Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 thanx4the compliment.But i expect people to provide the question when they post!!?.....for prasna. Regards, gopi. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Gopi ji, > > Your effort at Prashana showed that you have quest for knowledge. > > Best wishes, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > > Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:54 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Â > Dear Rohini ji, > the original message is not mine to clean up/repost!!! .... > thanks for the info on komilla..... i know komilla virk.yes. > Regards, > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> > wrote: > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. > The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear > friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one > time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written > books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had > an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called > Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after > passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!... . > > > -gopi. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Here I differ with you Inderjit ji. Rahu is a demon, agreed, but then why has he been praised by Parashara in certain houses and why in Jaimini then, there is a shloka which goes like " ath ketu subha " . Kindly explain regards, Manoj ________________________________ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni ; hanskpvedic Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:14 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Rahu can pose more spiritual than the real spiritual ones, it can pose more honest than the honest ones; 1st one shall understand that what is Devil and whatis God, the Devil also drink and God's also drink ; But the quantity makes the difference, one will take it for health issues other will take it for addiction. The God can be non veg and Devils may also eat the Non-veg but the reason's will have the difference , God's may take it for final survival but Devils will take it for the taste of tongue. Devils and God's both sex but one will respect the willingness of other party other may rape , there are instances when God's also Masked themselves for this purpose. So when the greed is increased and there are unlimited desires that is Devils ; So this is Rahu causing affliction to every planet create Devils in that. A planet in any sign moving towards Rahu will show the nature of that planet going towards show/masking and darkness; But a planet in retrograde motion in less degrees shows a person who is fighting and is in struggle to this darkness and Masking. A planet who had passed the Rahu degrees had faced the masking and damage had been done.How it will react now will depend upon the available combinations from the next house as well as from the 7th and 5th house to the planet position. To any planet 2nd sign is its collection 4rth is its pleasure 11th are its gains 7th is the wife like cooperation or opposition 5th and 9th are its resource and knowledge . And 12th and 2nd house also stands for resource or knowledge or desires. These are other words for Rajoguna , Tamoguna and Satoguna. This is how every planet is affected by its adjoining houses and the planets in 7th to them. This is how Jamini taught sign aspects the Movable depends on Fix and Fix on movables but Dual on Dual. That is desires depends on sources and knowledge interfere with knowledge. In the same house much damage in the next sign it will depend as per above Gunas indications. In the 5th and 9th too the Rahu will affect or will Mask to the 5th and 9th from it. So it is not easy to interpret a planet in one go. A person showing afflicted may take birth in a family that is all devils habits. A person having planet towards Rahu may take birth in a Satwik family but he himself will turn devil. The chances are that he will have that planet as sub lord or the planet showing that planet as sub lord of the Ascendant. A person having planet retrograde in less degrees from Rahu degrees shows the struggle the person will do with his family devils or otherwise other types of mode. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Then there is the thinking and recommendation too, Manoj-jee, that the lunar nodes represent the planet they are associated with or the planets that are their hosts (dispositors). Surely, it is not as black and white as some have and may still be insisting in the Mayavini Akhada of Jyotish ;-) Rohiniranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Here I differ with you Inderjit ji. Rahu is a demon, agreed, but then why has he been praised by Parashara in certain houses and why in Jaimini then, there is a shloka which goes like " ath ketu subha " . > > Kindly explain > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni > ; hanskpvedic > Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:14 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > Â > Rahu can pose more spiritual than the real spiritual ones, it can pose more > honest than the honest ones; 1st one shall understand that what is Devil and > whatis God, the Devil also drink and God's also drink ; > > But the quantity makes the difference, one will take it for health issues > other will take it for addiction. > > The God can be non veg and Devils may also eat the Non-veg but the reason's > will have the