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Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

Vivekananda's time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

Vivekananda's birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

use link -

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S7msRIK04KAvpztZYJpoxY70lXh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt-oj4wORlIBCva8mbP7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y7oWN4_frCI/Swami%20Viv\

ekananda/Swami%20Vivekananda_Birthtime-ISBN-0-911206-04-3%2520.jpg

<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S7msRIK04KAvpztZYJpoxY70lXh0O-FXNZSL3D\

MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt-oj4wORlIBCva8mbP7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y7oWN4_frCI/Swami%20Vi\

vekananda/Swami%20Vivekananda_Birthtime-ISBN-0-911206-04-3%2520.jpg>

// That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda's death, For more

information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada's work used 6.49 am as

Swami Vivekananda's birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S3-FvNK04KAv6miOv9LbIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO2KtS\

I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nqdrsWQdYCc8oqckTLcapHn3HDDFnvU3CFOzYJxr4DA/Swami%20Viv\

ekananda/SwamiVivekananda-yugnayak.jpg

<http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S3-FvNK04KAv6miOv9LbIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO2Kt\

SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nqdrsWQdYCc8oqckTLcapHn3HDDFnvU3CFOzYJxr4DA/Swami%20Vi\

vekananda/SwamiVivekananda-yugnayak.jpg> Another important biography

which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda>

http://www.vedantastl.org/StLouisCenter/StLCenter.htm

<http://www.vedantastl.org/StLouisCenter/StLCenter.htm>

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----------- Physic and Life I

understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

Vivekananda's nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

three fold afflictions -

* Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

* 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

aspected by mars.

* 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

budh on lagna.

On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

(sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

people. regards, Utkal.

 

 

 

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Utkal,

 

Though this is a complete waste of bandwidth, yet a few points.

 

Though initially Swami Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna

Mission being a spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice

of Swami

Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

 

Swami Nikhilananda gave the first famous and complete biography of Swamiji and

mentioned 6.33 as the birth time.

 

As per the mail below it says the first biography did not contain any birth

time. In that case how did any one " recitify " 6.33 to 6.49?

 

Swami Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had given

6.33 am as the birtth time,

 

It was and is still considered one of the finest biographies of Vivekananda, not

brief exactly.

 

 

but, in his second book on Swami Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga

and Other Works " , he gave 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned

page is uploaded by

Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

use link -

 

This is interesting. But the link is not working. Can you kindly provide the

link to show this evidence?

 

That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong,

 

You probably did not understand what Narasimha said in the mail. Nikhilananda

was a contemporary of many people who had first hand interaction with Vivekanada

- many of his brother disciples. ALSO Nikhilananda was initiated by none other

than Ma Sarada.

 

Swami Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

information pls use google.

 

Physic and Life I understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to

know about

physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics

 

 

ROFL. Others are mediocre student of astrology and you are gift of God to

astrologyt? ROFL. Sorry, this reaction was spontaneous. Your jyotish analysis

can be actually, umm, " debated " but why waste bandwidth. Chill-:)

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

Rama Naama Satya Hai..

 

--- On Sun, 14/2/10, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi wrote:

 

 

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

Sunday, 14 February, 2010, 5:26 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

use link -

http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Viv\

ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

<http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Vi\

vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

// That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2KtS\

I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Viv\

ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

<http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2Kt\

SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Vi\

vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

<http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

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------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

three fold afflictions -

* Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

* 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

aspected by mars.

* 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

budh on lagna.

On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

(sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

people. regards, Utkal.

 

 

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> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

 

Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

 

Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

 

So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

 

Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

 

His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in 12'th

house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

 

Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

 

It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> Vivekananda's time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> Vivekananda's birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S7msRIK04KAvpztZYJpoxY70lXh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt-oj4wORlIBCva8mbP7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y7oWN4_frCI/Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/Swami%20Vivekananda_Birthtime-ISBN-0-911206-04-3%2520.jpg

> <http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S7msRIK04KAvpztZYJpoxY70lXh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt-oj4wORlIBCva8mbP7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y7oWN4_frCI/Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/Swami%20Vivekananda_Birthtime-ISBN-0-911206-04-3%2520.jpg>

> // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda's death, For more

> information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada's work used 6.49 am as

> Swami Vivekananda's birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S3-FvNK04KAv6miOv9LbIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO2KtS\

> I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nqdrsWQdYCc8oqckTLcapHn3HDDFnvU3CFOzYJxr4DA/Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/SwamiVivekananda-yugnayak.jpg

> <http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wAR3S3-FvNK04KAv6miOv9LbIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO2Kt\

> SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nqdrsWQdYCc8oqckTLcapHn3HDDFnvU3CFOzYJxr4DA/Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/SwamiVivekananda-yugnayak.jpg> Another important biography

> which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda>

> http://www.vedantastl.org/StLouisCenter/StLCenter.htm

> <http://www.vedantastl.org/StLouisCenter/StLCenter.htm>

> ------\

> ------\

> ----------- Physic and Life I

> understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> Vivekananda's nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> three fold afflictions -

> * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> aspected by mars.

> * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> budh on lagna.

> On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> people. regards, Utkal.

