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Namaste,

 

Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

 

VedicAstrologer.org/articles

 

The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle " . It

contains an original principle that is simple and replicable, illustrated with

36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning of the article is

reproduced below.

 

----------------------

Introduction

 

Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing events.

Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong influence on

the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have traditionally used the

nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal

Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

 

I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord

in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to share a

specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note that this

principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic astrologers

traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

 

Principle

 

Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the matters

seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

“everythingâ€. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa varga,

shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It seems like

a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves D-60.

----------------------

 

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Sh. Raoji,

 

Sounds interesting. Have tried on my chart but three querries:

 

1. Upto what degrees, one needs to assume close conjuction or aspect - within 5

degrees or less.

2. Which planet to take lead & prominence when there are more than one

candidates. Should we chose the one that is more close in degrees.

3. What about D-60 rectifiction? Time of birth has to be very accurate.

 

regds

Dev

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

>  

> VedicAstrologer.org/articles

>  

> The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle " .

It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable, illustrated

with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning of the article is

reproduced below.

>  

> ----------------------

> Introduction

>  

> Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing events.

Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong influence on

the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have traditionally used the

nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal

Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

>  

> I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to share a

specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note that this

principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic astrologers

traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

>  

> Principle

>  

> Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the matters

seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

“everythingâ€. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa varga,

shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It seems like

a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves D-60.

> ----------------------

>  

> Happy New Year,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>

>

>

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Sh Raoji,

 

One more observation. Theory may sound more good for slow moving planets but for

planets like Sun, Moon, there may be so many instances when it would show a

possible fructification. 10 years of Moon Dasa and Moon touching sensitive

points so many times in 2.5 days itself.

 

regds

Dev

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

>  

> VedicAstrologer.org/articles

>  

> The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle " .

It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable, illustrated

with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning of the article is

reproduced below.

>  

> ----------------------

> Introduction

>  

> Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing events.

Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong influence on

the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have traditionally used the

nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal

Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

>  

> I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to share a

specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note that this

principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic astrologers

traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

>  

> Principle

>  

> Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the matters

seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

“everythingâ€. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa varga,

shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It seems like

a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves D-60.

> ----------------------

>  

> Happy New Year,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>

>

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|| OM TAT SAT ||

Namaskar Narasimha,

 

Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper analysis.

It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional charts "

that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

 

Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually exists,

i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

 

What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that you

are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division, i.e.

D-1800.

 

While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your rather

misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e. D-1800. Doesn't

that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra constellation ?

 

Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition and

not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

 

Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional longitudes

of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which would

never be found in REALITY!

 

* * *

 

Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

 

While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your sanskrit

knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an excerpt from

your article:

 

" Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges back

into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic Essence) and

all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed and observation merge

into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

 

If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you won't

use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

 

Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri Yukteswar

Giri:

 

" As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma, so I

have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, " Sri

Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral Planet.'...

No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth beyond the state of

sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

 

It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing more

than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not equivalent to

" Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

 

If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't reply

to this non-astrological diversion.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Nitish

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

>  

> VedicAstrologer.org/articles

>  

> The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle " .

It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable, illustrated

with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning of the article is

reproduced below.

>  

> ----------------------

> Introduction

>  

> Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing events.

Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong influence on

the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have traditionally used the

nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal

Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

>  

> I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra dasa

lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to share a

specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note that this

principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic astrologers

traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

>  

> Principle

>  

> Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the matters

seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

 " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It

seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves D-60.

> ----------------------

>  

> Happy New Year,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                  

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>

>

>

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Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

charts could be misleading.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

 

, " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya

wrote:

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Namaskar Narasimha,

>

> Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

REALITY.

>

> Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

>

> What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

division, i.e. D-1800.

>

> While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

constellation ?

>

> Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

>

> Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

>

> * * *

>

> Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

>

> While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

an excerpt from your article:

>

> " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

whatsoever.... "

>

> If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

>

> Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

Yukteswar Giri:

>

> " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

>

> It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

>

> If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Nitish

>

> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> > ÂÂ

> > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

at

> > ÂÂ

> > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > ÂÂ

> > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > ÂÂ

> > ----------------------

> > Introduction

> > ÂÂ

> > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > ÂÂ

> > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

augment them.

> > ÂÂ

> > Principle

> > ÂÂ

> > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

 " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

planets involves D-60.

> > ----------------------

> > ÂÂ

> > Happy New Year,

> > Narasimha

> > -

> >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish

Writings,

> > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> >        ÂÂ

        ÂÂ

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> >     Films that make a difference:

http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> >     Spirituality:

 

> >  Jyotish writings:

JyotishWritings

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> >

> >

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Namaskaar Sri Nitish

 

Just a clarification.

 

Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

 

The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

 

The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

entirety.

 

I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing with

him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

 

To Sri Narasimha

 

There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

 

For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

Sankaracharya.

 

Hope the above helps.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote:

 

>

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Namaskar Narasimha,

>

> Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper analysis.

> It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional charts "

> that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

>

> Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

>

> What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> i.e. D-1800.

>

> While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra constellation

> ?

>

> Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

>

> Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional longitudes

> of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> would never be found in REALITY!

>

> * * *

>

> Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

>

> While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your sanskrit

> knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an excerpt

> from your article:

>

> " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed and

> observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

>

> If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you won't

> use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

>

> Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> Yukteswar Giri:

>

> " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> samadhi.... "

>

> It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not equivalent

> to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

>

> If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> reply to this non-astrological diversion.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Nitish

>

> <%40>,

> " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > ÂÂ

> > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > ÂÂ

>

> > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable,

> illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning

> of the article is reproduced below.

> > ÂÂ

> > ----------------------

> > Introduction

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong

> influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g.

> houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> positions in rasi chart.

> > ÂÂ

>

> > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to

> share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > ÂÂ

> > Principle

> > ÂÂ

> > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

>  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

> varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It

> seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> D-60.

> > ----------------------

> > ÂÂ

> > Happy New Year,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

>

> > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> >                 ÂÂ

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> >     Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> >     Spirituality:

>

> >  Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

>

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Dear All,

 

One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one wants, one can

draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it, however the ONLY way

to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually taste it " . Is there any point in

theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?

 

Regards,

 -Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

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Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

Principle

 

Namaskaar Sri Nitish

 

Just a clarification.

 

Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

 

The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

 

The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

entirety.

 

I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing with

him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

 

To Sri Narasimha

 

There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

 

For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

Sankaracharya.

 

Hope the above helps.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote:

 

>

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Namaskar Narasimha,

>

> Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper analysis.

> It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional charts "

> that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

>

> Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

>

> What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> i.e. D-1800.

