Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 {A mistake in typing.Please read it for next transit of Rahu in Scorpio} Rahu when will transit " Scorpio " will deal with the devil persons Masked as warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of Inder Jit Sahni 11 March, 2010 9:50 AM hanskpvedic ; [hanskpvedic] Rahu has the masking Ability The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under trouble That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted successfully share market and about Gold etc. Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Inder_dada, TYPING is a dangerous activity, almost as dangerous as *stereotyping* -- the human folly which leads us to classify, categorize, put into convenient boxes human beings with such enormous potentials! But the MYTHS and stereotypes get destroyed when the CHI-squared nudges us differently! When the OBSERVED does not match the EXPECTED! When the STEREOTYPE does not hold up to the LIGHT! Astrology uses a lot of EXPECTEDs. Jupiter must do this, Libra must look and behave like this, malefics and benefics are stuck with their labels FOREVER! Perhaps, we all should at least start thinking of the OBSERVED, now that so many SECRETS have been revealed to all and sundry by so many. Kind regards, Rohiniranjan , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > {A mistake in typing.Please read it for next transit of Rahu in Scorpio} > > Rahu when will transit " Scorpio " will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On > Behalf Of Inder Jit Sahni > 11 March, 2010 9:50 AM > hanskpvedic ; > [hanskpvedic] Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Rohini, I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Inder_dada, Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering...! If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the STORY told to us ...? RR_, <%40> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. regards, Manoj ________________________________ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Rohini, I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni [] On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Inder_dada, Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the STORY told to us ...? RR_, <JyotishGrou p%40. com> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Inder_Dada, You wrote, " I look at this story differently " . Good to get confirmation that there is room for PERSONAL interpretation and the scriptural truth is no ABSOLUTE! Given that so many systems, paddhatis, approaches etc that exist not just for divination but specifically for the language that uses the alphabet of stars and planets -- each vehemently professed to be the SOLE realization and reality, little wonder that there is so much confusion but not FUSION! But, some are hopeful for the future of divination! Rohiniranjan , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni wrote: > > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering...! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <%40> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Manoj_jee, Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Â > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Ranjan, Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. regards, Manoj ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Manoj_jee, Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [JyotishGrou p] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Manoj_jee, Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear Ranjan, > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Manoj_jee, > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Dear Rohini, > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > RR_, > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > had > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > trouble > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > Mars > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > death > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > Retograde > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > Venus > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > the > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > as > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Destiny, because, Rahu/Swarbhanu, was already sitting in that line, when nectar was being distributed, is what is widely believed. Whether he was there by design/destiny if for Swarbhanu to answer but he had a suspicious nature and thought why are they being asked to sit separately, a dividing line being drawn, and hence he decided to check out the matters by taking it in its own hands (that is also visible in his nature even these days). It was almost like a " phirangi " trying to sneak into " deva sthanam " and being recognised after he had the satisfaction of having had the darshan. Now we can address it by any name, (design/destiny), but is it not a fact that Prabhu has a style of doing things, which are commonly known as his " leelas " . This is what I understand of it. regards, Manoj ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, March 11, 2010 11:16:47 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Manoj_jee, Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/ accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Dear Ranjan, > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Manoj_jee, > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Dear Rohini, > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > RR_, > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > had > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > trouble > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > Mars > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > death > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > Retograde > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > Venus > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > the > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > as > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Manoj_jee, That Swarbhanu received Amrita as was his due for having toiled in the MANTHAN is not what I was really wondering about! But: How did he get involved and was invited to participate in the great Manthan and once the GIFTS arrived, he was considered persona non grata! Kind of like the Indians who served the British-Indian Army and similar CAUSEs when the Brits ruled over India. Modern India (even astrologically) has since its most recent birth has been associated with Rahu, has it not? The moment when the FIRING_ees (Jalian Walah Bagh!) left but did they really? Rahu is indeed intriguing and so is ketu even though it often remains silent. I hope I am not wasting your precious time. Regards, Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Destiny, because, Rahu/Swarbhanu, was already sitting in that line, when nectar was being distributed, is what is widely believed. Whether he was there by design/destiny if for Swarbhanu to answer but he had a suspicious nature and thought why are they being asked to sit separately, a dividing line being drawn, and hence he decided to check out the matters by taking it in its own hands (that is also visible in his nature even these days). > > It was almost like a " phirangi " trying to sneak into " deva sthanam " and being recognised after he had the satisfaction of having had the darshan. Now we can address it by any name, (design/destiny), but is it not a fact that Prabhu has a style of doing things, which are commonly known as his " leelas " . This is what I understand of it. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, March 11, 2010 11:16:47 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Manoj_jee, > > Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/ accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? > > Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. > > Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Ranjan, > > > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > > > Ranjan > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > >  > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > > had > > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > > trouble > > > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > > Mars > > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > > death > > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > > Retograde > > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > > Venus > > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > > the > > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > > as > > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 ....Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized-externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: does he meet it in 'externalized', projected manner- and gets cheated?  And many shades in between  Haven't we all seen this?  Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. Any take?    --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM  Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. regards, Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Rohini, I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni [JyotishGrou p] On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Inder_dada, Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the STORY told to us ...? RR_, <JyotishGrou p%40. com> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. Any take?// I no nothing about komilla.....But i agree with the statement.I have seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other with5/9Houses/Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical aswell!!!.... -gopi. , sar108 <bona_mente wrote: > > > > > ...Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized-externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: > does he meet it in 'externalized', projected manner- and gets cheated? >  > And many shades in between >  > Haven't we all seen this? >  > Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take? >  >  >  > > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar mouji99 wrote: > > > Manoj Kumar mouji99 > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM > > >  > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Where materialism ends, spiritualism starts. Manoj ________________________________ sar108 <bona_mente Thu, March 11, 2010 12:00:51 PM Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  ....Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized- externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: does he meet it in 'externalized' , projected manner- and gets cheated?  And many shades in between  Haven't we all seen this?  Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. Any take?    --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM  Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. regards, Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Rohini, I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni [JyotishGrou p] On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Inder_dada, Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the STORY told to us ...? RR_, <JyotishGrou p%40. com> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. RR_, , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take?// > I no nothing about komilla.....But i agree with the statement.I have > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > with5/9Houses/Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > aswell!!!.... > -gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Rightly stated sir! And where that does not happen (transition zone), GOLMAAL hi GOLMAAL! You have tapped the essence of Swarbhanu. Parashara described it well...! Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Where materialism ends, spiritualism starts. > > Manoj > > > > ________________________________ > sar108 <bona_mente > > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:00:51 PM > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > > > ...Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized- externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: > does he meet it in 'externalized' , projected manner- and gets cheated? >  > And many shades in between >  > Haven't we all seen this? >  > Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take? >  >  >  > > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM > >  > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [JyotishGrou p] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Sirs, I fully agree on the opinions of Manoj ji and Kamilla Sutton of British A.V.A. on the comments made on power of Rahu. Regards.  A.V.Pathi.  ________________________________ Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Thu, March 11, 2010 12:29:45 PM Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Where materialism ends, spiritualism starts. Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ sar108 <bona_mente > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:00:51 PM Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  ....Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized- externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: does he meet it in 'externalized' , projected manner- and gets cheated?  And many shades in between  Haven't we all seen this?  Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. Any take?    --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM  Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. regards, Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Rohini, I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni [JyotishGrou p] On Behalf Of rohinicrystal 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Inder_dada, Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the STORY told to us ...? RR_, <JyotishGrou p%40. com> , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed had > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > trouble > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat Mars > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing death > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in Retograde > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the Venus > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from the > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked as > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Komilla , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Sirs, > > I fully agree on the opinions of Manoj ji and Kamilla Sutton of British A.V.A. on the comments made on power of Rahu. > > Regards. >  > A.V.Pathi. >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:29:45 PM > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Where materialism ends, spiritualism starts. > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > sar108 <bona_mente > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:00:51 PM > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > > ...Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized- externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: > does he meet it in 'externalized' , projected manner- and gets cheated? >  > And many shades in between >  > Haven't we all seen this? >  > Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take? >  >  >  > > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM > >  > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [JyotishGrou p] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. RR_, , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote: > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take?// > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > aswell!!!... . > -gopi. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Just to keep the TIME-SEQUENCE relevant, this message was posted just around 26285! Such is the nature of ARPANET (original structure still remains unchanged from what I hear!), that this must have gone around the world a few times --OR perhaps went retrograde just like mars! RR_, , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > That Swarbhanu received Amrita as was his due for having toiled in the MANTHAN is not what I was really wondering about! > > But: How did he get involved and was invited to participate in the great Manthan and once the GIFTS arrived, he was considered persona non grata! > > Kind of like the Indians who served the British-Indian Army and similar CAUSEs when the Brits ruled over India. > > Modern India (even astrologically) has since its most recent birth has been associated with Rahu, has it not? The moment when the FIRING_ees (Jalian Walah Bagh!) left but did they really? > > Rahu is indeed intriguing and so is ketu even though it often remains silent. > > I hope I am not wasting your precious time. > > Regards, > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > Destiny, because, Rahu/Swarbhanu, was already sitting in that line, when nectar was being distributed, is what is widely believed. Whether he was there by design/destiny if for Swarbhanu to answer but he had a suspicious nature and thought why are they being asked to sit separately, a dividing line being drawn, and hence he decided to check out the matters by taking it in its own hands (that is also visible in his nature even these days). > > > > It was almost like a " phirangi " trying to sneak into " deva sthanam " and being recognised after he had the satisfaction of having had the darshan. Now we can address it by any name, (design/destiny), but is it not a fact that Prabhu has a style of doing things, which are commonly known as his " leelas " . This is what I understand of it. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 11:16:47 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Manoj_jee, > > > > Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/ accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? > > > > Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. > > > > Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) > > > > Ranjan > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ranjan, > > > > > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > > > > > Ranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > > > had > > > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > > > trouble > > > > > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > > > Mars > > > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > > > death > > > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > > > Retograde > > > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > > > Venus > > > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > > > the > > > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > > > as > > > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Power of judgement comes through Jup, incomplete knowledge and inapropiate study distracts towards trappings of rahu. Before glorifying rahu, think of the fact even amrit couldnt safeguard swarbhanu from cutting into parts by sudarshan chakra used by lord Vishnu. Rahu stolen amrit but couldn't enjoy it, why ? If you can understand time is chakra, and saturn has a role in wheel of time, you can understand exposition done by jup - venus combo, saturn in jup's navamsa ( pisces) of virgo. Jup is already in pisces navamsa of saturn's aquarious navamasa and cönjunct to sun, it was sun who wanted expose of rahu and an action by vishnu. That sun is conjunct to jup and to make it perfect venus is on pisces. More spoonfeeding is avoided, they who get rahu in pisces should remain alert if engaged in any thing like rahu, rahu is mada also. Pakhand will always be exposed by jup-venus. ................... , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Sirs, > > I fully agree on the opinions of Manoj ji and Kamilla Sutton of British A.V.A. on the comments made on power of Rahu. > > Regards. >  > A.V.Pathi. >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:29:45 PM > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Where materialism ends, spiritualism starts. > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > sar108 <bona_mente > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 12:00:51 PM > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > > ...Sometimes this looks as a common phenomenon of internalized- externalized 'energies' to me. One who says 'Greed is good' will most likely embrace Rahu and learn and enjoy its 'craft'  On the other end is one who /due to numerous reasons/ does not accept Rahu's energies and appeal: > does he meet it in 'externalized' , projected manner- and gets cheated? >  > And many shades in between >  > Haven't we all seen this? >  > Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > Any take? >  >  >  > > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:11 AM > >  > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > regards, > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Rohini, > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > [JyotishGrou p] On > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Inder_dada, > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > STORY