>

>

>

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Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

 

I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

 

He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

 

By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

 

Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

 

hope wisdom dawns,

 

Manoj

 

Press Trust Of India

Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

  

     Print

 

 

  

Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured when

students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at them

on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use force to

quell them.

Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said.

Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge on

students at the University.

" The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner on

the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done. An

inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister P

Sabita Reddy said.

Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

astro.talk <astro.talk

 

Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

// Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

 

Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

 

Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

 

So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

 

Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

 

His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in 12'th

house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

 

Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

 

It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2KtS\

> I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2Kt\

> SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda

> <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> three fold afflictions -

> * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> aspected by mars.

> * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> budh on lagna.

> On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> people. regards, Utkal.

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Mouji,

 

Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see some

attacks.

 

When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big terrorist

attack we may see.

 

Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other person

who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru also

abused your Guru K N Rao.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya 

 

--- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99

Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

 

Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

 

I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

 

He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

 

By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

 

Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

 

hope wisdom dawns,

 

Manoj

 

Press Trust Of India

Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

  

     Print

 

 

  

Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured when

students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at them

on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use force to

quell them.

Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said.

Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge on

students at the University.

" The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner on

the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done. An

inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister P

Sabita Reddy said.

Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro.talk <astro.talk (AT) (DOT) in>

 

Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

// Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

 

Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

 

Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

 

So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

 

Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

 

His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in 12'th

house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

 

Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

 

It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2KtS\

> I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2Kt\

> SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> three fold afflictions -

> * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> aspected by mars.

> * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> budh on lagna.

> On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> people. regards, Utkal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rajarshi,

 

They are mediocres as they fail to understand abysimal gap between life

and the incorrect horoscope of Swami Vivekananda which is based on 6.33

am's time.

 

All the scanned copies of pages are placed in folder section of Jyotish

Remedies and Vedicastrologyandhealing group.

 

Swami Nikhilananda corrected Vivekananda's birth time in his next book

and gave 6.49 am as said in the mail, it's scanned copy is sent to Prof

K N Rao, PV Narsimha and others, You can request PV Narsimha for the

same, Scanned copy of the page of " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other

Works " is provided by Rohini Ranjan ji.

 

All subsequent biographies published by RamKrishna Mission's India head

quarter gives 6.49 am as correct birth time, scanned copy of the page

where 6.49 am is mentioned in " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetananda

is also sent to Prof K N Rao , PV Narsimha and others, you can request

PV Narsimha for the same.

 

Have you seen yourself biography written by Swami Nikhilananda yourself,

It's a concise pocket book like work easily available in book stalls run

by Ram Krishna Mission.

 

Mission has published encyclopedic biography of Swami Vivekananda with

title " Yug Nayak Vivekananda " in 3 volumes, they have discussed Swami

Ji's horoscope in this work, you can refer to that for your benefit or

request PV Narsimha, this page's scanned copy is also sent to him.

 

As most school of astrology are not in spirituality they had not studied

these biographies otherwise they could have used right birth time in

their study.

 

How these schools could ignore serious facts of Swami Ji's life like

death father as well as death of 2 elder brothers and 3 younger sisters,

shows what's the level of teaching and integrity is there.

 

How they could ignore the fact that Sun in lagna doesnt give heavy and

healthy physic that Swami Ji was having, They never tried to refer to

classics.

 

It's upto them, if they correct themselves or keep drumming at the wrong

chart, their choice.

 

Utkal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14

wrote:

>

> Utkal,

> Â

> Though this is a complete waste of bandwidth, yet a few points.

> Â

> Though initially Swami Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration,

Ramkrishna Mission being a spiritual - social organization initially

didnt take the notice of Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> Â

> Swami Nikhilananda gave the first famous and complete biography of

Swamiji and mentioned 6.33 as the birth time.

> Â

> As per the mail below it says the first biography did not contain any

birth time. In that case how did any one " recitify " 6.33 to 6.49?

> Â

> Swami Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda

had given 6.33 am as the birtth time,

> Â

> It was and is still considered one of the finest biographies of

Vivekananda, not brief exactly.

> Â

> Â

> but, in his second book on Swami Vivekananda titled as " Swami

Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave 6.49 am as correct birth

time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> Â

> This is interesting. But the link is not working. Can you kindly

provide the link to show this evidence?

>

> That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong,

> Â

> You probably did not understand what Narasimha said in the mail.

Nikhilananda was a contemporary of many people who had first hand

interaction with Vivekanada - many of his brother disciples. ALSO

Nikhilananda was initiated by none other than Ma Sarada.

> Â

> Swami Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he

joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For

more

> information pls use google.

> Â

> Physic and Life I understand that some mediocre students of astrology

wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics

> Â

> Â

> ROFL. Others are mediocre student of astrology and you are gift of God

to astrologyt? ROFL. Sorry, this reaction was spontaneous. Your jyotish

analysis can be actually, umm, " debated " but why waste bandwidth.

Chill-:)

> Â

> -Regards

> Â Rajarshi

> Â

>

>

>

> Rama Naama Satya Hai..