>

> While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra constellation

> ?

>

> Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

>

> Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional longitudes

> of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> would never be found in REALITY!

>

> * * *

>

> Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

>

> While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your sanskrit

> knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an excerpt

> from your article:

>

> " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed and

> observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

>

> If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you won't

> use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

>

> Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> Yukteswar Giri:

>

> " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> samadhi.... "

>

> It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not equivalent

> to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

>

> If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> reply to this non-astrological diversion.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Nitish

>

> <%40>,

> " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > ÂÂ

> > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > ÂÂ

>

> > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable,

> illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning

> of the article is reproduced below.

> > ÂÂ

> > ----------------------

> > Introduction

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong

> influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g.

> houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> positions in rasi chart.

> > ÂÂ

>

> > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to

> share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > ÂÂ

> > Principle

> > ÂÂ

> > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

>  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

and shodasa

> varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It

> seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> D-60.

> > ----------------------

> > ÂÂ

> > Happy New Year,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> >   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

>

> > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> >         ÂÂ

       ÂÂ

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> >      Films that make a difference:

http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> >      Spirituality:

>

> >   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

>

> > -------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Manoj ji,

//Is there any point in

theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?//

any point in thoretical discussion on any subject?unless one goes beyond

theory and PRACTICE.I believe one who practices what one talks is

PRACTICAL.

Love and regards,

gopi.

, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one

wants, one can draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it,

however the ONLY way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually

taste it " . Is there any point in theoritical discussions about

" Samadhi " ?

> Â

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology astrologyhindu

>

> Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

Specific Principle

>

> Namaskaar Sri Nitish

>

> Just a clarification.

>

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " .

There

> is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One

who

> is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say,

one

> has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

>

> The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency

of " I

> am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

>

> The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but

fragments of

> the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> entirety.

>

> I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are

discussing with

> him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> To Sri Narasimha

>

> There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was

a

> separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon

realization,

> the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's

Drig

> Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and

the

> last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and

Rupa and

> take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

>

> For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri

Adi

> Sankaracharya.

>

> Hope the above helps.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

analysis.

> > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional

charts "

> > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

and

> > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

actually

> > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

that

> > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

division,

> > i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

to

> > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

your

> > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

i.e.

> > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

constellation

> > ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

with

> > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

addition

> > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

longitudes

> > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory,

which

> > would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

sanskrit

> > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

excerpt

> > from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

merges

> > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

Cosmic

> > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

observed and

> > observation merge into one, without any differentiation

whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

you won't

> > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

non-positive

> > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

karma,

> > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

savior, "

> > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined

Astral

> > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on

earth

> > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of

nirbikalpa

> > samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

nothing

> > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

equivalent

> > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

needn't

> > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> >

<%40>,

> > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

download at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

replicable,

> > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

beginning

> > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

timing

> > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a

strong

> > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers

have

> > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various

ways, e.g.

> > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

nakshatra

> > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I

want to

> > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please

note

> > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that

Vedic

> > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

shows

> >  " everything�. In the

vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

> > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi

chart. It

> > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the

longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets

involves

> > D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------

> > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons,

Jyotish Writings,

> >

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > >    ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

ÂÂ

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

Spirituality:

> >

> > >  Jyotish writings:

JyotishWritings

> >

> > > -------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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" Kandavar vindilar,

vindavar kandilar " - it is a translitration of a Tamil saying.

 

In rough translation, those who have seen Him never able to speak or wish to

speak about that Experience.

 

Those who speak of Him endlessly, are yet to realise that Experience.

 

This is so with " Samadhi "

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several techniques.

Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

 

Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too good to

be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with several charts

in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was doctored for one exmaple, what

about the others based on the same chart?

 

For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of the chart

is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified by him (and me

too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord closely aspected the D-60

longitude of a planet with a strong link to the 7th house by less than 1 deg at

the time of his marriage and closely aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets

having a strong link to the 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his

children? A very close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3

important events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

 

*        *        *

 

In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of stationary

planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to Jyotish research.

 

In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will defend my work

as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some fruits will come from

this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits does not concern me, as it is

not in my hands. As I said at the end of the article, " If you like this

knowledge, please feel free to refine it, use it and spread it. If not, please

leave it. "

 

Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

 

http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

" Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

 

*        *        *

 

I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage, childbirth, going

abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization of Self as an example, I

wanted to give another example that uses the same parameters, to demonstrate

consistency like with other events. While the dates when yogis like Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc realized Self are

not known, I happened to have that data for a contemporary yogi who happened to

reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share his birthdata. Hence I

shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of Nirvikalpa samadhi as

some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks like there is a lot of

discussion on that definition rather than the Jyotish content of my research

article.

 

Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is not without

a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and things associated with

it. Though theoretical discussions are neither necessary not sufficient for

Self-realization, they can be helpful to some seekers.

 

However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing varieties

of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in a discussion to

join where I discuss matters related to spirituality in

depth.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

-

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" Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

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     Spirituality:

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-

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> charts could be misleading.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

> , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

> and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> division, i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

> to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

> an excerpt from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

> passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

> state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

> at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

> the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

> a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

> various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

> aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

> found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

> techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

>  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

> and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

> rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

> the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

> planets involves D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

 

 

 

 

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Yes there is a point, Manoj_ji :-)

One has to begin somewhere...!

Thought leads to action!

 

, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one wants, one can

draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it, however the ONLY way

to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually taste it " . Is there any point in

theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu

>

> Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

Principle

>

> Namaskaar Sri Nitish

>

> Just a clarification.

>

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

> is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

> is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

> has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

>

> The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

> am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

>

> The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

> the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> entirety.

>

> I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing with

> him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> To Sri Narasimha

>

> There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

> separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

> the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

> Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

> last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

> take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

>

> For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

> Sankaracharya.

>

> Hope the above helps.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper analysis.

> > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional charts "

> > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> > i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra constellation

> > ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional longitudes

> > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> > would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your sanskrit

> > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an excerpt

> > from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed and

> > observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you won't

> > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> > samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not equivalent

> > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and replicable,

> > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the beginning

> > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a strong

> > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways, e.g.

> > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want to

> > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa

varga and shodasa

> > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart. It

> > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> > D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------

> > >   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> >

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > >         ÂÂ

       ÂÂ

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > >      Films that make a difference:

http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > >      Spirituality:

> >

> > >   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> >

> > > -------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Namaste,

 

Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several techniques.

Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

 

Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too good to

be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with several charts

in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was doctored for one exmaple, what

about the others based on the same chart?

