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We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

 

Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes.

 

Let's watch it closely.

 

Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

 

In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

functions.

 

Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

 

Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

beatings, note the names and faces.....

 

Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

and media.

 

It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

 

Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

begins.

 

What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

 

* http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278

<http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278>

* http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279

<http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279>

 

Read on articals they are saying like following -

 

* About R Santhanam -

 

///

 

..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

 

Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

them in his monthly magazine.

 

////

 

I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

end of jealous.

 

 

 

* About Dr BV Raman -

 

///

 

I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

any explanation

 

///

 

 

 

* About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

 

///

 

.... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

different date and year of birth.

 

///

 

 

 

* http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278

<http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=278>

* http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279

<http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=279>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

>

> Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

wants others to believe he is.

>

> Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

>

> regards,

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar

>

> Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

>

> Â

> Dear Group,

>

> Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

view of astrology.

>

> It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

>

> Pandiyan Mudaliyar

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Manoj,

> >

> > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

Vidya

> > Bhawan -

> >

> > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > students.

> > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > togather all of them.

> >

> > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > concealed.

> >

> > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

well, do

> > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> >

> > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> >

> >

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > >

> > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

cheated at

> > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

not in

> > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > catch up with him.

> > >

> > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

am

> > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

surey

> > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

you

> > can hold on this.

> > >

> > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

subject/matter

> > of your choice.

> > >

> > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

filed.

> > >

> > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > house.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Mouji

> >

>

 

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Again you are showing your ignorance by citing and quoting these articles

because everyone of that group knows it very well.

Search the archives of Astrological Magazine and you will find that suddenly the

lagnas were switched. Were you even born then? If you were, and if you were into

astrology then, you would have known it yourself. And that is not very long back

because Rajiv Gandhi died only in 1991 and Indira Gandhi in 1984. Why not ask

Gayatri Devi Vasudev about it, because then she was part of Astrological

Magazine, which she is not now.

There are many frequencies existing in the universe which a human ear cant pick,

doesnt mean those frequencies do not exist.

Now you have further confirmed that you are a completely deranged mind with some

hidden motive. What is your motive? Why did you present a distorted figure? You

are not proving anything by writing/citing these articles because all these

things he has written many times in his books and told his students many times.

So it is becoming pretty obvious that you are here only for your vested

interests and not astrology.

And what exposure are you talking abut. This was the evidence you talked so

boistrously this morning. This is in knowledge of everyone reading useful

astrology books.

Dr. Raman’s family himself criticised him. Have you read that? How could you

because you have only started now. You are some mentally challenged person out

there in the wilderness of this world trying to find out which way the sun

rises. You want to prove astrologically without giving any astrological

reasonnig.

P.V. Narasimha Rao analysed a situation and you come out with a theory, Jupiter

approaching Pisces and Venus in Pisces. I have given you some dates for that in

one of the mails. First go pick those dates and then again go into hiding for

three days and again come back with some absurd theories, which is your modus

operandi.

So much for now, rest to follow.

Manoj

 

 

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

 

 

 

We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

 

Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes.

 

Let's watch it closely.

 

Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

 

In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

functions.

 

Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

 

Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

beatings, note the names and faces.....

 

Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

and media.

 

It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

 

Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

begins.

 

What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

Read on articals they are saying like following -

 

* About R Santhanam -

 

///

 

..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

 

Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

them in his monthly magazine.

 

////

 

I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

end of jealous.

 

* About Dr BV Raman -

 

///

 

I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

any explanation

 

///

 

* About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

 

///

 

.... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

different date and year of birth.

 

///

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

>

> Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

wants others to believe he is.

>

> Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

>

> regards,

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

>

> Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

>

> Â

> Dear Group,

>

> Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

view of astrology.

>

> It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

>

> Pandiyan Mudaliyar

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Manoj,

> >

> > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

Vidya

> > Bhawan -

> >

> > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > students.

> > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > togather all of them.

> >

> > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > concealed.

> >

> > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

well, do

> > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> >

> > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> >

> >

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > >

> > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

cheated at

> > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

not in

> > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > catch up with him.

> > >

> > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

am

> > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

surey

> > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

you

> > can hold on this.

> > >

> > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

subject/matter

> > of your choice.

> > >

> > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

filed.

> > >

> > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > house.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Mouji

> >

>

 

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" We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as

a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to

repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s

debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6

degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to

be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in

water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes. "

 

Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now.

