PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked At Swami Ramdeva

[Guest guest]

You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego -

 

//

 

By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

 

//

 

Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything to

any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his

faulty line of vedic astrology.

 

 

 

Go through following -

 

jyotisa/message/27

<jyotisa/message/27>

Namaste friends,

 

This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

------------------------------- Namaste friends,

 

This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will be

great!

Best regards,

Narasimha

him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

Best regards,

Narasimha

---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

---------

 

Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

 

I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for

the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against superstition.

But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC

website:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

 

The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

 

> If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs.

>

> " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

lines on

> your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this

talk

> of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he says.

>

> " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is

> everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or

> more auspicious? " he asks. "

 

I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different levels

of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

 

For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what you

said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space. There

is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or

Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called

auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a liberated

sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

 

If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and actions

started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does

not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham " does

not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good

and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply different

manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated

sage.

 

However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated

sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and hence

stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot see

good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion and

joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay

without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in the

same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and

(so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her and

the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at the

(so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

 

The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual

vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as a

delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not only

the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

 

When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal

with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there is

God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing up

different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

 

Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction

between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune,

life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the working

of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without self-realization,

immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the astrological

teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure

and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his

activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara,

Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

planning the activities.

 

By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

 

I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a few

paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers loot

their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All that

must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and

not the fault of the subject itself.

 

There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere

and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a

reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT and

a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of

Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology enthusiasts

like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis. I

do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software

for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also free.

I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

 

As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and skepticism.

Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology. When

other respected people like you with great following denounce astrology,

it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If you

have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments based

on false logic and make things that are already difficult more difficult

for genuine people.

 

Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of ancient

rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to

ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with good

judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings of

rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

 

Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on Jyotisha,

I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and

have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work you

have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda. Please

keep up your great work.

 

Sincere regards,

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

 

26 Seaver Farm Lane

South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

email: pvr

Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

-------------------------------

Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

<http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

<http://www..org/>

-------------------------------

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken names

to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

wishing advise......

gopi.

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

>

> You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego

-

>

> //

>

> By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

of

> people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

doing

> great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

>

> //

>

> Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything

to

> any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his

> faulty line of vedic astrology.

>

>

>

> Go through following -

>

> jyotisa/message/27

> <jyotisa/message/27>

> Namaste friends,

>

> This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

>

> This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will

be

> great!

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> ---------

>

> Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

>

> I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for

> the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

superstition.

> But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC

> website:

>

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

>

> The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

>

> > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs.

> >

> > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> lines on

> > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this

> talk

> > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

says.

> >

> > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is

> > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or

> > more auspicious? " he asks. "

>

> I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

levels

> of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

>

> For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

you

> said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

There

> is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or

> Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called

> auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

liberated

> sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

>

> If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

actions

> started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does

> not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham " does

> not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good

> and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

different

> manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated

> sage.

>

> However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated

> sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

hence

> stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

see

> good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

and

> joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay

> without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

the

> same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and

> (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

and

> the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

the

> (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

>

> The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual

> vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as

a

> delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

only

> the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

>

> When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal

> with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

is

> God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

up

> different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

>

> Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction

> between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune,

> life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

working

> of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

self-realization,

> immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

astrological

> teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure

> and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his

> activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara,

> Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> planning the activities.

>

> By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

of

> people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

doing

> great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

>

> I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

few

> paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

loot

> their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

that

> must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and

> not the fault of the subject itself.

>

> There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere

> and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a

> reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

and

> a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of

> Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

enthusiasts

> like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis.

I

> do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software

> for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

free.

> I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

>

> As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

skepticism.

> Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

When

> other respected people like you with great following denounce

astrology,

> it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

you

> have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

based

> on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

difficult

> for genuine people.

>

> Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

ancient

> rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to

> ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

good

> judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings

of

> rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

>

> Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

Jyotisha,

> I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and

> have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

you

> have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

Please

> keep up your great work.

>

> Sincere regards,

> P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

>

> 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> email: pvr

> Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> -------------------------------

> Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> <http://www..org/>

> -------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopi ji,

 

Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

 

-Regards

 

Rajarshi

 

 

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

names

> to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> wishing advise......

> gopi.

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

ego

> -

> >

> > //

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > //

> >

> > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

anything

> to

> > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

his

> > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Go through following -

> >

> > jyotisa/message/27

> > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

will

> be

> > great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > ---------

> >

> > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> >

> > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

for

> > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> superstition.

> > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

BBC

> > website:

> >

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> >

> > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> >

> > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

beliefs.

> > >

> > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > lines on

> > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

this

> > talk

> > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> says.

> > >

> > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

is

> > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

or

> > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> >

> > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> levels

> > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> >

> > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> you

> > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> There

> > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

or

> > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

so-called

> > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> liberated

> > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> >

> > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> actions

> > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

does

> > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

does

> > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

good

> > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> different

> > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

liberated

> > sage.

> >

> > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

liberated

> > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> hence

> > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> see

> > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> and

> > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

stay

> > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> the

> > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

and

> > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> and

> > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> the

> > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> >

> > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

non-dual

> > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

as

> a

> > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> only

> > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> >

> > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

deal

> > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> is

> > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> up

> > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> >

> > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

distinction

> > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

misfortune,

> > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> working

> > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> self-realization,

> > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> astrological

> > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

pleasure

> > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

his

> > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

Parasara,

> > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > planning the activities.

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> few

> > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> loot

> > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> that

> > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

and

> > not the fault of the subject itself.

> >

> > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

sincere

> > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

a

> > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> and

> > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

of

> > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> enthusiasts

> > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

maharshis.

> I

> > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

software

> > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> free.

> > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> >

> > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> skepticism.

> > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> When

> > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> astrology,

> > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> you

> > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> based

> > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> difficult

> > for genuine people.

> >

> > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> ancient

> > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

to

> > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> good

> > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

teachings

> of

> > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> >

> > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> Jyotisha,

> > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

and

> > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> you

> > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> Please

> > keep up your great work.

> >

> > Sincere regards,

> > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> >

> > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > email: pvr@

> > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > -------------------------------

> > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > <http://www..org/>

> > -------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajarshi ji,

there is a problem for me that i can not enjoy cartoons for sure!!!....