 

For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of the chart

is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified by him (and me

too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord closely aspected the D-60

longitude of a planet with a strong link to the 7th house by less than 1 deg at

the time of his marriage and closely aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets

having a strong link to the 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his

children? A very close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3

important events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

 

*        *        *

 

In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of stationary

planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to Jyotish research.

 

In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will defend my work

as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some fruits will come from

this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits does not concern me, as it is

not in my hands. As I said at the end of the article, " If you like this

knowledge, please feel free to refine it, use it and spread it. If not, please

leave it. "

 

Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

 

http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

" Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

 

*        *        *

 

I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage, childbirth, going

abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization of Self as an example, I

wanted to give another example that uses the same parameters, to demonstrate

consistency like with other events. While the dates when yogis like Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc realized Self are

not known, I happened to have that data for a contemporary yogi who happened to

reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share his birthdata. Hence I

shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of Nirvikalpa samadhi as

some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks like there is a lot of

discussion on that definition rather than the Jyotish content of my research

article.

 

Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is not without

a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and things associated with

it. Though theoretical discussions are neither necessary not sufficient for

Self-realization, they can be helpful to some seekers.

 

However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing varieties

of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in a discussion to

join where I discuss matters related to spirituality in

depth.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

-

  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

" Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

                  http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

     Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

     Spirituality:

  Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

-

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> charts could be misleading.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

> , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

> and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> division, i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

> to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

> an excerpt from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

> passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

> state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

> at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

> the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

> a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

> various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

> aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

> found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

> techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

>  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

> and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

> rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

> the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

> planets involves D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

 

 

 

 

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Dear Nitish,

 

" Nirvikalpa Samadhi " is a correct specific term used by brother PVR in

his article, This is used in Patanjali's Yoga Sutra, healthy criticism

is good for evolution of a subject, let's do not make it personal.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Namaste,

> Â

> Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several

techniques. Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

> Â

> Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too

good to be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with

several charts in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was

doctored for one exmaple, what about the others based on the same chart?

> Â

> For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of

the chart is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified

by him (and me too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord

closely aspected the D-60 longitude of a planet with a strong link to

the 7th house by less than 1 deg at the time of his marriage and closely

aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets having a strong link to the

5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his children? A very

close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3 important

events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

> Â

> *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â

 *

> Â

> In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of

stationary planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to

Jyotish research.

> Â

> In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will

defend my work as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some

fruits will come from this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits

does not concern me, as it is not in my hands. As I said at the end of

the article, " If you like this knowledge, please feel free to refine it,

use it and spread it. If not, please leave it. "

> Â

> Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

> Â

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

> Â

> *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â

 *

> Â

> I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage,

childbirth, going abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization

of Self as an example, I wanted to give another example that uses the

same parameters, to demonstrate consistency like with other events.

While the dates when yogis like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami

Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc realized Self are not known,

I happened to have that data for a contemporary yogi who happened to

reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share his birthdata.

Hence I shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of

Nirvikalpa samadhi as some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks

like there is a lot of discussion on that definition rather than the

Jyotish content of my research article.

> Â

> Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is

not without a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and

things associated with it. Though theoretical discussions are neither

necessary not sufficient for Self-realization, they can be helpful to

some seekers.

> Â

> However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing

varieties of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in

a discussion to join where I discuss matters

related to spirituality in depth.

> Â

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -

> Â Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Â Â Â Â Films that make a difference:

http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> Â Â Â Â Spirituality:

 

> Â Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

> Â

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> > Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> > charts could be misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal

> >

> > , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick

than a

> > REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a

division

> > and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> > actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the

30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> > that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> > division, i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is

needed

> > to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are

pushing

> > your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of

planets "

> > i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > constellation ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never

inconsistent

> > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always

an

> > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> > theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view,

here is

> > an excerpt from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> > merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the

Supreme

> > Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases.

Observer,

> > observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> > whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

you

> > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi

Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> > karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet

as a

> > savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> > 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he

has

> > passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the

higher

> > state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> > nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and

not

> > equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> > needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

download

> > at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt

from

> > the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> > timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he

has

> > a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> > Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's

transit in

> > various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna

and

> > aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> > planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the

correlation I

> > found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace

the

> > techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> > augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

shows

> >  " everything�. In the

vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

> > and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even

the

> > rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found

between

> > the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of

natal

> > planets involves D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

>

>

>

>

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Dear Manoj and Gopi,

 

It's not expected from you that you people w'd come forward to disregard

theory and discussions on theory of a subject.

 

Pls recall how you studied in school, you have not done practicals on

lot many subjects still you learnt them in school.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

 

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wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one

wants, one can draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it,

however the ONLY way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually

taste it " . Is there any point in theoritical discussions about

" Samadhi " ?

> Â

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

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>

> Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

Specific Principle

>

> Namaskaar Sri Nitish

>

> Just a clarification.

>

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " .

There

> is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One

who

> is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say,

one

> has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

>

> The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency

of " I

> am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

>

> The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but

fragments of

> the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> entirety.

>

> I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are

discussing with

> him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> To Sri Narasimha

>

> There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was

a

> separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon

realization,

> the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's

Drig

> Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and

the

> last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and

Rupa and

> take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

>

> For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri

Adi

> Sankaracharya.

>

> Hope the above helps.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

analysis.

> > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional

charts "

> > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

and

> > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

actually

> > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

that

> > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

division,

> > i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

to

> > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

your

> > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

i.e.

> > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

constellation

> > ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

with

> > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

addition

> > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

longitudes

> > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory,

which

> > would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

sanskrit

> > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

excerpt

> > from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

merges

> > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

Cosmic

> > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

observed and

> > observation merge into one, without any differentiation

whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

you won't

> > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

non-positive

> > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

karma,

> > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

savior, "

> > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined

Astral

> > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on

earth

> > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of

nirbikalpa

> > samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

nothing

> > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

equivalent

> > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

needn't

> > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> >

<%40>,

> > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

download at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

replicable,

> > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

beginning

> > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

timing

> > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a

strong

> > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers

have

> > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various

ways, e.g.

> > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

nakshatra

> > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I

want to

> > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please

note

> > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that

Vedic

> > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

shows

> >  " everything�. In the

vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

> > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi

chart. It

> > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the

longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets

involves

> > D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------

> > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons,

Jyotish Writings,

> >

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > >    ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

   ÂÂ

ÂÂ

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

Spirituality:

> >

> > >  Jyotish writings:

JyotishWritings

> >

> > > -------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Namaskaar Sri Ravindramani

 

Since Lord Krishna chose to speak about the experience to answer Arjuna's

questions, perhaps by the same logic, Bhagwan was not realized! Nor was Guru

Vashishtha as he spoke to Bhagawan Rama! Adi Sankara certainly wasn't!