>

> --- On Sun, 14/2/10, utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

>

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi

> Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

> Sunday, 14 February, 2010, 5:26 AM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

> Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned

from

> Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed

to

> see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state

of

> slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief

description

> that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection

of

> biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't

mention

> source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible

that

> he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of

Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he

gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520.

jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520.

jpg>

> // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For

more

> information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L

bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2KtS\

> I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L

bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2Kt\

> SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India

this

> tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV

Narsimha

> seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which

is

> another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more

then

> enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome,

Jyotish

> student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where

it

> get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early

in

> life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> three fold afflictions -

> * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> aspected by mars.

> * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> budh on lagna.

> On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both

ravi

> (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru

was

> transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's

important

> is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to

short

> life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in

conjunction

> with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they

never

> bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he

told

> to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation

and

> then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to

take

> note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of

makar

> lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows

devotion

> to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K

N

> Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming

or

> mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> people. regards, Utkal.

>

>

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But the line applies to everyone dear. And the so called person who has been

thrown out and his so called guru, I know the Guru and had warned him of

consequences of his bad Karmas way back in 1995, when he was still working in

Delhi. It is the bad karmas of everyone which eventually catch up so liked that

line. But I had reminded about the attacks and telangana because someone had

very loudly professed and shouted over rooftops to the contrary.

 

Mouji

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Astro Talk <astro.talk

 

Mon, February 15, 2010 7:19:27 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

Mouji,

 

Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see some

attacks.

 

When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big terrorist

attack we may see.

 

Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other person

who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru also

abused your Guru K N Rao.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya 

 

--- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

 

Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

 

 

 

Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

 

I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

 

He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

 

By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

 

Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

 

hope wisdom dawns,

 

Manoj

 

Press Trust Of India

Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

  

     Print

 

 

  

Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured when

students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at them

on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use force to

quell them.

Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said.

Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge on

students at the University.

" The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner on

the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done. An

inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister P

Sabita Reddy said.

Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

astro.talk <astro.talk@ . in>

 

Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

// Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

 

Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

 

Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

 

So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

 

Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

 

His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in 12'th

house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

 

Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

 

It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> use link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2KtS\

> I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Viv\

> ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO 2Kt\

> SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/ Swami%20Vi\

> vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> three fold afflictions -

> * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> aspected by mars.

> * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> budh on lagna.

> On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> people. regards, Utkal.

 

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Nuisance Maker Mouji, recognize your own karma, you tried to defame BVB by

falsely talking that Chandrashekher has got jup in makara wheres founder and

guru of BVB, Prof KN Rao has given as well as analyzed Chandrashekhar's chart

with Jup in kumbha.

 

Have you cared what Prof Rao said.

 

Your game is up, whosoever, you are mouji.

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> But the line applies to everyone dear. And the so called person who has been

thrown out and his so called guru, I know the Guru and had warned him of

consequences of his bad Karmas way back in 1995, when he was still working in

Delhi. It is the bad karmas of everyone which eventually catch up so liked that

line. But I had reminded about the attacks and telangana because someone had

very loudly professed and shouted over rooftops to the contrary.

>

> Mouji

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Astro Talk <astro.talk

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 7:19:27 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

>

>  

> Mouji,

>  

> Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see

some attacks.

>  

> When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big terrorist

attack we may see.

>  

> Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other person

who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru also

abused your Guru K N Rao.

>  

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya 

>

> --- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

> Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

> Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

>  

>

> Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

>

> I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

>

> He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

>

> By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

>

> Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

>

> hope wisdom dawns,

>

> Manoj

>

> Press Trust Of India

> Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

> First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

> Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

>   

>      Print

>  

>  

>   

> Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured

when students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at

them on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use

force to quell them.

> Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

> Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

> Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said.

> Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge

on students at the University.

> " The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner

on the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done.

An inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister

P Sabita Reddy said.

> Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> astro.talk <astro.talk@ . in>

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

>  

> // Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

>

> Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

>

> Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

>

> So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

>

> Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

>

> His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in

12'th house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

>

> Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

>

> It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

>

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

.....> wrote:

> >

> > Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> > Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> > Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> > Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> > society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> > voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> > Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> > see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> > slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> > written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> > year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> > lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> > He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> > Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> > that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> > It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> > biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> > born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> > source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> > Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> > he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> > collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> > further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> > Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> > spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> > When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> > use link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> > U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> > MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> > // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> > contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> > Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> > Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> > information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> > Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> > Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> > Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> > am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> > Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> > Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> > volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2KtS\

> > I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2Kt\

> > SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> > which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> > the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> > biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> > International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> > confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> > tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> > seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> > http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> > <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> > understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> > physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> > prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> > that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> > Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> > another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> > navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> > to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> > rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> > enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> > however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> > Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> > student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> > get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> > further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> > energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> > Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> > indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> > him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> > are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> > Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> > brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> > life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> > by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> > aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> > lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> > as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> > If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> > Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> > three fold afflictions -

> > * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> > * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> > aspected by mars.

> > * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> > budh on lagna.

> > On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> > mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> > On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> > (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> > On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> > transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> > house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> > is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> > 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> > factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> > body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> > life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> > world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> > with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> > ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> > lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> > Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> > also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> > accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> > bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> > august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> > years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> > alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> > to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> > On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> > then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> > students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> > note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> > lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> > vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> > sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> > to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> > of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> > cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> > Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> > mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> > scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> > knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> > people. regards, Utkal.