In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

 

In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

 

What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar

disposition of planets.

 

Manoj

 

 

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

 

 

 

We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

 

Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes.

 

Let's watch it closely.

 

Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

 

In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

functions.

 

Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

 

Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

beatings, note the names and faces.....

 

Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

and media.

 

It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

 

Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

begins.

 

What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

Read on articals they are saying like following -

 

* About R Santhanam -

 

///

 

..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

 

Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

them in his monthly magazine.

 

////

 

I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

end of jealous.

 

* About Dr BV Raman -

 

///

 

I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

any explanation

 

///

 

* About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

 

///

 

.... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

different date and year of birth.

 

///

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

>

> Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

wants others to believe he is.

>

> Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

>

> regards,

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

>

> Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

>

> Â

> Dear Group,

>

> Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

view of astrology.

>

> It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

>

> Pandiyan Mudaliyar

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Manoj,

> >

> > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

Vidya

> > Bhawan -

> >

> > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > students.

> > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > togather all of them.

> >

> > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > concealed.

> >

> > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

well, do

> > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> >

> > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> >

> >

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > >

> > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

cheated at

> > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

not in

> > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > catch up with him.

> > >

> > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

am

> > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

surey

> > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

you

> > can hold on this.

> > >

> > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

subject/matter

> > of your choice.

> > >

> > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

filed.

> > >

> > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > house.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Mouji

> >

>

 

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What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds out

to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha Rao

and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals.

 

Manoj

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Manoj Kumar <mouji99

 

Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM

Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

 

 

" We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish as

a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to

repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s

debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6

degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to

be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in

water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes. "

 

Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time now.

In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

 

In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

 

What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of similar

disposition of planets.

 

Manoj

 

____________ _________ _________ __

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

 

Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

 

 

 

We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

 

Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes.

 

Let's watch it closely.

 

Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

 

In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

functions.

 

Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

 

Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

beatings, note the names and faces.....

 

Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

and media.

 

It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

 

Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

begins.

 

What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

Read on articals they are saying like following -

 

* About R Santhanam -

 

///

 

..... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

 

Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

them in his monthly magazine.

 

////

 

I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

end of jealous.

 

* About Dr BV Raman -

 

///

 

I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

any explanation

 

///

 

* About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

 

///

 

.... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

different date and year of birth.

 

///

 

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

* http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

<http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:

>

> Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

>

> Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

wants others to believe he is.

>

> Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

>

> regards,

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

>

> Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

>

> Â

> Dear Group,

>

> Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

view of astrology.

>

> It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

>

> Pandiyan Mudaliyar

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Manoj,

> >

> > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

Vidya

> > Bhawan -

> >

> > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > students.

> > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > togather all of them.

> >

> > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > concealed.

> >

> > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

well, do

> > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> >

> > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> >

> >

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > >

> > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

cheated at

> > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

not in

> > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > catch up with him.

> > >

> > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

am

> > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

surey

> > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

you

> > can hold on this.

> > >

> > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

subject/matter

> > of your choice.

> > >

> > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

filed.

> > >

> > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > house.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Mouji

> >

>

 

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In olden days, Jyotish was being practised oto level liable and that Jyotish we

should invoke.

 

You dont see how K N Rao abused R Santhanam, B V Raman, Sanjay Rath just because

of his ego.

 

When you will leave his hand then at the same time he will abuse you and will

write that i wrote preface for Manoj Pathak now he .....

 

Pawan Maurya

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds

out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha

Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals.

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Kumar <mouji99

>

> Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM

> Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

>

>  

> " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish

as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to

repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s

debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6

degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to

be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in

water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes. "

>  

> Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time

now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

>  

> In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

>  

> What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of

similar disposition of planets.

>  

> Manoj

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

>

> Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

> Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

>

>  

>

> We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

> Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

> w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

>

> Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

> says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

> loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

> there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

> air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

> changes.

>

> Let's watch it closely.

>

> Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

> It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

>

> In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

> crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

> functions.

>

> Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

> support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

>

> Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

> reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

> auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

> transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

> elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

> activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

> Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

> beatings, note the names and faces.....

>

> Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

> Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

> and media.

>

> It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

> Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

>

> Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

> chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

> begins.

>

> What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

> get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> Read on articals they are saying like following -

>

> * About R Santhanam -

>

> ///

>

> .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

> hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

> journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

> now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

> up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

> discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

> But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

>

> Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

> horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

> them in his monthly magazine.