 

Every time a concept is discussed, such remarks start to float around. The

way to wisdom is through Sravana, Manana and Niddhidhyasana as is said in

the Vedas. You are trying to stop Sravana itself let alone a person get into

Manana.

 

Hope you grasp this important point.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, C.S. Ravindramani

<ravindramaniwrote:

 

>

>

> " Kandavar vindilar,

> vindavar kandilar " - it is a translitration of a Tamil saying.

>

> In rough translation, those who have seen Him never able to speak or wish

> to

> speak about that Experience.

>

> Those who speak of Him endlessly, are yet to realise that Experience.

>

> This is so with " Samadhi "

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

>

>

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Namaskaar Sri Manoj

 

How do you know potassium cyanide is a poison and will kill a person? Do

you suggest we should " taste " it to experience it first?

 

Knowledge precedes the experience. The experience only verifies the

knowledge. An Samadhi isn't an experience as in an Experience there is a

distinction between the experiencer and that which is experienced.

 

Please study the subject before making such remarks.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojwrote:

 

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one wants, one can

> draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it, however the ONLY

> way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually taste it " . Is there any

> point in theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu<astrologyhindu%40gmail.com>

> >

> <%40>

> Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle

>

>

> Namaskaar Sri Nitish

>

> Just a clarification.

>

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

> is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

> is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

> has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

>

> The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

> am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

>

> The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

> the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> entirety.

>

> I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing

> with

> him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> To Sri Narasimha

>

> There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

> separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

> the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

> Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

> last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

> take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

>

> For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

> Sankaracharya.

>

> Hope the above helps.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99

<nitish.arya<nitish.arya%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis.

> > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional

> charts "

> > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> > i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation

> > ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes

> > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> > would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit

> > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

> excerpt

> > from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed

> and

> > observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> won't

> > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> > samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent

> > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> >

<%40><%

> 40>,

>

> > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable,

> > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

> beginning

> > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a

> strong

> > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways,

> e.g.

> > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want

> to

> > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and

> shodasa

> > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart.

> It

> > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> > D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------

> > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> >

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > >                 ÂÂ

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > >     Films that make a difference:

> http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > >     Spirituality:

> >

> > >  Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> >

> > > -------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Bharat Ji,

 

//Please study the subject before making such remarks//

 

I am not spiritually qualified to talk about the " experience " of   " Samadhi " . I

don't believe in intellectualizing spirituality, so kindly excuse my withdrawing

from this subject thread.

 

 Regards,

 -Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu

 

Mon, January 4, 2010 3:28:41 PM

Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

Principle

 

Namaskaar Sri Manoj

 

How do you know potassium cyanide is a poison and will kill a person?  Do

you suggest we should " taste " it to experience it first?

 

Knowledge precedes the experience. The experience only verifies the

knowledge. An Samadhi isn't an experience as in an Experience there is a

distinction between the experiencer and that which is experienced.

 

Please study the subject before making such remarks.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojwrote:

 

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one wants, one can

> draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it, however the ONLY

> way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually taste it " . Is there any

> point in theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?

>

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu<astrologyhindu%40gmail.com>

> >

> <%40>

> Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> Principle

>

>

> Namaskaar Sri Nitish

>

> Just a clarification.

>

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

> is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

> is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

> has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

>

> The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

> am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

>

> The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

> the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> entirety.

>

> I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing

> with

> him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> To Sri Narasimha

>

> There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

> separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

> the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

> Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

> last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

> take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

>

> For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

> Sankaracharya.

>

> Hope the above helps.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99

<nitish.arya<nitish.arya%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Namaskar Narasimha,

> >

> > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis.

> > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional

> charts "

> > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> >

> > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> >

> > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> > i.e. D-1800.

> >

> > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation

> > ?

> >

> > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> >

> > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes

> > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> > would never be found in REALITY!

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> >

> > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit

> > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

> excerpt

> > from your article:

> >

> > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed

> and

> > observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

> >

> > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> won't

> > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> >

> > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> > samadhi.... "

> >

> > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent

> > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> >

> > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Nitish

> >

> >

<%40><%

> 40>,

>

> > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > > ÂÂ

> > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable,

> > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

> beginning

> > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > ----------------------

> > > Introduction

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a

> strong

> > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways,

> e.g.

> > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > positions in rasi chart.

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want

> to

> > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Principle

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa

varga and

> shodasa

> > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart.

> It

> > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> > D-60.

> > > ----------------------

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Happy New Year,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------

> > >   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> >

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > >         ÂÂ

       ÂÂ

> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > >      Films that make a difference:

> http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > >      Spirituality:

> >

> > >   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

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Dear Nitish,

 

Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis.

 

On the contrary I think the article has really sound analysis. Infact the only

real question is if that (the principle) is working, or if it is not working.

 

It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> > REALITY.

 

What mathematical gimmick? A major party of jyotish does entail mathematical

points for analysis. Who has ever seen a GL or a HL in the night sky? So please,

kindly tone down your rhetoric. If mathematics seems too difficult for you, skip

it.

 

Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

 

Correct, so Narasimha's new principle is an " addition " to the accepted idea of

divisional charts by Rishi Parashara.

 

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish

 

But thats just your opinion. -:). No further value in that statement.

 

As I said, the final test in any jyotish principle is the statistical accuracy

of it's application. If it works in more cases it is good, if it does not it is

bad. Narasimha's latest principles seems to be working quite fine.

 

 

If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

 

 

Now, please provide some scriptural reference for this term " Brahma-sthiti " - no

fancy personal interpretations please. You yourself were asking for scriptural

reference, now kindly provide it.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several

techniques. Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

>  

> Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too good to

be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with several charts

in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was doctored for one exmaple, what

about the others based on the same chart?

>  

> For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of the

chart is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified by him (and

me too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord closely aspected the D-60

longitude of a planet with a strong link to the 7th house by less than 1 deg at

the time of his marriage and closely aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets

having a strong link to the 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his

children? A very close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3

important events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of stationary

planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to Jyotish research.

>  

> In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will defend my

work as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some fruits will come

from this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits does not concern me, as

it is not in my hands. As I said at the end of the article, " If you like this

knowledge, please feel free to refine it, use it and spread it. If not, please

leave it. "

>  

> Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

>  

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage, childbirth,

going abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization of Self as an

example, I wanted to give another example that uses the same parameters, to

demonstrate consistency like with other events. While the dates when yogis like

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc

realized Self are not known, I happened to have that data for a contemporary

yogi who happened to reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share

his birthdata. Hence I shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of

Nirvikalpa samadhi as some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks like

there is a lot of discussion on that definition rather than the Jyotish content

of my research article.