Love and regards,

gopi.

, " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from

time

> to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

>

> -Regards

>

> Rajarshi

>

>

> , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@

> wrote:

> >

> > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> names

> > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts

aswell!!Boy

> > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and

well

> > wishing advise......

> > gopi.

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> ego

> > -

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> anything

> > to

> > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> his

> > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Go through following -

> > >

> > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have

a

> > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have

a

> > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> will

> > be

> > > great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > ---------

> > >

> > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > >

> > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> for

> > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > superstition.

> > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to

denounce

> > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> BBC

> > > website:

> > >

> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > >

> > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given

below:

> > >

> > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> beliefs.

> > > >

> > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about

the

> > > lines on

> > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> this

> > > talk

> > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > says.

> > > >

> > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> is

> > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be

less

> or

> > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > >

> > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > levels

> > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > >

> > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman,

what

> > you

> > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > There

> > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> or

> > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> so-called

> > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A

deluded

> > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > liberated

> > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > >

> > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > actions

> > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> does

> > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> does

> > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> good

> > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > different

> > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> liberated

> > > sage.

> > >

> > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> liberated

> > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > hence

> > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person

cannot

> > see

> > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick

promotion

> > and

> > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> stay

> > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both

in

> > the

> > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> and

> > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates

him/her

> > and

> > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated

at

> > the

> > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > >

> > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> non-dual

> > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> as

> > a

> > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean

of

> > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught

not

> > only

> > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > >

> > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> deal

> > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because

there

> > is

> > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally,

mixing

> > up

> > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > >

> > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> distinction

> > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> misfortune,

> > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > working

> > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > self-realization,

> > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > astrological

> > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> pleasure

> > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> his

> > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> Parasara,

> > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > planning the activities.

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of

astrology

> > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize

a

> > few

> > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several

astrologers

> > loot

> > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism.

All

> > that

> > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> and

> > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > >

> > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> sincere

> > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I

am

> a

> > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an

IIT

> > and

> > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> of

> > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his

teachings

> > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > enthusiasts

> > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> maharshis.

> > I

> > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> software

> > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > free.

> > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > >

> > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > skepticism.

> > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with

astrology.

> > When

> > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > astrology,

> > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult.

If

> > you

> > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do

not

> > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > based

> > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > difficult

> > > for genuine people.

> > >

> > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > ancient

> > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything

related

> to

> > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > good

> > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> teachings

> > of

> > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > >

> > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > Jyotisha,

> > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> and

> > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the

work

> > you

> > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > Please

> > > keep up your great work.

> > >

> > > Sincere regards,

> > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > >

> > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > email: pvr@

> > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > -------------------------------

> > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > <http://www..org/>

> > > -------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopi ji,

 

Correct. Agree with you. All cartoons become extremely irritating beyond a

point. I wish there was some method to instill some 'aritificial intelligence'

into their brains and make them realize how asinine they sound and behave.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/4/10, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

 

 

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

Re: PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked At Swami

Ramdeva

 

Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 4:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajarshi ji,

there is a problem for me that i can not enjoy cartoons for sure!!!....

Love and regards,

gopi.

, " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from

time

> to time to keep us entertained- . Hope you get the drift-

>

> -Regards

>

> Rajarshi

>

>

> , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@

> wrote:

> >

> > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> names

> > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts

aswell!!Boy

> > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and

well

> > wishing advise......

> > gopi.

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> ego

> > -

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> anything

> > to

> > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> his

> > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Go through following -

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27

> > > <http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27>

> > > Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have

a

> > > direct/indirect access to ------------ --------- -Forwarded

> > > ------------ --------- --------- - Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have

a

> > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> will

> > be

> > > great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > ------------ --------- Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

> > >

> > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > >

> > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> for

> > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > superstition.

> > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to

denounce

> > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> BBC

> > > website:

> > >

> > > http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm

> > > <http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm>

> > >

> > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given

below:

> > >

> > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> beliefs.

> > > >

> > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about

the

> > > lines on

> > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> this

> > > talk

> > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > says.

> > > >

> > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> is

> > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be

less

> or

> > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > >

> > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > levels

> > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > >

> > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman,

what

> > you

> > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > There

> > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> or

> > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> so-called

> > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A

deluded

> > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > liberated

> > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > >

> > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > actions

> > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> does

> > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> does

> > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> good

> > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > different

> > > manifestations/ extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> liberated

> > > sage.

> > >

> > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> liberated

> > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > hence

> > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person

cannot

> > see

> > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick

promotion

> > and

> > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> stay

> > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both

in

> > the

> > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> and

> > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates

him/her

> > and

> > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated

at

> > the

> > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > >

> > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> non-dual

> > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> as

> > a

> > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean

of

> > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught

not

> > only

> > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > >

> > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> deal

> > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because

there

> > is

> > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally,

mixing

> > up

> > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > >

> > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> distinction

> > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> misfortune,

> > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > working

> > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > self-realization,

> > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > astrological

> > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> pleasure

> > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> his

> > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> Parasara,

> > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > planning the activities.

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of

astrology

> > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize

a

> > few

> > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several

astrologers

> > loot

> > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism.

All

> > that

> > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> and

> > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > >

> > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> sincere

> > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I

am

> a

> > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an

IIT

> > and

> > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> of

> > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his

teachings

> > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > enthusiasts

> > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> maharshis.

> > I

> > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> software

> > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > free.

> > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > >

> > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > skepticism.

> > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with

astrology.

> > When

> > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > astrology,

> > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult.

If

> > you

> > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do

not

> > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > based

> > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > difficult

> > > for genuine people.

> > >

> > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > ancient

> > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything

related

> to

> > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > good

> > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> teachings

> > of

> > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > >

> > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > Jyotisha,

> > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> and

> > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the

work

> > you

> > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > Please

> > > keep up your great work.

> > >

> > > Sincere regards,

> > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > >

> > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > email: pvr@

> > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer .org <http://www.VedicAst rologer.org>

> > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/ homam>

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > > <http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net/>

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > > <http://www.srijagan nath.org/>

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Narsimha had written in this post of his wisdom that people should pass it to

world over, and this is posted to this group, who has issues , read carefully.

 

Obvious for all defective pieces to get togather but even 100s of faulty pieces

can never be equal to a right non defective piece...

