Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Those who learned Jyotoish in decade of 80's lived under heavy and huge infatunation of theory proposed by two - three astrologers of that decade. That was a time when some astrologers engaged in making niche for them by tossing up theories, it helped them in standing out in public. The theory doesnt stand on a single case. Those are still in 80's mind, likes to get fascinated by joke that retrograde planet's cast their aspect from the previous house to house of occupency as well .... I won't give you data .... that I have rejecting such a joke as I want those of you who are stilly carrying 80's mind to enjoy the joke further. * retrograde planets cast aspect from previous house ... * forward moving planets cast aspect from the next house ..... * standstill planets don't cast aspect as they are blind, not moving anywhere .... * remaining planets can cast aspects from the house of occupancy if permitted by such type of astrologers. best wishes !! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > There was a question recently about drishtis of retrograde planets. Two planets: mars and saturn will be potentially the only ones that would need this consideration, since both have squints (Looking towards London while talking to Tokyo -- if you know what I mean!). > > For researchers a caveat: Don't test this retrograde drishti theory that has recently surfaced -- while or if saturn is in a common (dwiswabhava) rashi, and/or mars is in the remaining two kinds of rashis (generally speaking)... > > I hope you will agree, Raj_dada! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > Now you will be accused for spoon-feeding , Raj_dada :-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utkal, > > > > > > Such mistakes are created by Rashi of the planets! > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo will Aspect Dhanu ? > > > > > > > > How Mr Rohini ? By Mistake .... > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Vinay_jee, > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep in mind, though, that saturn in virgo is aspecting > > > > meen, mithun, and dhanu. When Saturn goes to libra in the near future it > > > > will aspect (build bridges with, actually!) planets in vrishabh, simh, > > > > kumbh while sparing vrischik as per classics. > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , vinayak tandle vinayakmechie@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans, > > > > > >  > > > > > > Please clarify whether Virgo placed Retrograde Saturn's( > > > > Karka Lagna) 3rd dristi will be on Cancer or Scorpio. I happened to > > > > read a lesson on " Saturn Mantras by Visti larsenji. I am facing the > > > > same problems as mentioned in the below para. In my chart saturn is > > > > conjunct moon as well as it aspects kark lagna( incase retrograde > > > > drisiti is reverse), or it aspects AL incase the dristi is direct. In my > > > > professional life of 5 years I am very Unhappy. impression > > > > > >  > > > > > > " When the AL is conjunct or aspected by Saturn the dirt appears on > > > > the image of a person--acknowledgement is slow to come and they get > > > > recognition only later in life. To purify this Saturn, insert > > > > çréà bija into the mantra. This cool and cleansing mantra will > > > > purify the ragged, poor energy of Saturn and remove this from the image > > > > one projects to the world. > > > > > > || Auð çréà viñëave namaù || > > > > > > (Auð, praise the all-pervasiveness, cleanse impurity) > > > > > > Kléà is käma bija†" the desire fulfilling sound, added > > > > when Saturn is damaging the seventh house or A7. Hréà is added when > > > > Saturn is conjunct or aspecting the tenth house or causing problems to > > > > the A10. Saturn in the tenth can cause falls from high positions in > > > > career. Saturn with the A10 will make a person work very hard and no > > > > matter how hard they work they will be asked to work harder. When Saturn > > > > is with the A10 the perception is that the person is not working hard > > > > enough. So by chanting to Viñëu with hréà béja this Saturn > > > > becomes cleansed of its hardness and cleansed of the activities that > > > > will make a person fall from a high position. " > > > > > >  > > > > > > DOB: 17 APRIL 1981 > > > > > > POB: BELGAUM KARNATAKA INDIA > > > > > > TOB: 14:10 > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards > > > > > >  > > > > > > Vinayak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Although I was very active during 80's I must be reading quality literature and interacting with serious jyotishis because I never came across any mention of #2, 3 and 4 :-) #1 appears in a nadi which was written way before the '80s ;-) The information in this posting to which I reply can be discussed further as long as precise and verifiable information can be produced. No point in shooting aimlessly in the air, as Jyotish has become for many! ;-) Rohiniranjan , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > Those who learned Jyotoish in decade of 80's lived under heavy and huge > infatunation of theory proposed by two - three astrologers of that > decade. > > That was a time when some astrologers engaged in making niche for them > by tossing up theories, it helped them in standing out in public. > > The theory doesnt stand on a single case. > > Those are still in 80's mind, likes to get fascinated by joke that > retrograde planet's cast their aspect from the previous house to house > of occupency as well .... > > I won't give you data .... that I have rejecting such a joke as I want > those of you who are stilly carrying 80's mind to enjoy the joke > further. > > * retrograde planets cast aspect from previous house ... > * forward moving planets cast aspect from the next house ..... > * standstill planets don't cast aspect as they are blind, not moving > anywhere .... > * remaining planets can cast aspects from the house of occupancy if > permitted by such type of astrologers. > > > > best wishes !! > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > There was a question recently about drishtis of retrograde planets. > Two planets: mars and saturn will be potentially the only ones that > would need this consideration, since both have squints (Looking towards > London while talking to Tokyo -- if you know what I mean!). > > > > For researchers a caveat: Don't test this retrograde drishti theory > that has recently surfaced -- while or if saturn is in a common > (dwiswabhava) rashi, and/or mars is in the remaining two kinds of rashis > (generally speaking)... > > > > I hope you will agree, Raj_dada! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Now you will be accused for spoon-feeding , Raj_dada :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Utkal, > > > > > > > > Such mistakes are created by Rashi of the planets! > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo will Aspect Dhanu ? > > > > > > > > > > How Mr Rohini ? By Mistake .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep in mind, though, that saturn in virgo is > aspecting > > > > > meen, mithun, and dhanu. When Saturn goes to libra in the near > future it > > > > > will aspect (build bridges with, actually!) planets in vrishabh, > simh, > > > > > kumbh while sparing vrischik as per classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , vinayak tandle > vinayakmechie@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans, > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Please clarify whether Virgo placed Retrograde > Saturn's( > > > > > Karka Lagna) 3rd dristi will be on Cancer or Scorpio. I > happened to > > > > > read a lesson on " Saturn Mantras by Visti larsenji. I am facing > the > > > > > same problems as mentioned in the below para. In my chart saturn > is > > > > > conjunct moon as well as it aspects kark lagna( incase > retrograde > > > > > drisiti is reverse), or it aspects AL incase the dristi is > direct. In my > > > > > professional life of 5 years I am very Unhappy. impression > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > " When the AL is conjunct or aspected by Saturn the dirt > appears on > > > > > the image of a person--acknowledgement is slow to come and they > get > > > > > recognition only later in life. To purify this Saturn, insert > > > > > çréà bija into the mantra. This cool and cleansing > mantra will > > > > > purify the ragged, poor energy of Saturn and remove this from > the image > > > > > one projects to the world. > > > > > > > || Auð çréà viñëave namaù || > > > > > > > (Auð, praise the all-pervasiveness, cleanse impurity) > > > > > > > Kléà is käma bija†" the desire fulfilling sound, > added > > > > > when Saturn is damaging the seventh house or A7. Hréà is > added when > > > > > Saturn is conjunct or aspecting the tenth house or causing > problems to > > > > > the A10. Saturn in the tenth can cause falls from high positions > in > > > > > career. Saturn with the A10 will make a person work very hard > and no > > > > > matter how hard they work they will be asked to work harder. > When Saturn > > > > > is with the A10 the perception is that the person is not working > hard > > > > > enough. So by chanting to Viñëu with hréà béja this > Saturn > > > > > becomes cleansed of its hardness and cleansed of the activities > that > > > > > will make a person fall from a high position. " > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > DOB: 17 APRIL 1981 > > > > > > > POB: BELGAUM KARNATAKA INDIA > > > > > > > TOB: 14:10 > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Vinayak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 In the groups, most insincere one's vouch for sincerity, and that sincerity at his time of activity? Written in Nadi .... who saw it ? Written in Nadi ... and that doesn't require validation .... great sincerity ?? If a retro planet can aspect from the previous house ... why it can't aspect from the next house ? There was another page in that Nadi .... with sincerety ? Dump garbage ....... 80's garbage is welcome !! Sincerety is no Validation ..... Sincerety requires Gossips, Doing Gossips is true sincerety, Rahu's sincerety !! Another Sincerety ------------------- Somebody had written in his web site that AM changed Late Rajiv Gandhi's lagna overnight, didn't give Scanned copy, just floated an idea .... for those who loves strange things, even didn't care giving name of person who authored astrological articals on Late Rajiv Gandhi ... shifted the needle of suspecion to the editor.... !! Whatsoever it may have been, whether done by editor BV Raman or by some author, no body does !! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Although I was very active during 80's I must be reading quality literature and interacting with serious jyotishis because I never came across any mention of #2, 3 and 4 :-) > > #1 appears in a nadi which was written way before the '80s ;-) > > The information in this posting to which I reply can be discussed further as long as precise and verifiable information can be produced. No point in shooting aimlessly in the air, as Jyotish has become for many! ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Those who learned Jyotoish in decade of 80's lived under heavy and huge > > infatunation of theory proposed by two - three astrologers of that > > decade. > > > > That was a time when some astrologers engaged in making niche for them > > by tossing up theories, it helped them in standing out in public. > > > > The theory doesnt stand on a single case. > > > > Those are still in 80's mind, likes to get fascinated by joke that > > retrograde planet's cast their aspect from the previous house to house > > of occupency as well .... > > > > I won't give you data .... that I have rejecting such a joke as I want > > those of you who are stilly carrying 80's mind to enjoy the joke > > further. > > > > * retrograde planets cast aspect from previous house ... > > * forward moving planets cast aspect from the next house ..... > > * standstill planets don't cast aspect as they are blind, not moving > > anywhere .... > > * remaining planets can cast aspects from the house of occupancy if > > permitted by such type of astrologers. > > > > > > > > best wishes !! > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > There was a question recently about drishtis of retrograde planets. > > Two planets: mars and saturn will be potentially the only ones that > > would need this consideration, since both have squints (Looking towards > > London while talking to Tokyo -- if you know what I mean!). > > > > > > For researchers a caveat: Don't test this retrograde drishti theory > > that has recently surfaced -- while or if saturn is in a common > > (dwiswabhava) rashi, and/or mars is in the remaining two kinds of rashis > > (generally speaking)... > > > > > > I hope you will agree, Raj_dada! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Now you will be accused for spoon-feeding , Raj_dada :-) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Utkal, > > > > > > > > > > Such mistakes are created by Rashi of the planets! > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo will Aspect Dhanu ? > > > > > > > > > > > > How Mr Rohini ? By Mistake .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep in mind, though, that saturn in virgo is > > aspecting > > > > > > meen, mithun, and dhanu. When Saturn goes to libra in the near > > future it > > > > > > will aspect (build bridges with, actually!) planets in vrishabh, > > simh, > > > > > > kumbh while sparing vrischik as per classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , vinayak tandle > > vinayakmechie@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans, > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Please clarify whether Virgo placed Retrograde > > Saturn's( > > > > > > Karka Lagna) 3rd dristi will be on Cancer or Scorpio. I > > happened to > > > > > > read a lesson on " Saturn Mantras by Visti larsenji. I am facing > > the > > > > > > same problems as mentioned in the below para. In my chart saturn > > is > > > > > > conjunct moon as well as it aspects kark lagna( incase > > retrograde > > > > > > drisiti is reverse), or it aspects AL incase the dristi is > > direct. In my > > > > > > professional life of 5 years I am very Unhappy. impression > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > " When the AL is conjunct or aspected by Saturn the dirt > > appears on > > > > > > the image of a person--acknowledgement is slow to come and they > > get > > > > > > recognition only later in life. To purify this Saturn, insert > > > > > > çréà bija into the mantra. This cool and cleansing > > mantra will > > > > > > purify the ragged, poor energy of Saturn and remove this from > > the image > > > > > > one projects to the world. > > > > > > > > || Auð çréà viñëave namaù || > > > > > > > > (Auð, praise the all-pervasiveness, cleanse impurity) > > > > > > > > Kléà is käma bija†" the desire fulfilling sound, > > added > > > > > > when Saturn is damaging the seventh house or A7. Hréà is > > added when > > > > > > Saturn is conjunct or aspecting the tenth house or causing > > problems to > > > > > > the A10. Saturn in the tenth can cause falls from high positions > > in > > > > > > career. Saturn with the A10 will make a person work very hard > > and no > > > > > > matter how hard they work they will be asked to work harder. > > When Saturn > > > > > > is with the A10 the perception is that the person is not working > > hard > > > > > > enough. So by chanting to Viñëu with hréà béja this > > Saturn > > > > > > becomes cleansed of its hardness and cleansed of the activities > > that > > > > > > will make a person fall from a high position. " > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > DOB: 17 APRIL 1981 > > > > > > > > POB: BELGAUM KARNATAKA INDIA > > > > > > > > TOB: 14:10 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Vinayak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Those who were observing ...! Without getting upset or getting involved ;-) Attachment creates problems and anguish and rancour! Even in those on the Hermetic path! RR_, , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > In the groups, most insincere one's vouch for sincerity, and that > sincerity at his time of activity? > > Written in Nadi .... who saw it ? > > Written in Nadi ... and that doesn't require validation .... great > sincerity ?? > > If a retro planet can aspect from the previous house ... why it can't > aspect from the next house ? > > There was another page in that Nadi .... with sincerety ? > > Dump garbage ....... 80's garbage is welcome !! > > Sincerety is no Validation ..... Sincerety requires Gossips, Doing > Gossips is true sincerety, Rahu's sincerety !! > > Another Sincerety > ------------------- > > Somebody had written in his web site that AM changed Late Rajiv Gandhi's > lagna overnight, didn't give Scanned copy, just floated an idea .... for > those who loves strange things, even didn't care giving name of person > who authored astrological articals on Late Rajiv Gandhi ... shifted the > needle of suspecion to the editor.... !! > > Whatsoever it may have been, whether done by editor BV Raman or by some > author, no body does !! > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > Although I was very active during 80's I must be reading quality > literature and interacting with serious jyotishis because I never came > across any mention of #2, 3 and 4 :-) > > > > #1 appears in a nadi which was written way before the '80s ;-) > > > > The information in this posting to which I reply can be discussed > further as long as precise and verifiable information can be produced. > No point in shooting aimlessly in the air, as Jyotish has become for > many! ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Those who learned Jyotoish in decade of 80's lived under heavy and > huge > > > infatunation of theory proposed by two - three astrologers of that > > > decade. > > > > > > That was a time when some astrologers engaged in making niche for > them > > > by tossing up theories, it helped them in standing out in public. > > > > > > The theory doesnt stand on a single case. > > > > > > Those are still in 80's mind, likes to get fascinated by joke that > > > retrograde planet's cast their aspect from the previous house to > house > > > of occupency as well .... > > > > > > I won't give you data .... that I have rejecting such a joke as I > want > > > those of you who are stilly carrying 80's mind to enjoy the joke > > > further. > > > > > > * retrograde planets cast aspect from previous house ... > > > * forward moving planets cast aspect from the next house ..... > > > * standstill planets don't cast aspect as they are blind, not moving > > > anywhere .... > > > * remaining planets can cast aspects from the house of occupancy if > > > permitted by such type of astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes !! > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There was a question recently about drishtis of retrograde > planets. > > > Two planets: mars and saturn will be potentially the only ones that > > > would need this consideration, since both have squints (Looking > towards > > > London while talking to Tokyo -- if you know what I mean!). > > > > > > > > For researchers a caveat: Don't test this retrograde drishti > theory > > > that has recently surfaced -- while or if saturn is in a common > > > (dwiswabhava) rashi, and/or mars is in the remaining two kinds of > rashis > > > (generally speaking)... > > > > > > > > I hope you will agree, Raj_dada! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > jyotish_vani@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Now you will be accused for spoon-feeding , Raj_dada :-) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Raj " > <rajbhardwaj1949@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Utkal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Such mistakes are created by Rashi of the planets! > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > > > <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in Virgo will Aspect Dhanu ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How Mr Rohini ? By Mistake .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep in mind, though, that saturn in virgo is > > > aspecting > > > > > > > meen, mithun, and dhanu. When Saturn goes to libra in the > near > > > future it > > > > > > > will aspect (build bridges with, actually!) planets in > vrishabh, > > > simh, > > > > > > > kumbh while sparing vrischik as per classics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , vinayak tandle > > > vinayakmechie@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans, > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Please clarify whether Virgo placed Retrograde > > > Saturn's( > > > > > > > Karka Lagna) 3rd dristi will be on Cancer or Scorpio. I > > > happened to > > > > > > > read a lesson on " Saturn Mantras by Visti larsenji. I am > facing > > > the > > > > > > > same problems as mentioned in the below para. In my chart > saturn > > > is > > > > > > > conjunct moon as well as it aspects kark lagna( incase > > > retrograde > > > > > > > drisiti is reverse), or it aspects AL incase the dristi is > > > direct. In my > > > > > > > professional life of 5 years I am very Unhappy. impression > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > " When the AL is conjunct or aspected by Saturn the dirt > > > appears on > > > > > > > the image of a person--acknowledgement is slow to come and > they > > > get > > > > > > > recognition only later in life. To purify this Saturn, > insert > > > > > > > çréà bija into the mantra. This cool and cleansing > > > mantra will > > > > > > > purify the ragged, poor energy of Saturn and remove this > from > > > the image > > > > > > > one projects to the world. > > > > > > > > > || Auð çréà viñëave namaù || > > > > > > > > > (Auð, praise the all-pervasiveness, cleanse > impurity) > > > > > > > > > Kléà is käma bija†" the desire fulfilling > sound, > > > added > > > > > > > when Saturn is damaging the seventh house or A7. Hréà is > > > added when > > > > > > > Saturn is conjunct or aspecting the tenth house or causing > > > problems to > > > > > > > the A10. Saturn in the tenth can cause falls from high > positions > > > in > > > > > > > career. Saturn with the A10 will make a person work very > hard > > > and no > > > > > > > matter how hard they work they will be asked to work harder. > > > When Saturn > > > > > > > is with the A10 the perception is that the person is not > working > > > hard > > > > > > > enough. So by chanting to Viñëu with hréà béja > this > > > Saturn > > > > > > > becomes cleansed of its hardness and cleansed of the > activities > > > that > > > > > > > will make a person fall from a high position. " > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > DOB: 17 APRIL 1981 > > > > > > > > > POB: BELGAUM KARNATAKA INDIA > > > > > > > > > TOB: 14:10 > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Vinayak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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