I said I am the the universe- Buddha, Shiva, Nother Mary etc

[Guest guest]

" very interesting. What is ketus nature. Illustrate with concrete

examples.Take my horoscope for example. Ra is in dhanu 'n ju has just

crossed ke- mokha/ knowledge karaka, ke. During ra dasa at birth, till 17

yrs., I read a lot of Buddhist literature and aspired for moksha.

Wud u say I was deluded by my mask. I think, life, subsequent to that during

sa dasa - a time of suffering cud have been a time of delusion. But that is

also not true as i felt one with the universe- I said I am the universe-

Buddha, Shiva, Nother Mary etc . "

 

This is easily said as to realize , Shankra said I am Brahm, Lord Budha

said you are your own God In Jainism it is said there is nothing in the end

only a zero remains. In fact every one had said the same thing but in

different way. The great Scholars had translated it differently according

to their academic knowledge, which is very different from the spiritual one.

Both the academic and spiritual knowledge had differences, one who had

attained Spiritual knowledge may tell that who is the good MBBS doctor but

will not become a Doctor himself, most of the Spiritual inclined persons had

tried to work for social reforms they may have done other works too. To my

limited knowledge when Shankra said that I am Brahm then he is pointing

towards the highest substance which is cause of us and the universe. He

reached to his state without three gunas , his original form, he did not

says that he is Lord Shiva or Lord Budha or Lord Vishnu ,but he said that

all those too are of the same and one substance. When lord Budhas says that

you are your own God that means you are responsible for your deeds, you are

the cause of your rise and fall. You can attain your Brahm position without

being anything else but to be a creator you will have to work hard like him

to be in senseless state for millions of years . To be in Brahm position

one should be without any guna that too is achieved within this body and not

after leaving this body. Jainism too had said that when you crosses the

boundry of your internal body you reach zero that is also talking about the

state of Brahm without three gunas. This higher knowledge is never for

discussion , writing more than this will be disobedience of the Spiritual

masters or I may not be so deserving person to write about this.

 

 

 

Birth Data 5th May 1955,21.37 , Delhi

 

You are born under the influence of Rahu and Rahu is in Ketu star; you looks

like a soul who was inspired for Moksha but fell in wrong hands and in

overconfidence and with wrong type of teachers or remained much attached and

thought that you are liberated , Rahu's in Jupiter Sign and in Ketu star

and Jupiter crossed over from Ketu shows this as had been assumed by you. I

am using Nakashtra here because we had already learned that star relation

is more announced than the Sign. But it shows very great inspiration in you

to be liberated to know about the hidden , as Ketu is in airy sign you are

touched by the spiritual things, blessings ,or temples persons etc, as it is

8th house one have too much faith in Tantra, Mantra and miracles One must

remember that 8th is expenditure to 9th house, expenditure is good and bad,

good becomes your investment and bad becomes your energies to pay the

previous karmic debts. In rashi chart it will give for the significance of

the planet concerned and in the Bhava chart as we use for Placidus or

topocentric it will work strictly for the House concerned. I am talking here

about the Rashi chart.

 

 

 

But let me reply what you had asked; Ketu is star of liberation means it cut

you from the bonds of Three Gunas; that means you cut from the connections

of the elements, in transit it liberate or give pain to the person on which

ever natal position of the planet it moves; Even knowledge is satoguna move

towards liberation but is not liberation.

 

 

 

Jupiter Moon and Sun are main planets for Satoguna . Rahu Ketu Mars Saturn

are Tamoguni , means are resources, Ketu in the extreme cases is Resources

without any Guna , that is why it is Moksha karka. Mercury and Venus are

Rajoguni, Lord Krishna says in Gita that human births are under the

influence of Rajoguna and this is cause of all the sins. Aspiring for fame/

knowledge/property/sensual pleasure etc all are due to Rajo guna where

knowledge can cut the bonds . Rahu is Tamsik , cause of pride ego,

presentation a wish to remain in light for glory or for any thing . It is

shadow which gives the illusion of to which it shade.Rahu is brand the

influence cause the person aspire for brand names.Rahu is Big, mouth,

beginning to which Rahu attach it make him big or branded or marketed or

known or you may call celebrity in that very thing . Ketu is also shade,but

it is tale,flage, smoke,end place of delusion , but Rahu is like Saturn

whose motives are worldly wisdom, giving a care and personal touch, Ketu is

like Mars who dares to die for principles can attack or leave to whom he

dislikes. But Saturn will oppose in friendly way will not like to have any

opposition. Saturn person unless and otherwise are not influenced by

Jupiter or Mars or Mercury will not speak much . This will happen when the

sublord of your ascendant will be in Rahu star .

