Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Namaste Partha, Thank you for the data. > > > Birth particular > > > 15/december/1976 > > > Time: 8 :30 AM > > > PLace: New Delhi, > Since you have raised this topic, i would ask you kindly verify few more > more events using your research TP technique for everybody's benefit. > > Mother's death: August 29, 1986, morning time i guess > National Scholarship: June 30, 1994 > Loss of Job: March 08, 2001 > Meeting spiritual guru: Amavasya, July 28, 2003, midnight around 11 o clock > first psychic experience. I will first analyze the last event. Upasana and spiritual progress should be seen from D-20 as per Parasara. Using solar months, we get annual TP chart on 2002 Nov 28 at 1:38 pm. In D-20, Rahu is 7th lord in 2nd and his dasa gave the event. Using soli-lunar months, we get annual TP chart 2002 Dec 27 at 10:16 pm. Jupiter dasa Mars antardasa was running as per annual TA dasa. Taking exalted Guru karaka Jupiter as lagna in D-20, 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in 1st and joins 5th and 10th lord Mars. There is a powerful raja yoga in Guru lagna. Jupiter-Mars antardasa gave the event. Moreover, Sun, Moon and nodes on lagna axis suggest powerful mystical experiences. * * * BTW, I shared research on stationary planets earlier (http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/articles/stat_transit.pdf). When a planet becomes stationary, the points it aspects in various natal divisional charts get activated by it and important events in life can be given. Mars was at 16Aq20 on the day of the event and became perfectly stationary on July 29 (next day). He had a close aspect on Mercury at 19 deg Leo in natal D-20. Mars is the 9th lord in natal D-20 and Mercury is the 12th lord from AK in natal D-20! So close aspect of transit Mars on natal D-20 Mercury is of significance for meeting guru and having liberating experiences. * * * Let me take the loss of job. Using solar months, we get TP on 2000 Nov 19 at 1:18 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mercury gave job loss. In D-10, Mercury is lagna lord in 9th with 9th lord Saturn. Why job problem? Using soli-lunar months, we get TP on 2000 Dec 18 at 11:06 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mars gave the problem. Mars is the badhaka lord in D-10. As per my reckoning, he is in the 10th house. Badhaka lord in 10th can give a job loss. From Moon, he is the 3rd and 8th lord in 3rd house. * * * Let me take the scholarship. Using soli-lunar months, event was given in Saturn's annual TA dasa. Saturn is the 6th lord exalted in 3rd with 3rd lord in moolatrikona, in D-24. That VRY shows competitive success. * * * Repeated from the other email: For annual birthday, we should match the month and day with the month and day of birth every year. The question is what month to use. Month is a division of year. Each year should start when a specific month starts and end when a specific month ends. Day is a division of month. Each month should start when a specific day starts and end when a specific day ends. If we use solar months as the months and tithis as the days, a month may begin in the MIDDLE of ANY tithi (day) and it may end in the MIDDLE of ANY tithi (day). There is a mixup. If we use soli-lunar months as the months and tithis as the days, then each month starts when a particular tithi starts and ends when a particular tithi ends. Months and days are lined up. This is a far more consistent methodology. Best regards, Narasimha - Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org Spirituality: Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings - ---- Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > Dear Narasimha, > > Since you have raised this topic, i would ask you kindly verify few more > more events using your research TP technique for everybody's benefit. > > Mother's death: August 29, 1986, morning time i guess > National Scholarship: June 30, 1994 > Loss of Job: March 08, 2001 > Meeting spiritual guru: Amavasya, July 28, 2003, midnight around 11 o clock > first psychic experience. > > Regarrds > Partha > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Let us look at the Tithi Pravesha chart of 2008-09 for the birthdata given > > by Partha below. Using standard SJC teachings, annual TP chart is cast for > > 2008 November 20, 8:24:12 pm (IST), New Delhi. Jupiter's Tithi Ashtottari > > dasa gave the accident. Jupiter is the 7th