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Thotha Chana Baje Ghana.....

 

Your point of view was that a strong Jup and Mars. And I had admitted my mistake

in the chart as soon you had pointed it out but my dear " greatest astrologer "

and your " clan " have still much to prove rather than foul mouthing others.

 

You still have many unanswered questions pending at your end. Think of them

before you even care to start dancing.

 

Still I would give you an opportunity to answer those questions astrologically.

 

i.   logic behind job in ncr region.

ii.  reason for your mundane predictions (and by the way terror strike has

again taken place and telangana is again in news).

iii. Short life for vivekananda by placment of 8th lord in 12th or 12th lord in

8th, i dont exactly remember that logic of yours. (Now before you think of

opening your mouth here, be careful, because I would give you a number of such

charts where such combinations are present but the persons have had long life.)

iv. By the way, read the meaning of exalted Jupiter in the 8th house and

spirituality again, will help you in deciding the lagna of Swami, who must be

enjoying this debate over his birth time in heavens.

 

continue bragging....

 

Mouji

 

 

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Tue, February 16, 2010 12:13:09 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

Nuisance Maker Mouji, recognize your own karma, you tried to defame BVB by

falsely talking that Chandrashekher has got jup in makara wheres founder and

guru of BVB, Prof KN Rao has given as well as analyzed Chandrashekhar' s chart

with Jup in kumbha.

 

Have you cared what Prof Rao said.

 

Your game is up, whosoever, you are mouji.

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> But the line applies to everyone dear. And the so called person who has been

thrown out and his so called guru, I know the Guru and had warned him of

consequences of his bad Karmas way back in 1995, when he was still working in

Delhi. It is the bad karmas of everyone which eventually catch up so liked that

line. But I had reminded about the attacks and telangana because someone had

very loudly professed and shouted over rooftops to the contrary.

>

> Mouji

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Astro Talk <astro.talk@ ...>

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 7:19:27 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

>  

> Mouji,

>  

> Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see

some attacks.

>  

> When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big terrorist

attack we may see.

>  

> Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other person

who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru also

abused your Guru K N Rao.

>  

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya 

>

> --- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

> Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

> Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

>  

>

> Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

>

> I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

>

> He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

>

> By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

>

> Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

>

> hope wisdom dawns,

>

> Manoj

>

> Press Trust Of India

> Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

> First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

> Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

>   

>      Print

>  

>  

>   

> Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured

when students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at

them on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use

force to quell them.

> Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

> Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

> Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said.

> Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge

on students at the University.

> " The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner

on the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done.

An inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister

P Sabita Reddy said.

> Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> astro.talk <astro.talk@ . in>

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

>  

> // Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

>

> Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

>

> Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

>

> So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

>

> Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

>

> His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in

12'th house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

>

> Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

>

> It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

>

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

.....> wrote:

> >

> > Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> > Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> > Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> > Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> > society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> > voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> > Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> > see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> > slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> > written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> > year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> > lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> > He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> > Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> > that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> > It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> > biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> > born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> > source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> > Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> > he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> > collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> > further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> > Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> > spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> > When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> > use link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> > U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> > MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> > // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> > contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> > Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> > Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> > information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> > Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> > Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> > Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> > am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> > Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> > Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> > volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2KtS\

> > I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2Kt\

> > SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> > which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> > the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> > biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> > International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> > confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> > tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> > seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> > http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> > <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> > understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> > physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> > prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> > that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> > Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> > another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> > navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> > to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> > rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> > enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> > however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> > Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> > student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> > get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> > further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> > energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> > Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> > indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> > him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> > are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> > Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> > brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> > life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> > by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> > aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> > lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> > as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> > If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> > Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> > three fold afflictions -

> > * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> > * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> > aspected by mars.

> > * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> > budh on lagna.

> > On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> > mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> > On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> > (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> > On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> > transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> > house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> > is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> > 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> > factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> > body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> > life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> > world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> > with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> > ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> > lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> > Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> > also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> > accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> > bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> > august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> > years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> > alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> > to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> > On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> > then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> > students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> > note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> > lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> > vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> > sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> > to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> > of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> > cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> > Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> > mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> > scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> > knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> > people. regards, Utkal.

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Dear Mouji,

 

In one mail you wrote that you can provide hundreds of data for anything and you

also said that you have birth details of one CM, but YOU PROVIDED WRONG DETAILS

OF CHANDRASHEKHAR and on those details you fanned your funny astrology and

abused astrology.

 

Now it looks that ppl should not take you seriously, instead all should take you

as Mouji.

 

Atleast provide correct details so that ppl could enlighten you with

astrological theories on forums.

                                        \

                               

Mouji, you know, lying and abusing is the biggest sin on this earth and when it

get exposed ppl run all around because of embarrassment.

 

Regards,

Pawan Maurya

 

--- On Tue, 16/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99

Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

 

Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 9:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thotha Chana Baje Ghana.....

 

Your point of view was that a strong Jup and Mars. And I had admitted my mistake

in the chart as soon you had pointed it out but my dear " greatest astrologer "

and your " clan " have still much to prove rather than foul mouthing others.

 

You still have many unanswered questions pending at your end. Think of them

before you even care to start dancing.

