Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so many groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established by those 18 founder sages. Self study is key if direction is available. Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like this : http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> This article reveals several things like : 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to become a cheat. 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to become a cheat. 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, SARAWALI, JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality astrology is spread. We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. Long Live Paramparas !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Hi, There is one correction for a typo - 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - Go through the link. http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> Utkal. , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so many > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established by > those 18 founder sages. > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > this : > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 > <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> > > This article reveals several things like : > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to become > a cheat. > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to become > a cheat. > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, SARAWALI, > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > astrology is spread. > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Dear Utkal ji, Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted is about the following and I quote from the article :- " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. " It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. Regards, Nandini , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > Hi, > > There is one correction for a typo - > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - > Go through the link. > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 > <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> > > Utkal. > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > many > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established > by > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > > this : > > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 > > <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > become > > a cheat. > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > become > > a cheat. > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > SARAWALI, > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > > astrology is spread. > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Punah kahan se pragat hue guru. Kahan tapasya karne to nahin chale gaye the aur wahan se gyan prapt kar ke laute lagte hain...... lage raho..... Mouji Ram ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Fri, March 5, 2010 9:14:35 AM Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so many groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established by those 18 founder sages. Self study is key if direction is available. Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like this : http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> This article reveals several things like : 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to become a cheat. 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to become a cheat. 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, SARAWALI, JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality astrology is spread. We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. Long Live Paramparas !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Nandini Ji, Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I regret. http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. JOA website charges are : * For one chart reading - USD49. * For one matchmaking USD 97. In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is only with JOA. I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. regards, Utkal , " nandini " <kakan_leo wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. " > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > Regards, > Nandini > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - > > Go through the link. > > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 > > <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > many > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established > > by > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > > > this : > > > > > > http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274 > > > <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=274> > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > SARAWALI, > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. regards, Mouji ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Nandini Ji, Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I regret. http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. JOA website charges are : * For one chart reading - USD49. * For one matchmaking USD 97. In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is only with JOA. I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. regards, Utkal , " nandini " <kakan_leo@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. " > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > Regards, > Nandini > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - > > Go through the link. > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > many > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established > > by > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > > > this : > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > SARAWALI, > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Manoj, I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya Bhawan - * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best students. * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. * You can call any body from ICAS and team. * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all togather all of them. The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda's chart - Dhanu Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be concealed. Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do a leap frog, feel free to join : www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing <http://www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing> Utkal. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ________________________________ > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi > > Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > > Nandini Ji, > > Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I > regret. > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn > astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other > astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. > > JOA website charges are : > > * For one chart reading - USD49. > * For one matchmaking USD 97. > > In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged > more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA > team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is > placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is > only with JOA. > > I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. > > regards, > Utkal > > , " nandini " kakan_leo@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted > is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, > so many, these days. " > > > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > > > Regards, > > Nandini > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat > - > > > Go through the link. > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > > many > > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish > established > > > by > > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing > like > > > > this : > > > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > > SARAWALI, > > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good > quality > > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that > time > > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get > true > > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 There is no need for that, because you cant go beyond Swami Vivekananda's wrong chart. Now here is something for you and for others on the group to realise what you are:- Utkal says:  Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other astrologers, JOA’s payment list is given on their web site.  MY COMMENT  Where has it been said? Is it not a deliberate and mischievous distortion of a deluded man who has not been able to convince people that he should be accepted as an astrological genius ?  Utkal says  In the artical, seems, it’s said that some of other astrologers charged more then JOA’s charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11’th lord Merc is placed in 9’th house on it’s inimical sign , as this great knowledge is only with JOA.  MY COMMENT  Where has it been said? Is it not a deliberate and mischievous distortion of a deluded man who has not been able to convince people that he should be accepted as an astrological genius ?  UTKAL SAYS  This article reveals several things like : 1. 9’th lord Sun in 10’th house leads one to become a cheat. 2. Jup of Pisces in 8’th house leads one to become a cheat. 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6’th house leads one to become a cheat. 4. 9’th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. 5. Jup’s aspect on Lagna where 9’th lord is present leads one to become a cheat. 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. 7. 10’th and 3’rd lord Venus in 9’th house on Aries leads one to become a cheat. 8. 11’th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, SARAWALI, JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI.  MY COMMENT Nowhere in the article a single sentence written by Utkal is there.What is his intention? Is it not clear that he needs sympathy and a psychiatric treatment hoping that he gets cured though I have not seen a single case of such mental deformity being cured.  The alternative is to remove him from the list if the moderator wants sane discussions without mischievous misquotations and deliberate lies to spread. In this case it was caught fortunately by a contributor Nandini whosoever she or he may be.  PS  This Utkal Panigrahi is Lalit Mishra who had circulated a letter saying that he had realised God unlike others to which P.V.Narasimha Rao gave an appropriate answer. Does it support my argument for sympathy and psychiatric treatment!!  And I am also pasting the article below for the group members to see for themselves, what a liar he is.  Manoj  ETERNAL INDIA 28 - ASTROLOGER CHEAT  KN RAO 17 February 2010, 6:27 PM From the days of Adi Shankaracharya along with great spiritual masters, there have existed in India, as elsewhere in the world, the pseudo religious gurus who have cheated their disciples of their property but never relieved them of their pain, as Tulsidas says. In these days of television astrology in India (with the pseudo-religious astrologers dressed as priests or even " gurus " making lots of money because they get free advertisement through their television programs) and sprawling internet astrological groups which have invariably some graceless participants always showing their low upbringing at the earliest, it is rare to come across subtle predictions. See this given by a woman astrologer. One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. What happened to one such individual is being narrated here. The horoscope being discussed here is baffling and astrologers who do not know some subtle points (I have given the combination occurring here in some book) are bound to go wrong.Case history His is a pathological case from astrological point of view. He consults anyone who claims to be an astrologer and pays them handsomely. He will not hesitate to get any shanti (upayas or remedial measures) done because of his keenest desire to grow richer though he had been rich once. Aatmakaraka He also learnt some astrology but had no time to do it seriously and develop an insight into the subject for which no one can blame him. He started showing his horoscope to many astrologers and had even nadi readings done and the prediction by all, except one woman astrologer, was that his Mercury dasha starting from 24 July 2004 would be a period of disaster. I have been reminded by a student of mine that when he had come to me, I had told him that he would have his court cases relating to properties and that he would be on the losing side mostly. The payments he made consultations and shantis From time to time he spent at the minimum rate of two thousand and one hundred rupees to five thousand rupees for consultation. In addition, he got shantis done including a south Indian Brahmin who charged annually thirty six thousand, at the rate of three thousand rupees a month to " keep all the malefic planets in his horoscope under full control " . He had many shops and properties and sold finer garment particularly saris from which he made huge profits. His troubles started as soon as the antardasha of Jupiter in the mahadasha of Saturn started from 10 January 2002. In panic, he ran from astrologer to another and all of them assured him (seeing his coming period of Mercury) that his future was bright and that he would become richer than he was but ... In that " but " was concealed the story of the greed of astrologers each one of whom made lot of money from him in this period. They judged, hoped and expected that in his Mercury dasha, his second and the eleventh lord, he would earn fabulously and he would thank them for such a " brilliant " prediction. The notable dasha periods in this case were: Saturn Mahadasha from 24 July 1985 to 24 July 2004 Saturn-Jupiter dasha from 10 January 2002 to 24 July 2004. First see in the birth horoscope Jupiter the eighth lord in the eighth house aspected by Saturn and Mars. It is a combination for Humiliation.Chaturthamsha In Jaimini’s Chara dasha the dasha of Mesha was starting from 3 June 2006 and this dasha will fall in the eighth house from Karakamsha. Additionally, Atmakaraka Saturn falls in the tenth house. The disaster looming is visible. What could have Upayas done? The only sage advice would have been to be cautious in plans for expansion and intensive investments. But destiny has its own role. A multi millionaire earlier, now he is reduced not to a penurious level but has fallen steeply from his earlier level of booming business and enviable prosperity. And finally the subtle point which this woman astrologer remembered, given in an article of mine, clinched the prediction she gave of looming disaster. She wanted to join one of the astrology groups for internet discussion. I advised her not to do as there are many astro-viruses circulating who do not discuss technically and academically but attack each other gracelessly showing their low upbringing. This is also eternal India---the nakshatra shuchi referred to by VarahamihiraNow see the Chaturthamsha and see the position of Jupiter and Mercury in them for the story to unfold. If those astrologers who had exploited him, known astrology properly instead of greedily wanting to cheat him in the name of shantis, they could have seen the danger easily. But these UPAYACHARYAS do not know astrology and will never miss the chance to exploit these gullible rich people ever.Saturn, Amatyakaraka Mercury, Bhratrikaraka Venus, Matrukaraka Jupiter, Putrakaraka Sun, Gnatikaraka Moon, Darakaraka Mars ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Sun, March 7, 2010 11:44:52 PM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Manoj, I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya Bhawan - * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best students. * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. * You can call any body from ICAS and team. * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all togather all of them. The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be concealed. Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do a leap frog, feel free to join : www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> Utkal. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ... > > Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > > Nandini Ji, > > Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I > regret. > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn > astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other > astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. > > JOA website charges are : > > * For one chart reading - USD49. > * For one matchmaking USD 97. > > In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged > more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA > team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is > placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is > only with JOA. > > I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. > > regards, > Utkal > > , " nandini " kakan_leo@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted > is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, > so many, these days. " > > > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > > > Regards, > > Nandini > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat > - > > > Go through the link. > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > > many > > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish > established > > > by > > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing > like > > > > this : > > > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > > SARAWALI, > > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good > quality > > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that > time > > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get > true > > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Group, Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. Pandiyan Mudaliyar , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > Manoj, > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > Bhawan - > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > students. > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > togather all of them. > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda's chart - Dhanu > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > concealed. > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing > <http://www.Vedic Astrologyandhealing> > > > Utkal. > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > catch up with him. > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > can hold on this. > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > of your choice. > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > house. > > > > regards, > > > > Mouji > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I challenged for a debate here. If you wish to have a debate with all the people you list below, go and ask them. I am not here on their behalf. My challenge is still open, despite your Capricorn lagna being rejected by most of the people on this list, who are known. Manoj ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Sun, March 7, 2010 11:44:52 PM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Manoj, I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya Bhawan - * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best students. * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. * You can call any body from ICAS and team. * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all togather all of them. The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be concealed. Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do a leap frog, feel free to join : www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> Utkal. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ... > > Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > > Nandini Ji, > > Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I > regret. > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn > astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other > astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. > > JOA website charges are : > > * For one chart reading - USD49. > * For one matchmaking USD 97. > > In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged > more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA > team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is > placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is > only with JOA. > > I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. > > regards, > Utkal > > , " nandini " kakan_leo@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Utkal ji, > > > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted > is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, > so many, these days. " > > > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > > > Regards, > > Nandini > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat > - > > > Go through the link. > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > > many > > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish > established > > > by > > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing > like > > > > this : > > > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > > become > > > > a cheat. > > > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > > SARAWALI, > > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good > quality > > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that > time > > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get > true > > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Respected Members of this forum,  I came across to the following beautifull links about verification of Obama's physique and also validation of his life track by Rao.  http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=147  http://vlivina.blogspot.com/2008/06/president-obama.htm  But Obama's Mommy got birth certificate from hospital 50 yrs back of his birth as follows -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg  If anybody is having link of his birth analysis by real time ie authentic one, please forward it to me as i am preparing some article on him.  warmest regards, Nupra Bansal --- On Sun, 7/3/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Re: Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 3:45 PM  Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. regards, Mouji ____________ _________ _________ __ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Nandini Ji, Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I regret. http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. JOA website charges are : * For one chart reading - USD49. * For one matchmaking