>  

> Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is not

without a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and things

associated with it. Though theoretical discussions are neither necessary not

sufficient for Self-realization, they can be helpful to some seekers.

>  

> However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing varieties

of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in a discussion to

join where I discuss matters related to spirituality in

depth.

>  

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>  

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@>

wrote:

> >

> > Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> > charts could be misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal

> >

> > , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> > REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

> > and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> > actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> > that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> > division, i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

> > to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> > your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> > i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > constellation ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> > theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

> > an excerpt from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> > merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> > Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> > observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> > whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> > karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> > savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> > 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

> > passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

> > state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> > nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> > equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> > needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

> > at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

> > the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> > timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

> > a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> > Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

> > various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

> > aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> > planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

> > found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

> > techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> > augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa

varga

> > and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

> > rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

> > the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

> > planets involves D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

>

>

>

>

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Dear Friends,

 

More importantly, and rather way more scarily -- how does one know before

tasting that the sample of 'honey' may contain botulinus toxin! Rare, but honey

has been known to be occasionally contaminated with botulinus toxin because the

honey bee contains both the sweet nectar as well as the bug that produced the

toxin!

 

How's that for DUALITY and UNCERTAINLY ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaskaar Sri Manoj

>

> How do you know potassium cyanide is a poison and will kill a person? Do

> you suggest we should " taste " it to experience it first?

>

> Knowledge precedes the experience. The experience only verifies the

> knowledge. An Samadhi isn't an experience as in an Experience there is a

> distinction between the experiencer and that which is experienced.

>

> Please study the subject before making such remarks.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojwrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one wants, one can

> > draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about it, however the ONLY

> > way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually taste it " . Is there any

> > point in theoritical discussions about " Samadhi " ?

> >

> > Regards,

> > -Manoj

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu<astrologyhindu%40gmail.com>

> > >

> > <%40>

> > Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> > Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle

> >

> >

> > Namaskaar Sri Nitish

> >

> > Just a clarification.

> >

> > Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham Brahmasmi " . There

> > is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream. One who

> > is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot say, one

> > has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

> >

> > The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency of " I

> > am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

> >

> > The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but fragments of

> > the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from the

> > entirety.

> >

> > I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are discussing

> > with

> > him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

> >

> > To Sri Narasimha

> >

> > There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never was a

> > separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> > perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon realization,

> > the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world. The

> > vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti, Bhati,

> > Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's Drig

> > Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman and the

> > last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and Rupa and

> > take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

> >

> > For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri Adi

> > Sankaracharya.

> >

> > Hope the above helps.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99

<nitish.arya<nitish.arya%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis.

> > > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in divisional

> > charts "

> > > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division and

> > > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what actually

> > > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is that

> > > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60 division,

> > > i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed to

> > > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing your

> > > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets " i.e.

> > > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > constellation

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent with

> > > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an addition

> > > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes

> > > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory, which

> > > would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > sanskrit

> > > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

> > excerpt

> > > from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self) merges

> > > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme Cosmic

> > > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer, observed

> > and

> > > observation merge into one, without any differentiation whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> > won't

> > > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a non-positive

> > > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical karma,

> > > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a savior, "

> > > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined Astral

> > > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth

> > > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa

> > > samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state, nothing

> > > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> > equivalent

> > > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you needn't

> > > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > >

<%40><%

> > 40>,

> >

> > > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > replicable,

> > > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

> > beginning

> > > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for timing

> > > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has a

> > strong

> > > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers have

> > > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various ways,

> > e.g.

> > > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on natal

> > > positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of nakshatra

> > > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I want

> > to

> > > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found. Please note

> > > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that Vedic

> > > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> > >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and

> > shodasa

> > > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi chart.

> > It

> > > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the longitude of

> > > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets involves

> > > D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > -------------------------

> > > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> > >

> > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > > >                 ÂÂ

> > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > >     Films that make a difference:

> > http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > > >     Spirituality:

> > >

> > > >  Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Utkal,

we also have the same right just as you or anybody else to express

opinions/views i supose!!!By the way you have not answered me about your

expression of GOD and capitalism in the same breath?!!!....We are not

discussing naked truth(s)here since TRUTH CAN NOT BE FOUND either in

discussion or argument which we are doing here.By the way i dont want to

go back to school since i want to proceed in LIFE.Neither Manoj ji i

believe.....

-gopi.

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

>

> Dear Manoj and Gopi,

>

> It's not expected from you that you people w'd come forward to

disregard

> theory and discussions on theory of a subject.

>

> Pls recall how you studied in school, you have not done practicals on

> lot many subjects still you learnt them in school.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one

> wants, one can draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about

it,

> however the ONLY way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually

> taste it " . Is there any point in theoritical discussions about

> " Samadhi " ?

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bharat - Hindu Astrology astrologyhindu@

> >

> > Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> > Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

> Specific Principle

> >

> > Namaskaar Sri Nitish

> >

> > Just a clarification.

> >

> > Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham

Brahmasmi " .

> There

> > is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream.

One

> who

> > is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot

say,

> one

> > has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

> >

> > The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency

> of " I

> > am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

> >

> > The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but

> fragments of

> > the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from

the

> > entirety.

> >

> > I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are

> discussing with

> > him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa

Samadhi.

> >

> > To Sri Narasimha

> >

> > There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never

was

> a

> > separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> > perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon

> realization,

> > the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world.

The

> > vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti,

Bhati,

> > Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya's

> Drig

> > Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman

and

> the

> > last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and

> Rupa and

> > take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

> >

> > For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri

> Adi

> > Sankaracharya.

> >

> > Hope the above helps.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis.

> > > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

divisional

> charts "

> > > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a

division

> and

> > > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> actually

> > > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the

30

> > > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows)

is

> that

> > > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> division,

> > > i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is

needed

> to

> > > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> your

> > > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> i.e.

> > > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never

inconsistent

> with

> > > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> addition

> > > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes

> > > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory,

> which

> > > would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit

> > > knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is an

> excerpt

> > > from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> merges

> > > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> Cosmic

> > > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> observed and

> > > observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

> you won't

> > > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> non-positive

> > > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi

Sri

> > > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> karma,

> > > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> savior, "

> > > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined

> Astral

> > > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on

> earth

> > > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of

> nirbikalpa

> > > samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> nothing

> > > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent

> > > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> needn't

> > > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > >

> <%40>,

> > > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

> download at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

Specific

> > > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable,

> > > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

> beginning

> > > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> timing

> > > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

a

> strong

> > > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers

> have

> > > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various

> ways, e.g.

> > > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on

natal

> > > positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> nakshatra

> > > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I

> want to

> > > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found.

