Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Self knowledge is the knowledge of the knower or seer. It is thus not the knowledge of the known or the seen but of the knower itself within ourselves. Thus it cannot be actually known by ourselves since nobody sees his or her own face, but only by the grace of God. , kanishk <kanishk.chakravarty wrote: > > Self knowledge is the knowledge of the Soul. > It is given in the bhagwat gita, and more in the upanishads. > Self knowledge is also known as brahma_gyan. > > regards, > kanishk. > > At 06:31 PM 3/31/2010, you wrote: > > > > > >What is Self-Knowledge?? and How can one attain this?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________\ ______ > > > > " The life of Saibaba is as wide and as deep as > >the infinite ocean;all can dive deep into it and > >take out precious gems of knowledge and devotion > >and cherish them to transform their lives. " --- Sri Sai Satcharitra > >_____________________________\ _______ > > > > > >--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: > > > >Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk > > Why Are We Not Omniscient Like Siva? > > > >Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:40 AM > > > > > > > >Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > >Deep in a pristine forest, worshipers perform > >puja to a Sivalinga, invoking Siva-Sakti who > >appear in a vision. Lord Siva, the architect of > >knowledge, hands in abhaya and varada mudras, > >expounds on the soul's three bonds: anava, karma and maya. > > > >The three bonds of Anava , Karma and Maya veil > >our sight. This is Siva's purposeful limiting of > >awareness which allows us to evolve. In the > >Superconscious depths of our soul, we share God Siva's all-knowingness. Aum. > > > >Just as children are kept from knowing all about > >adult life until they have matured into > >understanding, so too is the soul's knowledge > >limited. We learn what we need to know, and we > >understand what we have experienced. Only this > >narrowing of our awareness, coupled with a sense > >of individualized ego, allows us to look upon > >the world and our part in it from a practical, human point of view. > > > >Pasha is the soul's triple bondage: Maya, Karma > >and Anava. Without the world of Maya, the soul > >could not evolve through experience. Karma is > >the law of cause and effect, action and reaction > >governing Maya. Anava is the individuating veil > >of duality, source of ignorance and finitude. > >Maya is the classroom,Karma the teacher, and Anava the student's ignorance. > > > >The three bonds, or malas, are given by Lord > >Siva to help and protect us as we unfold. Yet, > >God Siva's all-knowingness may be experienced > >for brief periods by the meditator who turns within to his own essence. > > > >The Tirumantiram explains, " When the soul > >attains Self-knowledge, then it becomes one with > >Siva. The malas perish, birth's cycle ends and > >the lustrous light of wisdom dawns. " Aum Namah Sivaya. > > > > -----Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami > > > >Sivaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > This Email and files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you > have received this Email in error please notify the system manager. > Please note that any views or opinions presented in this Email are solely > those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of IndusInd > Bank Ltd. Finally, the recipient should check this Email and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. IndusInd Bank Ltd. accepts no > liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this Email. > ***************************************************************************** > ** Message has been scanned by Emergic MailServ ** > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Aadarneeya Chakravarty jee, Which state comes first: Seer? Knower?? It is not true as you stated that, <<nobody sees his or her own face>> The horoscope has built within its SCOPE two types of telescopes: Refractors and Reflectors, both of which are capable of showing the SKY! It is all about LENSES and MIRRORS! :-) Rohiniranjan , " hari " <harimalla wrote: > > Self knowledge is the knowledge of the knower or seer. It is thus not the knowledge of the known or the seen but of the knower itself within ourselves. Thus it cannot be actually known by ourselves since nobody sees his or her own face, but only by the grace of God. > > , kanishk <kanishk.chakravarty@> wrote: > > > > Self knowledge is the knowledge of the Soul. > > It is given in the bhagwat gita, and more in the upanishads. > > Self knowledge is also known as brahma_gyan. > > > > regards, > > kanishk. > > > > At 06:31 PM 3/31/2010, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >What is Self-Knowledge?? and How can one attain this?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________\ ______ > > > > > > " The life of Saibaba is as wide and as deep as > > >the infinite ocean;all can dive deep into it and > > >take out precious gems of knowledge and devotion > > >and cherish them to transform their lives. " --- Sri Sai Satcharitra > > >_____________________________\ _______ > > > > > > > > >--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk@> wrote: > > > > > >Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk@> > > > Why Are We Not Omniscient Like Siva? > > > > > >Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Deep in a pristine forest, worshipers perform > > >puja to a Sivalinga, invoking Siva-Sakti who > > >appear in a vision. Lord Siva, the architect of > > >knowledge, hands in abhaya and varada mudras, > > >expounds on the soul's three bonds: anava, karma and maya. > > > > > >The three bonds of Anava , Karma and Maya veil > > >our sight. This is Siva's purposeful limiting of > > >awareness which allows us to evolve. In the > > >Superconscious depths of our soul, we share God Siva's all-knowingness. Aum. > > > > > >Just as children are kept from knowing all about > > >adult life until they have matured into > > >understanding, so too is the soul's knowledge > > >limited. We learn what we need to know, and we > > >understand what we have experienced. Only this > > >narrowing of our awareness, coupled with a sense > > >of individualized ego, allows us to look upon > > >the world and our part in it from a practical, human point of view. > > > > > >Pasha is the soul's triple bondage: Maya, Karma > > >and Anava. Without the world of Maya, the soul > > >could not evolve through experience. Karma is > > >the law of cause and effect, action and reaction > > >governing Maya. Anava is the individuating veil > > >of duality, source of ignorance and finitude. > > >Maya is the classroom,Karma the teacher, and Anava the student's ignorance. > > > > > >The three bonds, or malas, are given by Lord > > >Siva to help and protect us as we unfold. Yet, > > >God Siva's all-knowingness may be experienced > > >for brief periods by the meditator who turns within to his own essence. > > > > > >The Tirumantiram explains, " When the soul > > >attains Self-knowledge, then it becomes one with > > >Siva. The malas perish, birth's cycle ends and > > >the lustrous light of wisdom dawns. " Aum Namah Sivaya. > > > > > > -----Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami > > > > > >Sivaya Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************** > > This Email and files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > > the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you > > have received this Email in error please notify the system manager. > > Please note that any views or opinions presented in this Email are solely > > those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of IndusInd > > Bank Ltd. Finally, the recipient should check this Email and any > > attachments for the presence of viruses. IndusInd Bank Ltd. accepts no > > liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this Email. > > ***************************************************************************** > > ** Message has been scanned by Emergic MailServ ** > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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