Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. Let's watch it closely. Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup functions. Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get beatings, note the names and faces..... Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication and media. It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics begins. What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - * http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278> * http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279> Read on articals they are saying like following - * About R Santhanam - /// ..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used them in his monthly magazine. //// I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no end of jealous. * About Dr BV Raman - /// I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without any explanation /// * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - /// .... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely different date and year of birth. /// * http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278> * http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279 <http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he wants others to believe he is. > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > Dear Group, > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > > Bhawan - > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > students. > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > togather all of them. > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > concealed. > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > catch up with him. > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > > can hold on this. > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > > of your choice. > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > house. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Again you are showing your ignorance by citing and quoting these articles because everyone of that group knows it very well. Search the archives of Astrological Magazine and you will find that suddenly the lagnas were switched. Were you even born then? If you were, and if you were into astrology then, you would have known it yourself. And that is not very long back because Rajiv Gandhi died only in 1991 and Indira Gandhi in 1984. Why not ask Gayatri Devi Vasudev about it, because then she was part of Astrological Magazine, which she is not now. There are many frequencies existing in the universe which a human ear cant pick, doesnt mean those frequencies do not exist. Now you have further confirmed that you are a completely deranged mind with some hidden motive. What is your motive? Why did you present a distorted figure? You are not proving anything by writing/citing these articles because all these things he has written many times in his books and told his students many times. So it is becoming pretty obvious that you are here only for your vested interests and not astrology. And what exposure are you talking abut. This was the evidence you talked so boistrously this morning. This is in knowledge of everyone reading useful astrology books. Dr. Raman’s family himself criticised him. Have you read that? How could you because you have only started now. You are some mentally challenged person out there in the wilderness of this world trying to find out which way the sun rises. You want to prove astrologically without giving any astrological reasonnig. P.V. Narasimha Rao analysed a situation and you come out with a theory, Jupiter approaching Pisces and Venus in Pisces. I have given you some dates for that in one of the mails. First go pick those dates and then again go into hiding for three days and again come back with some absurd theories, which is your modus operandi. So much for now, rest to follow. Manoj ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists  We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. Let's watch it closely. Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup functions. Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get beatings, note the names and faces..... Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication and media. It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics begins. What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> Read on articals they are saying like following - * About R Santhanam - /// ..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used them in his monthly magazine. //// I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no end of jealous. * About Dr BV Raman - /// I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without any explanation /// * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - /// .... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely different date and year of birth. /// * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he wants others to believe he is. > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > Dear Group, > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > > Bhawan - > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > students. > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > togather all of them. > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > concealed. > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > catch up with him. > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > > can hold on this. > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > > of your choice. > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > house. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. "  Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation.  In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity.  What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets.  Manoj ________________________________ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists  We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. Let's watch it closely. Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup functions. Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get beatings, note the names and faces..... Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication and media. It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics begins. What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> Read on articals they are saying like following - * About R Santhanam - /// ..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used them in his monthly magazine. //// I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no end of jealous. * About Dr BV Raman - /// I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without any explanation /// * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - /// .... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely different date and year of birth. /// * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he wants others to believe he is. > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > Dear Group, > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > > Bhawan - > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > students. > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > togather all of them. > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > concealed. > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > catch up with him. > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > > can hold on this. > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > > of your choice. > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > house. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals. Manoj ________________________________ Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists  " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. "  Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation.  In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity.  What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets.  Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists  We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. Let's watch it closely. Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup functions. Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get beatings, note the names and faces..... Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication and media. It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics begins. What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> Read on articals they are saying like following - * About R Santhanam - /// ..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used them in his monthly magazine. //// I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no end of jealous. * About Dr BV Raman - /// I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without any explanation /// * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - /// .... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely different date and year of birth. /// * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he wants others to believe he is. > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > Â > Dear Group, > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of view of astrology. > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti Vidya > > Bhawan - > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > students. > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > togather all of them. > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > concealed. > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of well, do > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got cheated at > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now not in > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > catch up with him. > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I am > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I surey > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than you > > can hold on this. > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any subject/matter > > of your choice. > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the filed. > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > house. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 In olden days, Jyotish was being practised oto level liable and that Jyotish we should invoke. You dont see how K N Rao abused R Santhanam, B V Raman, Sanjay Rath just because of his ego. When you will leave his hand then at the same time he will abuse you and will write that i wrote preface for Manoj Pathak now he ..... Pawan Maurya , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals. > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > >  > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. " >  > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation. >  > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity. >  > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. >  > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > >  > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit > changes. > > Let's watch it closely. > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup > functions. > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get > beatings, note the names and faces..... > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication > and media. > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics > begins. > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > Read on articals they are saying like following - > > * About R Santhanam - > > /// > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used > them in his monthly magazine. > > //// > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no > end of jealous. > > * About Dr BV Raman - > > /// > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without > any explanation > > /// > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - > > /// > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely > different date and year of birth. > > /// > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he > wants others to believe he is. > > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > > > Â > > Dear Group, > > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of > view of astrology. > > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti > Vidya > > > Bhawan - > > > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > > students. > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > > togather all of them. > > > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > > concealed. > > > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of > well, do > > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got > cheated at > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now > not in > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > > catch up with him. > > > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I > am > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I > surey > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than > you > > > can hold on this. > > > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any > subject/matter > > > of your choice. > > > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the > filed. > > > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > > house. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 // What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. // You also provided details of Chandra Shekhar, do you remember... By providing details you just wanted to show that classics are wrong... If somebody talks from classics then it is wrong... what a perverted moron you are, Manoj Pathak. Pawan Maurya , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. " >  > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation. >  > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity. >  > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. >  > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > >  > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit > changes. > > Let's watch it closely. > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup > functions. > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get > beatings, note the names and faces..... > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication > and media. > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics > begins. > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > Read on articals they are saying like following - > > * About R Santhanam - > > /// > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used > them in his monthly magazine. > > //// > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no > end of jealous. > > * About Dr BV Raman - > > /// > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without > any explanation > > /// > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - > > /// > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely > different date and year of birth. > > /// > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he > wants others to believe he is. > > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > > > Â > > Dear Group, > > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of > view of astrology. > > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti > Vidya > > > Bhawan - > > > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > > students. > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > > togather all of them. > > > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > > concealed. > > > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of > well, do > > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got > cheated at > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now > not in > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > > catch up with him. > > > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I > am > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I > surey > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than > you > > > can hold on this. > > > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any > subject/matter > > > of your choice. > > > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the > filed. > > > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > > house. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon feeding. Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for this long period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits cancer, this has impacted earth's internal status, information was given to flag bearers of your parampara before occurences of earth quakes but they being unaware couldnt understand as for decades they have been doing a cozy job of post event analysis just win baseless fame, that time is over now, new generation with vast study has come to astrology, agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont work. Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop doing justification of one's life with false birth data. In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of case with wrong data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh mujibur rahmaan etc, forget time of birth, even date of birth is wrong, who is responsible for the money that readers are paying ? Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals. > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > Â > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today wâd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Marâs debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose itâs current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. " > Â > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation. > Â > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity. > Â > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. > Â > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > Â > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit > changes. > > Let's watch it closely. > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup > functions. > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get > beatings, note the names and faces..... > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication > and media. > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics > begins. > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > Read on articals they are saying like following - > > * About R Santhanam - > > /// > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used > them in his monthly magazine. > > //// > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no > end of jealous. > > * About Dr BV Raman - > > /// > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without > any explanation > > /// > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - > > /// > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely > different date and year of birth. > > /// > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he > wants others to believe he is. > > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > > > Ã > > Dear Group, > > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of > view of astrology. > > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti > Vidya > > > Bhawan - > > > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > > students. > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > > togather all of them. > > > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > > concealed. > > > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of > well, do > > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got > cheated at > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now > not in > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > > catch up with him. > > > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I > am > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I > surey > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than > you > > > can hold on this. > > > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any > subject/matter > > > of your choice. > > > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the > filed. > > > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > > house. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 So is it jupiter's sojourn through neecha rashi associated with rahu backing off from Jupiter (sag) or mars in prolonged debility or this jupiter-venus factor that has been attributed to be the great unveiller ... or everything rolled together? Or is there some other factor that has not entered in the Akhaada of Jyotish, yet? One thing that everyone in general must pay heed to is that jyotish rules and considerations have enough flexibility in interpretation to pretty much explain away anything with anything! Only by always remaining aware of that possibility can we avoid the mayavini component that is as inherent in Jyotish as it is in the " human experience " that it is intended to describe and perhaps on occasion, explain as well...! Regards to all, Rohiniranjan , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon feeding. > > Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for this long period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits cancer, this has impacted earth's internal status, information was given to flag bearers of your parampara before occurences of earth quakes but they being unaware couldnt understand as for decades they have been doing a cozy job of post event analysis just win baseless fame, that time is over now, new generation with vast study has come to astrology, agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont work. > > Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop doing justification of one's life with false birth data. > > In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of case with wrong data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh mujibur rahmaan etc, forget time of birth, even date of birth is wrong, who is responsible for the money that readers are paying ? > > Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people. > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals. > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> > > > > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM > > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > > > Â > > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today wâd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Marâs debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose itâs current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. " > > Â > > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation. > > Â > > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity. > > Â > > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. > > Â > > Manoj > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM > > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > > > Â > > > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish > > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today > > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. > > > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can > > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to > > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but > > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and > > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit > > changes. > > > > Let's watch it closely. > > > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, > > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. > > > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for > > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup > > functions. > > > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and > > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. > > > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already > > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the > > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's > > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for > > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social > > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on > > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get > > beatings, note the names and faces..... > > > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at > > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication > > and media. > > > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing > > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! > > > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating > > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics > > begins. > > > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd > > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - > > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > > > Read on articals they are saying like following - > > > > * About R Santhanam - > > > > /// > > > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a > > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological > > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly > > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked > > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often > > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. > > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. > > > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political > > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used > > them in his monthly magazine. > > > > //// > > > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living > > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are > > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who > > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, > > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has > > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no > > end of jealous. > > > > * About Dr BV Raman - > > > > /// > > > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such > > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more > > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both > > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of > > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without > > any explanation > > > > /// > > > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - > > > > /// > > > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on > > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain > > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own > > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely > > different date and year of birth. > > > > /// > > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > > > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive > > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are > > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he > > wants others to believe he is. > > > > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God > > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > > > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > > > > > Ã > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of > > view of astrology. > > > > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group > > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > > > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti > > Vidya > > > > Bhawan - > > > > > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > > > students. > > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > > > togather all of them. > > > > > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > > > concealed. > > > > > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of > > well, do > > > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got > > cheated at > > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now > > not in > > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > > > catch up with him. > > > > > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I > > am > > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I > > surey > > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than > > you > > > > can hold on this. > > > > > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any > > subject/matter > > > > of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the > > filed. > > > > > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Sir, Jyotish is straightforward like 2 + 2 = 4. Jyotish is not flexible but we make it so because we wish to take liberty in order to accomodate our intentions and ambitions. We have lost the opportunity to establish it's reputation as a science because of politics by certain known Jyotish Akharas in groups, their so called pahalwans are working to divert group members attention. No worries, I have lot more new discoveries that will change the paradigm. regards, Utkal. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > So is it jupiter's sojourn through neecha rashi associated with rahu backing off from Jupiter (sag) or mars in prolonged debility or this jupiter-venus factor that has been attributed to be the great unveiller .... or everything rolled together? > > Or is there some other factor that has not entered in the Akhaada of Jyotish, yet? > > One thing that everyone in general must pay heed to is that jyotish rules and considerations have enough flexibility in interpretation to pretty much explain away anything with anything! Only by always remaining aware of that possibility can we avoid the mayavini component that is as inherent in Jyotish as it is in the " human experience " that it is intended to describe and perhaps on occasion, explain as well...! > > Regards to all, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon feeding. > > > > Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for this long period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits cancer, this has impacted earth's internal status, information was given to flag bearers of your parampara before occurences of earth quakes but they being unaware couldnt understand as for decades they have been doing a cozy job of post event analysis just win baseless fame, that time is over now, new generation with vast study has come to astrology, agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont work. > > > > Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop doing justification of one's life with false birth data. > > > > In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of case with wrong data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh mujibur rahmaan etc, forget time of birth, even date of birth is wrong, who is responsible for the money that readers are paying ? > > > > Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people. > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals. > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> > > > > > > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM > > > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > > > > > Â > > > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today wâd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Marâs debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose itâs current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. " > > > Â > > > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of debilitation. > > > Â > > > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity. > > > Â > > > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar disposition of planets. > > > Â > > > Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM > > > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara Activists > > > > > > Â > > > > > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish > > > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today > > > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. > > > > > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can > > > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to > > > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but > > > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and > > > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit > > > changes. > > > > > > Let's watch it closely. > > > > > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point, > > > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS. > > > > > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for > > > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup > > > functions. > > > > > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and > > > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru. > > > > > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already > > > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the > > > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's > > > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for > > > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social > > > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on > > > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get > > > beatings, note the names and faces..... > > > > > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at > > > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication > > > and media. > > > > > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing > > > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !! > > > > > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating > > > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics > > > begins. > > > > > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd > > > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it - > > > > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > > > > > Read on articals they are saying like following - > > > > > > * About R Santhanam - > > > > > > /// > > > > > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a > > > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological > > > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly > > > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked > > > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often > > > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here. > > > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something. > > > > > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political > > > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used > > > them in his monthly magazine. > > > > > > //// > > > > > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living > > > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are > > > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who > > > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash, > > > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has > > > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no > > > end of jealous. > > > > > > * About Dr BV Raman - > > > > > > /// > > > > > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such > > > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more > > > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both > > > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of > > > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without > > > any explanation > > > > > > /// > > > > > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan - > > > > > > /// > > > > > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on > > > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain > > > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own > > > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely > > > different date and year of birth. > > > > > > /// > > > > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278> > > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279 > > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279> > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar, > > > > > > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive > > > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are > > > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he > > > wants others to believe he is. > > > > > > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God > > > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ... > > > > > > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM > > > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools > > > > > > > > Ã > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of > > > view of astrology. > > > > > > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group > > > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate. > > > > > > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj, > > > > > > > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti > > > Vidya > > > > > Bhawan - > > > > > > > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best > > > > > students. > > > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends. > > > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team. > > > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team. > > > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team. > > > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called. > > > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all > > > > > togather all of them. > > > > > > > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu > > > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be > > > > > concealed. > > > > > > > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of > > > well, do > > > > > a leap frog, feel free to join : > > > > > > > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing > > > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got > > > cheated at > > > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now > > > not in > > > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would > > > > > catch up with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed > > > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I > > > am > > > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I > > > surey > > > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than > > > you > > > > > can hold on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any > > > subject/matter > > > > > of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you > > > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the > > > filed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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