Please

> note

> > > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that

> Vedic

> > > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

> the

> > > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

> shows

> > >  " everything�. In the

> vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

> > > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi

> chart. It

> > > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the

> longitude of

> > > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets

> involves

> > > D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > -------------------------

> > > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons,

> Jyotish Writings,

> > >

> > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri

Tarpana:

> > > >    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

> ÂÂ

> > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

> Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

> Spirituality:

> > >

> > > >  Jyotish writings:

> JyotishWritings

> > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Utkal,

 

I had written a detailed reply to your mail, but not mailing it now because

it might extend the discussion on this non-astrological topic unnecessarily.

 

PVRs definitions are his own imaginations like the " planetary longitudes in

D-60 " and don't conform to any shastra whatsoever.

 

OTOH, I find consistency and non-contradiction in the words of Sri Yukteswar

Giri and Patanjali Sutras.

 

Thus, if two people have nothing in common, except the language of

communication, mutual criticism cannot arise.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Nitish

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Nitish,

>

> " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " is a correct specific term used by brother PVR in

> his article, This is used in Patanjali's Yoga Sutra, healthy criticism

> is good for evolution of a subject, let's do not make it personal.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Â

> > Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several

> techniques. Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

> > Â

> > Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too

> good to be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with

> several charts in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was

> doctored for one exmaple, what about the others based on the same chart?

> > Â

> > For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of

> the chart is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified

> by him (and me too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord

> closely aspected the D-60 longitude of a planet with a strong link to

> the 7th house by less than 1 deg at the time of his marriage and closely

> aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets having a strong link to the

> 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his children? A very

> close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3 important

> events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

> > Â

> > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â

> Â *

> > Â

> > In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of

> stationary planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to

> Jyotish research.

> > Â

> > In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will

> defend my work as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some

> fruits will come from this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits

> does not concern me, as it is not in my hands. As I said at the end of

> the article, " If you like this knowledge, please feel free to refine it,

> use it and spread it. If not, please leave it. "

> > Â

> > Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

> > Â

> > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

> > Â

> > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â

> Â *

> > Â

> > I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage,

> childbirth, going abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization

> of Self as an example, I wanted to give another example that uses the

> same parameters, to demonstrate consistency like with other events.

> While the dates when yogis like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami

> Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc realized Self are not known,

> I happened to have that data for a contemporary yogi who happened to

> reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share his birthdata.

> Hence I shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of

> Nirvikalpa samadhi as some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks

> like there is a lot of discussion on that definition rather than the

> Jyotish content of my research article.

> > Â

> > Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is

> not without a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and

> things associated with it. Though theoretical discussions are neither

> necessary not sufficient for Self-realization, they can be helpful to

> some seekers.

> > Â

> > However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing

> varieties of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in

> a discussion to join where I discuss matters

> related to spirituality in depth.

> > Â

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > -

> > Â Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> Â Â Â http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Â Â Â Â Films that make a difference:

> http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > Â Â Â Â Spirituality:

>

> > Â Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> > -

> > Â

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> > > charts could be misleading.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Utkal

> > >

> > > , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > > >

> > > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > > analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick

> than a

> > > REALITY.

> > > >

> > > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a

> division

> > > and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> > > actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > > >

> > > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the

> 30

> > > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> > > that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> > > division, i.e. D-1800.

> > > >

> > > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is

> needed

> > > to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are

> pushing

> > > your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of

> planets "

> > > i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > > constellation ?

> > > >

> > > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never

> inconsistent

> > > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always

> an

> > > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> > > theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > > >

> > > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > > sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view,

> here is

> > > an excerpt from your article:

> > > >

> > > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> > > merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the

> Supreme

> > > Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases.

> Observer,

> > > observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> > > whatsoever.... "

> > > >

> > > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

> you

> > > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > > >

> > > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi

> Sri

> > > Yukteswar Giri:

> > > >

> > > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> > > karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet

> as a

> > > savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> > > 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he

> has

> > > passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the

> higher

> > > state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> > > >

> > > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> > > nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and

> not

> > > equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > > >

> > > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> > > needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > Nitish

> > > >

> > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

> download

> > > at

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

> Specific

> > > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > > replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt

> from

> > > the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > ----------------------

> > > > > Introduction

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> > > timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he

> has

> > > a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> > > Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's

> transit in

> > > various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna

> and

> > > aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> > > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> > > planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the

> correlation I

> > > found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace

> the

> > > techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> > > augment them.

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Principle

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

> the

> > > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

> shows

> > >  " everything�. In the

> vimsopaka bala of dasa varga

> > > and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even

> the

> > > rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found

> between

> > > the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of

> natal

> > > planets involves D-60.

> > > > > ----------------------

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > > Narasimha

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Namaskar Narasimha,

 

It is futile to use a car that has no steering, irrespective of how good the

design is.

 

The question here was how do you justify D-1800 (the 30 longitudinal

divisions of your D-60 chart in your software, that require 1800 divisions in

Rashi chart) ? Actually your software divides D-144 also in 30 parts so that is

something like D-4320 - sounds more like an apartment number !

 

Please defend that first. Who gave you that " scholarly " idea ?

Has anybody ever heard of anything more than D-300 anyways ?

 

Regards,

Nitish

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several

techniques. Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

>  

> Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too good to

be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with several charts

in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was doctored for one exmaple, what

about the others based on the same chart?

>  

> For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of the

chart is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified by him (and

me too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord closely aspected the D-60

longitude of a planet with a strong link to the 7th house by less than 1 deg at

the time of his marriage and closely aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets

having a strong link to the 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his

children? A very close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3

important events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of stationary

planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to Jyotish research.

>  

> In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will defend my

work as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some fruits will come

from this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits does not concern me, as

it is not in my hands. As I said at the end of the article, " If you like this

knowledge, please feel free to refine it, use it and spread it. If not, please

leave it. "

>  

> Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

>  

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage, childbirth,

going abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization of Self as an

example, I wanted to give another example that uses the same parameters, to

demonstrate consistency like with other events. While the dates when yogis like

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc

realized Self are not known, I happened to have that data for a contemporary

yogi who happened to reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share

his birthdata. Hence I shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of

Nirvikalpa samadhi as some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks like

there is a lot of discussion on that definition rather than the Jyotish content

of my research article.

>  

> Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is not

without a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and things

associated with it. Though theoretical discussions are neither necessary not

sufficient for Self-realization, they can be helpful to some seekers.

>  

> However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing varieties

of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in a discussion to

join where I discuss matters related to spirituality in

depth.