>

> ////

>

> I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

> in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

> making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

> translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

> Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

> contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

> end of jealous.

>

> * About Dr BV Raman -

>

> ///

>

> I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

> disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

> than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

> Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

> authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

> any explanation

>

> ///

>

> * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

>

> ///

>

> ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

> September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

> the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

> son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

> different date and year of birth.

>

> ///

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

> >

> > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

> behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

> not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

> wants others to believe he is.

> >

> > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

> gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

> >

> > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

> view of astrology.

> >

> > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

> so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

> >

> > Pandiyan Mudaliyar

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Manoj,

> > >

> > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

> Vidya

> > > Bhawan -

> > >

> > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > > students.

> > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > > togather all of them.

> > >

> > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > > concealed.

> > >

> > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

> well, do

> > > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> > >

> > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> > >

> > >

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > >

> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > > >

> > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

> cheated at

> > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

> not in

> > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > > catch up with him.

> > > >

> > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

> am

> > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

> surey

> > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

> you

> > > can hold on this.

> > > >

> > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

> subject/matter

> > > of your choice.

> > > >

> > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

> filed.

> > > >

> > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > > house.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mouji

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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// What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of

similar disposition of planets. //

 

You also provided details of Chandra Shekhar, do you remember...

 

By providing details you just wanted to show that classics are wrong...

 

If somebody talks from classics then it is wrong...

 

what a perverted moron you are, Manoj Pathak.

 

Pawan Maurya

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish

as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today w’d be rare to

repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Mar’s

debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6

degrees, Earth quakes are to loose it’s current intensity and finally are to

be stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in

water and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

changes. "

>  

> Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time

now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

>  

> In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

>  

> What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of

similar disposition of planets.

>  

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

>

> Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

> Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

>

>  

>

> We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

> Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

> w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

>

> Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

> says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

> loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

> there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

> air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

> changes.

>

> Let's watch it closely.

>

> Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

> It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

>

> In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

> crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

> functions.

>

> Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

> support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

>

> Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

> reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

> auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

> transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

> elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

> activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

> Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

> beatings, note the names and faces.....

>

> Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

> Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

> and media.

>

> It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

> Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

>

> Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

> chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

> begins.

>

> What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

> get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> Read on articals they are saying like following -

>

> * About R Santhanam -

>

> ///

>

> .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

> hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

> journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

> now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

> up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

> discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

> But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

>

> Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

> horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

> them in his monthly magazine.

>

> ////

>

> I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

> in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

> making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

> translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

> Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

> contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

> end of jealous.

>

> * About Dr BV Raman -

>

> ///

>

> I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

> disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

> than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

> Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

> authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

> any explanation

>

> ///

>

> * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

>

> ///

>

> ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

> September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

> the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

> son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

> different date and year of birth.

>

> ///

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

> >

> > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

> behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

> not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

> wants others to believe he is.

> >

> > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

> gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

> >

> > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

> view of astrology.

> >

> > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

> so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

> >

> > Pandiyan Mudaliyar

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Manoj,

> > >

> > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

> Vidya

> > > Bhawan -

> > >

> > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > > students.

> > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > > togather all of them.

> > >

> > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > > concealed.

> > >

> > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

> well, do

> > > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> > >

> > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> > >

> > >

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > >

> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > > >

> > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

> cheated at

> > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

> not in

> > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > > catch up with him.

> > > >

> > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

> am

> > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

> surey

> > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

> you

> > > can hold on this.

> > > >

> > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

> subject/matter

> > > of your choice.

> > > >

> > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

> filed.

> > > >

> > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > > house.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mouji

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon feeding.

 

Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for this long

period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits cancer, this has

impacted earth's internal status, information was given to flag bearers of your

parampara before occurences of earth quakes but they being unaware couldnt

understand as for decades they have been doing a cozy job of post event analysis

just win baseless fame, that time is over now, new generation with vast study

has come to astrology, agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont

work.

 

Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop doing

justification of one's life with false birth data.

 

In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of case with wrong

data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh mujibur rahmaan etc, forget

time of birth, even date of birth is wrong, who is responsible for the money

that readers are paying ?

 

Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people.

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds

out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha

Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals.