difference , God's may take it for final survival but Devils > will take it for the taste of tongue. > > Devils and God's both sex but one will respect the willingness of other > party other may rape , there are instances when God's also Masked themselves > for this purpose. > > So when the greed is increased and there are unlimited desires that is > Devils ; > > So this is Rahu causing affliction to every planet create Devils in that. > > A planet in any sign moving towards Rahu will show the nature of that > planet going towards show/masking and darkness; > > But a planet in retrograde motion in less degrees shows a person who is > fighting and is in struggle to this darkness and Masking. > > A planet who had passed the Rahu degrees had faced the masking and damage > had been done.How it will react now will depend upon the available > combinations from the next house as well as from the 7th and 5th house to > the planet position. > > To any planet 2nd sign is its collection 4rth is its pleasure 11th are its > gains 7th is the wife like cooperation or opposition 5th and 9th are its > resource and knowledge . > > And 12th and 2nd house also stands for resource or knowledge or desires. > > These are other words for Rajoguna , Tamoguna and Satoguna. > > This is how every planet is affected by its adjoining houses and the planets > in 7th to them. > > This is how Jamini taught sign aspects the Movable depends on Fix and Fix on > movables but Dual on Dual. > > That is desires depends on sources and knowledge interfere with knowledge. > > In the same house much damage in the next sign it will depend as per above > Gunas indications. > > In the 5th and 9th too the Rahu will affect or will Mask to the 5th and 9th > from it. > > So it is not easy to interpret a planet in one go. > > A person showing afflicted may take birth in a family that is all devils > habits. > > A person having planet towards Rahu may take birth in a Satwik family but he > himself will turn devil. The chances are that he will have that planet as > sub lord or the planet showing that planet as sub lord of the Ascendant. > > A person having planet retrograde in less degrees from Rahu degrees shows > the struggle the person will do with his family devils or otherwise other > types of mode. > > With Best Wishes, > > Inder Jit Sahni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Manoj, Please go through my mails I did not rejected Rahu; Ketu is shubham because it put the elements in their original form; without guna’s . Ketu cause sanyasa, Rahu do not cause this. At least nothing could be rejected; Rahu is the cause of our birth , why Rahu is good in some houses and in which contest it had been said had to be seen. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni On Behalf Of Manoj Kumar 11 March, 2010 9:06 PM Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Here I differ with you Inderjit ji. Rahu is a demon, agreed, but then why has he been praised by Parashara in certain houses and why in Jaimini then, there is a shloka which goes like " ath ketu subha " . Kindly explain regards, Manoj ________________________________ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni <inder_jit_sahni%40.co.in> > <%40> ; hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic%40> Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:14 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Rahu can pose more spiritual than the real spiritual ones, it can pose more honest than the honest ones; 1st one shall understand that what is Devil and whatis God, the Devil also drink and God's also drink ; But the quantity makes the difference, one will take it for health issues other will take it for addiction. The God can be non veg and Devils may also eat the Non-veg but the reason's will have the difference , God's may take it for final survival but Devils will take it for the taste of tongue. Devils and God's both sex but one will respect the willingness of other party other may rape , there are instances when God's also Masked themselves for this purpose. So when the greed is increased and there are unlimited desires that is Devils ; So this is Rahu causing affliction to every planet create Devils in that. A planet in any sign moving towards Rahu will show the nature of that planet going towards show/masking and darkness; But a planet in retrograde motion in less degrees shows a person who is fighting and is in struggle to this darkness and Masking. A planet who had passed the Rahu degrees had faced the masking and damage had been done.How it will react now will depend upon the available combinations from the next house as well as from the 7th and 5th house to the planet position. To any planet 2nd sign is its collection 4rth is its pleasure 11th are its gains 7th is the wife like cooperation or opposition 5th and 9th are its resource and knowledge . And 12th and 2nd house also stands for resource or knowledge or desires. These are other words for Rajoguna , Tamoguna and Satoguna. This is how every planet is affected by its adjoining houses and the planets in 7th to them. This is how Jamini taught sign aspects the Movable depends on Fix and Fix on movables but Dual on Dual. That is desires depends on sources and knowledge interfere with knowledge. In the same house much damage in the next sign it will depend as per above Gunas indications. In the 5th and 9th too the Rahu will affect or will Mask to the 5th and 9th from it. So it is not easy to interpret a planet in one go. A person showing afflicted may take birth in a family that is all devils habits. A person having planet towards Rahu may take birth in a Satwik family but he himself will turn devil. The chances are that he will have that planet as sub lord or the planet showing that planet as sub lord of the Ascendant. A person having planet retrograde in less degrees from Rahu degrees shows the struggle the person will do with his family devils or otherwise other types of mode. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Manoj, Would you tell us more, pls. In which houses/signs Parasara praised Rahu? And translate J. sloka below? Thanks. It does make sense to me that Rahu can give a positive impetus- challenge, temptations to be overcome, thus making one more devotional to God in heart- through constant struggle with darker side, blessed ones eventually come to terms with it and free an enormous amount of energy, to be used for good, without friction...Anna --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Re: Re: Rahu has the masking Ability Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:36 AM  Here I differ with you Inderjit ji. Rahu is a demon, agreed, but then why has he been praised by Parashara in certain houses and why in Jaimini then, there is a shloka which goes like " ath ketu subha " . Kindly explain regards, Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> ; hanskpvedic Thu, March 11, 2010 5:17:14 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability  Rahu can pose more spiritual than the real spiritual ones, it can pose more honest than the honest ones; 1st one shall understand that what is Devil and whatis God, the Devil also drink and God's also drink ; But the quantity makes the difference, one will take it for health issues other will take it for addiction. The God can be non veg and Devils may also eat the Non-veg but the reason's will have the difference , God's may take it for final survival but Devils will take it for the taste of tongue. Devils and God's both sex but one will respect the willingness of other party other may rape , there are instances when God's also Masked themselves for this purpose. So when the greed is increased and there are unlimited desires that is Devils ; So this is Rahu causing affliction to every planet create Devils in that. A planet in any sign moving towards Rahu will show the nature of that planet going towards show/masking and darkness; But a planet in retrograde motion in less degrees shows a person who is fighting and is in struggle to this darkness and Masking. A planet who had passed the Rahu degrees had faced the masking and damage had been done.How it will react now will depend upon the available combinations from the next house as well as from the 7th and 5th house to the planet position. To any planet 2nd sign is its collection 4rth is its pleasure 11th are its gains 7th is the wife like cooperation or opposition 5th and 9th are its resource and knowledge . And 12th and 2nd house also stands for resource or knowledge or desires. These are other words for Rajoguna , Tamoguna and Satoguna. This is how every planet is affected by its adjoining houses and the planets in 7th to them. This is how Jamini taught sign aspects the Movable depends on Fix and Fix on movables but Dual on Dual. That is desires depends on sources and knowledge interfere with knowledge. In the same house much damage in the next sign it will depend as per above Gunas indications. In the 5th and 9th too the Rahu will affect or will Mask to the 5th and 9th from it. So it is not easy to interpret a planet in one go. A person showing afflicted may take birth in a family that is all devils habits. A person having planet towards Rahu may take birth in a Satwik family but he himself will turn devil. The chances are that he will have that planet as sub lord or the planet showing that planet as sub lord of the Ascendant. A person having planet retrograde in less degrees from Rahu degrees shows the struggle the person will do with his family devils or otherwise other types of mode. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I have noticed that some of the messages that are picked up from the website contain higher ascii characters which appear like non-alphanumeric characters and make reading a message very difficult. When you responded, either your mail program or as I thought you, filtered out those 'interfering-radicals', hence I was thanking you (and your mail program):-) Interesting career change. Although I have been told that the people in film industry tend to rely a lot of astrological advice, but of course they do not post requests in Jyotish fora ;-) RR , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > the original message is not mine to clean up/repost!!!.... > thanks for the info on komilla.....i know komilla virk.yes. > Regards, > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. > The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear > friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one > time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written > books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had > an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called > Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after > passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla.....But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!.... > > > -gopi. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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