>  

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>  

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@>

wrote:

> >

> > Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> > charts could be misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal

> >

> > , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> > REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

> > and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> > actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> > that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> > division, i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

> > to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> > your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> > i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > constellation ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> > theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

> > an excerpt from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> > merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> > Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> > observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> > whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> > karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> > savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> > 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

> > passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

> > state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> > nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> > equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> > needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

> > at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

> > the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> > timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

> > a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> > Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

> > various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

> > aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> > planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

> > found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

> > techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> > augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa

varga

> > and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

> > rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

> > the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

> > planets involves D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

>

>

>

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Gopi Ji,

 

Pls use your rights for good things, before rights there always come duties,

imparting knowledge is inherent duty of a person who is in Jyotish.

 

There is no place for betting for ignorence, pls study upnishads urself and

shares ur study with others, this is the way, there w'd be good environment.

 

 - Utkal.

 

 

 

 

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gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

 

Tue, January 5, 2010 11:01:23 AM

Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle

 

 

Dear Utkal,

we also have the same right just as you or anybody else to express

opinions/views i supose!!!By the way you have not answered me about your

expression of GOD and capitalism in the same breath?!!!.. ..We are not

discussing naked truth(s)here since TRUTH CAN NOT BE FOUND either in

discussion or argument which we are doing here.By the way i dont want to

go back to school since i want to proceed in LIFE.Neither Manoj ji i

believe.....

-gopi.

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Manoj and Gopi,

>

> It's not expected from you that you people w'd come forward to

disregard

> theory and discussions on theory of a subject.

>

> Pls recall how you studied in school, you have not done practicals on

> lot many subjects still you learnt them in school.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > One can describe the sweetness honey in as many ways as one

> wants, one can draw a picture, visualize it, even make a movie about

it,

> however the ONLY way to find out " how honey tastes " is to " actually

> taste it " . Is there any point in theoritical discussions about

> " Samadhi " ?

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bharat - Hindu Astrology astrologyhindu@

> >

> > Sun, January 3, 2010 12:11:57 PM

> > Re: Re: Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

> Specific Principle

> >

> > Namaskaar Sri Nitish

> >

> > Just a clarification.

> >

> > Nirvikalpa Samadhi is same as " realizing Brahman " - " Aham

Brahmasmi " .

> There

> > is no states in spirituality, like there are no states in a dream.

One

> who

> > is dreaming is dreaming and one who is awake is awake. One cannot

say,

> one

> > has progressed a lot in a dream. It does not mean anything.

> >

> > The " states " business does nothing but augment the egoistic tendency

> of " I

> > am holier than thou " . It has to be negated.

> >

> > The savikalpa samadhi is when the Lord is seen all around but

> fragments of

> > the small " I " thought still remain that keep oneself separate from

the

> > entirety.

> >

> > I do not know what Sri Narasimha has written or what you are

> discussing with

> > him. I am just pointing out to your statements on Nirvikalpa

Samadhi.

> >

> > To Sri Narasimha

> >

> > There is no merging back of I-self to the whole-self. There never

was

> a

> > separation as is elaborated by the mahavakya " Atman is Brahman " . The

> > perceived separation is born out of avarna and vikeshpa. Upon

> realization,

> > the objects still remain objects and the world remains the world.

The

> > vikshepa caused by Naam and Rupa ceases. Every object is Asti,

Bhati,

> > Priyam, Naam and Rupam (Kaivalya Upanishad and Sri Adi Sankacharya' s

> Drig

> > Drishya Viveka " ). The first three properties it borrows of Brahman

and

> the

> > last two are perceived and are false. We get caught up in Naam and

> Rupa and

> > take the object to be different from the entirety. This is vikshepa.

> >

> > For understanding this further, please study Vivekachoodamani of Sri

> Adi

> > Sankaracharya.

> >

> > Hope the above helps.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:48 PM, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> analysis.

> > > It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

divisional

> charts "

> > > that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a

division

> and

> > > exists as a unit (Shastyamsa) . And then comparing it with what

> actually

> > > exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the

30

> > > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows)

is

> that

> > > you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> division,

> > > i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is

needed

> to

> > > completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> your

> > > rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> i.e.

> > > D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> constellation

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never

inconsistent

> with

> > > scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> addition

> > > and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> longitudes

> > > of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter theory,

> which

> > > would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> sanskrit

> > > knowledge is good by your own evaluation.. In this view, here is an

> excerpt

> > > from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> merges

> > > back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> Cosmic

> > > Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> observed and

> > > observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> whatsoever.. .. "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why

> you won't

> > > use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> non-positive

> > > connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi

Sri

> > > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> karma,

> > > so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> savior, "

> > > Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or 'Illumined

> Astral

> > > Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on

> earth

> > > beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of

> nirbikalpa

> > > samadhi..... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikal pa is a high-spiritual state,

> nothing

> > > more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> equivalent

> > > to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> needn't

> > > reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > >

> <% 40. com>,

> > > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free

> download at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer. org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A

Specific

> > > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> replicable,

> > > illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from the

> beginning

> > > of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ------------ --------- -

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> timing

> > > events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

a

> strong

> > > influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic Astrologers

> have

> > > traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in various

> ways, e.g.

> > > houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and aspects on

natal

> > > positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> nakshatra

> > > dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal planets. I

> want to

> > > share a specific principle based on the correlation I found.

Please

> note

> > > that this principle is not intended to replace the techniques that

> Vedic

> > > astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning

> the

> > > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60)

> shows

> > >

 " everything�. In

the

> vimsopaka bala of dasa varga and shodasa

> > > varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the rasi

> chart. It

> > > seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between the

> longitude of

> > > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal planets

> involves

> > > D-60.

> > > > ------------ --------- -

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > >  Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons,

> Jyotish Writings,

> > >

> > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri

Tarpana:

> > > >    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

>    ÂÂ

> ÂÂ

> > > http://www..VedicAst rologer.org

> > > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

> Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFil ms.org

> > > > ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ

> Spirituality:

> > > http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> > > >  Jyotish writings:

> http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings

> > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Namaste to all,

Thers a confusion stemming in my mind.Do we consider the planet only...or should

we also consider the other influences like aspects on it ??.....like what if 6th

from AMk is occupied by mercury but aspected by moon.so mercury shows lord

vishnu but if we consider the influence of moon.should we consider the palana

devata as lord krishna ???

 

 

plz resolve my confusion.

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>  

> Most charts used were rectified based on several events and several

techniques. Of course, one has the right to remain skeptical.

>  

> Inquisitive students of Jyotish may note that the coincidences are too good to

be random. If you look carefully, multiple events are used with several charts

in the examples. If you think that D-60 lagna was doctored for one exmaple, what

about the others based on the same chart?