>

> Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Kumar <mouji99

>

> Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM

> Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

>

>  

> " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish Jyotish

as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today wâd be rare to

repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Marâs debilitation,

least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes

are to loose itâs current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there

will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air, violence and

explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. "

>  

> Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time

now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

>  

> In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

>  

> What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of

similar disposition of planets.

>  

> Manoj

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

>

> Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

> Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

>

>  

>

> We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

> Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

> w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

>

> Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

> says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

> loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

> there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

> air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

> changes.

>

> Let's watch it closely.

>

> Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

> It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

>

> In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

> crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

> functions.

>

> Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

> support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

>

> Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

> reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

> auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

> transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

> elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

> activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

> Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

> beatings, note the names and faces.....

>

> Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

> Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

> and media.

>

> It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

> Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

>

> Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

> chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

> begins.

>

> What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

> get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> Read on articals they are saying like following -

>

> * About R Santhanam -

>

> ///

>

> .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

> hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

> journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

> now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

> up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

> discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

> But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

>

> Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

> horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

> them in his monthly magazine.

>

> ////

>

> I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

> in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

> making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

> translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

> Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

> contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

> end of jealous.

>

> * About Dr BV Raman -

>

> ///

>

> I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

> disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

> than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

> Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

> authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

> any explanation

>

> ///

>

> * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

>

> ///

>

> ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

> September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

> the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

> son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

> different date and year of birth.

>

> ///

>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

> >

> > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

> behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

> not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

> wants others to believe he is.

> >

> > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

> gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

> >

> > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

> >

> > Ã

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

> view of astrology.

> >

> > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

> so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

> >

> > Pandiyan Mudaliyar

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Manoj,

> > >

> > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

> Vidya

> > > Bhawan -

> > >

> > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > > students.

> > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > > togather all of them.

> > >

> > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > > concealed.

> > >

> > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

> well, do

> > > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> > >

> > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> > >

> > >

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > >

> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > > >

> > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

> cheated at

> > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

> not in

> > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > > catch up with him.

> > > >

> > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

> am

> > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

> surey

> > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

> you

> > > can hold on this.

> > > >

> > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

> subject/matter

> > > of your choice.

> > > >

> > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

> filed.

> > > >

> > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > > house.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mouji

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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So is it jupiter's sojourn through neecha rashi associated with rahu backing off

from Jupiter (sag) or mars in prolonged debility or this jupiter-venus factor

that has been attributed to be the great unveiller ... or everything rolled

together?

 

Or is there some other factor that has not entered in the Akhaada of Jyotish,

yet?

 

One thing that everyone in general must pay heed to is that jyotish rules and

considerations have enough flexibility in interpretation to pretty much explain

away anything with anything! Only by always remaining aware of that possibility

can we avoid the mayavini component that is as inherent in Jyotish as it is in

the " human experience " that it is intended to describe and perhaps on occasion,

explain as well...!

 

Regards to all,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

>

> You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon feeding.

>

> Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for this long

period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits cancer, this has

impacted earth's internal status, information was given to flag bearers of your

parampara before occurences of earth quakes but they being unaware couldnt

understand as for decades they have been doing a cozy job of post event analysis

just win baseless fame, that time is over now, new generation with vast study

has come to astrology, agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont

work.

>

> Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop doing

justification of one's life with false birth data.

>

> In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of case with

wrong data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh mujibur rahmaan etc,

forget time of birth, even date of birth is wrong, who is responsible for the

money that readers are paying ?

>

> Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people.

>

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some perverted minds

out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has been levelled at Narasimha

Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps he moves on to individuals.

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@>

> >

> > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM

> > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity &

Parampara Activists

> >

> >  

> > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today wâd be

rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the remaining period f Marâs

debilitation, least that we can says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6

degrees, Earth quakes are to loose itâs current intensity and finally are to be

stopped and but there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water

and air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. "

> >  

> > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for some time

now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after remaining in sign of

debilitation.

> >  

> > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of Saturn, still

earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

> >  

> > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of examples of

similar disposition of planets.

> >  

> > Manoj

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

> >

> > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

> > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity & Parampara

Activists

> >

> >  

> >

> > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to establish

> > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have today

> > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

> >

> > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we can

> > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to

> > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

> > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and

> > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

> > changes.

> >

> > Let's watch it closely.

> >

> > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the point,

> > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

> >

> > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect for

> > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

> > functions.