 

Still I would give you an opportunity to answer those questions astrologically.

 

i.   logic behind job in ncr region.

ii.  reason for your mundane predictions (and by the way terror strike has

again taken place and telangana is again in news).

iii. Short life for vivekananda by placment of 8th lord in 12th or 12th lord in

8th, i dont exactly remember that logic of yours. (Now before you think of

opening your mouth here, be careful, because I would give you a number of such

charts where such combinations are present but the persons have had long life.)

iv. By the way, read the meaning of exalted Jupiter in the 8th house and

spirituality again, will help you in deciding the lagna of Swami, who must be

enjoying this debate over his birth time in heavens.

 

continue bragging....

 

Mouji

 

____________ _________ _________ __

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

 

Tue, February 16, 2010 12:13:09 PM

Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

 

 

Nuisance Maker Mouji, recognize your own karma, you tried to defame BVB by

falsely talking that Chandrashekher has got jup in makara wheres founder and

guru of BVB, Prof KN Rao has given as well as analyzed Chandrashekhar' s chart

with Jup in kumbha.

 

Have you cared what Prof Rao said.

 

Your game is up, whosoever, you are mouji.

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> But the line applies to everyone dear. And the so called person who has been

thrown out and his so called guru, I know the Guru and had warned him of

consequences of his bad Karmas way back in 1995, when he was still working in

Delhi. It is the bad karmas of everyone which eventually catch up so liked that

line. But I had reminded about the attacks and telangana because someone had

very loudly professed and shouted over rooftops to the contrary..

>

> Mouji

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Astro Talk <astro.talk@ ...>

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 7:19:27 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

>  

> Mouji,

>  

> Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see

some attacks.

>  

> When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big terrorist

attack we may see.

>  

> Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other person

who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru also

abused your Guru K N Rao.

>  

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya 

>

> --- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

> Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

> Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

>  

>

> Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

>

> I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make Guru

instead abusing him later. "

>

> He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

>

> By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation has

again been in news today.

>

> Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

>

> hope wisdom dawns,

>

> Manoj

>

> Press Trust Of India

> Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

> First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

> Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010) 

>   

>      Print

>  

>  

>   

> Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured

when students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at

them on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use

force to quell them.

> Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells when

students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

> Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the hotbed

of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

> Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was supervising

the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted stones at police.

Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources said..

> Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the baton-charge

on students at the University.

> " The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner

on the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done.

An inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister

P Sabita Reddy said.

> Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess, she

said.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> astro.talk <astro.talk@ . in>

>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

>

>  

> // Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

>

> Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means he

would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

>

> Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in his

book.

>

> So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

>

> Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

>

> His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in

12'th house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

>

> Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

>

> It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

>

> Regards,

> Pawan Maurya

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

.....> wrote:

> >

> > Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> > Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> > Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> > Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> > society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> > voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> > Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> > see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> > slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> > written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> > year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> > lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> > He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> > Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> > that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> > It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> > biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> > born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> > source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> > Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> > he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> > collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> > further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> > Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> > spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> > Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> > When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> > use link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3DM\

> > U9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

Xh0O-FXNZSL3D\

> > MU9sfLUmy1B5wsYeUt- oj4wORlIBCva8mbP 7a01UrvjpKAdbV3y 7oWN4_frCI/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> > // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> > contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> > Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> > Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> > information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> > Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> > Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> > Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> > am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> > Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> > Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> > volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2KtS\

> > I0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3nq drsWQdYCc8oqckTL capHn3HDDFnvU3CF OzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Viv\

> > ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

2Kt\

> > SI0_vhkRzoaA8YT9Z3n qdrsWQdYCc8oqckT LcapHn3HDDFnvU3C FOzYJxr4DA/

Swami%20Vi\

> > vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> > which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> > the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> > 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> > biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> > International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> > confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> > tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> > seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> > http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> > <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> > understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> > physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> > prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> > that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> > Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> > another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> > navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> > to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> > rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> > enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> > however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> > Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> > student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> > get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> > further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> > energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> > Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> > indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> > him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> > are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> > Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> > brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> > life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> > by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> > aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> > lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> > as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> > If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> > Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> > three fold afflictions -

> > * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> > * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> > aspected by mars.

> > * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> > budh on lagna.

> > On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> > mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> > On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> > (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> > On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> > transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> > house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> > is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> > 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> > factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> > body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> > life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> > world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> > with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> > ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> > lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> > Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> > also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> > accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> > bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> > august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> > years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> > alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> > to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> > On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> > then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> > students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> > note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> > lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> > vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> > sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> > to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> > of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> > cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> > Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> > mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> > scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> > knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> > people. regards, Utkal.

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Nuisance Maker Mouji,

 

You can put hundreds of charts because you lack skill to understand a chart in

it's entirety.

 

True, you are not aware of basis of several things that what i said in my

analysis, you ask your teachers to give you light.

 

As long as you dont change your attitude, dont expect any thing from me, you are

free to make more nuisance.

 

Thotha Chana Baje Ghana and you sound bad .....

 

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> Thotha Chana Baje Ghana.....