USD 97. In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is only with JOA. I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. regards, Utkal , " nandini " <kakan_leo@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. " > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > Regards, > Nandini > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - > > Go through the link. > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > many > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established > > by > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > > > this : > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > SARAWALI, > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sorry dear members as second link i pasted wrongly, it is as below  http://vlivina.blogspot.com/2008/06/president-obama.html  bye and love  warmest regards, Nupur Bansal --- On Mon, 8/3/10, Koyal Boli <bolikoyal wrote: Koyal Boli <bolikoyal Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools Monday, 8 March, 2010, 1:11 PM  Respected Members of this forum,  I came across to the following beautifull links about verification of Obama's physique and also validation of his life track by Rao.  http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=147  http://vlivina. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/president- obama.htm  But Obama's Mommy got birth certificate from hospital 50 yrs back of his birth as follows -  http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ File:BarackObama CertificationOfL iveBirthHawaii. jpg  If anybody is having link of his birth analysis by real time ie authentic one, please forward it to me as i am preparing some article on him.  warmest regards, Nupra Bansal --- On Sun, 7/3/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > Re: Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 3:45 PM  Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would catch up with him. You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you can hold on this. I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter of your choice. Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th house. regards, Mouji ____________ _________ _________ __ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > Sun, March 7, 2010 2:17:14 AM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Nandini Ji, Given link is correct, I happen to do a mistake in writing, for which I regret. http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> Link says, because of combinations in his chart, the guy didnt learn astrology sincerly and in his bad time, he made more payments to other astrologers, JOA's payment list is given on their web site. JOA website charges are : * For one chart reading - USD49. * For one matchmaking USD 97. In the artical, seems, it's said that some of other astrologers charged more then JOA's charges, this is how this guy got cheated, but for JOA team, everybody overlooked a small thing that 2nd and 11'th lord Merc is placed in 9'th house on it's inimical sign , as this great knowledge is only with JOA. I thought, this is an achievement of their Parampara. regards, Utkal , " nandini " <kakan_leo@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Utkal ji, > > Did you post an incorrect link by mistake? Because the link you posted is about the following and I quote from the article :- > > " One businessman fell a victim to astrologer cheats, like of course, so many, these days. " > > It is not the horoscope of a cheat but of a businessman in distress. > > Regards, > Nandini > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There is one correction for a typo - > > > > 1. Prof Rao said - Lagna lord Sun in 10'th house, makes one a cheat - > > Go through the link. > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > These day's when most of the classics are readily available and so > > many > > > groups are active, we have opportunity to follow Jyotish established > > by > > > those 18 founder sages. > > > > > > Self study is key if direction is available. > > > > > > Prof K N Rao is still writing in his web site and he is writing like > > > this : > > > > > > http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=274> > > > > > > This article reveals several things like : > > > > > > 1. 9'th lord Sun in 10'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 2. Jup of Pisces in 8'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 3. Saturn of Capricorn in 6'th house leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 4. 9'th lord Mars in Lagna on leo leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 5. Jup's aspect on Lagna where 9'th lord is present leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 6. Moon of Libra aspected by Jup leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > 7. 10'th and 3'rd lord Venus in 9'th house on Aries leads one to > > become > > > a cheat. > > > > > > 8. 11'th Rahu leads one to become a cheat. > > > > > > All of above points are well supported in classics like BPHS, > > SARAWALI, > > > JATAK PARIJAATA, SARVARTH CHINTAMANI. > > > > > > This shows there is a sound plateform for parampara, and good quality > > > astrology is spread. > > > > > > We once seen mouji posted a false chart of Chandra Shekhar that time > > > also JOA's website helped in production of truth, we could get true > > > horoscope analyzed by Prof Rao himself. > > > > > > Long Live Paramparas !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he wants others to believe he is. Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. regards, Manoj ________________________________ pandiyanmudaliyar <pandiyanmudaliyar Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools  Dear Group, Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. Pandiyan Mudaliyar , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > Manoj, > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > Bhawan - > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > students. > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > togather all of them. > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > concealed. > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > Utkal. > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > catch up with him. > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > can hold on this. > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > of your choice. > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > house. > > > > regards, > > > > Mouji > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yar Mouji, Group has seen you, check level of your parampara. 1. Asking reasons how to predict at what place a person wd work in order to make his luck, I refused telling you the reasoning becoz of your attitude and manipulative acts. 2. Presenting false charts to deflecting group's attention from useful discussion, a discussion which could help everybody regardless of parampara and school. 3. Instead of learning from significant predictions like no immediate divison of states, at least not before 3 yrs for andhra, removal of troops from kashmir which are proven absolutely correct by post prediction events, You tried to mislead group beause nobody in your JOA parampara could do so, however, purose of doing such predictions was to let astrologer community aware that planets and places are connected and to let them realize sole dependence on countries chart doesnt help much. So, if you chagne your attitude of nuisance creation, wd help you and your parampara Well, I have an interesting collection of deeds of your parampara. Utkal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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