 

Rahu acts like Saturn but still it is Warrior. It will prolong the War and

Ketu will finish it immediately , it is do or die situation.

 

So you are Rahu star and rahu in Ketu star , want to maintain but internally

ready to leave anything.

 

Sun is exalted another parameter of knowledge in Libra navmasha and crossed

over from Rahu degrees means Soul had seen the illusion of Knowledge ( Rahu

in Sagitarius).Jupiter is in the beginning of Cancer that means extremely

high quest for the knowledge. Sun had Jupiter in the 4rth Mars Mercury in

2nd to him to reach Ketu, and Ketu is in fight with mercury , it shows the

fights of daughter or sister etc. and of Mars interrupting your ways to

liberation.

 

You are to fight moon and Saturn in 4rth from Jupiter as they are causing

frustration or are putting you more towards the worldly affairs than towards

spiritualism. Axis in dual signs and Venus are parameters of your knowledge

being in dual signs.Rahu had more expertise of Sagittarius so it will lead

but Venus will be subordinate to this knowledge. You may say so about Ketu

too, its trine from Saturn Moon give delusion from the job from own mind and

Mother, Saturn having Jupiter in 10th and Venus 10th lord too is Jupiter ,

it gives you an exalted status due to Job as being a woman. As I had

written before that everybody had the right to attain the God of what so

ever type one's horoscope is, but as an astrologer it is my utmost duty to

speak the truth, with every one having ability to attain the liberation in

this very birth.Your Chart had highest desires of Spiritualism but lacks the

fire to gain this.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit sahni

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder Dada,

 

Whenever I read about someone pinning down to a TEE the precise nature and

karakattwa of Swarbhanu and products thereof after it met the blessed touch of

Lord Vishnu -- something made me recall that the lunar nodes have been described

to serve as surrogates!

 

Shadows can assume any form, for they represent a phase that has potential to

FORM as well as to CHANGE and then FORM!

 

It is futile to trap a gas, for instance, in a cylinder and assume that the

cylinder describes the SHAPE and FORM of the gas! If that were the case, then

oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon dioxide etc would all have the same shape and

form!

 

I hope this makes concrete sense to you?

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, " Inder Jit Sahni " <inder_jit_sahni

wrote:

>

> " very interesting. What is ketus nature. Illustrate with concrete

> examples.Take my horoscope for example. Ra is in dhanu 'n ju has just

> crossed ke- mokha/ knowledge karaka, ke. During ra dasa at birth, till 17

> yrs., I read a lot of Buddhist literature and aspired for moksha.

> Wud u say I was deluded by my mask. I think, life, subsequent to that during

> sa dasa - a time of suffering cud have been a time of delusion. But that is

> also not true as i felt one with the universe- I said I am the universe-

> Buddha, Shiva, Nother Mary etc . "

>

> This is easily said as to realize , Shankra said I am Brahm, Lord Budha

> said you are your own God In Jainism it is said there is nothing in the end

> only a zero remains. In fact every one had said the same thing but in

> different way. The great Scholars had translated it differently according

> to their academic knowledge, which is very different from the spiritual one.

> Both the academic and spiritual knowledge had differences, one who had

> attained Spiritual knowledge may tell that who is the good MBBS doctor but

> will not become a Doctor himself, most of the Spiritual inclined persons had

> tried to work for social reforms they may have done other works too. To my

> limited knowledge when Shankra said that I am Brahm then he is pointing

> towards the highest substance which is cause of us and the universe. He

> reached to his state without three gunas , his original form, he did not

> says that he is Lord Shiva or Lord Budha or Lord Vishnu ,but he said that

> all those too are of the same and one substance. When lord Budhas says that

> you are your own God that means you are responsible for your deeds, you are

> the cause of your rise and fall. You can attain your Brahm position without

> being anything else but to be a creator you will have to work hard like him

> to be in senseless state for millions of years . To be in Brahm position

> one should be without any guna that too is achieved within this body and not

> after leaving this body. Jainism too had said that when you crosses the

> boundry of your internal body you reach zero that is also talking about the

> state of Brahm without three gunas. This higher knowledge is never for

> discussion , writing more than this will be disobedience of the Spiritual

> masters or I may not be so deserving person to write about this.