>

> Your point of view was that a strong Jup and Mars. And I had admitted my

mistake in the chart as soon you had pointed it out but my dear " greatest

astrologer " and your " clan " have still much to prove rather than foul mouthing

others.

>

> You still have many unanswered questions pending at your end. Think of them

before you even care to start dancing.

>

> Still I would give you an opportunity to answer those questions

astrologically.

>

> i.   logic behind job in ncr region.

> ii.  reason for your mundane predictions (and by the way terror strike has

again taken place and telangana is again in news).

> iii. Short life for vivekananda by placment of 8th lord in 12th or 12th lord

in 8th, i dont exactly remember that logic of yours. (Now before you think of

opening your mouth here, be careful, because I would give you a number of such

charts where such combinations are present but the persons have had long life.)

> iv. By the way, read the meaning of exalted Jupiter in the 8th house and

spirituality again, will help you in deciding the lagna of Swami, who must be

enjoying this debate over his birth time in heavens.

>

> continue bragging....

>

> Mouji

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

>

> Tue, February 16, 2010 12:13:09 PM

> Re: Swami Vivekananda's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion

>

>  

> Nuisance Maker Mouji, recognize your own karma, you tried to defame BVB by

falsely talking that Chandrashekher has got jup in makara wheres founder and

guru of BVB, Prof KN Rao has given as well as analyzed Chandrashekhar' s chart

with Jup in kumbha.

>

> Have you cared what Prof Rao said.

>

> Your game is up, whosoever, you are mouji.

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:

> >

> > But the line applies to everyone dear. And the so called person who has been

thrown out and his so called guru, I know the Guru and had warned him of

consequences of his bad Karmas way back in 1995, when he was still working in

Delhi. It is the bad karmas of everyone which eventually catch up so liked that

line. But I had reminded about the attacks and telangana because someone had

very loudly professed and shouted over rooftops to the contrary.

> >

> > Mouji

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Astro Talk <astro.talk@ ...>

> >

> > Mon, February 15, 2010 7:19:27 PM

> > Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

> >

> > à

> > Mouji,

> > à

> > Ma and Sa are now retro and those are 6'th and 8'th to Mo, so we had to see

some attacks.

> > à

> > When Su will go just opposite in middle of Retro Sa and Ma, some big

terrorist attack we may see.

> > à

> > Dear Mouji, the line which you have picked, was targeted on some other

person who abused his Guru recently and has been thrown out, though his Guru

also abused your GuruàK N Rao.

> > à

> > Regards,

> > Pawan Mauryaà

> >

> > --- On Mon, 15/2/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

> >

> > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

> > Re: Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

> >

> > Monday, 15 February, 2010, 1:35 PM

> >

> > à

> >

> > Perhaps those discussing the chart of Swami Vivekananda need to get back to

basics of astrology, rather than distorting it by quoting their own qualms and

beliefs which are totally out of sync. These IT people with their command on net

can do nothing good to astrology rather than questioning it.

> >

> > I liked one line on this mail by Pawan Maurya, " It is better, not to make

Guru instead abusing him later. "

> >

> > He deserves congratulations for writing this particular line.

> >

> > By the way, terror attack has taken place in Pune and Telangana agitation

has again been in news today.

> >

> > Someone professing to be a master of Mundane astrology was saying all things

opposite here.

> >

> > hope wisdom dawns,

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> > Press Trust Of India

> > Hyderabad, February 15, 2010

> > First Published: 11:03 IST(15/2/2010)

> > Last Updated: 11:07 IST(15/2/2010)à

> > àà

> > àààà Print

> > à

> > à

> > àà

> > Over 20 people, including security personnel and journalists, were injured

when students agitating over creation of a separate Telangana hurled stones at

them on the Osmania University campus in Hyderabad, prompting police to use

force to quell them.

> > Security personnel used batons, fired rubber bullets and tear gas shells

when students defied prohibitory orders and tried to take out a procession last

evening in support of legislators who resigned to protest the terms of reference

of the Sri Krishna Committee to go into the issue of separate statehood,

Commissioner of Police A K Khan said.

> > Prohibitory orders were in force on the campus as the University is the

hotbed of the ongoing Telengana agitation in the state.

> > Joint Commissioner of Police (Security) P S R Anjaneyulu, who was

supervising the security on the OU campus, was injured when the mob pelted

stones at police. Ten other policemen also sustained injuries, police sources

said.

> > Andhra Pradesh government last night ordered an inquiry into the

baton-charge on students at the University.

> > " The incident at OU is painful. I spoke with the DGP and Police Commissioner

on the conditions that led to this incident and why cane-charge had to be done.

An inquiry has been ordered into the incident immediately, " state Home Minister

P Sabita Reddy said.

> > Action will be taken if any officer is found to have committed any excess,

she said.

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro.talk <astro.talk@ . in>

> >

> > Mon, February 15, 2010 4:23:29 PM

> > Re: Swami Vivekananda' s Horoscope - Towards

Conclusion

> >

> > à

> > // Swami

> > > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls //

> >

> > Swami Nikhilanand published 2 books, in later edition he used 6.49 AM means

he would have corrected it. It is total common sense.

> >

> > Ram Krishna Mission's Secretary and VP Swami Chetnanand also used 6:49 in

his book.

