Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Shri T. K. P. Ghopalji, Jai Shri Ram! <Does this mail has any Scientific matter !?!?!? You are talking much about scientific astrology! But you give much importance to mails like these.> The real Vamadevas were astronomers in the real sense of the word, unlike their modern namesakes, for whom the Vedas have nothing else to do except to decipher the janmapatri of every Tom, Dick and Harry! Hindu festivals are a part of Vedic rituals and are based on seasons, seasonal months---both solar and lunar---tithis and nakshatras! Seasons are because of the phenomenon of seasons, about which you must have read in primary school level geography books. Seasonal months---both lunar and solar---are two months of each season, as per the Vedic lore. They are all thus geographic phenomenon. Tithis are the distance between the Moon and the sun, divided by twelve. These are known as lunar phases, since purnima (Full Moon), Amanta (New Moon) etc. are all lunar phases from zero to thirty and are as such a part of astronomy! It is only through nakshatras, Junction Stars, that we are able to say that the Vedanga Jyotisha is a work of about 1400 BCE, because that work refers to the New Moon falling in Dhanishtha nakshatra, which coincided with Uttarayana i.e. Winter Solstice! That could have happened only in around 1400 BCE. We are also able to decide the dates of Yajur Veda as around 3000 BCE, because it talks of " Krittikas not swerving from the East " . There are similar other instances! All these details about calculating tithi, nakshatra, ritus and months-----but not rashis and planets!------have been given by Acharya Lagadha in his Vedanga Jyotisham in around 1400 BCE, but maybe " Vedic jyotishis " like you are unaware of the same, because, according to them " Vedanga Jyoitisha " means nothing but predicting as to who will have a heart attack on what date or who will be the minister in which year of his life, as per the sade sati or kalasapra dosha etc.etc. that may be running in his/her horoscope! And blissfully, jyotishis like you are unaware of the fact that Mesha, Vrisha etc. rashis, whether so called sayana or so called nirayana, are imaginary twelve division of a still imaginary circle known as ecliptic! And Mangal is the owner of the first imaginary division, Venus the owner of second imaginary division and so on! And no wonder, all these " properties " are " benami transactions " , but even then they have been " registered " by " almighty jyotishis " in the names of inanimate wandering bodies known as planets! And they fight tooth and nail to prove all that phantasmagoria as scientific and decry streamlining the Hindu calendar as unscientific! Vinaasha kaale vipareeta budhih! Jai Shri Ram A K Kaul , Ghopal TKP <astrogopalji wrote: Attn:Mr.Sanat Does this mail has any Scientific matter !?!?!? You are talking much about scientific astrology! But you give much importance to mails like these. Is it because you are unable to resist or you are for it ?!?!? I simply cant understand your science in astrology. Regards Tkp -- TKP Ghopal M.Com.,D.E.E., KP Astro Analyst 093666 23444// 04290 244374 </post?postID=nGVeyagr7T97Sj oSVyodDOKfPdu6QO6P4BsK-d9vQw2gqvVo9BXAHKlMKwUVvBgDDIiKmYQ29BoBIvYB> astrogopalji </post?postID=12YD89LcnoYiUt -pvzeYy7yJynb6uzgRklDsvWVPRI9NRKHvJQILzfLrzHoOxIfdRdp4g_FVAlWOVS0HspSYDqs> tkp.ghopal Poompatty,Tholasampatty Post., SALEM-636503 TN India On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:27 PM, jyotirved < </post?postID=qoqbq5LM0PLWyM VJDtXx0ivoMqpC62tGAZORYoYCx0Dfhbno0Ws18aZ5di5H3lymdupHz5rr_2V--A> jyotirved wrote: [ </post?act=reply & messageNum= 1648 & referer=/message/1648 & use_rte=1#127532bb17a14a 15_TopText#127532bb17a14a15_TopText> Attachment(s) from jyotirved included below] Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Here is the list of correct dates of some of the important fasts, festivals and fairs for 2010-11. This list has been compiled as per the Vedas, Vedanga Jyotisham, Puranas and siddhantas. In fact, this is almost a ditto copy of the list of festivals prepared by Shri Darshaney Lokesh in his " Mohan Kriti Tithi-Patrak " in Hindi, priced at Rs. 80; postage extra. His address is: Shri Darshaney Lokesh; 276, Gama-1, Greater Noida (UP)-201310 (Ph.0120-6544628; 09412354036) On perusing this list, you will see that there is a lot of difference from the dates of festivals as per Rashtirya Panchanga, which is actually " almighty " Lahiri Panchanga, and is thus neither as per the Vedas nor the Siddhantas, nor even modern astronomy, leave alone dharmashastras! Those Lahiri festivals are being observed because we are surrounded by " Vedic astrologers " who are actually anything but Vedic. And since those " Vedic astrologers " cannot " make correct predictions (sic!) " from any Rashichakra other than that of Lahiri, that is why they want the entire Hindu community to celebrate muhurtas and also festivals on " Lahiri " days! It is, though, a moot point as to how accurate (sic!) their predictions on the basis of " almighty " Lahiri Rashichakra are, since---just to cite one example---it was on the basis of that very Rashichakra that the NDA government had been advised by Jyotishis galore to advance the elections by several months, and the results are there for anybody to see---Poor Vajpayee's Rajya suffered an " akalamrityu " ---thanks to " Vedic astrologers " and their " Vedic astrology " . You will find from this list that these jyotishis want us to celebrate Pitra Amavasya on the day of Dipavali, celebrate shradha paksha during a time which is very auspicious otherwise, celebrate kharamasa and dhanurmasa when they are not prevailing and so on and so forth! They are also thrusting down our throat an adhika Vaishakha masa in 2010, when there is no adhikamasa as per the Vedanga Jyotisham during this year! It may be of interest to these " Vedic astrologers " that in the past, all the horoscopes were prepared from panchangas based on siddhantas like the Surya Siddhanta by Maya the mlechha, and all the siddhantas talk of " Bhanor Makar Sankranteh Shanmasah uttarayanam, karkyades-tathiava syat shanmasa dakshinayanam. Dwirashinathah ritavastatoapi shishiradayah, meshadayo dwadashaite hbagastaireva vatsarah " i.e " The six months of Uttarayana start from the day of Makar Sankranti (the shortest day of the year) and the six months of Dakshinayana from the day of Karkata Sankranti (the longest day of the year). Thence also are reckoned the ritus like Shishira etc. of two months each. These twelve rashis, commencing with Mesha are the months of which a year is made up. " (Surya Siddhanta -Madyamadhikara 9-10) In fact, the same thing has been repeated in almost all the Puranas, whether the Bhagavata or the Vishnu Purana or the Shiva Purana etc. etc. that Makara Sankranti is the shortest day of the year, Karakta Sankranti the longest day of the year, Mesha Sankranti the day of Vernal Equinox (when day is equal to night), Tula Sankranti the day of Autumn Equinox, when the day is equal to night again! All these points have been clarified in BVB6.docs; 1999b.docs etc. All these clarifications and pramanas from shastras as well as modern astronomy were sent to all the dharmacharyas. If in spite of that, these jagadgurus, who are supposed to be sarvajnyas, or " his holienss of art of this thing or that thing " or babas and yogis and tantriks etc. are acting like blind and deaf towards such a travesty of dharma, we must certainly try to find the reasons for the same! What is all the more surprising is that Arya Samajis, who are supposed to go by the Vedas and nothing but the Vedic lore, are also succumbing to " almighty " Lahiri Rashichakra which is anything but Vedic---since there are no Mesha etc. Rashis in the Vedas, as such no Makar or Kumbha Sankranti--- nor siddhantic, least of all as per modern astronomy! All these " nimitas " (omens) are certainly not good for the Hindu community as a whole! It is, as such, a Clarion Call to a common Hindu that he/she must revolt against such tyranny in the name of phalita-jyotisha by " Vedic astrologers " who are anything but Vedic, and start celebrating all the festivals and muhurtas on correct days! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul PS Anybody interested in understanding/discussing the gamut of the revised Hindu calendar may please join HinduCalendar forum where posts are not moderated and all the view points are discussed thoroughly. AKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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