told to us ...? > > RR_, > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > had > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > trouble > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > Mars > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > death > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > Retograde > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > Venus > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > the > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > as > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Ranjan, That is Rahu. Going through the entire world before reaching where it is supposed too.....ARPANET regards, Manoj ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, March 11, 2010 11:52:52 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Manoj_jee, That Swarbhanu received Amrita as was his due for having toiled in the MANTHAN is not what I was really wondering about! But: How did he get involved and was invited to participate in the great Manthan and once the GIFTS arrived, he was considered persona non grata! Kind of like the Indians who served the British-Indian Army and similar CAUSEs when the Brits ruled over India. Modern India (even astrologically) has since its most recent birth has been associated with Rahu, has it not? The moment when the FIRING_ees (Jalian Walah Bagh!) left but did they really? Rahu is indeed intriguing and so is ketu even though it often remains silent. I hope I am not wasting your precious time. Regards, Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: > > Destiny, because, Rahu/Swarbhanu, was already sitting in that line, when nectar was being distributed, is what is widely believed. Whether he was there by design/destiny if for Swarbhanu to answer but he had a suspicious nature and thought why are they being asked to sit separately, a dividing line being drawn, and hence he decided to check out the matters by taking it in its own hands (that is also visible in his nature even these days). > > It was almost like a " phirangi " trying to sneak into " deva sthanam " and being recognised after he had the satisfaction of having had the darshan. Now we can address it by any name, (design/destiny) , but is it not a fact that Prabhu has a style of doing things, which are commonly known as his " leelas " . This is what I understand of it. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Thu, March 11, 2010 11:16:47 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Manoj_jee, > > Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/ accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? > > Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. > > Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Ranjan, > > > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > > > Ranjan > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > >  > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > > had > > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > > trouble > > > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > > Mars > > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > > death > > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > > Retograde > > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > > Venus > > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > > the > > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > > as > > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Manoj_jee, Our lunar nodes were created by the intersection of Earth(sun) and Moon)! But really, they were created by motion and not during stagnation! Movement represents life and creates astrology! Astrology when applied to the dead is boring and generally not of much utility. Being without a body/pinda -- the nodes leave some room for filling in the gaps, as we all have seen for several years or longer! But if some would rather prefer emptiness (shunyataa?) who am I to question their personal choice? Ranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear Ranjan, > > That is Rahu. Going through the entire world before reaching where it is supposed too.....ARPANET > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, March 11, 2010 11:52:52 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > >  > Dear Manoj_jee, > > That Swarbhanu received Amrita as was his due for having toiled in the MANTHAN is not what I was really wondering about! > > But: How did he get involved and was invited to participate in the great Manthan and once the GIFTS arrived, he was considered persona non grata! > > Kind of like the Indians who served the British-Indian Army and similar CAUSEs when the Brits ruled over India. > > Modern India (even astrologically) has since its most recent birth has been associated with Rahu, has it not? The moment when the FIRING_ees (Jalian Walah Bagh!) left but did they really? > > Rahu is indeed intriguing and so is ketu even though it often remains silent. > > I hope I am not wasting your precious time. > > Regards, > > Ranjan > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Destiny, because, Rahu/Swarbhanu, was already sitting in that line, when nectar was being distributed, is what is widely believed. Whether he was there by design/destiny if for Swarbhanu to answer but he had a suspicious nature and thought why are they being asked to sit separately, a dividing line being drawn, and hence he decided to check out the matters by taking it in its own hands (that is also visible in his nature even these days). > > > > It was almost like a " phirangi " trying to sneak into " deva sthanam " and being recognised after he had the satisfaction of having had the darshan. Now we can address it by any name, (design/destiny) , but is it not a fact that Prabhu has a style of doing things, which are commonly known as his " leelas " . This is what I understand of it. > > > > regards, > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 11:16:47 AM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > >  > > Manoj_jee, > > > > Perhaps neither was I, just as you were not! Not in our whole entire awareness but then why do you think/assume/ accept that destiny was the sole plausible explanation? > > > > Explanation involves reasoning and UHAPOHA as I believe the process is called. > > > > Belief/Faith, on the other hand is simply UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE that arises out of SILENCE and not arguments :-) > > > > Ranjan > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ranjan, > > > > > > Since I was not present in the present form in that congregation, difficult to say, but destiny seems to be the most plausible explanation. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:51:43 AM > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > Was it free-will (enterprise) or destiny, though, on Swarbhanu's part that made amrita available to him? > > > > > > Ranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes. Rahu is the planet which did taste Amrita. That has to have its own sweet meaning. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> > > > > > > > > Thu, March 11, 2010 10:24:25 AM > > > > RE: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > > > I look at this story differently, the Gods and Demons live with in us and to > > > > succeed we need to balance between the both, using only Gods way you will > > > > not come up with any thing, to obtain the Gems this World Sea using devil > > > > powers we are to work through the mouth of Snake that is with Risk and of > > > > poising or burning. Are not you looking at this in the list.? > > > > > > > > I feel that the story is only an indication of human behave and only the > > > > Rahu touch make everything devil or there is nothing devil except him and he > > > > had his share but is impossible to fight with having tasted the Amrita. > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > [JyotishGrou p@ . com] On > > > > Behalf Of rohinicrystal > > > > 11 March, 2010 9:59 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > > > Inder_dada, > > > > > > > > Did Swarbhanu (prior to the HOLY dissection) the clever Demon -- really > > > > sneaked into a banquet where he did not belong or was he just an example of > > > > PARTICIPANTS asking for their rights and what was due? > > > > > > > > Does Rahu represent socialism or communism, even? Just wondering... ! > > > > > > > > If the Demons did not participate in the Samudra_Manthan as allegories tell > > > > us, HOW would have been that scripture written and what would have been the > > > > STORY told to us ...? > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > <JyotishGrou p%40. com> > > > > , " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The recent cases when people branding themselves as Gods were unearthed > > > > had > > > > > raised the issue in a list if Jupiter and Venus had to do with this. > > > > > > > > > > We had been reading since long that Rahu has the masking ability; for any > > > > > element to have trouble the significator of that element should be under > > > > > trouble > > > > > > > > > > That is for Finance Jupiter and for trading Mercury, for fire and heat > > > > Mars > > > > > and Sun and for Air and Cold Saturn, > > > > > > > > > > This year Cold was predicted by me on these basis and I predicted > > > > > successfully share market and about Gold etc. > > > > > > > > > > Mars I used for heat and Jupiter in 8th from it I used as Sky causing > > > > death > > > > > to heat , but only one factor will not work , the Jupiter move in > > > > Retograde > > > > > Mars star was more furious when the Mars was moving in the star of Saturn > > > > > retrograde in 8th from Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Now look at Rahu , in Jupiter sign Masking as Jupiter but enjoying the > > > > Venus > > > > > being I the star of Venus and politics being in Sun star before, Jupiter > > > > > noticed its Masking while transiting its star and Mars punished it from > > > > the > > > > > 8th to it and Saturn from the 10th; Venus now exalted is a relief to its > > > > > position ; Rahu when will transit will deal with the devil persons Masked > > > > as > > > > > warrior or Corrupt Masked as Engineers or Administrators and with > > > > > appropriate times shall be booked by the Law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Rohini ji, the original message is not mine to clean up/repost!!!.... thanks for the info on komilla.....i know komilla virk.yes. Regards, gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > Any take?// > > I no nothing about komilla.....But i agree with the statement.I have > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > with5/9Houses/Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > aswell!!!.... > > -gopi. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Gopi ji, Your effort at Prashana showed that you have quest for knowledge. Best wishes, Manoj ________________________________ gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:54 PM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Dear Rohini ji, the original message is not mine to clean up/repost!!! .... thanks for the info on komilla..... i know komilla virk.yes. Regards, gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > Any take?// > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > aswell!!!... . > > -gopi. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Rahu can pose more spiritual than the real spiritual ones, it can pose more honest than the honest ones; 1st one shall understand that what is Devil and whatis God, the Devil also drink and God's also drink ; But the quantity makes the difference, one will take it for health issues other will take it for addiction. The God can be non veg and Devils may also eat the Non-veg but the reason's will have the difference , God's may take it for final survival but Devils will take it for the taste of tongue. Devils and God's both sex but one will respect the willingness of other party other may rape , there are instances when God's also Masked themselves for this purpose. So when the greed is increased and there are unlimited desires that is Devils ; So this is Rahu causing affliction to every planet create Devils in that. A planet in any sign moving towards Rahu will show the nature of that planet going towards show/masking and darkness; But a planet in retrograde motion in less degrees shows a person who is fighting and is in struggle to this darkness and Masking. A planet who had passed the Rahu degrees had faced the masking and damage had been done.How it will react now will depend upon the available combinations from the next house as well as from the 7th and 5th house to the planet position. To any planet 2nd sign is its collection 4rth is its pleasure 11th are its gains 7th is the wife like cooperation or opposition 5th and 9th are its resource and knowledge . And 12th and 2nd house also stands for resource or knowledge or desires. These are other words for Rajoguna , Tamoguna and Satoguna. This is how every planet is affected by its adjoining houses and the planets in 7th to them. This is how Jamini taught sign aspects the Movable depends on Fix and Fix on movables but Dual on Dual. That is desires depends on sources and knowledge interfere with knowledge. In the same house much damage in the next sign it will depend as per above Gunas indications. In the 5th and 9th too the Rahu will affect or will Mask to the 5th and 9th from it. So it is not easy to interpret a planet in one go. A person showing afflicted may take birth in a family that is all devils habits. A person having planet towards Rahu may take birth in a Satwik family but he himself will turn devil. The chances are that he will have that planet as sub lord or the planet showing that planet as sub lord of the Ascendant. A person having planet retrograde in less degrees from Rahu degrees shows the struggle the person will do with his family devils or otherwise other types of mode. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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