> >

> > So definitely his birth details should be of Makara Lagna.

> >

> > Thanks for bringing in notice so important fact.

> >

> > His father died at very early age so Su being at Rahsi Sandhi should be in

12'th house and in D-9 for Makra Lagna it also goes to 12'th so it clearly gives

example of MARANA KARAKA STHANA for Sun.

> >

> > Utkalji, put aside those ppl who does business based on Jyotish or who are

looking for fame by abusing their GURUs.

> >

> > It is better, not to make Guru instead abusing him later.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Pawan Maurya

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

.....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Swami Vivekanada's Horoscope - Towards Conclusion History of

> > > Biographies Like happens always, most of the biography's of Swami

> > > Vivekananda is written after he left the world on 4 July 1902, Though,

> > > Swami Ji was a sage born with a purpose, conservative and dogmatic

> > > society of then India was not open to assimilate his revolutionary

> > > voice, he had to bear all sorts of criticism even after he returned from

> > > Chicago, He was deeply hurt by the stupid reactions and disappointed to

> > > see his efforts are not pushing the indian mind, a mind in the state of

> > > slavery. Luckily, one astrologer (Devaki Nandan Singh) of Swami

> > > Vivekananda' s time had seen initial biographies of Swami Vivekananda

> > > written in Bangla and noted detailed account in his book published in

> > > year 1934, Devaki Nandan Singh learnt astrology in year 1898, He was a

> > > lawer by profession and had knowledge of english, hindi and sanskirt.

> > > He has noted that in the first biography published by close friends of

> > > Swami Vivekananda no birth time was mentioned, Only a brief description

> > > that he was born on the day of Makar Sankranti in the early morning.

> > > It was some Ganesh Chandra Mukhopadhyaya, who published a collection of

> > > biographies including Swami Ji's biography described that Swami Ji was

> > > born at 6.33.33 am in the morning,however, Ganesh Chandra didn't mention

> > > source of information how he got that birth time. Those day's B. Surya

> > > Narayan Rao was active in the field of astrology and It's possible that

> > > he could have collected same birth time from Ganesh Chandra's

> > > collection, and same birth time circulated in Jyotish world just for

> > > further used by BV Raman and KN Rao etc. Though initially Swami

> > > Vivekananda didn't get people's admiration, Ramkrishna Mission being a

> > > spiritual - social organization initially didnt take the notice of Swami

> > > Vivekananda' s birth time and few authors gave same 6.33 am's timing,

> > > When they took notice of the error, they corrected it. Swami

> > > Nikhilananda, In his first brief biography of Swami Vivekananda had

> > > given 6.33 am as the birtth time, but, in his second book on Swami

> > > Vivekananda titled as " Swami Vivekananda Yoga and Other Works " , he gave

> > > 6.49 am as correct birth time, this book's scanned page is uploaded by

> > > Rohini Ranjan Ji in Jyotishgroup. This was published in year 1953. Pls

> > > use link -

> > > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

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> > > ekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg

> > > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S7msRIK04 KAvpztZYJpoxY70l

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> > > vekananda/Swami% 20Vivekananda_ Birthtime- ISBN-0-911206- 04-3%2520. jpg>

> > > // That what PV Narsimha says that Swami Nikhilananda was almost

> > > contemprary to fellow desciples of Swami Vivekananda is wrong, Swami

> > > Nikhilananda was born in year of 1895 and lived upto 1973. he joined

> > > Ramkrishna Mission after 20 years of Swami Vivekananda' s death, For more

> > > information pls use google. // All other biographies of Swami

> > > Vivekananda published after Swami Nikhilanada' s work used 6.49 am as

> > > Swami Vivekananda' s birth time. In fact, 6.33 am is irrelevant to

> > > Swami Ji's life, the recorded birth time of Swami Vivekananda is 6.43

> > > am, The flaw in recording birth time is further discussed by Ram

> > > Krishna Mission in encyclopedic biography with the title " Yug Nayak

> > > Vivekananda " , It 's a set of 3 large volumes, I bought this set of 3

> > > volumes, scanned copy of same is accessible through following link -

> > > http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

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> > > ekananda/SwamiVivek ananda-yugnayak. jpg

> > > <http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/wAR3S3- FvNK04KAv6miOv9L bIbNiRYWm1wSYZmO

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> > > vekananda/SwamiVive kananda-yugnayak .jpg> Another important biography

> > > which narrates hourly details of Swami Ji's activities the day he left

> > > the world is " God Lived with Them " by Swami Chetnanada, He also gave

> > > 6.49 am as correct birth time of Swami Vivekananda, Last week, this

> > > biography was shown to me by a monk of RamKrishna Mission during

> > > International Book Fair, New Delhi. In order to get further

> > > confirmation, I spoke to Swami Chetannanda who was luckily in India this

> > > tuesday, he has written 15 books for Sri Ramkrishna Mission, PV Narsimha

> > > seems unaware of Swami Chetnanada. following links may help -

> > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da

> > > <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Swami_Chetananan da>

> > > http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm

> > > <http://www.vedantas tl.org/StLouisCe nter/StLCenter. htm>

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----- Physic and Life I

> > > understand that some mediocre students of astrology wish to know about

> > > physic of Swami ji, lack of serious study of jyotish classics is the

> > > prime cause for degree of ignorence they are having inside, pls note

> > > that earth sign gives strong physic, In Swami Ji's makar lagna chart,

> > > Lagna (makar) is earth sign, lagna lord is also placed in Kanya which is

> > > another earth sign, lagna is vergottam, Lagnesh Sani is in Vrisabha

> > > navamsa another earth sign. In any chart, kendras are very important

> > > to determine physic, Swami Ji's chart you get mangal is in his mesh

> > > rashi in 4'th house aspected by guru from 10'th house, this is more then

> > > enough for him to have strong physic. He didn't have much obesity,

> > > however, he put on some fat in Guru's dasa from year of 1892 onwards.