 

Group has seen 3 cartoons today supporting each others faults ... Great Fun !!!

 

You must have complain with god also?

 

 

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken names

> to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> wishing advise......

> gopi.

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego

> -

> >

> > //

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > //

> >

> > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything

> to

> > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his

> > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Go through following -

> >

> > jyotisa/message/27

> > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will

> be

> > great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > ---------

> >

> > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> >

> > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for

> > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> superstition.

> > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC

> > website:

> >

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> >

> > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> >

> > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs.

> > >

> > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > lines on

> > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this

> > talk

> > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> says.

> > >

> > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is

> > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or

> > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> >

> > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> levels

> > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> >

> > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> you

> > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> There

> > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or

> > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called

> > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> liberated

> > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> >

> > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> actions

> > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does

> > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham " does

> > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good

> > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> different

> > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated

> > sage.

> >

> > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated

> > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> hence

> > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> see

> > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> and

> > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay

> > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> the

> > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and

> > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> and

> > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> the

> > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> >

> > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual

> > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as

> a

> > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> only

> > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> >

> > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal

> > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> is

> > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> up

> > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> >

> > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction

> > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune,

> > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> working

> > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> self-realization,

> > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> astrological

> > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure

> > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his

> > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara,

> > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > planning the activities.

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> few

> > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> loot

> > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> that

> > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and

> > not the fault of the subject itself.

> >

> > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere

> > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a

> > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> and

> > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of

> > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> enthusiasts

> > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis.

> I

> > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software

> > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> free.

> > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> >

> > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> skepticism.

> > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> When

> > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> astrology,

> > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> you

> > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> based

> > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> difficult

> > for genuine people.

> >

> > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> ancient

> > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to

> > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> good

> > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings

> of

> > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> >

> > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> Jyotisha,

> > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and

> > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> you

> > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> Please

> > keep up your great work.

> >

> > Sincere regards,

> > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> >

> > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > email: pvr@

> > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > -------------------------------

> > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > <http://www..org/>

> > -------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I see nothing wrong in what Narasimha has written. Rather, it shows his

commitment to the divine science he practices. It needs appreciation.

To comment on a subject you should have at least some basic knowledge of it

and its philosophy. Then, how one can dismiss one stream of teachings of

same Rishis while ardently following the others.

 

Praveen Kumar

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

> wrote:

 

>

>

>

> You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego -

>

> //

>

> By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

> people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

> great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

>

> //

>

> Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything to

> any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his

> faulty line of vedic astrology.

>

> Go through following -

>

> jyotisa/message/27

> <jyotisa/message/27>

> Namaste friends,

>

> This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

>

> This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will be

> great!

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> ---------

>

> Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

>

> I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for

> the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against superstition.

> But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC

> website:

>

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

>

> The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

>

> > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs.

> >

> > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> lines on

> > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this

> talk

> > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he says.

> >

> > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is

> > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or

> > more auspicious? " he asks. "

>

> I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different levels

> of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

>

> For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what you

> said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space. There

> is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or

> Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called

> auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a liberated

> sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

>

> If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and actions

> started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does

> not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham " does

> not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good

> and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply different

> manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated

> sage.

>

> However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated

> sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and hence

> stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot see

> good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion and

> joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay

> without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in the

> same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and

> (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her and

> the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at the

> (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

>

> The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual

> vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as a

> delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not only

> the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

>

> When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal

> with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there is

> God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing up

> different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

>

> Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction

> between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune,

> life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the working

> of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without self-realization,

> immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the astrological

> teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure

> and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his

> activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara,

> Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> planning the activities.

>

> By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

> people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

> great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

>

> I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a few

> paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers loot

> their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All that

> must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and

> not the fault of the subject itself.

>

> There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere

> and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a

> reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT and

> a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of

> Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology enthusiasts

> like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis. I

> do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software

> for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also free.

> I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

>

> As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and skepticism.

> Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology. When

> other respected people like you with great following denounce astrology,

> it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If you

> have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments based

> on false logic and make things that are already difficult more difficult

> for genuine people.

>

> Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of ancient

> rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to

> ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with good

> judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings of

> rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

>

> Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on Jyotisha,

> I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and

> have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work you

> have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda. Please

> keep up your great work.

>

> Sincere regards,

> P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

>

> 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> email: pvr <pvr%40charter.net>

> Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> -------------------------

> Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> <http://www..org/>

> -------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajarshi,

 

This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda what he

would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his youthful

exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will ignore them

thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant walks " .

 

Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is right, but

there is no need to think in those terms!!!

 

Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it. Ignore

impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth it. But,

expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's spiritual energy.

We need to keep control over the mind and conserve spiritual energy..

 

My 2 cents..

 

Thanks,

Narasimha

 

, " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14 wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

> to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

>

> -Regards

>

> Rajarshi

>

>

> , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> names

> > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> > wishing advise......

> > gopi.

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> ego

> > -

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> anything

> > to

> > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> his

> > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Go through following -

> > >

> > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> will

> > be

> > > great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > ---------

> > >

> > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > >

> > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> for

> > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > superstition.

> > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> BBC

> > > website:

> > >

> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > >

> > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> > >

> > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> beliefs.

> > > >

> > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > > lines on

> > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> this

> > > talk

> > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > says.

> > > >

> > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> is

> > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

> or

> > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > >

> > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > levels

> > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > >

> > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> > you

> > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > There

> > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> or

> > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> so-called

> > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > liberated

> > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > >

> > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > actions

> > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> does

> > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> does

> > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> good

> > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > different

> > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> liberated

> > > sage.

> > >

> > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> liberated

> > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > hence

> > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> > see

> > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> > and

> > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> stay

> > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> > the

> > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> and

> > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> > and

> > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> > the

> > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > >

> > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> non-dual

> > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> as

> > a

> > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> > only

> > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > >

> > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> deal

> > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> > is

> > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> > up

> > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > >

> > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> distinction

> > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> misfortune,

> > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > working

> > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > self-realization,

> > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > astrological

> > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> pleasure

> > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> his

> > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> Parasara,

> > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > planning the activities.