and 10th lord in 7th in > > moolatrikona, joined by the 5th lord and giving a raja yoga. Why did he have > > a major accident in Jupiter dasa, be bed-ridden for 3 months and why did his > > career suffer? > > > > Though one can justify any event with any chart or any dasa or any > > technique by seeing shapes in clouds and beating around the bush, I honestly > > could not have seen that event in Jupiter dasa in that chart. > > > > * * * > > > > Now, note that Partha was born on *Margasira* Krishna Navami with Sun in > > Sc. In the TP chart above, Sun is in Sc again, but the tithi is *Karthika* > > Krishna Navami. Though solar month has been preserved, soli-lunar month > > (which is the basis for tithis!!!) has not been preserved. > > > > If you make a TP chart strictly using soli-lunar calendar (instead of > > mixing up soli-lunar days with solar months as taught by Sanjay ji), you > > will get the annual TP chart on 2008 December 20, 10:02:13 am (IST), New > > Delhi. That happens to be Margasira Krishna Navami, though Sun is in Sg. In > > fact, his lunar birthday is celebrated on that day in tradition! > > > > In this chart, Cp rises. Three planets are in the 12th house, whether you > > use SJC reckoning or the house reckoning I recommend. The 12th lord Jupiter > > is debilitated and with Rahu. This explains being bed-ridden much better. > > Saturn is in the 8th house in D-1 and D-30 and the accident occurred in his > > dasa as per both annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa and annual Vimsottari dasa. > > > > * * * > > > > There is no comparison. This chart explains the events on the ground much > > better than the version of TP chart given by Sanjay ji's teachings. If you > > see a TP chart not explaining events well, please try the TP chart based > > strictly on soli-lunar months ( " Preferences " , " Related to calculations " , > > " Tithi Prevesha Calculation Options " in JHora). The default in JHora is > > Sanjay ji's teaching. > > > > As I mentioned before, Sanjay ji was not sure in 1998-99 whether solar or > > soli-lunar months should be used in TP. He honestly told that to me and > > asked me to research. We ended up teaching solar month based TP. The result > > of my research is that solar months should not be mixed up and soli-lunar > > months should be used. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- > > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org > > Spirituality: > > Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings > > ------------------------- > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Partha Sarathy > > <partvinu wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I had an accident last year because of which was bedridden for three > > months. You > > > can use either Narayana dasa or vimshottari to analyse the event for > > everybody's > > > benefit. > > > Transits can also be used. > > > > > > Event: June 11, 2009, 4:45 AM, chennai > > > > > > Birth particular > > > 15/december/1976 > > > Time: 8 :30 AM > > > PLace: New Delhi, > > > > > > Regards > > > Partha > > > > > Dear Goel Sir, > > > > > > Thank you. Honestly, i was expecting good last year, but everything > > > went from bad to worse, no salary for months, bad treatment at office > > > compounded matters. > > > Anyways, i am waiting for Jupiter dasa, atleast he should provide some > > > relief to the nonsense i am facing since 17 years. > > > > > > Regards > > > Partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Narasimha ji Thank you for the detailed analysis using Partha's data . It definetly helps novices learn the TP properly. I have been wanting to ask this doubt on Badhaka Lord and Badhakesh perspective used by Rishi Parashara.Please forgive me if any silly mistakes in intrepretation , just trying to learn thats all . 