>

>

>

> Birth Data 5th May 1955,21.37 , Delhi

>

> You are born under the influence of Rahu and Rahu is in Ketu star; you looks

> like a soul who was inspired for Moksha but fell in wrong hands and in

> overconfidence and with wrong type of teachers or remained much attached and

> thought that you are liberated , Rahu's in Jupiter Sign and in Ketu star

> and Jupiter crossed over from Ketu shows this as had been assumed by you. I

> am using Nakashtra here because we had already learned that star relation

> is more announced than the Sign. But it shows very great inspiration in you

> to be liberated to know about the hidden , as Ketu is in airy sign you are

> touched by the spiritual things, blessings ,or temples persons etc, as it is

> 8th house one have too much faith in Tantra, Mantra and miracles One must

> remember that 8th is expenditure to 9th house, expenditure is good and bad,

> good becomes your investment and bad becomes your energies to pay the

> previous karmic debts. In rashi chart it will give for the significance of

> the planet concerned and in the Bhava chart as we use for Placidus or

> topocentric it will work strictly for the House concerned. I am talking here

> about the Rashi chart.

>

>

>

> But let me reply what you had asked; Ketu is star of liberation means it cut

> you from the bonds of Three Gunas; that means you cut from the connections

> of the elements, in transit it liberate or give pain to the person on which

> ever natal position of the planet it moves; Even knowledge is satoguna move

> towards liberation but is not liberation.

>

>

>

> Jupiter Moon and Sun are main planets for Satoguna . Rahu Ketu Mars Saturn

> are Tamoguni , means are resources, Ketu in the extreme cases is Resources

> without any Guna , that is why it is Moksha karka. Mercury and Venus are

> Rajoguni, Lord Krishna says in Gita that human births are under the

> influence of Rajoguna and this is cause of all the sins. Aspiring for fame/

> knowledge/property/sensual pleasure etc all are due to Rajo guna where

> knowledge can cut the bonds . Rahu is Tamsik , cause of pride ego,

> presentation a wish to remain in light for glory or for any thing . It is

> shadow which gives the illusion of to which it shade.Rahu is brand the

> influence cause the person aspire for brand names.Rahu is Big, mouth,

> beginning to which Rahu attach it make him big or branded or marketed or

> known or you may call celebrity in that very thing . Ketu is also shade,but

> it is tale,flage, smoke,end place of delusion , but Rahu is like Saturn

> whose motives are worldly wisdom, giving a care and personal touch, Ketu is

> like Mars who dares to die for principles can attack or leave to whom he

> dislikes. But Saturn will oppose in friendly way will not like to have any

> opposition. Saturn person unless and otherwise are not influenced by

> Jupiter or Mars or Mercury will not speak much . This will happen when the

> sublord of your ascendant will be in Rahu star .

>

> Rahu acts like Saturn but still it is Warrior. It will prolong the War and

> Ketu will finish it immediately , it is do or die situation.

>

> So you are Rahu star and rahu in Ketu star , want to maintain but internally

> ready to leave anything.

>

> Sun is exalted another parameter of knowledge in Libra navmasha and crossed

> over from Rahu degrees means Soul had seen the illusion of Knowledge ( Rahu

> in Sagitarius).Jupiter is in the beginning of Cancer that means extremely

> high quest for the knowledge. Sun had Jupiter in the 4rth Mars Mercury in

> 2nd to him to reach Ketu, and Ketu is in fight with mercury , it shows the

> fights of daughter or sister etc. and of Mars interrupting your ways to

> liberation.

>

> You are to fight moon and Saturn in 4rth from Jupiter as they are causing

> frustration or are putting you more towards the worldly affairs than towards

> spiritualism. Axis in dual signs and Venus are parameters of your knowledge

> being in dual signs.Rahu had more expertise of Sagittarius so it will lead

> but Venus will be subordinate to this knowledge. You may say so about Ketu

> too, its trine from Saturn Moon give delusion from the job from own mind and

> Mother, Saturn having Jupiter in 10th and Venus 10th lord too is Jupiter ,

> it gives you an exalted status due to Job as being a woman. As I had

> written before that everybody had the right to attain the God of what so

> ever type one's horoscope is, but as an astrologer it is my utmost duty to

> speak the truth, with every one having ability to attain the liberation in

> this very birth.Your Chart had highest desires of Spiritualism but lacks the

> fire to gain this.

>

> With Best Wishes,

>

> Inder Jit sahni

>

>

>