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> > few

> > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> > loot

> > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> > that

> > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> and

> > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > >

> > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> sincere

> > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

> a

> > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> > and

> > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> of

> > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > enthusiasts

> > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> maharshis.

> > I

> > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> software

> > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > free.

> > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > >

> > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > skepticism.

> > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> > When

> > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > astrology,

> > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> > you

> > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > based

> > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > difficult

> > > for genuine people.

> > >

> > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > ancient

> > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

> to

> > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > good

> > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> teachings

> > of

> > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > >

> > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > Jyotisha,

> > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> and

> > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> > you

> > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > Please

> > > keep up your great work.

> > >

> > > Sincere regards,

> > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > >

> > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > email: pvr@

> > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > -------------------------------

> > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > <http://www..org/>

> > > -------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Narasimha,

 

Two cents made out of PURE GOLD! :-)

 

Pure Gold is very soft and very malleable and yet an excellent conductor of

energy but yet extremely resistant to degradation and chemical attacks!

 

Thanks for sharing such beautiful words!

 

Kind Regards,

 

Ranjan

 

, " pvr108 " <pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Rajarshi,

>

> This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda what he

would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his youthful

exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will ignore them

thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant walks " .

>

> Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is right, but

there is no need to think in those terms!!!

>

> Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it. Ignore

impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth it. But,

expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's spiritual energy.

We need to keep control over the mind and conserve spiritual energy..

>

> My 2 cents..

>

> Thanks,

> Narasimha

>

> , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> >

> > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

> > to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

> >

> > -Regards

> >

> > Rajarshi

> >

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > names

> > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> > > wishing advise......

> > > gopi.

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> > ego

> > > -

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > anything

> > > to

> > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> > his

> > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Go through following -

> > > >

> > > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > will

> > > be

> > > > great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > ---------

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > >

> > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> > for

> > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > superstition.

> > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> > BBC

> > > > website:

> > > >

> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > > >

> > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> > > >

> > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > beliefs.

> > > > >

> > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > > > lines on

> > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > this

> > > > talk

> > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > > says.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> > is

> > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

> > or

> > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > >

> > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > > levels

> > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > >

> > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> > > you

> > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > > There

> > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> > or

> > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > so-called

> > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > liberated

> > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > >

> > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > actions

> > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > does

> > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> > does

> > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> > good

> > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > different

> > > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage.

> > > >

> > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > > hence

> > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> > > see

> > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> > > and

> > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> > stay

> > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> > > the

> > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> > and

> > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> > > and

> > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> > > the

> > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > >

> > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > non-dual

> > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> > as

> > > a

> > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> > > only

> > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > >

> > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> > deal

> > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> > > is

> > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> > > up

> > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > >

> > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > distinction

> > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > misfortune,

> > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > working

> > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > self-realization,

> > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > astrological

> > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > pleasure

> > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> > his

> > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > Parasara,

> > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > planning the activities.

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> > > few

> > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> > > loot

> > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> > > that

> > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> > and

> > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > >

> > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > sincere

> > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

> > a

> > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> > > and

> > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> > of

> > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > enthusiasts

> > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > maharshis.

> > > I

> > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > software

> > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > > free.

> > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > >

> > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > skepticism.

> > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> > > When

> > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > astrology,

> > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> > > you

> > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > > based

> > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > difficult

> > > > for genuine people.

> > > >

> > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > ancient

> > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

> > to

> > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > > good

> > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > teachings

> > > of

> > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > Jyotisha,

> > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> > and

> > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> > > you

> > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > Please

> > > > keep up your great work.

> > > >

> > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > >

> > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > email: pvr@

> > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > > <http://www..org/>

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear shri Narsimhaji and shri Ranjanji,

I have my respects for both you gentlemen. Thus I have ventured to ask this

question,which I reserve only to a few. I have also liked the way shri

Narsimhaji puts it as follows,

<They taught not only the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a

lower intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!>

 

My belief is that the theories put forward by the sages to help the lower

intellectuals could be well inteneded and also formulated. But there seems to be

one serious question pending, concerning the effects of the planets involved in

our astrology. Do the other planets excepting the sun and the moon (including

Rahu and Ketu which result from them) really have any appreciable effect on the

creatures of earth? If there is any such effect why has science not been able to

detect it so far when our radiology and radio telescopes have developed so much?

This is a field which sincere astrologers should seriously consider and do more

research on the matter.I have my belief that the effects of planets like Mangal,

Budha, Brihaspati, Sukra and Sani are mis-represented. For example the effects

of the magenetic field of the earth on the red cells (Haemoglobin) of our blood

has been termed as the effect of mangal by the sages but has been mis

represented as the remote red looking planet in the sky by the astrologers.Thess

things, I feel, should be seriously re-evaluated in our astrology iwth the helop

of scientific theories. Such researches will put our astrology on sounder

footings.

thank you,

Regrds,

Hari Malla

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Narasimha,

>

> Two cents made out of PURE GOLD! :-)

>

> Pure Gold is very soft and very malleable and yet an excellent conductor of

energy but yet extremely resistant to degradation and chemical attacks!

>

> Thanks for sharing such beautiful words!

>

> Kind Regards,

>

> Ranjan

>

> , " pvr108 " <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajarshi,

> >

> > This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda what

he would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his youthful

exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will ignore them

thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant walks " .

> >

> > Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is right, but

there is no need to think in those terms!!!

> >

> > Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it.

Ignore impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth it. But,

expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's spiritual energy.

We need to keep control over the mind and conserve spiritual energy..

> >

> > My 2 cents..

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi ji,

> > >

> > > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

> > > to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

> > >

> > > -Regards

> > >

> > > Rajarshi

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > > names

> > > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> > > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> > > > wishing advise......

> > > > gopi.

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> > > ego

> > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > > //

> > > > >

> > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > > of

> > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > > doing

> > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > >

> > > > > //

> > > > >

> > > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > > anything

> > > > to

> > > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> > > his

> > > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Go through following -

> > > > >

> > > > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > great!

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > > ---------

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > > >

> > > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> > > for

> > > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > > superstition.

> > > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> > > BBC

> > > > > website:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > > > >

> > > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> > > > >

> > > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > > beliefs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > > > > lines on

> > > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > > this

> > > > > talk

> > > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > > > says.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> > > is

> > > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

> > > or

> > > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > > >

> > > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > > > levels

> > > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > > >

> > > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> > > > you

> > > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > > > There

> > > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> > > or

> > > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > > so-called

> > > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > > liberated

> > > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > > >

> > > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > > actions

> > > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > > does

> > > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> > > does

> > > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> > > good

> > > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > > different

> > > > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > > liberated

> > > > > sage.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > > liberated

> > > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > > > hence

> > > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> > > > see

> > > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> > > > and

> > > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> > > stay

> > > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> > > > the

> > > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> > > and

> > > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> > > > and

> > > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> > > > the

> > > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > > >

> > > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > > non-dual

> > > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> > > > only

> > > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > > >

> > > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> > > deal

> > > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> > > > is

> > > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> > > > up

> > > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > > distinction

> > > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > > misfortune,

> > > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > > working

> > > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > > self-realization,

> > > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > > astrological

> > > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > > pleasure

> > > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> > > his

> > > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > > Parasara,

> > > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > > planning the activities.

> > > > >

> > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > > of

> > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > > doing

> > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> > > > few

> > > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> > > > loot

> > > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> > > > that

> > > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> > > and

> > > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > > sincere

> > > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

> > > a

> > > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> > > > and

> > > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> > > of

> > > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > > enthusiasts

> > > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > > maharshis.

> > > > I

> > > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > > software

> > > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > > > free.

> > > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > > >

> > > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > > skepticism.

> > > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> > > > When

> > > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > > astrology,

> > > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> > > > you

> > > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > > > based

> > > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > > difficult

> > > > > for genuine people.

> > > > >

> > > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > > ancient

> > > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

> > > to

> > > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > > > good

> > > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > > teachings

> > > > of

> > > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > > Jyotisha,

> > > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> > > and

> > > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> > > > you

> > > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > > Please

> > > > > keep up your great work.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > > >

> > > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > > email: pvr@

> > > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > > -------------------------------

> > > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > > > <http://www..org/>

> > > > > -------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha ji,

Namasthe.Thanks for the post.I got the message.(though it is not

addressed to me)

Love and regards,

gopi.

 

, " pvr108 " <pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Rajarshi,

>

> This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda

what he would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his

youthful exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will

ignore them thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant

walks " .

>

> Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is

right, but there is no need to think in those terms!!!

>

> Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it.

Ignore impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth

it. But, expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's

spiritual energy. We need to keep control over the mind and conserve

spiritual energy..

>

> My 2 cents..

>

> Thanks,

> Narasimha

>

> , " rajarshi14 " rajarshi14@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> >

> > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from

time

> > to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

> >

> > -Regards

> >

> > Rajarshi

> >

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > names

> > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts

aswell!!Boy

> > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and

well

> > > wishing advise......

> > > gopi.

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his

mounted

> > ego

> > > -

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > anything

> > > to

> > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself

and

> > his

> > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Go through following -

> > > >

> > > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

have a

> > > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

have a

> > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > will

> > > be

> > > > great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > ---------

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > >

> > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu

sages

> > for

> > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > superstition.

> > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to

denounce

> > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on

the

> > BBC

> > > > website:

> > > >

> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > > >

> > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given

below:

> > > >

> > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > beliefs.

> > > > >

> > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about

the

> > > > lines on

> > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > this

> > > > talk

> > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, "

he

> > > says.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there?

He

> > is

> > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be

less

> > or

> > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > >

> > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at

different

> > > levels

> > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > >

> > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman,

what

> > > you

> > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and

space.

> > > There

> > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or

Sadashiva

> > or

> > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > so-called

> > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A

deluded

> > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > liberated

> > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > >

> > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > actions

> > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > does

> > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga

Vaasishtham "

> > does

> > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and

pain,

> > good

> > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > different

> > > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage.

> > > >

> > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized

and

> > > hence

> > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person

cannot

> > > see

> > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick

promotion

> > > and

> > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job

and

> > stay

> > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at

both in

> > > the

> > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called)

fortune

> > and

> > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To

a

> > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates

him/her

> > > and

> > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither

elated at

> > > the

> > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > >

> > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > non-dual

> > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world

appearance

> > as

> > > a

> > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the

ocean of

> > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught

not

> > > only

> > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > >

> > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology

that

> > deal

> > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because

there

> > > is

> > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally,

mixing

> > > up

> > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > >

> > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > distinction

> > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > misfortune,

> > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > working

> > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality

are

> > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > self-realization,

> > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > astrological

> > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > pleasure

> > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can

plan

> > his

> > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > Parasara,

> > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > planning the activities.

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of

astrology

> > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can

memorize a

> > > few

> > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several

astrologers

> > > loot

> > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism.

All

> > > that

> > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some

astrologers

> > and

> > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > >

> > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > sincere

> > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis.

I am

> > a

> > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an

IIT

> > > and

> > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the

teachings

> > of

> > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his

teachings

> > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > enthusiasts

> > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > maharshis.

> > > I

> > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > software

> > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are

also

> > > free.

> > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > >

> > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > skepticism.

> > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with

astrology.

> > > When

> > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > astrology,

> > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult.

If

> > > you

> > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do

not

> > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading

comments

> > > based

> > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > difficult

> > > > for genuine people.

> > > >

> > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > ancient

> > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything

related

> > to

> > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position

with

> > > good

> > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > teachings

> > > of

> > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > Jyotisha,

> > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a

yogi

> > and

> > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the

work

> > > you

> > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > Please

> > > > keep up your great work.

> > > >

> > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > >

> > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > email: pvr@

> > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > > <http://www..org/>

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Basically, there are three 'points of departure' wherefrom one jumps off the

curve of continuity of experiencing!

 

Physical, Mental and Spiritual! <I used & and not OR! Please note!!)

 

What you posed as questions and 'potential research projects' are in the

physical domain and best served by Science! That does not need confirmation

elsewhere!