> >

> > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status and

> > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

> >

> > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

> > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

> > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

> > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

> > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in social

> > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

> > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS will get

> > beatings, note the names and faces.....

> >

> > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

> > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting communication

> > and media.

> >

> > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

> > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

> >

> > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts generating

> > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

> > begins.

> >

> > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars, You w'd

> > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

> >

> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

> >

> > Read on articals they are saying like following -

> >

> > * About R Santhanam -

> >

> > ///

> >

> > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in a

> > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

> > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a monthly

> > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam picked

> > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam often

> > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given here.

> > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

> >

> > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important political

> > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them, used

> > them in his monthly magazine.

> >

> > ////

> >

> > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are living

> > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family, they are

> > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam who

> > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

> > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

> > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there is no

> > end of jealous.

> >

> > * About Dr BV Raman -

> >

> > ///

> >

> > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for such

> > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for more

> > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and both

> > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some sort of

> > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha without

> > any explanation

> >

> > ///

> >

> > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

> >

> > ///

> >

> > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

> > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books contain

> > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But his own

> > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

> > different date and year of birth.

> >

> > ///

> >

> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

> > >

> > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his motive

> > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things which are

> > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not what he

> > wants others to believe he is.

> > >

> > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce that God

> > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Manoj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

> > >

> > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

> > >

> > > Ã

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the point of

> > view of astrology.

> > >

> > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the group

> > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the debate.

> > >

> > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Manoj,

> > > >

> > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at Bharti

> > Vidya

> > > > Bhawan -

> > > >

> > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his best

> > > > students.

> > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his team.

> > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > > > togather all of them.

> > > >

> > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart - Dhanu

> > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not be

> > > > concealed.

> > > >

> > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out of

> > well, do

> > > > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> > > >

> > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro logyandhealing>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Utkal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

> > cheated at

> > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then, now

> > not in

> > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case would

> > > > catch up with him.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a reputed

> > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with you. I

> > am

> > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one thing I

> > surey

> > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more filth than

> > you

> > > > can hold on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

> > subject/matter

> > > > of your choice.

> > > > >

> > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability and you

> > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

> > filed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in the 9th

> > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mouji

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Sir,

 

Jyotish is straightforward like 2 + 2 = 4. Jyotish is not flexible but

we make it so because we wish to take liberty in order to accomodate our

intentions and ambitions.

 

We have lost the opportunity to establish it's reputation as a science

because of politics by certain known Jyotish Akharas in groups, their so

called pahalwans are working to divert group members attention.

 

No worries, I have lot more new discoveries that will change the

paradigm.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> So is it jupiter's sojourn through neecha rashi associated with rahu

backing off from Jupiter (sag) or mars in prolonged debility or this

jupiter-venus factor that has been attributed to be the great unveiller

.... or everything rolled together?

>

> Or is there some other factor that has not entered in the Akhaada of

Jyotish, yet?

>

> One thing that everyone in general must pay heed to is that jyotish

rules and considerations have enough flexibility in interpretation to

pretty much explain away anything with anything! Only by always

remaining aware of that possibility can we avoid the mayavini component

that is as inherent in Jyotish as it is in the " human experience " that

it is intended to describe and perhaps on occasion, explain as well...!

>

> Regards to all,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > You wd always have pool of confusions, how long i can do spoon

feeding.

> >

> > Ask your teachers, never in this century mars got in debility for

this long period alöng with jup's debilitation when ketu transits

cancer, this has impacted earth's internal status, information was given

to flag bearers of your parampara before occurences of earth quakes but

they being unaware couldnt understand as for decades they have been

doing a cozy job of post event analysis just win baseless fame, that

time is over now, new generation with vast study has come to astrology,

agents like you cant do any thing and your politics wont work.

> >

> > Improve your's as well as your school's level, be honest and stop

doing justification of one's life with false birth data.

> >

> > In his book on löngevity, Lt col Raj Kumar has justified some of

case with wrong data like case of shyama prasad mukherjee, sheikh

mujibur rahmaan etc, forget time of birth, even date of birth is wrong,

who is responsible for the money that readers are paying ?

> >

> > Take Care... Time for introspection has come for you people.

> >

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What are we here for. To listen to whims and fancies of some

perverted minds out to pursue their agenda. So far, the criticism has

been levelled at Narasimha Rao and Me (Both Paramparas), before perhaps

he moves on to individuals.