> > > Apart from a strong physic, Swami Vivekananda was very handsome, Jyotish

> > > student should notice Sukra is placed in lagna on meena navamsa where it

> > > get's exaltation. Meena and Sukra both denotes water element in body,

> > > further, Budha is also on the lagna which made him smart young and

> > > energetic look, With a precise observation you w'd notice that Swami

> > > Vivekananda' s nose is not pointed or sharp, it's somewhat flat, an

> > > indicatioin of makar lagna. Rahu - Ketu axis in 5-11 houses, provided

> > > him muslim teachers, friends in the early stage of life, later on, we

> > > are aware how much admiration he received in the western world.

> > > Jyotish student should never forget that Swami Vivekanada's one elder

> > > brother and sister as well as three younger sister's were died early in

> > > life, you should notice Rahu's presence in 11'th house who is aspected

> > > by Sani from 9'th house, Sani also aspects his 3rd house and this

> > > aspect's malificance is extremely increased by mangal's aspcet on 3rd

> > > lord guru. Those who took dhanu lagna were unaware of death of elder

> > > as well as yunger siblings therefore their mistake didn't strike them,

> > > If they were not unaware, they were scrupulous in their study.

> > > Father's death is another pointer that is seen from makar lagna only

> > > three fold afflictions -

> > > * Karaka affliction - Ravi (Sun) is in 12'th house.

> > > * 10'th house affliction - 12'th lord guru is in 10'th house,

> > > aspected by mars.

> > > * 9'th house affliction - Sani in 9'th house on kanya and navamesh

> > > budh on lagna.

> > > On 25'th Feb 1884, when rahu transited tula in his 10'th house and

> > > mangal aspected this rahu as well as guru in rahu dasa, Father died.

> > > On 16 August 1886, Thakur Ram Krishna died when rahu afflicted both ravi

> > > (sun), karaka for father and budh the 9'th lord in same rahu dasa.

> > > On 31'st may 1893, he went on his first sea travel, 12'th lord guru was

> > > transiting his 4'th house in conjunction with Rahu, Rahu is in 11'th

> > > house it's a clear indication of departing motherland, what's important

> > > is dasa was also of 12'th lord guru and antar was that of budh who is

> > > 9'th lord. His lagna is merely of 0.4 to 0.5 degrees this along with

> > > factor 8'th lord's placement in 12'th house gave him short life, any

> > > body who is born with less then one degree of lagna is subject to short

> > > life unless there is no blessing in the chart. Maha Samadhi He left

> > > world on 4'th july 1902, when Lagna and 2nd lord Sani was in conjunction

> > > with 3rd and 12'th lord guru, both were retro, 7'th lord chandrama

> > > ruling mind was in exaltation but afflicted by mangal, mangal is 11'th

> > > lord, this combination shows Ikschha Mrityu. With Dhanu lagna, you get

> > > Rahu in 12'th house, aspected by Sani as well as Mngal, 8'th house is

> > > also aspected by mangal, this is clear indication of a fatal or

> > > accidental death, how they stalwarts ignore this combination they never

> > > bothered a justification. In a letter to Swami Achyutananda on 11'th

> > > august 1897, he had written that he will remain alive for more 5-6

> > > years, in 1901, in a speech in Dhaka he declared that he will remain

> > > alive maximum one more year and finaly on 28'th march 1902 again he told

> > > to bhagini Nivedita that he w'd not like to complete his 40'th year.

> > > On 4'th July 1902, he did kali puja and therefter sit for meditation and

> > > then died, some blood was seen coming out of nostrils. few Jyotish

> > > students raised question about D-20 or vismansa, I w'd ask them to take

> > > note of makar lagna's vismansa, he was born with first vismansa of makar

> > > lagna whose lord is Kali, every body is well aware that thakur and

> > > vivekananda both were devotee of mother kali, further, pls note that

> > > sani and chandrama are in 9'th house of worship, it also shows devotion

> > > to mother god, further, chandram is same kanya vismanasa of kanya rasi

> > > of 9'th house of natal horoscope. Why they are crying : Their

> > > cry is hiden in their incompetency they live by other's (BV Raman or K N

> > > Rao etc.) name, work and talent, and in any case when any shortcoming or

> > > mistake or omission etc is notified, they get scared of. Do not get

> > > scare rather get the benefit of the work done for you, you need right

> > > knowledge and this is given to you without any expectations from you

> > > people. regards, Utkal.

> >

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