 

The remaining two? That is where we must focus upon when we wear the hat of

Jyotishi etc...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " hari " <harimalla wrote:

>

> Dear shri Narsimhaji and shri Ranjanji,

> I have my respects for both you gentlemen. Thus I have ventured to ask this

question,which I reserve only to a few. I have also liked the way shri

Narsimhaji puts it as follows,

> <They taught not only the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a

lower intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!>

>

> My belief is that the theories put forward by the sages to help the lower

intellectuals could be well inteneded and also formulated. But there seems to be

one serious question pending, concerning the effects of the planets involved in

our astrology. Do the other planets excepting the sun and the moon (including

Rahu and Ketu which result from them) really have any appreciable effect on the

creatures of earth? If there is any such effect why has science not been able to

detect it so far when our radiology and radio telescopes have developed so much?

This is a field which sincere astrologers should seriously consider and do more

research on the matter.I have my belief that the effects of planets like Mangal,

Budha, Brihaspati, Sukra and Sani are mis-represented. For example the effects

of the magenetic field of the earth on the red cells (Haemoglobin) of our blood

has been termed as the effect of mangal by the sages but has been mis

represented as the remote red looking planet in the sky by the astrologers.Thess

things, I feel, should be seriously re-evaluated in our astrology iwth the helop

of scientific theories. Such researches will put our astrology on sounder

footings.

> thank you,

> Regrds,

> Hari Malla

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Narasimha,

> >

> > Two cents made out of PURE GOLD! :-)

> >

> > Pure Gold is very soft and very malleable and yet an excellent conductor of

energy but yet extremely resistant to degradation and chemical attacks!

> >

> > Thanks for sharing such beautiful words!

> >

> > Kind Regards,

> >

> > Ranjan

> >

> > , " pvr108 " <pvr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajarshi,

> > >

> > > This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda

what he would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his youthful

exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will ignore them

thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant walks " .

> > >

> > > Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is right,

but there is no need to think in those terms!!!

> > >

> > > Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it.

Ignore impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth it. But,

expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's spiritual energy.

We need to keep control over the mind and conserve spiritual energy..

> > >

> > > My 2 cents..

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

> > > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi ji,

> > > >

> > > > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

> > > > to time to keep us entertained-. Hope you get the drift-

> > > >

> > > > -Regards

> > > >

> > > > Rajarshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > > > names

> > > > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> > > > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> > > > > wishing advise......

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> > > > ego

> > > > > -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > > > of

> > > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > > > doing

> > > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > > > anything

> > > > > to

> > > > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> > > > his

> > > > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Go through following -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jyotisa/message/27

> > > > > > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > > > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > > > > > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > great!

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > > > ---------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> > > > for

> > > > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > > > superstition.

> > > > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > > > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> > > > BBC

> > > > > > website:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > > > beliefs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > > > > > lines on

> > > > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > > > this

> > > > > > talk

> > > > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > > > > says.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> > > > is

> > > > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

> > > > or

> > > > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > > > > levels

> > > > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> > > > > you

> > > > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> > > > or

> > > > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > > > so-called

> > > > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > > > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > > > liberated

> > > > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > > > actions

> > > > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > > > does

> > > > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> > > > does

> > > > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> > > > good

> > > > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > > > different

> > > > > > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > > > liberated

> > > > > > sage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > > > liberated

> > > > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > > > > hence

> > > > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> > > > > see

> > > > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> > > > > and

> > > > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> > > > stay

> > > > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> > > > and

> > > > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> > > > > the

> > > > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > > > non-dual

> > > > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > > > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> > > > > only

> > > > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> > > > deal

> > > > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> > > > > is

> > > > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> > > > > up

> > > > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > > > distinction

> > > > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > > > misfortune,

> > > > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > > > working

> > > > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > > > self-realization,

> > > > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > > > astrological

> > > > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > > > pleasure

> > > > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> > > > his

> > > > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > > > Parasara,

> > > > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > > > planning the activities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > > > > of

> > > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > > > > doing

> > > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > > > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> > > > > few

> > > > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> > > > > loot

> > > > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> > > > > that

> > > > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> > > > and

> > > > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > > > sincere

> > > > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

> > > > a

> > > > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> > > > > and

> > > > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> > > > of

> > > > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > > > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > > > enthusiasts

> > > > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > > > maharshis.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > > > software

> > > > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > > > > free.

> > > > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > > > skepticism.

> > > > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> > > > > When

> > > > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > > > astrology,

> > > > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> > > > > you

> > > > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > > > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > > > difficult

> > > > > > for genuine people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > > > ancient

> > > > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

> > > > to

> > > > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > > > > good

> > > > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > > > teachings

> > > > > of

> > > > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > > > Jyotisha,

> > > > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> > > > and

> > > > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> > > > > you

> > > > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > > > Please

> > > > > > keep up your great work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > > > email: pvr@

> > > > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

> > > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > > > -------------------------------

> > > > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam>

> > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/>

> > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > > > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/>

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > > > > <http://www..org/>

> > > > > > -------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajarshi ji,

so called artificial inteligence is for humans i believe but not

4cartoons!!!...

Love and regards,

gopi.

, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14

wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

> Â

> Correct. Agree with you. All cartoons become extremely irritating

beyond a point. I wish there was some method to instill some

'aritificial intelligence' into their brains and make them realize how

asinine they sound and behave.

> Â

> -Regards

> Â Rajarshi

> Â

>

>

>

> --- On Thu, 1/4/10, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote:

>

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927

> Re: PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked

At Swami Ramdeva

>

> Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 4:35 PM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

> Dear Rajarshi ji,

> there is a problem for me that i can not enjoy cartoons for

sure!!!....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> >

> > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from

> time

> > to time to keep us entertained- . Hope you get the drift-

> >

> > -Regards

> >

> > Rajarshi

> >

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > names

> > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts

> aswell!!Boy

> > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and

> well

> > > wishing advise......

> > > gopi.

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his

mounted

> > ego

> > > -

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

> levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

> to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > anything

> > > to

> > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself

and

> > his

> > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Go through following -

> > > >

> > > > http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27

> > > > <http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27>

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

have

> a

> > > > direct/indirect access to ------------ --------- -Forwarded

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- - Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

on

> > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

have

> a

> > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > will

> > > be

> > > > great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > ------------ --------- Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > >

> > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu

sages

> > for

> > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > superstition.

> > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to

> denounce

> > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on

the

> > BBC

> > > > website:

> > > >

> > > > http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm

> > > > <http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm>

> > > >

> > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given

> below:

> > > >

> > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > beliefs.

> > > > >

> > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about

> the

> > > > lines on

> > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > this

> > > > talk

> > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, "

he

> > > says.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there?