> > >

> > > Manoj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@>

> > >

> > > Wed, March 10, 2010 5:55:18 PM

> > > Re: Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity

& Parampara Activists

> > >

> > > Â

> > > " We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to

establish Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we

have today wâd be rare to repeat for a decade or so. Well, for the

remaining period f Marâs debilitation, least that we can says is

after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are to loose

itâs current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but there

will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water and air,

violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit changes. "

> > > Â

> > > Comments: Mars has been in the sign of Debilitation in Cancer for

some time now. In July, 2008 Mars had moved ahead of Saturn after

remaining in sign of debilitation.

> > > Â

> > > In June, 2006, again Mars was in Cancer, few degrees ahead of

Saturn, still earth quakes did not loos current intensity.

> > > Â

> > > What are we trying to prove here. There would be hundreds of

examples of similar disposition of planets.

> > > Â

> > > Manoj

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi@ >

> > >

> > > Tue, March 9, 2010 9:09:21 PM

> > > Study of Transit - Loss of Opportunity &

Parampara Activists

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > We in the domain of astrology have lost the opportunity to

establish

> > > Jyotish as a proven science, Kind of significant transit we have

today

> > > w'd be rare to repeat for a decade or so.

> > >

> > > Well, for the remaining period f Mar's debilitation, least that we

can

> > > says is after Mars crosses Saturn by 5-6 degrees, Earth quakes are

to

> > > loose it's current intensity and finally are to be stopped and but

> > > there will be accidents and disasters in more frequency in water

and

> > > air, violence and explosions will be continue.... till the transit

> > > changes.

> > >

> > > Let's watch it closely.

> > >

> > > Regarding SCANDALS AND EXPOSE of GURUS, I w'd like to correct the

point,

> > > It's not expose of Gurus but the expose of PAKHANDIS.

> > >

> > > In a transit in mundane astrology, once must have sharp intellect

for

> > > crisp judgement, there is clear constrast in the way Rahu and Jup

> > > functions.

> > >

> > > Rahu induces Pakhand and Jup eliminates it subject to Sun's status

and

> > > support given by Venus, another auspecious Guru.

> > >

> > > Pls look at Jup, it's advancing towards Pisces, Venus has already

> > > reached over Pisces and w'd be getting exaltation, thus the

> > > auspeciousness is doubly increased, what significant is Saturn's

> > > transits, Saturn is in Pisces Navamsa to extend it's support for

> > > elimination of PAKHAND, whether in religion or in astrology or in

social

> > > activities, How, You w'd confirm yourself, Pls note Jup is also on

> > > Pisces Navamsa, thus the script was well written that PAKHANDIS

will get

> > > beatings, note the names and faces.....

> > >

> > > Almost all the exposition happened by electronics media, Look at

> > > Saturn's placement and aspect on Mercurian signs denoting

communication

> > > and media.

> > >

> > > It's mere fun of astrology, if somebody says that Rahu is exposing

> > > Pakhand, No, It's not, never !!

> > >

> > > Problem happens when PARAMPARA become DARBARI and starts

generating

> > > chamachas instead of scholars, subjects growth stops and politics

> > > begins.

> > >

> > > What's being said about noted astrologers and renowned scholars,

You w'd

> > > get surprised when you come to know who is saying it -

> > >

> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

> > >

> > > Read on articals they are saying like following -

> > >

> > > * About R Santhanam -

> > >

> > > ///

> > >

> > > .... Late R.Santhanam, the astrologer for whom I had got a job in

a

> > > hotel through a friend and whom I had launched into astrological

> > > journalism by recommending his name to edit Your Astrologer a

monthly

> > > now defunct. After learning the tricks of trade there, Santhanam

picked

> > > up enough courage to launch the Times of Astrology. Santhanam

often

> > > discussed his own horoscope with me and the correct one is given

here.

> > > But Sanjay used it with Dhanu lagna and dashed off something.

> > >

> > > Santhanam whom politicians never trusted got some important

political

> > > horoscopes from me and, inspite of his promise not to use them,

used

> > > them in his monthly magazine.

