Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly...!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! RR_, , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > RR_, > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ..> wrote: > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > Any take?// > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > aswell!!!... . > > -gopi. > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. Regards, Krishna ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ..!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! RR_, , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > RR_, > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ..> wrote: > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > Any take?// > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > aswell!!!... . > > -gopi. > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 yes Krishna ji, quite possible..... Regards, gopi. , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ..!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) > > But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! > > Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! > > Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! > > They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! > > RR_, > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!... . > > > -gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thanks Gopi ji for supporting my thoughts. ________________________________ gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Thu, 11 March, 2010 8:31:29 PM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) yes Krishna ji, quite possible.... . Regards, gopi. , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ... > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ..!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) > > But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! > > Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! > > Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! > > They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! > > RR_, > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!... . > > > -gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Although people tend to think in terms of 'pure' effects (Jupiter is this, saturn is that, moon does that ...) and tend to use terms such as effect of jupiter in H1 or H10 (in D-whatever...) but we all know that there is a lot of mixing that takes place. Nodes, on the other hand have been described as having the added ability to serve as 'surrogates'. They assume the persona of the planets they are associated with (occupancy of vargas or asterisms or dispositors), much more than other planets have been observed or assumed to be. One would wish to be careful when characterizing lunar nodes as " this or that " , 'black or white'. The " smoky shadows " as they are called. RR_, , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ...!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) > > But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! > > Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! > > Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! > > They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! > > RR_, > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!... . > > > -gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Going by the end results no graha is 100% good or 100% bad. We are sure to fail as astrologer if we adopt black & white approach. It is all shades of gray. 'Pure' effects should be combined with effects of ownership, placement, motion, disposition, temporary relationships, navamsha strength, shadbala etc. etc., and at the end the 'pure' effects don't remain pure anymore. They are just the starting point only! Regards, Krishna ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, 12 March, 2010 5:19:51 AM Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) Although people tend to think in terms of 'pure' effects (Jupiter is this, saturn is that, moon does that ...) and tend to use terms such as effect of jupiter in H1 or H10 (in D-whatever.. .) but we all know that there is a lot of mixing that takes place. Nodes, on the other hand have been described as having the added ability to serve as 'surrogates' . They assume the persona of the planets they are associated with (occupancy of vargas or asterisms or dispositors) , much more than other planets have been observed or assumed to be. One would wish to be careful when characterizing lunar nodes as " this or that " , 'black or white'. The " smoky shadows " as they are called. RR_, , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ...!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) > > But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! > > Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! > > Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! > > They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! > > RR_, > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > Any take?// > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > aswell!!!... . > > > -gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 But of course! I am glad you agree! I really enjoyed your novel concept about lunar nodes and them representing/influencing the ELEMENT they chose to be born in, along with the nativity and the natal epoch! You do have something there...! Rohiniranjan , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Going by the end results no graha is 100% good or 100% bad. We are sure to fail as astrologer if we adopt black & white approach. It is all shades of gray. 'Pure' effects should be combined with effects of ownership, placement, motion, disposition, temporary relationships, navamsha strength, shadbala etc. etc., and at the end the 'pure' effects don't remain pure anymore. They are just the starting point only! > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, 12 March, 2010 5:19:51 AM > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > Although people tend to think in terms of 'pure' effects (Jupiter is this, saturn is that, moon does that ...) and tend to use terms such as effect of jupiter in H1 or H10 (in D-whatever.. .) but we all know that there is a lot of mixing that takes place. Nodes, on the other hand have been described as having the added ability to serve as 'surrogates' . They assume the persona of the planets they are associated with (occupancy of vargas or asterisms or dispositors) , much more than other planets have been observed or assumed to be. > > One would wish to be careful when characterizing lunar nodes as " this or that " , 'black or white'. The " smoky shadows " as they are called. > > RR_, > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ....> wrote: > > > > >>Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > > > > Quite possible. I feel that Rahu plays a significant role in people who can't conform to the laws of the land/society or those who cross the boundaries of the known and invent something new or who goes ahead and questions the establishment or Guru and gets termed as bad guys. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 1:21:38 PM > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability (Recycling too!) > > > > > > Or perhaps it pulls out from the past what used to be the norm into here and now where it is not the norm? > > > > For instance, in the generation of our parents (baby boomers, particularly. ...!) a difference of 10-20 years between husband and wife used to be not all that unusual (and may not show up in charts from those times ;-) > > > > But TODAY, as you have shown -- association with rahu may involve marriages where spouses have similar age-difference as what used to be the NORM! > > > > Back in early-mid '70s just after graduation, I had a chance to be a barati in a friend's marriage in Nagpur. Rather eye-opening event for some of us! After that we visited Shirdi, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora (not for prayashchit for having participated in the wedding but just because we were dirt-poor students and all those sites were close by! > > > > Ajanta was an eye-opener! I saw, among other things, coiffures and garment-designs in the frescos -- that were very popular currently, back then in the 70s! > > > > They say that Change is Constant but really -- RECYCLING is what is constant! In human thinking, and of all things, in ASTROLOGY! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rahu also tries to go beyond the accepted norms. This both good and bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, 11 March, 2010 12:32:11 PM > > > Re: Rahu has the masking Ability > > > > > > > > > Thank you for 'cleaning' up the message and reposting it, Gopi_jee. The original message had all those HIGHER ASCII characters that a dear friend calls " Andaas " , but that is neither here nor there! > > > > > > Komilla Sutton is a very influential vedic astrologer in UK who at one time was the president of the jyotish society in England and has written books and is an acclaimed Jyotish teacher. > > > > > > Before she came to England and became a full-time Jyotishini she had an illustrious career in Bollywood (before it began to be called Bollywood). Some of you baby boomers may know her as Komilla Virk. > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > //Komilla Sutton opines that Rahu can get even spiritual, after passing > > > > materialistic phase and disappointment in its value. > > > > Haven't heard anything like that from anybody else. > > > > Any take?// > > > > I no nothing about komilla..... But i agree with the statement.I have > > > > seen in a few charts where Rahu is conected someway or other > > > > with5/9Houses/ Lords and also jup people are Spiritual and practical > > > > aswell!!!... . > > > > -gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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