He

> > is

> > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be

> less

> > or

> > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > >

> > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at

different

> > > levels

> > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > >

> > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman,

> what

> > > you

> > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and

space.

> > > There

> > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or

Sadashiva

> > or

> > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > so-called

> > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A

> deluded

> > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > liberated

> > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > >

> > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > actions

> > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > does

> > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga

Vaasishtham "

> > does

> > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and

pain,

> > good

> > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > different

> > > > manifestations/ extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage.

> > > >

> > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > liberated

> > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized

and

> > > hence

> > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person

> cannot

> > > see

> > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick

> promotion

> > > and

> > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job

and

> > stay

> > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at

both

> in

> > > the

> > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called)

fortune

> > and

> > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To

a

> > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates

> him/her

> > > and

> > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither

elated

> at

> > > the

> > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > >

> > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > non-dual

> > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world

appearance

> > as

> > > a

> > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the

ocean

> of

> > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught

> not

> > > only

> > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > >

> > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology

that

> > deal

> > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because

> there

> > > is

> > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally,

> mixing

> > > up

> > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > >

> > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > distinction

> > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > misfortune,

> > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > working

> > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality

are

> > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > self-realization,

> > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > astrological

> > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > pleasure

> > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can

plan

> > his

> > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > Parasara,

> > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > planning the activities.

> > > >

> > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

> levels

> > > of

> > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

are

> > > doing

> > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

> to

> > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of

> astrology

> > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can

memorize

> a

> > > few

> > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several

> astrologers

> > > loot

> > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism.

> All

> > > that

> > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some

astrologers

> > and

> > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > >

> > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > sincere

> > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis.

I

> am

> > a

> > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an

> IIT

> > > and

> > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the

teachings

> > of

> > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his

> teachings

> > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > enthusiasts

> > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > maharshis.

> > > I

> > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > software

> > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are

also

> > > free.

> > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > >

> > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > skepticism.

> > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with

> astrology.

> > > When

> > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > astrology,

> > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult.

> If

> > > you

> > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do

> not

> > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading

comments

> > > based

> > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > difficult

> > > > for genuine people.

> > > >

> > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > ancient

> > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything

> related

> > to

> > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position

with

> > > good

> > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > teachings

> > > of

> > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > Jyotisha,

> > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a

yogi

> > and

> > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the

> work

> > > you

> > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > Please

> > > > keep up your great work.

> > > >

> > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > >

> > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > email: pvr@

> > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer .org <http://www.VedicAst rologer.org>

> > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/ homam>

> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > > > <http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net/>

> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > > > <http://www.srijagan nath.org/>

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Gopi jee!

 

Thanks for correcting the typo!

" aritificial " ;-)

 

 

 

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> Dear Rajarshi ji,

> so called artificial inteligence is for humans i believe but not

> 4cartoons!!!...

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> > Â

> > Correct. Agree with you. All cartoons become extremely irritating

> beyond a point. I wish there was some method to instill some

> 'aritificial intelligence' into their brains and make them realize how

> asinine they sound and behave.

> > Â

> > -Regards

> > Â Rajarshi

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Thu, 1/4/10, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > Re: PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked

> At Swami Ramdeva

> >

> > Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 4:35 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajarshi ji,

> > there is a problem for me that i can not enjoy cartoons for

> sure!!!....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi ji,

> > >

> > > Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from

> > time

> > > to time to keep us entertained- . Hope you get the drift-

> > >

> > > -Regards

> > >

> > > Rajarshi

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> > > names

> > > > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts

> > aswell!!Boy

> > > > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and

> > well

> > > > wishing advise......

> > > > gopi.

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his

> mounted

> > > ego

> > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > > //

> > > > >

> > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

> > levels

> > > > of

> > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

> are

> > > > doing

> > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

> > to

> > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > >

> > > > > //

> > > > >

> > > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> > > anything

> > > > to

> > > > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself

> and

> > > his

> > > > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Go through following -

> > > > >

> > > > > http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27

> > > > > <http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27>

> > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

> on

> > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

> have

> > a

> > > > > direct/indirect access to ------------ --------- -Forwarded

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments

> on

> > > > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you

> have

> > a

> > > > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > great!

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > ------------ --------- Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > > > >

> > > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu

> sages

> > > for

> > > > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > > > superstition.

> > > > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to

> > denounce

> > > > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on

> the

> > > BBC

> > > > > website:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm

> > > > > <http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm>

> > > > >

> > > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given

> > below:

> > > > >

> > > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> > > beliefs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about

> > the

> > > > > lines on

> > > > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> > > this

> > > > > talk

> > > > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, "

> he

> > > > says.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there?

> He

> > > is

> > > > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be

> > less

> > > or

> > > > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > > > >

> > > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at

> different

> > > > levels

> > > > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > > > >

> > > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman,

> > what

> > > > you

> > > > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and

> space.

> > > > There

> > > > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or

> Sadashiva

> > > or

> > > > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> > > so-called

> > > > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A

> > deluded

> > > > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > > > liberated

> > > > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > > > >

> > > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > > > actions

> > > > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> > > does

> > > > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga

> Vaasishtham "

> > > does

> > > > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and

> pain,

> > > good

> > > > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > > > different

> > > > > manifestations/ extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> > > liberated

> > > > > sage.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> > > liberated

> > > > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized

> and

> > > > hence

> > > > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person

> > cannot

> > > > see

> > > > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick

> > promotion

> > > > and

> > > > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job

> and

> > > stay

> > > > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at

> both

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called)

> fortune

> > > and

> > > > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To

> a

> > > > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates

> > him/her

> > > > and

> > > > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither

> elated

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > > > >

> > > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> > > non-dual

> > > > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world

> appearance

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the

> ocean

> > of

> > > > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught

> > not

> > > > only

> > > > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > > > >

> > > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology

> that

> > > deal

> > > > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because

> > there

> > > > is

> > > > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally,

> > mixing

> > > > up

> > > > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> > > distinction

> > > > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> > > misfortune,

> > > > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > > > working

> > > > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality

> are

> > > > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > > > self-realization,

> > > > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > > > astrological

> > > > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> > > pleasure

> > > > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can

> plan

> > > his

> > > > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> > > Parasara,

> > > > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > > > planning the activities.