> > >

> > > ////

> > >

> > > I two times visited R Santhanam's family at New Delhi, they are

living

> > > in dire financial conditions, Instead of supprting the family,

they are

> > > making fun of poor financial status forgetting It was R Santhanam

who

> > > translated scriptures like - Deva Keralam, Shambhu Hora Prakash,

> > > Jyotisharnav Navaneetam, Sarawali, Hora Ratnam and BPHS, which has

> > > contributed to entire community of vedic astrology, in fact there

is no

> > > end of jealous.

> > >

> > > * About Dr BV Raman -

> > >

> > > ///

> > >

> > > I could never excuse Dr.Raman and the Astrological Magazine for

such

> > > disinformation. Similarly, the Astrological Magazine carried for

more

> > > than five years the horoscope of Rajiv Gandhi with Kanya lagna and

both

> > > Dr. Raman and his daughter Gayatri discussed it lending it some

sort of

> > > authenticity. In 1991, the lagna was suddenly changed to Simha

without

> > > any explanation

> > >

> > > ///

> > >

> > > * About Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan -

> > >

> > > ///

> > >

> > > ... the Government of India celebrates the Teacher's Day on

> > > September 5 every year. India's astrological journals and books

contain

> > > the horoscope of Dr.Radhakrishnan explaining Saraswati Yoga. But

his own

> > > son has called his father an illegitimate child with an entirely

> > > different date and year of birth.

> > >

> > > ///

> > >

> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278

> > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=278>

> > > * http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279

> > > <http://www.journalo fastrology. com/article. php?article_ id=279>

> > >

> > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Pandiyan Mudaliyar,

> > > >

> > > > Let him first accept the debate here and answer what is his

motive

> > > behind spreading all those malicious things. Ascribing things

which are

> > > not even listed in that article, which clearly shows he is not

what he

> > > wants others to believe he is.

> > > >

> > > > Any elevated soul would not come to to announce

that God

> > > gave him darshan. It is plain simple misleading.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Manoj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > pandiyanmudaliyar pandiyanmudaliyar@ ...

> > > >

> > > > Sun, March 7, 2010 9:40:25 PM

> > > > Re: Jyaotish Parampara @ Schools

> > > >

> > > > Ã

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > Now the stage is set. It becomes quite interesting, from the

point of

> > > view of astrology.

> > > >

> > > > It would be nice if the date and venue is announced here in the

group

> > > so that those who really interested in astrology can witness the

debate.

> > > >

> > > > Pandiyan Mudaliyar

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoj,

> > > > >

> > > > > I admit your challange, go ahead arrange an open debate at

Bharti

> > > Vidya

> > > > > Bhawan -

> > > > >

> > > > > * You can call any body including founder Prof Rao and his

best

> > > > > students.

> > > > > * You can call any body including PV Narsimha and his friends.

> > > > > * You can call any body including Sanjay Rath and his team.

> > > > > * You can call any body including Prof V K Cahudhari and his

team.

> > > > > * You can call any body from ICAS and team.

> > > > > * Any body, any vedic astrologer of the world can be called.

> > > > > * There will be I at one end and at other end you can put all

> > > > > togather all of them.

> > > > >

> > > > > The subject of discussion w'd be Swami Vivekananda' s chart -

Dhanu

> > > > > Lagna vs Makar Lagna, in the name of parampara truth can not

be

> > > > > concealed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, if you want to understand true vedic jyotish, come out

of

> > > well, do

> > > > > a leap frog, feel free to join :

> > > > >

> > > > > www.groups.. com Vedic Astrologyan dhealing

> > > > > <http://www.groups. / group/vedicastro

logyandhealing>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Utkal.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. Utkal Panigrahi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you want me to give a list of people from Isckon who got

> > > cheated at

> > > > > the hands of a particular teacher of astrology of Delhi then,

now

> > > not in

> > > > > Delhi because the moment he lands in Delhi, the Cheating case

would

> > > > > catch up with him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are admitting your mistake here by design to defame a

reputed

> > > > > Journal of Astrology. Your karmas would surely catch up with

you. I

> > > am

> > > > > not sure, how are you going to react to this mail, but one

thing I

> > > surey

> > > > > know is that you, that you are going to come up with more

filth than

> > > you

> > > > > can hold on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I Challenge you today for an astrological debate on any

> > > subject/matter

> > > > > of your choice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Till date you have not exhibited your astrological ability

and you

> > > > > cannot do it but only mouth bad words for other seniors in the

> > > filed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Show us your genius by defining the meaning of 2nd lord in

the 9th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mouji

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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