Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: Dear Shri Lalitji, < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura), and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. Regs, Prashant Pandey Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > Dear Prashant, > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > a part, feeling free. > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > young Jesus visited India. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > 08:09:00 > > New Delhi > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > experts, we are > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > days, I > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > journey to > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > trans to > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > <http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > this is > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > the truth > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > some > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > Sometimes i also > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > So i > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > mails on my > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > embarked > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Dear Prashant Ji and All, I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " .  Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ prashant <praspandey Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM East, Direction of Religion !  Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> wrote: Dear Shri Lalitji, < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. Regs, Prashant Pandey Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > Dear Prashant, > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > a part, feeling free. > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > young Jesus visited India. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > 08:09:00 > > New Delhi > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > experts, we are > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > days, I > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > journey to > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > trans to > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > this is > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > the truth > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > some > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > Sometimes i also > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > So i > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > mails on my > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > embarked > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala-samsthitam acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " Translation of above VERSES are as below :- " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) Link is below:- http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm#You I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan). Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. Regs, Prashant Pandey , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > prashant <praspandey > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > East, Direction of Religion ! > >  > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > a part, feeling free. > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > 08:09:00 > > > New Delhi > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > experts, we are > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > days, I > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > journey to > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > trans to > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > this is > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > the truth > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > some > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > So i > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > mails on my > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > embarked > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala-samsthitam acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " Translation of above VERSES are as below :- " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) Link is below:- http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm#You I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan). Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. Regs, Prashant Pandey Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , " prashant " <praspandey@> wrote: > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > prashant <praspandey@> > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > East, Direction of Religion ! > >  > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > a part, feeling free. > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > 08:09:00 > > > New Delhi > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > experts, we are > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > days, I > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > journey to > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > trans to > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > this is > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > the truth > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > some > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > So i > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > mails on my > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > embarked > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I passed this mail over here as i thought that ppl should get aware about the facts... Regs, Prashant Pandey Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala-samsthitam > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > Link is below:- > > http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm#You > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan). Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest , " prashant " <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > prashant <praspandey@> > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > > days, I > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > > journey to > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > > trans to > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > > this is > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > > the truth > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > > some > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > > So i > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > > mails on my > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > > embarked > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Prashant_jee, The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and 'docu-dramas') must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: GANDHI! Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating a salable product! SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! Best wishes! Rohiniranjan , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala-samsthitam > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > Link is below:- > > http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm#You > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan). Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > prashant <praspandey@> > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > > days, I > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > > journey to > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > > trans to > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce02.html > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > > this is > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > > the truth > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > > some > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > > So i > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > > mails on my > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > > embarked > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear Prashant Ji, My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it belongs. " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, Nothing Unreal Exists, Therein Lies The Peace of God " . -A Course in Miracles. Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM Re: East, Direction of Religion !  Prashant_jee, The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: GANDHI! Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating a salable product! SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! Best wishes! Rohiniranjan , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > Link is below:- > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > > days, I > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > > journey to > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > > trans to > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > > this is > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > > the truth > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > > some > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > > So i > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > > mails on my > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > > embarked > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it belongs. " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, Nothing Unreal Exists, Therein Lies The Peace of God " . -A Course in Miracles.// good one indeed.... Love and regards, gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > Nothing Unreal Exists, > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > -A Course in Miracles. > > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > >  > Prashant_jee, > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: GANDHI! > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating a salable product! > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > Best wishes! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > Link is below:- > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > >  > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > > > this is > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > > > some > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > > > So i > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Dear Prashant Ji, My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it belongs. " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, Nothing Unreal Exists, Therein Lies The Peace of God " . -A Course in Miracles. Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM Re: East, Direction of Religion !  Prashant_jee, The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: GANDHI! Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating a salable product! SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! Best wishes! Rohiniranjan , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter. > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here . > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > Link is below:- > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it. > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS. > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a " Nice Soul " . > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi. > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly, > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me, > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12 > > > days, I > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on > > > journey to > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into > > > trans to > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told > > > this is > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was > > > the truth > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have > > > some > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear. > > > So i > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp > > > mails on my > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you > > > embarked > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear Prashant Ji, When I read such ideas, I remember our young Swami Vivekananda and his innocent guru Sri Ramkrishna Thakur, there is one eternal truth, god loves us and I think he also feels loneliness that's why he created this beautiful world. As far as jesus is concerned, When Thakur used to meditate on Jesus and was invoking him out of love, Jesus appeared before him, innocent thakur noticed Jesus's nose is not straight, he told this to Vivekananda. When Vivekananda visited Itali or perhapse germany, in a library of one of the oldest church, he found similar portrait of Jesus with skewed nose. Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives courage to protect truth, it loves truth. This is bharat varsha, let's not judge it's life on the basis of vimshottari dashas based on 15'th august's horoscope, bharat existed before 15'th august. regards,Lalit Mishra Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "prashant" <praspandey wrote:>> , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > Dear Prashant Ji,> > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when the "said events" have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion.> > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it belongs.> > "Nothing Real Can Be Threatened,> Nothing Unreal Exists,> Therein Lies The Peace of God".> > -A Course in Miracles.> > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ________________________________> rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@> > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM> Re: East, Direction of Religion !> >  > Prashant_jee,> > The "Mayavini" realm of movies (even the "documentaries" and 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!'> > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: GANDHI!> > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating a salable product!> > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!!> > Best wishes!> > Rohiniranjan> > , "prashant" <praspandey@ ...> wrote:> >> > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about "His teachings were completely Vedic". I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing "Vedic" in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a "Nice Soul". >> > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this matter.> > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) about Jesus Christ to put here .> > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate> > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham> > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param> > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah> > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam> > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada "> > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :-> > > > "Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'." (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.)> > > > Link is below:-> > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You> > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans.> > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since 300 BCE and those documents were called as "The Dead Sea scrolls" and those are basically "Hebrew Bible "> > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran region ie "Teacher of Righteousness" .> > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :-> > > > "Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their activities included purification by water rituals, > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. "> > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% scholars who studied it.> > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this and give abuses to VATICANS.> > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD.> > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category.> > > > Regs,> > Prashant Pandey> > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prashant Ji and All,> > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie "Jesus in India". Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives an interesting view on this contreversial subject.> > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about "His teachings were completely Vedic". I have read the Bible carefully and I don't see any thing "Vedic" in it. Christianity is primarily a religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just a "Nice Soul".> > >  > > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > prashant <praspandey@ >> > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM> > > East, Direction of Religion !> > > > > >  > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "prashant" <praspandey@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji,> > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. >> > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here.> > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and later from main source ie EAST (Bharat).> > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN CIVILIZATION now it is no more there.> > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha…> > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground).> > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now imagine who predates on other lands.> > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi> > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl.> > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri Rishi.> > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > Regs,> > > Prashant Pandey> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,> > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you openly share> > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin doing> > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can also become> > > > a part, feeling free.> > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of> > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember correctly,> > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so.> > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once happened> > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica says once> > > > young Jesus visited India.> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "prashant"> > > > <praspandey@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl> > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination> > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. >> > > > >> > > > > Details of that Native are as below:-> > > > >> > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun)> > > > > 08:09:00> > > > > New Delhi> > > > >> > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic powers bt> > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are blocking> > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete imbalance> > > > between 8'th and 12'th.> > > > >> > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 there> > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa transit near> > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him.> > > > >> > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions and he has> > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's financial condns> > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji.> > > > >> > > > > I have never met with that person.> > > > >> > > > > Regs,> > > > > Prashant Pandey> > > > >> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "prashant"> > > > praspandey@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > One Correction -> > > > > >> > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th> > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major> > > > psychic happenings. >> > > > > >> > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th and> > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be feeling> > > > major psychic happenings.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regs,> > > > > > Prashant Pandey> > > > > >> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "prashant"> > > > <praspandey@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Some Views from my side :-> > > > > > >> > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but those> > > > never harmed him and those could be Female.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in 8'th.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role for> > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th but it> > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about at same> > > > degrees of Ve and Sa.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so there is> > > > blast of possessions of spirits.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict about> > > > psychic powers. But some more points -> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise those> > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, 12'th> > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling major> > > > psychic happenings.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th , from> > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings and so> > > > never would have come in whirl of it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native and> > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the sign of> > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details to me,> > > > she is from Europe.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old but ppl> > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same combination> > > > as Edgar Cayce was having.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows Vaidik> > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative even from> > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she says she> > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just about to> > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of high> > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the concepts of> > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regs,> > > > > > > Prashant Pandey> > > > > > >> > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and only see> > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are talking> > > > to each other.