>  

> For example, examples 10, 22 and 23 use the same chart. The native of the

chart is a famous astrology savant and the D-60 lagna was rectified by him (and

me too). Isn't it very interesting that the dasa lord closely aspected the D-60

longitude of a planet with a strong link to the 7th house by less than 1 deg at

the time of his marriage and closely aspected the D-60 longitudes of two planets

having a strong link to the 5th house by 2 deg at the time of birth of both his

children? A very close aspect on vital planets by dasa lord at the time of 3

important events! I have shown such close correlations in several examples.

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> In my personal opinion, the last two articles on the transit of stationary

planets and dasa lord's transit are my best contributions to Jyotish research.

>  

> In any case, I am not here to sell anything. For a while, I will defend my

work as a scholar. After that, I will move on. Whether some fruits will come

from this seed I sowed or not and who enjoys the fruits does not concern me, as

it is not in my hands. As I said at the end of the article, " If you like this

knowledge, please feel free to refine it, use it and spread it. If not, please

leave it. "

>  

> Those interested in the article may download the FREE PDF at:

>  

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific Principle "

>  

> *        *        *

>  

> I gave multiple examples of each type of event (e.g. marriage, childbirth,

going abroad etc). As I gave Ramana Maharshi's realization of Self as an

example, I wanted to give another example that uses the same parameters, to

demonstrate consistency like with other events. While the dates when yogis like

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Swami Sivananda, Aurobindo etc

realized Self are not known, I happened to have that data for a contemporary

yogi who happened to reach Nirvikalpa samadhi and have his permission to share

his birthdata. Hence I shared that example. I gave the theoretical definition of

Nirvikalpa samadhi as some Jyotish students may not know the term. Looks like

there is a lot of discussion on that definition rather than the Jyotish content

of my research article.

>  

> Self is indescribable and so is realization of Self. However, it is not

without a reason that rishis attempted to describe concepts and things

associated with it. Though theoretical discussions are neither necessary not

sufficient for Self-realization, they can be helpful to some seekers.

>  

> However, instead of using a list dedicated to Jyotish for discussing varieties

of samadhi and what they mean, I invite anybody interested in a discussion to

join where I discuss matters related to spirituality in

depth.

>  

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -

>   Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

>                   http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

>      Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

>      Spirituality:

>   Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

> -

>  

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@>

wrote:

> >

> > Agreed, Studies based on unconfirmed birth charts, applying finer D

> > charts could be misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal

> >

> > , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Namaskar Narasimha,

> > >

> > > Am afraid that your article lacks scriptural authority and proper

> > analysis. It is based on your unexplained " longitudes of planets in

> > divisional charts " that looks like more of a mathematical gimmick than a

> > REALITY.

> > >

> > > Essentially, You are attempting to divide what is already a division

> > and exists as a unit (Shastyamsa). And then comparing it with what

> > actually exists, i.e. longitude of a planet in Transit.

> > >

> > > What it really means (am not counting the seconds part, just the 30

> > imaginative degrees of divisional longitudes your software shows) is

> > that you are talking about a subdivision which is 1/30th of the D-60

> > division, i.e. D-1800.

> > >

> > > While on one hand, you write in your article that research is needed

> > to completely unearth the significance of D-60, OTOH, you are pushing

> > your rather misleading suggestion of " divisional longitudes of planets "

> > i.e. D-1800. Doesn't that double-standard remind us of PoorvaBhadra

> > constellation ?

> > >

> > > Vivekananda wrote that Truth or true knowledge is never inconsistent

> > with scriptures and analytic and inferential science. It is always an

> > addition and not contradictory to existing true knowledge.

> > >

> > > Thus, many of your research-things that are based on " divisional

> > longitudes of planets " are not Jyotish but comparable to dark matter

> > theory, which would never be found in REALITY!

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Here is a bit of diversion I came across in your article.

> > >

> > > While I understand that you might not be familiar with yoga, your

> > sanskrit knowledge is good by your own evaluation. In this view, here is

> > an excerpt from your article:

> > >

> > > " Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state where I-ness (individualized Self)

> > merges back into Brahman/Aatman (undifferentiated Self or the Supreme

> > Cosmic Essence) and all objectification and duality ceases. Observer,

> > observed and observation merge into one, without any differentiation

> > whatsoever.... "

> > >

> > > If there is really no difference, Could you please illucidate why you

> > won't use the specific term " Brahman-Sthiti " and instead use a

> > non-positive connotation " Nirvikalpa Samadhi " ?

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, here is a helpful hint from the now better-known Yogi Sri

> > Yukteswar Giri:

> > >

> > > " As prophets are sent on earth to help men work out their physical

> > karma, so I have been directed by God to serve on an astral planet as a

> > savior, " Sri Yukteswar explained. " It is called Hiranyaloka or

> > 'Illumined Astral Planet.'... No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has

> > passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher

> > state of nirbikalpa samadhi.... "

> > >

> > > It implies that Nirbikalpa/Nirvikalpa is a high-spiritual state,

> > nothing more than a passport to enter another high Astral Plane, and not

> > equivalent to " Brahman-Sthithi " as You are stating.

> > >

> > > If you are convinced with the explanation of Sri Yukteswar, you

> > needn't reply to this non-astrological diversion.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Nitish

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Another research article on Jyotish is available for a free download

> > at

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > VedicAstrologer.org/articles

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > The article is titled " Transit of Nakshatra Dasa Lord: A Specific

> > Principle " . It contains an original principle that is simple and

> > replicable, illustrated with 36 practical examples. A small excerpt from

> > the beginning of the article is reproduced below.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Introduction

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Nakshatra dasas such as Vimsottari dasa are very important for

> > timing events. Nakshatra dasa lord is a very important planet and he has

> > a strong influence on the mind of a native at the time. Vedic

> > Astrologers have traditionally used the nakshatra dasa lord's transit in

> > various ways, e.g. houses occupied from natal Moon and natal lagna and

> > aspects on natal positions in rasi chart.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > I found an interesting correlation between the longitude of

> > nakshatra dasa lord in transit and divisional longitudes of natal

> > planets. I want to share a specific principle based on the correlation I

> > found. Please note that this principle is not intended to replace the

> > techniques that Vedic astrologers traditionally employ, but meant to

> > augment them.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Principle

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Maharshi Parasara defined 16 divisional charts. While mentioning the

> > matters seen in each divisional chart, he said shashtyamsa (D-60) shows

> >  " everything�. In the vimsopaka bala of dasa

varga

> > and shodasa varga, shashtyamsa is given a higher weightage than even the

> > rasi chart. It seems like a key chart. The correlation I found between

> > the longitude of nakshatra dasa lord in transit and longitudes of natal

> > planets involves D-60.

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Happy New Year,

> > > > Narasimha

>

>

>

>

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