirteenth month in the Rig Veda itself, and unless and until there had been a concept of twelve solar months, it is impossible to presume that the thirteenth month would have been an adhika masa! <when one solo lunar year is determined following solo lunar years are easily determined when the past uninterrupted series of solo lunar years is unbroken the following solo lunar years are easily determined.> It was not an easy job to determine even a solar year in 1400 BCE! Regarding a lunar year, it is a misnomer! A solar year means the revolution of the earth from one Solstice to another as during the time of the VJ or from one Equinox to another, as at present. On the other hand, lunar revolution from one VE to another is known as a Tropical month and from one “Fixed Star†to another is known as a sidereal month, whereas the period between one New Moon and another is known as a Synodic month! There is never a lunar year, as such! Besides, we have to bear in mind that it is a “masa†(month) that is adhika or kshyaya, and it can be so only against some other standard month and not some standard year! As such, we have to go by the spirit (and not just the letter) of the Vedas and the Veadanga Jyotisha as far as calculation of adhika or kshyaya masa etc. is concerned. And this can be done only by treating Tapas, Tapasya etc. months as solar and Magha, Phalgua etc. months as lunar. With regards, A K Kaul HinduCalendar , sammod acharya <samodacharya wrote: Re: [HinduCalendar] Best wishes for Uttarayana of 2009 Dear Kaullji Thanks a lot for remembering.Best wishes of vatrsararambha to you and all. Solar year of VJ starts from the starting point of the solar udagayana that is the winter solstice. It is known from the sixth sloka svarakramete etc it is supported by the slokas prapadyete etc, gharmavriddhi etc and yaduttarasya etc. VJ is for yajna yajnakalarthasiddhaye there is no direct use of solar year, ayana, ritu and month in yjna. We need the solar ayana mainly for determining the Vedic intercalary month when one solo lunar year is determined following solo lunar years are easily determined when the past uninterrupted series of solo lunar years is unbroken the following solo lunar years are easily determined. All these things are explained in the kaundinnyayana vyakhyana of VJ published by Chaukhamba Vidya Bhavana of Varanasi (2005); the book is available in Delhi at Chaukhmba Sanskrit Pratisthana, 38 U A Bangalo road, Jabahara Nagara also. All things are explained in Hindi also in this book. Please read the book thoroughly every thing will be clear.Our new hindi book on vedanga jyotish Bharatavarsheeya jyotishke jwalant prashna aur Vedanga Jyotish (2008) published by same publisher deals in detail with all these issues. regards , sammod --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: jyotirved <jyotirved [HinduCalendar] Best wishes for Uttarayana of 2009 hinducalendar , , usbrahmins , vedic_research_institute , akandabaratam , asthikasamaj , mukti_marg , indiaarchaeology Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear friends, Best wishes for Uttarayana of 2009! Uttarayana Day, known as Winter Solstice in English language, is a unique Hindu festival --- like the Summer Solstice (Dakshinayana) and the two Ayanaas i.e. Vernal and autumnal Equinox, known as Vasanta Sampat and Hemanta Sampat respectively. All these festivals, as per the Puranas. are said to yield thousand-fold results if charities are bestowed during their punya-kala or other puja/japa/archana is conducted/performed during that period. Unfortunately, because of our fatal infatuation with predictive gimmicks, which some people call “Vedic astrologyâ€Â, we have gone completely out of touch with these universal geographic and religious phenomena. Uttarayana Day is also known as Makar Sankranti as per all the siddhantas, including the Surya Siddhanta, and all the Puranas, including the Bhagavata, Vishnu and Vishnu-dharmotarapu rana etc. The exact timing of Uttaryana for 2009 is 17 hrs. 47 mts UT/GMT which corresponds to 23 hrs. 17 mts. IST of December 21, 2009. Those desirous of doing Tantrika kriyas at the exact moment can start doing so around 23 hrs. IST and continue for about an hour, though the snana-dhyana etc. of Uttarayana will be on December 22 right from the dawn. It is the same Uttarayana that was and must be known as Makaradi-snana in UP and Bihar etc.; Shishira Sankranti in Kashmir and Makar Sankranti for the whole of India. It is also the start of the Vedic month Tapah and solar Magha apart from Shishira Ritu. There is no other Makar Sankranti either as per the Siddhantas or Puranas, not to speak of the Vedas or the Vedanga Jyotisha since Makar etc. rashis, being imaginary divisions, are conspicuous by their absence from those works. Anybody, however, can celebrate any Sankranti on any day, since India is the largest democracy in the world and every body has his/her “religious freedom†even to celebrate any imaginary sankranti! The so called Dhanurmasa, which is an anathema for marriages etc. as per muhurta shastras, also ends actually on December 21 itself, instead of January 15, when “almighty†Lahiri Dharniumasa will end! With regards, A K Kaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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