> > > > >

> > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different

> > levels

> > > > of

> > > > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you

> are

> > > > doing

> > > > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves

> > to

> > > > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of

> > astrology

> > > > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can

> memorize

> > a

> > > > few

> > > > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several

> > astrologers

> > > > loot

> > > > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism.

> > All

> > > > that

> > > > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some

> astrologers

> > > and

> > > > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> > > sincere

> > > > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis.

> I

> > am

> > > a

> > > > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an

> > IIT

> > > > and

> > > > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the

> teachings

> > > of

> > > > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his

> > teachings

> > > > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > > > enthusiasts

> > > > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> > > maharshis.

> > > > I

> > > > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> > > software

> > > > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are

> also

> > > > free.

> > > > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > > > >

> > > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > > > skepticism.

> > > > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with

> > astrology.

> > > > When

> > > > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > > > astrology,

> > > > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult.

> > If

> > > > you

> > > > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do

> > not

> > > > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading

> comments

> > > > based

> > > > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > > > difficult

> > > > > for genuine people.

> > > > >

> > > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > > > ancient

> > > > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything

> > related

> > > to

> > > > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position

> with

> > > > good

> > > > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> > > teachings

> > > > of

> > > > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > > > Jyotisha,

> > > > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a

> yogi

> > > and

> > > > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the

> > work

> > > > you

> > > > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > > > Please

> > > > > keep up your great work.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincere regards,

> > > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > > > >

> > > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > > > email: pvr@

> > > > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer .org <http://www.VedicAst rologer.org>

> > > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/ homam>

> > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > > > > <http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net/>

> > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > > > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/>

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > > > > <http://www.srijagan nath.org/>

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

 

Makes sense.

 

 

@Others,

 

That mail to Ramdev was written when Ramdev made some derogatory comments about

jyotish in an interview with BBC. So I guess the people who find the mail

offensive, agree with Ramdev's comments? In that case, what are they doing in

jyotish forums? Weird!

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

 

" Between me and You, there is only me.

Take away the me, so only You remain " - Hallaj

 

--- On Fri, 2/4/10, pvr108 <pvr wrote:

 

 

pvr108 <pvr

Re: PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked At Swami

Ramdeva

 

Friday, 2 April, 2010, 4:22 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajarshi,

 

This is a private mail. Many years back, Ramakrishna asked Vivekananda what he

would do if some ignorant people were harassing him. With his youthful

exuberance, Swamiji (then just a young Narendra) said, " I will ignore them

thinking that dogs bark at an elephant when the elephant walks " .

 

Ramakrishna told him that was not the right attitude. Ignoring is right, but

there is no need to think in those terms!!!

 

Fight impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is worth it. Ignore

impassionately when your judgment is that the fight is not worth it. But,

expressing emotions like ridicule and anger only wastes one's spiritual energy.

We need to keep control over the mind and conserve spiritual energy..

 

My 2 cents..

 

Thanks,

Narasimha

 

, " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> Don't worry, just relax and enjoy. We all need some cartoons from time

> to time to keep us entertained- . Hope you get the drift-

>

> -Regards

>

> Rajarshi

>

>

> , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I dont know by what name i should address!!You have already taken

> names

> > to belittle others now you started discussing their charts aswell!!Boy

> > oh boy 1st look at yourself through your chart is my sincere and well

> > wishing advise......

> > gopi.

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted

> ego

> > -

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > //

> > >

> > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak

> anything

> > to

> > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and

> his

> > > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Go through following -

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27

> > > <http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27>

> > > Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > direct/indirect access to ------------ --------- -Forwarded

> > > ------------ --------- --------- - Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that

> will

> > be

> > > great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > ------------ --------- Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

> > >

> > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> > >

> > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages

> for

> > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against

> > superstition.

> > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the

> BBC

> > > website:

> > >

> > > http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm

> > > <http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm>

> > >

> > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> > >

> > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive

> beliefs.

> > > >

> > > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > > lines on

> > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is

> this

> > > talk

> > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he

> > says.

> > > >

> > > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He

> is

> > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less

> or

> > > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> > >

> > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different

> > levels

> > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> > >

> > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what

> > you

> > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space.

> > There

> > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva

> or

> > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every

> so-called

> > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a

> > liberated

> > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> > >

> > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and

> > actions

> > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage

> does

> > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham "

> does

> > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain,

> good

> > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply

> > different

> > > manifestations/ extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a

> liberated

> > > sage.

> > >

> > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a

> liberated

> > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and

> > hence

> > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot

> > see

> > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion

> > and

> > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and

> stay

> > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in

> > the

> > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune

> and

> > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her

> > and

> > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at

> > the

> > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> > >

> > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate

> non-dual

> > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance

> as

> > a

> > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not

> > only

> > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> > >

> > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that

> deal

> > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there

> > is

> > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing

> > up

> > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> > >

> > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no

> distinction

> > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and

> misfortune,

> > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the

> > working

> > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without

> > self-realization,

> > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the

> > astrological

> > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see

> pleasure

> > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan

> his

> > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like

> Parasara,

> > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > > planning the activities.

> > >

> > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels

> > of

> > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are

> > doing

> > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> > >

> > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a

> > few

> > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers

> > loot

> > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All

> > that

> > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers

> and

> > > not the fault of the subject itself.

> > >

> > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a

> sincere

> > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am

> a

> > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT

> > and

> > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings

> of

> > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology

> > enthusiasts

> > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by

> maharshis.

> > I

> > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha

> software

> > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also

> > free.

> > > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> > >

> > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and

> > skepticism.

> > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology.

> > When

> > > other respected people like you with great following denounce

> > astrology,

> > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If

> > you

> > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments

> > based

> > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more

> > difficult

> > > for genuine people.

> > >

> > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of

> > ancient

> > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related

> to

> > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with

> > good

> > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some

> teachings

> > of

> > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> > >

> > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on

> > Jyotisha,

> > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi

> and

> > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work

> > you

> > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda.

> > Please

> > > keep up your great work.

> > >

> > > Sincere regards,

> > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> > >

> > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane

> > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA

> > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218

> > > email: pvr@

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