1.Would you go by the definition as given by modern intrepreters of Badhaka Lord and Badhakesh given in the BPHS. If so has not the Rishi used the Concept of Badhaka only with respect to rasi based dashas like Chara dasha and not nakshatra based system like Vimsottari. In partha's case of job loss you wrote Let me take the loss of job. Using solar months, we get TP on 2000 Nov 19 at 1:18 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mercury gave job loss. In D-10, Mercury is lagna lord in 9th with 9th lord Saturn. Why job problem? " Using soli-lunar months, we get TP on 2000 Dec 18 at 11:06 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mars gave the problem. Mars is the badhaka lord in D-10. As per my reckoning, he is in the 10th house. Badhaka lord in 10th can give a job loss. From Moon, he is the 3rd and 8th lord in 3rd house " Using the Data he has given and 7.4 Jhora am getting Dasamsa with Gemini Lagna ....Using Parashara's definition should not Sagittarius be the Badhaka lord ? and still can that be used in intrepretation other than chara dasa . Am I missing anything..Please clarify if possible . Regards Vemparla Ram Kishore vedic astrology , Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote: > > Namaste Partha, > > Thank you for the data. > > > > > Birth particular > > > > 15/december/1976 > > > > Time: 8 :30 AM > > > > PLace: New Delhi, > > > Since you have raised this topic, i would ask you kindly verify few more > > more events using your research TP technique for everybody's benefit. > > > > Mother's death: August 29, 1986, morning time i guess > > National Scholarship: June 30, 1994 > > Loss of Job: March 08, 2001 > > Meeting spiritual guru: Amavasya, July 28, 2003, midnight around 11 o clock > > first psychic experience. > > I will first analyze the last event. Upasana and spiritual progress should be seen from D-20 as per Parasara. Using solar months, we get annual TP chart on 2002 Nov 28 at 1:38 pm. In D-20, Rahu is 7th lord in 2nd and his dasa gave the event. > > Using soli-lunar months, we get annual TP chart 2002 Dec 27 at 10:16 pm. Jupiter dasa Mars antardasa was running as per annual TA dasa. Taking exalted Guru karaka Jupiter as lagna in D-20, 9th lord Jupiter is exalted in 1st and joins 5th and 10th lord Mars. There is a powerful raja yoga in Guru lagna. Jupiter-Mars antardasa gave the event. Moreover, Sun, Moon and nodes on lagna axis suggest powerful mystical experiences. > > * * * > > BTW, I shared research on stationary planets earlier (http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/articles/stat_transit.pdf). When a planet becomes stationary, the points it aspects in various natal divisional charts get activated by it and important events in life can be given. > > Mars was at 16Aq20 on the day of the event and became perfectly stationary on July 29 (next day). He had a close aspect on Mercury at 19 deg Leo in natal D-20. Mars is the 9th lord in natal D-20 and Mercury is the 12th lord from AK in natal D-20! So close aspect of transit Mars on natal D-20 Mercury is of significance for meeting guru and having liberating experiences. > > * * * > > Let me take the loss of job. Using solar months, we get TP on 2000 Nov 19 at 1:18 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mercury gave job loss. In D-10, Mercury is lagna lord in 9th with 9th lord Saturn. Why job problem? > > Using soli-lunar months, we get TP on 2000 Dec 18 at 11:06 pm. Annual TA dasa of Mars gave the problem. Mars is the badhaka lord in D-10. As per my reckoning, he is in the 10th house. Badhaka lord in 10th can give a job loss. From Moon, he is the 3rd and 8th lord in 3rd house. > > * * * > > Let me take the scholarship. Using soli-lunar months, event was given in Saturn's annual TA dasa. Saturn is the 6th lord exalted in 3rd with 3rd lord in moolatrikona, in D-24. That VRY shows competitive success. > > * * * > > Repeated from the other email: > > For annual birthday, we should match the month and day with the month and day of birth every year. The question is what month to use. > > Month is a division of year. Each year should start when a specific month starts and end when a specific month ends. Day is a division of month. Each month should start when a specific day starts and end when a specific day ends. > > If we use solar months as the months and tithis as the days, a month may begin in the MIDDLE of ANY tithi (day) and it may end in the MIDDLE of ANY tithi (day). There is a mixup. > > If we use soli-lunar months as the months and tithis as the days, then each month starts when a particular tithi starts and ends when a particular tithi ends. Months and days are lined up. This is a far more consistent methodology. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > - > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org > Spirituality: > Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings > - > > ---- Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > Since you have raised this topic, i would ask you kindly verify few more > > more events using your research TP technique for everybody's benefit. > > > > Mother's death: August 29, 1986, morning time i guess > > National Scholarship: June 30, 1994 > > Loss of Job: March 08, 2001 > > Meeting spiritual guru: Amavasya, July 28, 2003, midnight around 11 o clock > > first psychic experience. > > > > Regarrds > > Partha > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Let us look at the Tithi Pravesha chart of 2008-09 for the birthdata given > > > by Partha below. Using standard SJC teachings, annual TP chart is cast for > > > 2008 November 20, 8:24:12 pm (IST), New Delhi. Jupiter's Tithi Ashtottari > > > dasa gave the accident. Jupiter is the 7th and 10th lord in 7th in > > > moolatrikona, joined by the 5th lord and giving a raja yoga. Why did he have > > > a major accident in Jupiter dasa, be bed-ridden for 3 months and why did his > > > career suffer? > > > > > > Though one can justify any event with any chart or any dasa or any > > > technique by seeing shapes in clouds and beating around the bush, I honestly > > > could not have seen that event in Jupiter dasa in that chart. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Now, note that Partha was born on *Margasira* Krishna Navami with Sun in > > > Sc. In the TP chart above, Sun is in Sc again, but the tithi is *Karthika* > > > Krishna Navami. Though solar month has been preserved, soli-lunar month > > > (which is the basis for tithis!!!) has not been preserved. > > > > > > If you make a TP chart strictly using soli-lunar calendar (instead of > > > mixing up soli-lunar days with solar months as taught by Sanjay ji), you > > > will get the annual TP chart on 2008 December 20, 10:02:13 am (IST), New > > > Delhi. That happens to be Margasira Krishna Navami, though Sun is in Sg. In > > > fact, his lunar birthday is celebrated on that day in tradition! > > > > > > In this chart, Cp rises. Three planets are in the 12th house, whether you > > > use SJC reckoning or the house reckoning I recommend. The 12th lord Jupiter > > > is debilitated and with Rahu. This explains being bed-ridden much better. > > > Saturn is in the 8th house in D-1 and D-30 and the accident occurred in his > > > dasa as per both annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa and annual Vimsottari dasa. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > There is no comparison. This chart explains the events on the ground much > > > better than the version of TP chart given by Sanjay ji's teachings. If you > > > see a TP chart not explaining events well, please try the TP chart based > > > strictly on soli-lunar months ( " Preferences " , " Related to calculations " , > > > " Tithi Prevesha Calculation Options " in JHora). The default in JHora is > > > Sanjay ji's teaching. > > > > > > As I mentioned before, Sanjay ji was not sure in 1998-99 whether solar or > > > soli-lunar months should be used in TP. He honestly told that to me and > > > asked me to research. We ended up teaching solar month based TP. The result > > > of my research is that solar months should not be mixed up and soli-lunar > > > months should be used. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > > > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings, > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana: > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org > > > Spirituality: > > > Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Partha Sarathy > > > <partvinu@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I had an accident last year because of which was bedridden for three > > > months. You > > > > can use either Narayana dasa or vimshottari to analyse the event for > > > everybody's > > > > benefit. > > > > Transits can also be used. > > > > > > > > Event: June 11, 2009, 4:45 AM, chennai > > > > > > > > Birth particular > > > > 15/december/1976 > > > > Time: 8 :30 AM > > > > PLace: New Delhi, > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Partha > > > > > > > Dear Goel Sir, > > > > > > > > Thank you. Honestly, i was expecting good last year, but everything > > > > went from bad to worse, no salary for months, bad treatment at office > > > > compounded matters. > > > > Anyways, i am waiting for Jupiter dasa, atleast he should provide some > > > > relief to the nonsense i am facing since 17 years. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Partha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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