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol"> > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no> > > > experts, we are> > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next 10 - 12> > > > days, I> > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can embark on> > > > journey to> > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who went into> > > > trans to> > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html>> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, I told> > > > this is> > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, this was> > > > the truth> > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , "prashant"> > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji,> > > > > > > > > Namaste!> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as i have> > > > some> > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem.> > > > Sometimes i also> > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again reappear.> > > > So i> > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I from here.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your imp> > > > mails on my> > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same!> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even you> > > > embarked> > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership in> > > > group.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regs,> > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > --- End forwarded message ---> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables one to have PERCEPTION ;-) Happy New Year! Rohiniranjan , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Manoj ji, > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > Nothing Unreal Exists, > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > -A Course in Miracles.// > good one indeed.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > belongs. > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Prashant_jee, > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > GANDHI! > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > a salable product! > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > Best wishes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > matter. > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > Rishi. > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > openly share > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > doing > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > also become > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > correctly, > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > happened > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > says once > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > powers bt > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > blocking > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > imbalance > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > there > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > transit near > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > and he has > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > financial condns > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th and > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > feeling > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > those > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > for > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > but it > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > at same > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > there is > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > about > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > those > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > , from > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > and so > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > and > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > sign of > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > to me, > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > Vaidik > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > even from > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > says she > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > about to > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > high > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > concepts of > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > only see > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > talking > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > 10 - 12 > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > embark on > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > went into > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > I told > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > this was > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > i have > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > reappear. > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > imp > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > you > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > in > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 UPPER CASE just for emphasis. Not to be misunderstood as YELLING ;-) , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables one to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > Happy New Year! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > good one indeed.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > > belongs. > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > >  > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > > GANDHI! > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > > a salable product! > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > > matter. > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > > openly share > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > > doing > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > > also become > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > > correctly, > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > > happened > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > > says once > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > > powers bt > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > > blocking > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > > imbalance > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > > there > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > > transit near > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > > and he has > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > financial condns > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th and > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > > feeling > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > > those > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > > for > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > > but it > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > > at same > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > > there is > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > > about > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > > those > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > > , from > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > > and so > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > > and > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > > sign of > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > > to me, > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > > Vaidik > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > > even from > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > > says she > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > > about to > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > > high > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > concepts of > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > > only see > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > > talking > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " litsol " > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > > embark on > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > > went into > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > > I told > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > > this was > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > > i have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > > reappear. > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > > imp > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > > you > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > > in > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though Reality may be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality of differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is in front and also everywhere... HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables one to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > Happy New Year! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > good one indeed.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > > belongs. > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > >  > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > > GANDHI! > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > > a salable product! > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > > matter. > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > > openly share > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > > doing > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > > also become > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > > correctly, > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > > happened > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > > says once > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > > powers bt > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > > blocking > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > > imbalance > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > > there > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > > transit near > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > > and he has > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > financial condns > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th and > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > > feeling > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > > those > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > > for > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > > but it > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > > at same > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > > there is > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > > about > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > > those > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > > , from > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > > and so > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > > and > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > > sign of > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > > to me, > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > > Vaidik > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > > even from > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > > says she > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > > about to > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > > high > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > concepts of > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > > only see > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > > talking > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " litsol " > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > > embark on > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > > went into > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > > I told > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > > this was > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > > i have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > > reappear. > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > > imp > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > > you > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > > in > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Gopi ji, Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality coming to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time transduction city! If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming information will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe directly interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. If you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you would get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! RR-, , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though Reality may > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality of > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is in front > and also everywhere... > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables one > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > good one indeed.... > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > , Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I > have > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - > traditional > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, > when > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when > Authorship > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) > to > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way > they > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered > Gospel > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of > Luke, > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse > since > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be > accepted by > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they > want > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are > creating > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is > none or > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ > ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > carefully > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > theory of > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than > just > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like > to > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about > this > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana > (19:28-30) > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have > established > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of > proper > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one > attains > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, > by > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one > site, > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which > is > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > Archaeologists > > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched > since > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " > and > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible > is > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region > , > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul > and > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in > nature > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according > to > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know > this > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) > and > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments > in > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made > teachings of > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings > but > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been > completely > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it > gives > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about > " His > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > carefully > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > theory of > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than > just > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik > and he > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also > says > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was > done by > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq > and > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC > Dharma > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of > that > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and > recently > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye > is > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has > contradicted > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, > he > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of > Atri > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he > was > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > > > openly share > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's > begin > > > doing > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > > > also become > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power > of > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I > remember > > > correctly, > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he > once > > > happened > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > > > says once > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years > old > > > but ppl > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > > combination > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some > psychic > > > powers bt > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke > are > > > blocking > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > > > imbalance > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same > in 12 > > > there > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > > > transit near > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his > predictions > > > and he has > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > > financial condns > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his > 8'th, > > > 12'th > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > > major > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his > 8'th, > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > > > feeling > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits > but > > > those > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are > in > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main > role > > > for > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and > 12'th > > > but it > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near > about > > > at same > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve > so > > > there is > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to > predict > > > about > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd > otherwise > > > those > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his > 8'th, > > > 12'th > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > > major > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or > 7'th > > > , from > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole > happenings > > > and so > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of > native > > > and > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > > > sign of > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those > details > > > to me, > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years > old > > > but ppl > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > > combination > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > > > even from > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And > she > > > says she > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > > > about to > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities > of > > > high > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > > concepts of > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction > and > > > only see > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those > are > > > talking > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no > gurus, no > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in > next > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > > > embark on > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > > > went into > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to > Mokscha, > > > I told > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > > > this was > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com > , > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind > as > > > i have > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any > problem. > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > > > reappear. > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send > your > > > imp > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group > even > > > you > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving > membership > > > in > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: < Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > Shri Mishraji, when anybody starts his quest about following things A)Origin of Civilizations B)Origin of Religious Thoughts C)Religious Tolerance D)Origin of Language E)Origin of Mathematics and Astronomy then after a long search person starts developing HATRED or DEEP-LOVE to only and only to Southern side of Himalayan. Why?? Because his search stucks only and only to this region. And " INDO " word has been and will always be hot word for entire world till the life will thrive on this earth. Mishraji this part has been super power in Millennia BCEs and now again things have started rolling in its favor automatically and power is again going to shift to China or India, but all want that everything should go in favor of India because of Indian's glorious past of tolerance. But same TOLERANCE has been biggest set back as Britishers, Dutch took benefit of it and colonized India and Indians remained innocent. And i don't have to speak about a dragon which took birth in 7'th Cent AD and everybody knows about that.... But the ppl , whom that dragon devoured , now say that they have been purest form of Brahmins of India. Pakistanis and Afghanis have been one of the purest Brahmins but tragedy is that, dragon has converted them and now they want that THEIR OWN ANCESTOR'S glorious past should be buried. But, Good news is, now those ppl have started taken interest in History ! FAROOQ ABDULLAH and HIS FATHER have many times openly asserted that they have been BRAHMINS of KASHMIR. Regs, Prashant Pandey Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > When I read such ideas, I remember our young Swami Vivekananda and his > innocent guru Sri Ramkrishna Thakur, there is one eternal truth, god > loves us and I think he also feels loneliness that's why he created this > beautiful world. > > As far as jesus is concerned, When Thakur used to meditate on Jesus and > was invoking him out of love, Jesus appeared before him, innocent thakur > noticed Jesus's nose is not straight, he told this to Vivekananda. > > When Vivekananda visited Itali or perhapse germany, in a library of one > of the oldest church, he found similar portrait of Jesus with skewed > nose. > > Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is > governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives > courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > > This is bharat varsha, let's not judge it's life on the basis of > vimshottari dashas based on 15'th august's horoscope, bharat existed > before 15'th august. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > belongs. > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > >  > > Prashant_jee, > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > GANDHI! > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > a salable product! > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > Best wishes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > matter. > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > a " Nice Soul " . > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > Rishi. > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > openly share > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > doing > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > also become > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > correctly, > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > happened > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > says once > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > powers bt > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > blocking > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > imbalance > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > there > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > transit near > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > and he has > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > financial condns > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th and > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > feeling > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > those > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > for > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > but it > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > at same > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > there is > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > about > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > those > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > 12'th > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > major > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > , from > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > and so > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > and > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > sign of > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > to me, > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > but ppl > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > combination > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > Vaidik > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > even from > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > says she > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > about to > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > high > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > concepts of > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > only see > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > talking > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > 10 - 12 > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > embark on > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > went into > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > I told > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > this was > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > i have > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > reappear. > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > imp > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > you > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > in > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Saheb ji Yeah I know. My wisdom tooth had to be removed. (I dont know why it is called as such.) At that time this is what exactly happend. I felt the brim of the glass was broken when I tried to drink water. A strange feeling. Still it is in my vivid memory. C.S. Ravindramani On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:17 PM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > Gopi ji, > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no windows > or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality coming to your > senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time transduction city! > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming information will > be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe directly > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. If you > have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your mouth -- > when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you would get the > distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > RR > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Ravindramani ji, See! You are such a lot wiser now that you have gotten rid of that third molar 'dead weight' that is not good for anything (other than perhaps for the dentist's bank-balance!). Returning to astrology: That is why I have always maintained that astrological interpretations should use a 'matrix approach' because it helps rule out confounders! Even though your lips were telling you that the glass was broken, your eyes (another sensory approach) were telling you that that is not the case. Or your finger using the same modality (touch) would have told you that indeed it is not broken. In astrological interpretation (reality!) too one should avoid the one factor approach which sadly many adopt. Jupiter in karkata in fifth! WOW!! Even though that jupiter may be bleeding balas due to other reasons! Anyway, I do not wish to display any audacity by preaching to this august body of great jyotishis, teachers and suchlike. Happy New Year! RR-, , " C.S. Ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Saheb ji > > Yeah I know. My wisdom tooth had to be removed. (I dont know why it is > called as such.) At that time this is what exactly happend. I felt the > brim of the glass was broken when I tried to drink water. A strange > feeling. Still it is in my vivid memory. > > C.S. Ravindramani > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:17 PM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no windows > > or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality coming to your > > senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time transduction city! > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming information will > > be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe directly > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. If you > > have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your mouth -- > > when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you would get the > > distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > RR > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Dear Sir, At the outset, I wish you a Very Very Happy New Year 2010. >>>In astrological interpretation (reality!) too one should avoid the one factor approach which sadly many adopt. Jupiter in karkata in fifth! WOW!! Even though that jupiter may be bleeding balas due to other reasons!>>> I agree. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 And please do not forget about item (F) FOOD! Indian cuisine had been and is probably influencing and winning the hearts of many more worldwide than its religion, philosophy and spiritual teachings, Prashant and Lalit jees! It was a wise one who once said: The way to a man's heart is through his stomach! And women (MAs) have always known that, instinctively! Even the mightiest priest and teacher cannot refuse a lovingly prepared meal that is worthy of being offered to God of Whom, the priest is (or should be!) a human icon of! The first house after the self awakens is the 2nd house where hunger meets with resolution! Even Awataars, I believe, reached for nourishment from their Mothers, instinctively, after they were born! Hence, the IMPORTANCE of FASTING in removing the scars of Karma! Rohiniranjan , " prashant " <praspandey wrote: > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " <praspandey@> wrote: > > < Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > > > Shri Mishraji, when anybody starts his quest about following things > > A)Origin of Civilizations > B)Origin of Religious Thoughts > C)Religious Tolerance > D)Origin of Language > E)Origin of Mathematics and Astronomy > > then after a long search person starts developing HATRED or DEEP-LOVE to only and only to Southern side of Himalayan. Why?? Because his search stucks only and only to this region. And " INDO " word has been and will always be hot word for entire world till the life will thrive on this earth. > > Mishraji this part has been super power in Millennia BCEs and now again things have started rolling in its favor automatically and power is again going to shift to China or India, but all want that everything should go in favor of India because of Indian's glorious past of tolerance. But same TOLERANCE has been biggest set back as Britishers, Dutch took benefit of it and colonized India and Indians remained innocent. And i don't have to speak about a dragon which took birth in 7'th Cent AD and everybody knows about that.... > > But the ppl , whom that dragon devoured , now say that they have been purest form of Brahmins of India. > > Pakistanis and Afghanis have been one of the purest Brahmins but tragedy is that, dragon has converted them and now they want that THEIR OWN ANCESTOR'S glorious past should be buried. > > But, Good news is, now those ppl have started taken interest in History ! > > FAROOQ ABDULLAH and HIS FATHER have many times openly asserted that they have been BRAHMINS of KASHMIR. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > When I read such ideas, I remember our young Swami Vivekananda and his > > innocent guru Sri Ramkrishna Thakur, there is one eternal truth, god > > loves us and I think he also feels loneliness that's why he created this > > beautiful world. > > > > As far as jesus is concerned, When Thakur used to meditate on Jesus and > > was invoking him out of love, Jesus appeared before him, innocent thakur > > noticed Jesus's nose is not straight, he told this to Vivekananda. > > > > When Vivekananda visited Itali or perhapse germany, in a library of one > > of the oldest church, he found similar portrait of Jesus with skewed > > nose. > > > > Pls take it very deep when I say India is a divine land, a land which is > > governed by Jup and Mars, this is a land which nestles truth and gives > > courage to protect truth, it loves truth. > > > > This is bharat varsha, let's not judge it's life on the basis of > > vimshottari dashas based on 15'th august's horoscope, bharat existed > > before 15'th august. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " prashant " > > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. When > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that I have > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - traditional > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I know > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every thing is > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, when > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when Authorship > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a word?) to > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the way they > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered Gospel > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels of Luke, > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse since > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be accepted by > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if they want > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these questions, > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul is > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where it > > belongs. > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > >  > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last decade: > > GANDHI! > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are creating > > a salable product! > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we have > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is none or > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would like to > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly about this > > matter. > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana (19:28-30) > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of proper > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one attains > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the solar > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one site, > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody see > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and which is > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of archaeologist in > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . Archaeologists > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched since > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea scrolls " and > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of Qumran > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy Bible is > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that region , > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below :- > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the soul and > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of their > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by 80-90% > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic in nature > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them according to > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community know this > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was also > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra God) and > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over Europe > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and sentiments in > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made teachings of > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there is > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century AD. > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ teachings but > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been completely > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are abusing > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. David > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same category. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus in > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it gives > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about " His > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible carefully > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is primarily a > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the theory of > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more than just > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely Vaidik and he > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was near > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also says > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was done by > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it is > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from Iraq and > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in near > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC Dharma > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by Vaidik > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name of that > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of Atri > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and recently > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and name of > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's eye is > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha Ha… > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also like it > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian ground). > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has contradicted > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. Now > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of Sumerians > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a King > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he was, he > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the Ashura > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of Atri > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and he was > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because you > > openly share > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's begin > > doing > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people can > > also become > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense power of > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I remember > > correctly, > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, he once > > happened > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, wikipedica > > says once > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some psychic > > powers bt > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and Ke are > > blocking > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is complete > > imbalance > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the same in 12 > > there > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming Sa > > transit near > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his predictions > > and he has > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > financial condns > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " prashant " > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th and > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would be > > feeling > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some spirits but > > those > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those are in > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play main role > > for > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th and 12'th > > but it > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is near about > > at same > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + Ve so > > there is > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to predict > > about > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd otherwise > > those > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his 8'th, > > 12'th > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be feeling > > major > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine or 7'th > > , from > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole happenings > > and so > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life of native > > and > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found the > > sign of > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those details > > to me, > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 years old > > but ppl > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some same > > combination > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but follows > > Vaidik > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no relative > > even from > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. And she > > says she > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person just > > about to > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic abilities of > > high > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > concepts of > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during prediction and > > only see > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how those are > > talking > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " litsol " > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no gurus, no > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but in next > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we can > > embark on > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one who > > went into > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to Mokscha, > > I told > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or untrue, > > this was > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ s.com , > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts mind as > > i have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any problem. > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and again > > reappear. > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always send your > > imp > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your group even > > you > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving membership > > in > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hmm... In that case Gopi_ji, You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be given away and shared! Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does not work positively for you! But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my thoughts or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or anywhere else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence day of my current reality! Your choice! Rohiniranjan , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Rohini ji, > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i sincerely asked > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not > explain in words..... > -gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality coming > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > transduction city! > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming information > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe directly > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. If > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you would > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > RR-, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though Reality > may > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality of > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is in > front > > > and also everywhere... > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables > one > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. > When > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that > I > > > have > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - > > > traditional > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I > know > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every > thing is > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, > > > when > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when > > > Authorship > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a > word?) > > > to > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the > way > > > they > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered > > > Gospel > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels > of > > > Luke, > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse > > > since > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be > > > accepted by > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if > they > > > want > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > questions, > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul > is > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where > it > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last > decade: > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are > > > creating > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we > have > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is > > > none or > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ > > > ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about > " His > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > > > carefully > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > primarily a > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > > > theory of > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more > than > > > just > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would > like > > > to > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly > about > > > this > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have > > > established > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse > of > > > proper > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one > > > attains > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the > solar > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of > all > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful > words, > > > by > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one > should > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one > > > site, > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody > see > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and > which > > > is > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > archaeologist in > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > > > Archaeologists > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched > > > since > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > scrolls " > > > and > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of > Qumran > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy > Bible > > > is > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that > region > > > , > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the > soul > > > and > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of > their > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by > 80-90% > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic > in > > > nature > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them > according > > > to > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community > know > > > this > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was > also > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra > God) > > > and > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over > Europe > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > sentiments > > > in > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made > > > teachings of > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there > is > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ > teachings > > > but > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been > > > completely > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are > abusing > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. > David > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus > in > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it > > > gives > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about > > > " His > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > > > carefully > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > primarily a > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > > > theory of > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more > than > > > just > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " prashant " > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely > Vaidik > > > and he > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was > near > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also > > > says > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was > > > done by > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it > is > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from > Iraq > > > and > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in > near > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC > > > Dharma > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by > Vaidik > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name > of > > > that > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of > Atri > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and > > > recently > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and > name of > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's > eye > > > is > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also > like it > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has > > > contradicted > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. > Now > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > Sumerians > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a > King > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he > was, > > > he > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the > Ashura > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of > > > Atri > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and > he > > > was > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because > you > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's > > > begin > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people > can > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense > power > > > of > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I > > > remember > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, > he > > > once > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, > wikipedica > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > years > > > old > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some > same > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some > > > psychic > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and > Ke > > > are > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is > complete > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the > same > > > in 12 > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming > Sa > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his > > > predictions > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > his > > > 8'th, > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > feeling > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his > > > 8'th, > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would > be > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some > spirits > > > but > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those > are > > > in > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play > main > > > role > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th > and > > > 12'th > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is > near > > > about > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + > Ve > > > so > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to > > > predict > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd > > > otherwise > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > his > > > 8'th, > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > feeling > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine > or > > > 7'th > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole > > > happenings > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life > of > > > native > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found > the > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those > > > details > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > years > > > old > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some > same > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but > follows > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no > relative > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. > And > > > she > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person > just > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic > abilities > > > of > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > prediction > > > and > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how > those > > > are > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but > in > > > next > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we > can > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one > who > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to > > > Mokscha, > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or > untrue, > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ > s.com > > > , > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts > mind > > > as > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and > again > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always > send > > > your > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your > group > > > even > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving > > > membership > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 RR ji, //Your choice!// I have no choice wat so ever,but your wish.... in fact as you might have seen i have removed the post to edit.At that moment the power was off.What choice i have had?My life goes on in SURRENDER not by choice(so called). My post was supposed to be read//ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i sincerely/seriously asked myself LONG AGO why i should think what others want me to think the whole thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not explain in words..... probably and astrologically Sat exalted/vargottama in 2nd aspd by jup from 10th have had to do something about it along with 2nd lord with ketu..... -gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Hmm... > > In that case Gopi_ji, > > You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! > > Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be given away and shared! > > Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does not work positively for you! > > But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my thoughts or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or anywhere else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence day of my current reality! > > Your choice! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i sincerely asked > > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not > > explain in words..... > > -gopi. > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no > > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality coming > > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > > transduction city! > > > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming information > > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe directly > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. If > > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your > > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you would > > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > > > RR-, > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though Reality > > may > > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality of > > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is in > > front > > > > and also everywhere... > > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > > gopi. > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that enables > > one > > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and boring. > > When > > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing that > > I > > > > have > > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - > > > > traditional > > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, I > > know > > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and trials, > > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every > > thing is > > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as these, > > > > when > > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when > > > > Authorship > > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really a > > word?) > > > > to > > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie the > > way > > > > they > > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly discovered > > > > Gospel > > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal Gospels > > of > > > > Luke, > > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. Ofcourse > > > > since > > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be > > > > accepted by > > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if > > they > > > > want > > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > > questions, > > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every Soul > > is > > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to where > > it > > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " and > > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last > > decade: > > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they are > > > > creating > > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as we > > have > > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If there is > > > > none or > > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " <praspandey@ > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment about > > " His > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > > > > carefully > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > primarily a > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > > > > theory of > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more > > than > > > > just > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and would > > like > > > > to > > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more clearly > > about > > > > this > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana > > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have > > > > established > > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad > > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse > > of > > > > proper > > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names one > > > > attains > > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all > > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the > > solar > > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of > > all > > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful > > words, > > > > by > > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one > > should > > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from one > > > > site, > > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl everybody > > see > > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and > > which > > > > is > > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > > archaeologist in > > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > > > > Archaeologists > > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain untouched > > > > since > > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > > scrolls " > > > > and > > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community of > > Qumran > > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of Holy > > Bible > > > > is > > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that > > region > > > > , > > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as below > > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of the > > soul > > > > and > > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part of > > their > > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by > > 80-90% > > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely Vaidic > > in > > > > nature > > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them > > according > > > > to > > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN Community > > know > > > > this > > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was > > also > > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of Mithras(Mitra > > God) > > > > and > > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over > > Europe > > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > > sentiments > > > > in > > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made > > > > teachings of > > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that there > > is > > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th Century > > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ > > teachings > > > > but > > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been > > > > completely > > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are > > abusing > > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. > > David > > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same > > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie " Jesus > > in > > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday and it > > > > gives > > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment about > > > > " His > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the Bible > > > > carefully > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > primarily a > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and the > > > > theory of > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much more > > than > > > > just > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " prashant " > > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely > > Vaidik > > > > and he > > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he was > > near > > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible also > > > > says > > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which was > > > > done by > > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and it > > is > > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings from > > Iraq > > > > and > > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings in > > near > > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was VEDIC > > > > Dharma > > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced by > > Vaidik > > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the name > > of > > > > that > > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name of > > Atri > > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization and > > > > recently > > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and > > name of > > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). Everbody's > > eye > > > > is > > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also > > like it > > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on Mesopotamian > > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the name of > > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has > > > > contradicted > > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied in > > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of Sumerians. > > Now > > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > > Sumerians > > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was a > > King > > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who he > > was, > > > > he > > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans (Persians, > > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the > > Ashura > > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were descendant of > > > > Atri > > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) and > > he > > > > was > > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > " litsol " > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis because > > you > > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, let's > > > > begin > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other people > > can > > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives immense > > power > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I > > > > remember > > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about India, > > he > > > > once > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, > > wikipedica > > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > > years > > > > old > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some > > same > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has some > > > > psychic > > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma and > > Ke > > > > are > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is > > complete > > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at the > > same > > > > in 12 > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and coming > > Sa > > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his > > > > predictions > > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His family's > > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > > his > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > feeling > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing his > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native would > > be > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some > > spirits > > > > but > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and those > > are > > > > in > > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play > > main > > > > role > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly 8'th > > and > > > > 12'th > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is > > near > > > > about > > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of Sa + > > Ve > > > > so > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough to > > > > predict > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in 2'nd > > > > otherwise > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > > his > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > feeling > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in trine > > or > > > > 7'th > > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole > > > > happenings > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away life > > of > > > > native > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives found > > the > > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give those > > > > details > > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > > years > > > > old > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). Some > > same > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but > > follows > > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no > > relative > > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi movies. > > And > > > > she > > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when person > > just > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic > > abilities > > > > of > > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate the > > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > > prediction > > > > and > > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see how > > those > > > > are > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, no > > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day but > > in > > > > next > > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then we > > can > > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was one > > who > > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages of > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one to > > > > Mokscha, > > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or > > untrue, > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe aling@ > > s.com > > > > , > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it diverts > > mind > > > > as > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have any > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group and > > again > > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz always > > send > > > > your > > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your > > group > > > > even > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving > > > > membership > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Dear Gopiji! SURRENDER is the most difficult and ABSOLUTELY THE SUPREME CHOICE! If we were not such hard-nosed, hard-headed bunch here on Internet, by now you would have found an idol of yours created on this highway and the gaon-walas arriving daily to pay homage to you! I am hardly what you may consider as a jyotishi or even scholar but I would urge all beginners to pay attention to Saturn! High or Low, weak or strong -- It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in KPC! Earning is KARM's dhan while KARM is where one invests earnings, sometimes to lose! The 10-11 thing in standard jyotish! Rohiniranjan , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > RR ji, > //Your choice!// > I have no choice wat so ever,but your wish.... > in fact as you might have seen i have removed the post to edit.At that > moment the power was off.What choice i have had?My life goes on in > SURRENDER not by choice(so called). > My post was supposed to be read//ha..ha...the problem is i dont > think(like others).When i sincerely/seriously asked myself LONG AGO why > i should think what others want me to think the whole thinking almost > gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not explain in > words..... > probably and astrologically Sat exalted/vargottama in 2nd aspd by jup > from 10th have had to do something about it along with 2nd lord with > ketu..... > -gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > Hmm... > > > > In that case Gopi_ji, > > > > You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! > > > > Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be > given away and shared! > > > > Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does not > work positively for you! > > > > But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my thoughts > or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or anywhere > else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence day > of my current reality! > > > > Your choice! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i sincerely > asked > > > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > > > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can > not > > > explain in words..... > > > -gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no > > > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality > coming > > > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > > > transduction city! > > > > > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming > information > > > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe > directly > > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. > If > > > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your > > > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you > would > > > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > > > > > RR-, > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though > Reality > > > may > > > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality > of > > > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is > in > > > front > > > > > and also everywhere... > > > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > > > gopi. > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that > enables > > > one > > > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > gopi_b927@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and > boring. > > > When > > > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing > that > > > I > > > > > have > > > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, > I > > > know > > > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and > trials, > > > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every > > > thing is > > > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as > these, > > > > > when > > > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when > > > > > Authorship > > > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really > a > > > word?) > > > > > to > > > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie > the > > > way > > > > > they > > > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly > discovered > > > > > Gospel > > > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal > Gospels > > > of > > > > > Luke, > > > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. > Ofcourse > > > > > since > > > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be > > > > > accepted by > > > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if > > > they > > > > > want > > > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > > > questions, > > > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every > Soul > > > is > > > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to > where > > > it > > > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " > and > > > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last > > > decade: > > > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they > are > > > > > creating > > > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as > we > > > have > > > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If > there is > > > > > none or > > > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' > either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " > <praspandey@ > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment > about > > > " His > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > Bible > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > primarily a > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and > the > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > more > > > than > > > > > just > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and > would > > > like > > > > > to > > > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more > clearly > > > about > > > > > this > > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana > > > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have > > > > > established > > > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and > bad > > > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking > recourse > > > of > > > > > proper > > > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names > one > > > > > attains > > > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from > all > > > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of > the > > > solar > > > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts > of > > > all > > > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful > > > words, > > > > > by > > > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one > > > should > > > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from > one > > > > > site, > > > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl > everybody > > > see > > > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > > > archaeologist in > > > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > > > > > Archaeologists > > > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain > untouched > > > > > since > > > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > > > scrolls " > > > > > and > > > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community > of > > > Qumran > > > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of > Holy > > > Bible > > > > > is > > > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that > > > region > > > > > , > > > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as > below > > > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of > the > > > soul > > > > > and > > > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part > of > > > their > > > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. > " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by > > > 80-90% > > > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik > rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely > Vaidic > > > in > > > > > nature > > > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them > > > according > > > > > to > > > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN > Community > > > know > > > > > this > > > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was > > > also > > > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of > Mithras(Mitra > > > God) > > > > > and > > > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over > > > Europe > > > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > > > sentiments > > > > > in > > > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made > > > > > teachings of > > > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that > there > > > is > > > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th > Century > > > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ > > > teachings > > > > > but > > > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been > > > > > completely > > > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are > > > abusing > > > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. > > > David > > > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same > > > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie > " Jesus > > > in > > > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday > and it > > > > > gives > > > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment > about > > > > > " His > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > Bible > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > primarily a > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and > the > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > more > > > than > > > > > just > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely > > > Vaidik > > > > > and he > > > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he > was > > > near > > > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible > also > > > > > says > > > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which > was > > > > > done by > > > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and > it > > > is > > > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings > from > > > Iraq > > > > > and > > > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings > in > > > near > > > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was > VEDIC > > > > > Dharma > > > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced > by > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of > ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the > name > > > of > > > > > that > > > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name > of > > > Atri > > > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization > and > > > > > recently > > > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and > > > name of > > > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). > Everbody's > > > eye > > > > > is > > > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also > > > like it > > > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on > Mesopotamian > > > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the > name of > > > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has > > > > > contradicted > > > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied > in > > > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of > Sumerians. > > > Now > > > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > > > Sumerians > > > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was > a > > > King > > > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who > he > > > was, > > > > > he > > > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans > (Persians, > > > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the > > > Ashura > > > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were > descendant of > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) > and > > > he > > > > > was > > > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of > Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis > because > > > you > > > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, > let's > > > > > begin > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other > people > > > can > > > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives > immense > > > power > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I > > > > > remember > > > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about > India, > > > he > > > > > once > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, > > > wikipedica > > > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > > > years > > > > > old > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). > Some > > > same > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has > some > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma > and > > > Ke > > > > > are > > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is > > > complete > > > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at > the > > > same > > > > > in 12 > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and > coming > > > Sa > > > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his > > > > > predictions > > > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His > family's > > > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > crossing > > > his > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > > feeling > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > his > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native > would > > > be > > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some > > > spirits > > > > > but > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and > those > > > are > > > > > in > > > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play > > > main > > > > > role > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly > 8'th > > > and > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is > > > near > > > > > about > > > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of > Sa + > > > Ve > > > > > so > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough > to > > > > > predict > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in > 2'nd > > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > crossing > > > his > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > > feeling > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in > trine > > > or > > > > > 7'th > > > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole > > > > > happenings > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away > life > > > of > > > > > native > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives > found > > > the > > > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give > those > > > > > details > > > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just > 25 > > > years > > > > > old > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). > Some > > > same > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but > > > follows > > > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no > > > relative > > > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi > movies. > > > And > > > > > she > > > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when > person > > > just > > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic > > > abilities > > > > > of > > > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate > the > > > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > > > prediction > > > > > and > > > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see > how > > > those > > > > > are > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, > no > > > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day > but > > > in > > > > > next > > > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then > we > > > can > > > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was > one > > > who > > > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages > of > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one > to > > > > > Mokscha, > > > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or > > > untrue, > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > > > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe > aling@ > > > s.com > > > > > , > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it > diverts > > > mind > > > > > as > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have > any > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group > and > > > again > > > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > > > > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz > always > > > send > > > > > your > > > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your > > > group > > > > > even > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving > > > > > membership > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Dear Rohini ji, // It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in KPC! Earning is KARM's dhanwhile KARM is where one invests earnings, sometimes to lose! The 10-11 thing instandard jyotish!// i always lose.Can you please elaborate?KPC?... regards, gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Gopiji! > > SURRENDER is the most difficult and ABSOLUTELY THE SUPREME CHOICE! If we were not such hard-nosed, hard-headed bunch here on Internet, by now you would have found an idol of yours created on this highway and the gaon-walas arriving daily to pay homage to you! > > I am hardly what you may consider as a jyotishi or even scholar but I would urge all beginners to pay attention to Saturn! High or Low, weak or strong -- It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in KPC! Earning is KARM's dhan while KARM is where one invests earnings, sometimes to lose! The 10-11 thing in standard jyotish! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > RR ji, > > //Your choice!// > > I have no choice wat so ever,but your wish.... > > in fact as you might have seen i have removed the post to edit.At that > > moment the power was off.What choice i have had?My life goes on in > > SURRENDER not by choice(so called). > > My post was supposed to be read//ha..ha...the problem is i dont > > think(like others).When i sincerely/seriously asked myself LONG AGO why > > i should think what others want me to think the whole thinking almost > > gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not explain in > > words..... > > probably and astrologically Sat exalted/vargottama in 2nd aspd by jup > > from 10th have had to do something about it along with 2nd lord with > > ketu..... > > -gopi. > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hmm... > > > > > > In that case Gopi_ji, > > > > > > You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! > > > > > > Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be > > given away and shared! > > > > > > Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does not > > work positively for you! > > > > > > But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my thoughts > > or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or anywhere > > else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence day > > of my current reality! > > > > > > Your choice! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i sincerely > > asked > > > > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > > > > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can > > not > > > > explain in words..... > > > > -gopi. > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane with no > > > > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality > > coming > > > > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > > > > transduction city! > > > > > > > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming > > information > > > > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > > > > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe > > directly > > > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very easily. > > If > > > > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized your > > > > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, you > > would > > > > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > > > > > > > RR-, > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though > > Reality > > > > may > > > > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The duality > > of > > > > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it is > > in > > > > front > > > > > > and also everywhere... > > > > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that > > enables > > > > one > > > > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > gopi_b927@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and > > boring. > > > > When > > > > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some thing > > that > > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that - > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a living, > > I > > > > know > > > > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and > > trials, > > > > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when every > > > > thing is > > > > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such as > > these, > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, when > > > > > > Authorship > > > > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this really > > a > > > > word?) > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things lie > > the > > > > way > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly > > discovered > > > > > > Gospel > > > > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal > > Gospels > > > > of > > > > > > Luke, > > > > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. > > Ofcourse > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will not be > > > > > > accepted by > > > > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to Christians if > > > > they > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > > > > questions, > > > > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe every > > Soul > > > > is > > > > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back to > > where > > > > it > > > > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the " documentaries " > > and > > > > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the last > > > > decade: > > > > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because they > > are > > > > > > creating > > > > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down KINGDOMS as > > we > > > > have > > > > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If > > there is > > > > > > none or > > > > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' > > either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " > > <praspandey@ > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your comment > > about > > > > " His > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > Bible > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and > > the > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > more > > > > than > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and > > would > > > > like > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more > > clearly > > > > about > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya Purana > > > > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have > > > > > > established > > > > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and > > bad > > > > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking > > recourse > > > > of > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names > > one > > > > > > attains > > > > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from > > all > > > > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of > > the > > > > solar > > > > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts > > of > > > > all > > > > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful > > > > words, > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one > > > > should > > > > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation from > > one > > > > > > site, > > > > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl > > everybody > > > > see > > > > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God and > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > > > > archaeologist in > > > > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > > > > > > Archaeologists > > > > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain > > untouched > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > > > > scrolls " > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES community > > of > > > > Qumran > > > > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy of > > Holy > > > > Bible > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in that > > > > region > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are as > > below > > > > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality of > > the > > > > soul > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. Part > > of > > > > their > > > > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and storage. > > " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are written by > > > > 80-90% > > > > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik > > rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely > > Vaidic > > > > in > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote them > > > > according > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN > > Community > > > > know > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine was > > > > also > > > > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of > > Mithras(Mitra > > > > God) > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold over > > > > Europe > > > > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > > > > sentiments > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and made > > > > > > teachings of > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say that > > there > > > > is > > > > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one by > > > > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th > > Century > > > > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus Christ > > > > teachings > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has been > > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they are > > > > abusing > > > > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of WEST. > > > > David > > > > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the same > > > > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie > > " Jesus > > > > in > > > > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday > > and it > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your comment > > about > > > > > > " His > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > Bible > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching and > > the > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > more > > > > than > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > East, Direction of Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were completely > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > and he > > > > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and he > > was > > > > near > > > > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. Bible > > also > > > > > > says > > > > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one which > > was > > > > > > done by > > > > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated and > > it > > > > is > > > > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his disciple > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings > > from > > > > Iraq > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his teachings > > in > > > > near > > > > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was > > VEDIC > > > > > > Dharma > > > > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient ETRUSCAN > > > > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was influenced > > by > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of > > ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in the > > name > > > > of > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the name > > of > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan Civilization > > and > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist and > > > > name of > > > > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). > > Everbody's > > > > eye > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground also > > > > like it > > > > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on > > Mesopotamian > > > > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the > > name of > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody has > > > > > > contradicted > > > > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is copied > > in > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of > > Sumerians. > > > > Now > > > > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > > > > Sumerians > > > > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there was > > a > > > > King > > > > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell who > > he > > > > was, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans > > (Persians, > > > > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about the > > > > Ashura > > > > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were > > descendant of > > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of Ashur) > > and > > > > he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of > > Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis > > because > > > > you > > > > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every thing, > > let's > > > > > > begin > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and other > > people > > > > can > > > > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives > > immense > > > > power > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and If I > > > > > > remember > > > > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about > > India, > > > > he > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and reincarnations, > > > > wikipedica > > > > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just 25 > > > > years > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). > > Some > > > > same > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he has > > some > > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As Ma > > and > > > > Ke > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there is > > > > complete > > > > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but at > > the > > > > same > > > > > > in 12 > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and > > coming > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take his > > > > > > predictions > > > > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His > > family's > > > > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > crossing > > > > his > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just crossing > > his > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then native > > would > > > > be > > > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > s.com, > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of some > > > > spirits > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected and > > those > > > > are > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to play > > > > main > > > > > > role > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of mainly > > 8'th > > > > and > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and it is > > > > near > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before of > > Sa + > > > > Ve > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than enough > > to > > > > > > predict > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or in > > 2'nd > > > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > crossing > > > > his > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native would be > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not in > > trine > > > > or > > > > > > 7'th > > > > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing whole > > > > > > happenings > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took away > > life > > > > of > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their relatives > > found > > > > the > > > > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again give > > those > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is just > > 25 > > > > years > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his details). > > Some > > > > same > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian but > > > > follows > > > > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her no > > > > relative > > > > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi > > movies. > > > > And > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when > > person > > > > just > > > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having psychic > > > > abilities > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and validate > > the > > > > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > > > > prediction > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to see > > how > > > > those > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > s.com, > > > > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no fakes, > > no > > > > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these day > > but > > > > in > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and then > > we > > > > can > > > > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he was > > one > > > > who > > > > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded mesages > > of > > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes one > > to > > > > > > Mokscha, > > > > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - true or > > > > untrue, > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > > > > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > > > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe > > aling@ > > > > s.com > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it > > diverts > > > > mind > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont have > > any > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of group > > and > > > > again > > > > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz > > always > > > > send > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in your > > > > group > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for giving > > > > > > membership > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Gopal Ji, that might be KaramPatri .... Irrespective of the efforts we have put in, our failure or success in karma, whatever skills we have, whatever guidance have got and whatever resources and comfort we have had in life, what counts is where we reached, have we discovered our trueself ? Though, it's karma loka and kali yuga, still, let's route sunlight to saturnian hard work. Pls recall that " Ranchhor " who is also " Chitchor " , do we know that we are related to him, are we realize the inner connection to him, we all have got a godly quotient, let's capitalise on that, let's become god itself in this very life. !! So - Aham ... Tat - Sat !! regards, Utkal , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > // It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in KPC! Earning > is KARM's dhanwhile KARM is where one invests earnings, sometimes to > lose! The 10-11 thing instandard jyotish!// > i always lose.Can you please elaborate?KPC?... > regards, > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopiji! > > > > SURRENDER is the most difficult and ABSOLUTELY THE SUPREME CHOICE! If > we were not such hard-nosed, hard-headed bunch here on Internet, by now > you would have found an idol of yours created on this highway and the > gaon-walas arriving daily to pay homage to you! > > > > I am hardly what you may consider as a jyotishi or even scholar but I > would urge all beginners to pay attention to Saturn! High or Low, weak > or strong -- It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in > KPC! Earning is KARM's dhan while KARM is where one invests earnings, > sometimes to lose! The 10-11 thing in standard jyotish! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > RR ji, > > > //Your choice!// > > > I have no choice wat so ever,but your wish.... > > > in fact as you might have seen i have removed the post to edit.At > that > > > moment the power was off.What choice i have had?My life goes on in > > > SURRENDER not by choice(so called). > > > My post was supposed to be read//ha..ha...the problem is i dont > > > think(like others).When i sincerely/seriously asked myself LONG AGO > why > > > i should think what others want me to think the whole thinking > almost > > > gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not explain in > > > words..... > > > probably and astrologically Sat exalted/vargottama in 2nd aspd by > jup > > > from 10th have had to do something about it along with 2nd lord with > > > ketu..... > > > -gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm... > > > > > > > > In that case Gopi_ji, > > > > > > > > You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! > > > > > > > > Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be > > > given away and shared! > > > > > > > > Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does > not > > > work positively for you! > > > > > > > > But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my > thoughts > > > or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or > anywhere > > > else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence > day > > > of my current reality! > > > > > > > > Your choice! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i > sincerely > > > asked > > > > > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > > > > > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process > can > > > not > > > > > explain in words..... > > > > > -gopi. > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane > with no > > > > > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality > > > coming > > > > > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > > > > > transduction city! > > > > > > > > > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming > > > information > > > > > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe > > > directly > > > > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very > easily. > > > If > > > > > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized > your > > > > > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, > you > > > would > > > > > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR-, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > gopi_b927@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though > > > Reality > > > > > may > > > > > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The > duality > > > of > > > > > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it > is > > > in > > > > > front > > > > > > > and also everywhere... > > > > > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that > > > enables > > > > > one > > > > > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > gopi_b927@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and > > > boring. > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some > thing > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that > - > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a > living, > > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and > > > trials, > > > > > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when > every > > > > > thing is > > > > > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such > as > > > these, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, > when > > > > > > > Authorship > > > > > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this > really > > > a > > > > > word?) > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things > lie > > > the > > > > > way > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly > > > discovered > > > > > > > Gospel > > > > > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal > > > Gospels > > > > > of > > > > > > > Luke, > > > > > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. > > > Ofcourse > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will > not be > > > > > > > accepted by > > > > > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to > Christians if > > > > > they > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that > argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > > > > > questions, > > > > > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe > every > > > Soul > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back > to > > > where > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of > Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the > " documentaries " > > > and > > > > > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of > salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the > last > > > > > decade: > > > > > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because > they > > > are > > > > > > > creating > > > > > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down > KINGDOMS as > > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If > > > there is > > > > > > > none or > > > > > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' > > > either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your > comment > > > about > > > > > " His > > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > > Bible > > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching > and > > > the > > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and > > > would > > > > > like > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more > > > clearly > > > > > about > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya > Purana > > > > > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I > have > > > > > > > established > > > > > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good > and > > > bad > > > > > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking > > > recourse > > > > > of > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy > names > > > one > > > > > > > attains > > > > > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, > from > > > all > > > > > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord > of > > > the > > > > > solar > > > > > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the > hearts > > > of > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking > truthful > > > > > words, > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, > one > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana > 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. > htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation > from > > > one > > > > > > > site, > > > > > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl > > > everybody > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God > and > > > > > which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > > > > > archaeologist in > > > > > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) .. > > > > > > > Archaeologists > > > > > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain > > > untouched > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > > > > > scrolls " > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES > community > > > of > > > > > Qumran > > > > > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy > of > > > Holy > > > > > Bible > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in > that > > > > > region > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are > as > > > below > > > > > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality > of > > > the > > > > > soul > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. > Part > > > of > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and > storage. > > > " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are > written by > > > > > 80-90% > > > > > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik > > > rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely > > > Vaidic > > > > > in > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote > them > > > > > according > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN > > > Community > > > > > know > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine > was > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of > > > Mithras(Mitra > > > > > God) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold > over > > > > > Europe > > > > > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > > > > > sentiments > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and > made > > > > > > > teachings of > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say > that > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one > by > > > > > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th > > > Century > > > > > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus > Christ > > > > > teachings > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has > been > > > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they > are > > > > > abusing > > > > > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of > WEST. > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the > same > > > > > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj > Chandran > > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie > > > " Jesus > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday > > > and it > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your > comment > > > about > > > > > > > " His > > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > > Bible > > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching > and > > > the > > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > East, Direction of > Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were > completely > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > and he > > > > > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and > he > > > was > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. > Bible > > > also > > > > > > > says > > > > > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one > which > > > was > > > > > > > done by > > > > > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated > and > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his > disciple > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings > > > from > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his > teachings > > > in > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was > > > VEDIC > > > > > > > Dharma > > > > > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient > ETRUSCAN > > > > > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was > influenced > > > by > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of > > > ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in > the > > > name > > > > > of > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the > name > > > of > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan > Civilization > > > and > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist > and > > > > > name of > > > > > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). > > > Everbody's > > > > > eye > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > > > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground > also > > > > > like it > > > > > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on > > > Mesopotamian > > > > > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the > > > name of > > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody > has > > > > > > > contradicted > > > > > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is > copied > > > in > > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of > > > Sumerians. > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > > > > > Sumerians > > > > > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there > was > > > a > > > > > King > > > > > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell > who > > > he > > > > > was, > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans > > > (Persians, > > > > > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about > the > > > > > Ashura > > > > > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were > > > descendant of > > > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of > Ashur) > > > and > > > > > he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of > > > Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis > > > because > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every > thing, > > > let's > > > > > > > begin > > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and > other > > > people > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives > > > immense > > > > > power > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and > If I > > > > > > > remember > > > > > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about > > > India, > > > > > he > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and > reincarnations, > > > > > wikipedica > > > > > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just > 25 > > > > > years > > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his > details). > > > Some > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he > has > > > some > > > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As > Ma > > > and > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there > is > > > > > complete > > > > > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but > at > > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > in 12 > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and > > > coming > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take > his > > > > > > > predictions > > > > > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His > > > family's > > > > > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > > crossing > > > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native > would be > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > crossing > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then > native > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > > s.com, > > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of > some > > > > > spirits > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected > and > > > those > > > > > are > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to > play > > > > > main > > > > > > > role > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of > mainly > > > 8'th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and > it is > > > > > near > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before > of > > > Sa + > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than > enough > > > to > > > > > > > predict > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or > in > > > 2'nd > > > > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > > crossing > > > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native > would be > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not > in > > > trine > > > > > or > > > > > > > 7'th > > > > > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing > whole > > > > > > > happenings > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took > away > > > life > > > > > of > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their > relatives > > > found > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again > give > > > those > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is > just > > > 25 > > > > > years > > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his > details). > > > Some > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian > but > > > > > follows > > > > > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her > no > > > > > relative > > > > > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi > > > movies. > > > > > And > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when > > > person > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having > psychic > > > > > abilities > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and > validate > > > the > > > > > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to > see > > > how > > > > > those > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > aling@ > > > s.com, > > > > > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no > fakes, > > > no > > > > > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these > day > > > but > > > > > in > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and > then > > > we > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he > was > > > one > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded > mesages > > > of > > > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ > experiences/ > > > > > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ > Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ > Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes > one > > > to > > > > > > > Mokscha, > > > > > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - > true or > > > > > untrue, > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > > > > > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > aling@ > > > > > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe > > > aling@ > > > > > s.com > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it > > > diverts > > > > > mind > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont > have > > > any > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of > group > > > and > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz > > > always > > > > > send > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good > > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in > your > > > > > group > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for > giving > > > > > > > membership > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Gopi_dada, Regardless of your biological age, you sound like a wise elder brother hence I am taking the liberty of addressing you as Dada! What I wrote or always write is very ordinary jyotish and nothing fancy. And, surrender is never a loss! It is a very deliberate and powerful act of FREE-WILL that we human beings have been given as our most potent KAVACH of eternal security! I TRULY Believe in that for I HAVE personally experienced how powerful SURRENDER can be! My purpose in participating in these forums is not to get a 'rise', nor to attract clients or chelas or to plump my feathers, or to beat up on others! My goal also is not to elevate Jyotish from where it is to where I feel it should be! There are many others who have chosen to bear that cross and kudos to them! As I promised you, God-willing, I will tell you come July 2010. Right now, even if I describe, explain, my words will not mean anything to you or not penetrate! Please trust my judgment on this matter :-) Rohiniranjan , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > // It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in KPC! Earning > is KARM's dhanwhile KARM is where one invests earnings, sometimes to > lose! The 10-11 thing instandard jyotish!// > i always lose.Can you please elaborate?KPC?... > regards, > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopiji! > > > > SURRENDER is the most difficult and ABSOLUTELY THE SUPREME CHOICE! If > we were not such hard-nosed, hard-headed bunch here on Internet, by now > you would have found an idol of yours created on this highway and the > gaon-walas arriving daily to pay homage to you! > > > > I am hardly what you may consider as a jyotishi or even scholar but I > would urge all beginners to pay attention to Saturn! High or Low, weak > or strong -- It has a strong-hold on the two most important houses in > KPC! Earning is KARM's dhan while KARM is where one invests earnings, > sometimes to lose! The 10-11 thing in standard jyotish! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > RR ji, > > > //Your choice!// > > > I have no choice wat so ever,but your wish.... > > > in fact as you might have seen i have removed the post to edit.At > that > > > moment the power was off.What choice i have had?My life goes on in > > > SURRENDER not by choice(so called). > > > My post was supposed to be read//ha..ha...the problem is i dont > > > think(like others).When i sincerely/seriously asked myself LONG AGO > why > > > i should think what others want me to think the whole thinking > almost > > > gone and LIVING began which the thinking process can not explain in > > > words..... > > > probably and astrologically Sat exalted/vargottama in 2nd aspd by > jup > > > from 10th have had to do something about it along with 2nd lord with > > > ketu..... > > > -gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm... > > > > > > > > In that case Gopi_ji, > > > > > > > > You should stop asking but switch to telling and sharing! > > > > > > > > Sharing with all what arrives at your soul and which is but to be > > > given away and shared! > > > > > > > > Try this for six months and then come back and FRAP me if it does > not > > > work positively for you! > > > > > > > > But no contact at all for the next six months with me or my > thoughts > > > or reading or responding to my postings and messages here or > anywhere > > > else -- until oh let us say First of July 2010 -- the independence > day > > > of my current reality! > > > > > > > > Your choice! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > > ha..ha...the problem is i dont think(like others).When i > sincerely > > > asked > > > > > myself why i should think what others want me to think the whole > > > > > thinking almost gone and LIVING began which the thinking process > can > > > not > > > > > explain in words..... > > > > > -gopi. > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Think of yourself as a jet-pilot in the cockpit of a plane > with no > > > > > windows or a security person in the monitoring room. All reality > > > coming > > > > > to your senses through scopes, monitors and gauges! Big time > > > > > transduction city! > > > > > > > > > > > > If the scopes are not well-tuned and clean, the in-coming > > > information > > > > > will be garbled and give a false sense of reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Think for a second, even your five senses that you believe > > > directly > > > > > interact with reality is an illusion and can get fooled very > easily. > > > If > > > > > you have ever had to go to a dentist and he or she anesthetized > your > > > > > mouth -- when afterwards you tried to drink water from a cup, > you > > > would > > > > > get the distinct feeling that the edge of the cup was broken! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR-, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > gopi_b927@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also a good one!!...one cant fix 'scope' for REALITY though > > > Reality > > > > > may > > > > > > > be in the perception.May be that makes a difference.The > duality > > > of > > > > > > > differerence is also REALITY.....I dont seek IT because it > is > > > in > > > > > front > > > > > > > and also everywhere... > > > > > > > HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REALITY SHALL ALWAYS BE IN THE PERCEPTION! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't seek REALITY, before you have fixed the 'Scope' that > > > enables > > > > > one > > > > > > > to have PERCEPTION ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > gopi_b927@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > > //I believe every Soul is inherently Divine and WILL > > > > > > > > > eventually find its way back to where it belongs. > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles.// > > > > > > > > > good one indeed.... > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are not Exciting - but more traditional and > > > boring. > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > commenting about a religion that is not mine and some > thing > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > not researched thoroughly, I prefer to be just that > - > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > and boring. As some one who does research R & D for a > living, > > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > that even after carefully controlled experiments and > > > trials, > > > > > > > > > Engineers and Scientists go wrong. All this even when > every > > > > > thing is > > > > > > > > > painfully and thoroughly documented. In Cases such > as > > > these, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > the " said events " have happened thousands of years ago, > when > > > > > > > Authorship > > > > > > > > > of documents is not easily attributable (is this > really > > > a > > > > > word?) > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the legitimate owner, it may be prudent to let things > lie > > > the > > > > > way > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > are. Ofcourse, just my boring opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You indeed have raised some valid points. The newly > > > discovered > > > > > > > Gospel > > > > > > > > > of Thomas is indeed quite different from the traditonal > > > Gospels > > > > > of > > > > > > > Luke, > > > > > > > > > Mark etc. It gives quite a different view of Jesus. > > > Ofcourse > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > they have not been sactioned by the Church, they will > not be > > > > > > > accepted by > > > > > > > > > traditional Chistianity. So it is really up to > Christians if > > > > > they > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > to research that more. Thats where I leave that > argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But ultimately I don't put much emotions in to these > > > > > questions, > > > > > > > > > because from my simplistic point of view, I believe > every > > > Soul > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > inherently Divine and WILL eventually find its way back > to > > > where > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nothing Real Can Be Threatened, > > > > > > > > > > Nothing Unreal Exists, > > > > > > > > > > Therein Lies The Peace of God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -A Course in Miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, December 28, 2009 8:44:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: East, Direction of > Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Prashant_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " Mayavini " realm of movies (even the > " documentaries " > > > and > > > > > > > > > 'docu-dramas' ) must always be taken with a 'pinch of > salt!' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you have seen the BLOCKBUSTER movie of the > last > > > > > decade: > > > > > > > > > GANDHI! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Movie-makers always have a creative license because > they > > > are > > > > > > > creating > > > > > > > > > a salable product! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SALT is not inconsequential! It can bring down > KINGDOMS as > > > we > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > seen! And it completely destroys appetite and taste! If > > > there is > > > > > > > none or > > > > > > > > > even if there is too much! And not good for 'plumbing' > > > either!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant " > > > <praspandey@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < However, I have to disagree with your > comment > > > about > > > > > " His > > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > > Bible > > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching > and > > > the > > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to get your so EXCITING - VIEWS, and > > > would > > > > > like > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > say THANK YOU for giving me opportunity to write more > > > clearly > > > > > about > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to firstly take quotes from Bhavisya > Purana > > > > > > > (19:28-30) > > > > > > > > > about Jesus Christ to put here . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " mlecchasa sthapito dharmo maya tacchrnu bhupate > > > > > > > > > > > manasam nirmalam krtva malam dehe subhasubham > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naigamam japamasthaya japeta nirmalam param > > > > > > > > > > > nyayena satyavacasaa manasyaikena manavah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dhyanena pujayedisam surya-mandala- samsthitam > > > > > > > > > > > acaloyam prabhuh sakshat- atha suryocalah sada " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of above VERSES are as below :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I > have > > > > > > > established > > > > > > > > > among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good > and > > > bad > > > > > > > > > contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking > > > recourse > > > > > of > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy > names > > > one > > > > > > > attains > > > > > > > > > the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, > from > > > all > > > > > > > > > directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord > of > > > the > > > > > solar > > > > > > > > > region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the > hearts > > > of > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking > truthful > > > > > words, > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, > one > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana > 19:27-30.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link is below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salagram .net/Jesus- Went-To-India. > htm#You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken those above VERSES and its translation > from > > > one > > > > > > > site, > > > > > > > > > so no manipulation from my-side in translation. Now pl > > > everybody > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > that according to the VERSES Jesus has talked of Sun-God > and > > > > > which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the main God of Rig-Vaidik Aryans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we should also look into recent findings of > > > > > archaeologist in > > > > > > > > > QUMRAN Region ie near to Northern of DEAD-SEA(Jordan) . > > > > > > > Archaeologists > > > > > > > > > have found some documents there which have been remain > > > untouched > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > 300 BCE and those documents were called as " The Dead Sea > > > > > scrolls " > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > those are basically " Hebrew Bible " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those were written by the priests of ESSENES > community > > > of > > > > > Qumran > > > > > > > > > region ie " Teacher of Righteousness " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting things is that some running philosophy > of > > > Holy > > > > > Bible > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > just opposite of old Testament which have been found in > that > > > > > region > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > and some beliefs and theology from that HOLY BIBLE are > as > > > below > > > > > :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Their theology included belief in the immortality > of > > > the > > > > > soul > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > that they would receive their souls back after death. > Part > > > of > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > activities included purification by water rituals, > > > > > > > > > > > which was supported by rainwater catchment and > storage. > > > " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not manipulated above views, those are > written by > > > > > 80-90% > > > > > > > > > scholars who studied it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And above written lines conatin, basically Vaidik > > > rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already said that Bible teachings were completely > > > Vaidic > > > > > in > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > but later Romans with Greeks, perverted it and wrote > them > > > > > according > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > their will. And now the many scholars from CHRISTIAN > > > Community > > > > > know > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > and give abuses to VATICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Roman ruler of 4'th century AD ie Constantine > was > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > totally under influence of Vaidik tradition ie of > > > Mithras(Mitra > > > > > God) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Sun God but St Paul changed the Bible just to get hold > over > > > > > Europe > > > > > > > > > according to their theology of meat eating, no soul and > > > > > sentiments > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > animals and no incarnation theory related to KARMA and > made > > > > > > > teachings of > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ illogical as the ppl who read Bible say > that > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > strong gap in views of Gospels of Jesus(Manipulated one > by > > > > > > > > > Romans+Greeks) which have been posed by Romans in 4'th > > > Century > > > > > AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They (Vaticans) not only manipulated the Jesus > Christ > > > > > teachings > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > also aired false theory of Aryan Invasion, now it has > been > > > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > refuted in open discussions in many forums. Still they > are > > > > > abusing > > > > > > > > > ancient religions by sitting in that top university of > WEST. > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > Pingree, Romila Thapar and Michael Witzel come in the > same > > > > > category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj > Chandran > > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would urge interested people to watch the Movie > > > " Jesus > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > India " . Coincidentally I watched it just yesterday > > > and it > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > an interesting view on this contreversial subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I have to disagree with your > comment > > > about > > > > > > > " His > > > > > > > > > teachings were completely Vedic " . I have read the > > > Bible > > > > > > > carefully > > > > > > > > > and I don't see any thing " Vedic " in it. Christianity is > > > > > primarily a > > > > > > > > > religion of Grace. Quite different from Vedic teaching > and > > > the > > > > > > > theory of > > > > > > > > > Karma. Infact they are poles apart. And also He was much > > > more > > > > > than > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > a " Nice Soul " . > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant <praspandey@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, December 24, 2009 6:55:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > East, Direction of > Religion ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < wikipedica says once young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some words for Great Jesus Christ:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a nice soul and his teachings were > completely > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > and he > > > > > > > > > was in India not for short period but for 10 years and > he > > > was > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > Himalaya. About him there is mention in some Puranas. > Bible > > > also > > > > > > > says > > > > > > > > > same, Pl refer to Old Testament not to Manipulated one > which > > > was > > > > > > > done by > > > > > > > > > Romans Catholics. But now stories have been manipulated > and > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > written in New Manipulated Bible that he sent his > disciple > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He born in Iraq and learn Vaidik ways of teachings > > > from > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > later from main source ie EAST (Bharat). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Roman-Catholics of Veticans changed his > teachings > > > in > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > about 400 AD just to get hold of Europe where, there was > > > VEDIC > > > > > > > Dharma > > > > > > > > > and crushed it later and it is evident from ancient > ETRUSCAN > > > > > > > > > CIVILIZATION now it is no more there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though Romulus was nice fellow and he was > influenced > > > by > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > civilization which was there in Italy in the name of > > > ETRUSCAN ( > > > > > > > > > Descendant of Vaidik Atri Rishi) and Italy name is in > the > > > name > > > > > of > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > civilization. Romans initially also made temples in the > name > > > of > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > > Rishi or one may say in the name of Etruscan > Civilization > > > and > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > > > that Big temple has been found in Egypt by archaeologist > and > > > > > name of > > > > > > > > > that temple is Athrabhis (in The name of Atri Rishi). > > > Everbody's > > > > > eye > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > towards it BUT ROMAN CATHOLICS are quite scared Ha Ha Ha > > > > > > > Ha… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaidik civilization even predates on other ground > also > > > > > like it > > > > > > > > > predate to Sumerians civilization (Civilization on > > > Mesopotamian > > > > > > > ground). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most ancient epic of Sumerians which is in the > > > name of > > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh is basically copy of Atra-Hasis Epic(Nobody > has > > > > > > > contradicted > > > > > > > > > it till-date that Flood story of Atra-Hasis Epic is > copied > > > in > > > > > > > > > Gilgamesh's Epic). Gilgamesh was the third king of > > > Sumerians. > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > > imagine who predates on other lands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atra-Hasis = Atri-Rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And JUST before flood of 2700 BCE on the ground of > > > > > Sumerians > > > > > > > > > (means now known Sumerians is after of that flood) there > was > > > a > > > > > King > > > > > > > > > named as Ziusudra (Zarasthura) , and i dont have to tell > who > > > he > > > > > was, > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > was the person who is the author of Avesta. Avestans > > > (Persians, > > > > > > > > > Iranians) are basically cousins of Vaidik ppl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assyrians were Ashur as Atri rishi had told about > the > > > > > Ashura > > > > > > > > > Swarbhanu (Rahu) who engulf Sun and Assyrians were > > > descendant of > > > > > > > Atri > > > > > > > > > Rishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarasthura (Ziu + Sura ) was Sura (Opposite of > Ashur) > > > and > > > > > he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > the the author of Epic Avesta of Zoroasterians ie of > > > Iranians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels so good while reading your's analysis > > > because > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > openly share > > > > > > > > > > > > > your's views, you have touched almost every > thing, > > > let's > > > > > > > begin > > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > > > > combined analysis so that best come out and > other > > > people > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > also become > > > > > > > > > > > > > a part, feeling free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a point - Jup in Moola nakschatra gives > > > immense > > > > > power > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > intution, phaldeepika, shambhu hora prakash and > If I > > > > > > > remember > > > > > > > > > correctly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisharnava Navnitam etc have said so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his last days Edger was guided to know about > > > India, > > > > > he > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > happened > > > > > > > > > > > > > to tell about previous births and > reincarnations, > > > > > wikipedica > > > > > > > > > says once > > > > > > > > > > > > > young Jesus visited India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < I also have one chart of one boy who is just > 25 > > > > > years > > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his > details). > > > Some > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details of that Native are as below:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mar 11,1984 (Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:09:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some ppl who knows him closely says that he > has > > > some > > > > > > > psychic > > > > > > > > > powers bt > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am worried he may be hit by those spirits. As > Ma > > > and > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > > > > fortunes of Sa which is in 8'th house and there > is > > > > > complete > > > > > > > > > imbalance > > > > > > > > > > > > > between 8'th and 12'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma+Sa+Ke are making stubborn combination but > at > > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > in 12 > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > are mild stars. So those spirits may hit him and > > > coming > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > transit near > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Sa and Ma and Ke may be fatal for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my frnd's frnd, many drug mafias take > his > > > > > > > predictions > > > > > > > > > and he has > > > > > > > > > > > > > been Chela and very close to Chandraswami. His > > > family's > > > > > > > > > financial condns > > > > > > > > > > > > > are not so good and he is also Mishraji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never met with that person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > s.com, > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > praspandey@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Correction - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > > crossing > > > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native > would be > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > crossing > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2'nd or sometimes trines to 8'th house then > native > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > > > > > major psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ > > > s.com, > > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Mishraji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Views from my side :- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His chart shows that he had possession of > some > > > > > spirits > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > never harmed him and those could be Female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) 12'th and 8'th and 4'th are connected > and > > > those > > > > > are > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 8'th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sa and Ve are so close. Sa + Ve use to > play > > > > > main > > > > > > > role > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Psychic powers and those should be lord of > mainly > > > 8'th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > > > > > > is good that 12'th lord Me came in picture and > it is > > > > > near > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > at same > > > > > > > > > > > > > degrees of Ve and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Ra is near to Sa and Ve and just before > of > > > Sa + > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > > > blast of possessions of spirits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though above conditions are more than > enough > > > to > > > > > > > predict > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic powers. But some more points - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Amazingly it is happening in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) It is good that Ma was not in 8'th or > in > > > 2'nd > > > > > > > otherwise > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > spirits might have hurt the native in violent > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my view when Sa or Ra would be just > > > crossing > > > > > his > > > > > > > 8'th, > > > > > > > > > 12'th > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 2'nd or sometimes in trines then native > would be > > > > > feeling > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic happenings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo is not getting any aspect or it is not > in > > > trine > > > > > or > > > > > > > 7'th > > > > > > > > > , from > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8'th house so native was enjoying and sensing > whole > > > > > > > happenings > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > > > never would have come in whirl of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had 2-3 charts in which spirits took > away > > > life > > > > > of > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > those native hanged themselves and their > relatives > > > found > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sign of > > > > > > > > > > > > > some spirits. I will ask from a lady to again > give > > > those > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > to me, > > > > > > > > > > > > > she is from Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have one chart of one boy who is > just > > > 25 > > > > > years > > > > > > > old > > > > > > > > > but ppl > > > > > > > > > > > > > says he has psychic powers.( I have his > details). > > > Some > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > > > > > > > as Edgar Cayce was having. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also know one lady from USA (christian > but > > > > > follows > > > > > > > > > Vaidik > > > > > > > > > > > > > tradition, but she is hard core American and her > no > > > > > relative > > > > > > > > > even from > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asia) and she is fluent in hindi and sees hindi > > > movies. > > > > > And > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > says she > > > > > > > > > > > > > can see spirits but she always sees spirits when > > > person > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > about to > > > > > > > > > > > > > die as her Bharani Nks is active. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Edgar Cayce was definitely having > psychic > > > > > abilities > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > high > > > > > > > > > > > > > class. This is extreme case one may see and > validate > > > the > > > > > > > > > concepts of > > > > > > > > > > > > > VEDIC-ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS :- I follow very basic concepts during > > > > > prediction > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > only see > > > > > > > > > > > > > how planets are fielded in D-1 only and try to > see > > > how > > > > > those > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > to each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > aling@ > > > s.com, > > > > > > > > > " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are few but rock solid, we are no > fakes, > > > no > > > > > > > gurus, no > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts, we are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who discover more, we have fire in > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are unbounded, I m little busy these > day > > > but > > > > > in > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > 10 - 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > days, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be able to settle things down and > then > > > we > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > embark on > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new horizons of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls try to study Edgar Cayce's chart, he > was > > > one > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > went into > > > > > > > > > > > > > trans to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read akasik libraries, I mean coded > mesages > > > of > > > > > > > universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.near- death.com/ experiences/ > > > > > > > cayce02.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.near- death.com/ > experiences/ > > > > > > > cayce02.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ > Edgar_Cayce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ > Edgar_Cayce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They say 8'th house is the one who takes > one > > > to > > > > > > > Mokscha, > > > > > > > > > I told > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who takes one to mysticism - > true or > > > > > untrue, > > > > > > > > > this was > > > > > > > > > > > > > the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which caused me leave one dozen dogmatic > > > > > jyotishis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > aling@ > > > > > s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedicastrol ogyandhe > > > aling@ > > > > > s.com > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " prashant " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Shri Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont join any group as sometimes it > > > diverts > > > > > mind > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > i have > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things in hand otherwise i dont > have > > > any > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes i also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without telling owner of > group > > > and > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > reappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think you will not mind for the same if > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to request you that plz > > > always > > > > > send > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > imp > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal id as it use to have some good > > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed to see so less members in > your > > > > > group > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > embarked > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with creating group in April 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again to my dear Lalitji for > giving > > > > > > > membership > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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