Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

[Guest guest]

Though, astrologically I have already predicted that by July - Sept

2011, Naxals will be defeated and this movement will start eradicated,

I wish to draw your attention to some of crucial open points -

 

Killing of 75 Jawans by 1000 Naxalites indicates failure of local

governance, We have panchayats, Kotwars, Post Offices, Scools and Police

Stations even in the remote forest area of Bastar whereas Rajnand Gaon

is developed place.

 

Such type of masacre has happened in considerable frequency in the past,

but, Govt has not learnt the lessons, It's a broad day light question

that what happened to police investigations of earlier incidents, what

was found out ? Seems, no investigation is done except for paper work,

how many arrested, how many trialed, who was the organizer etc are the

open burning points.

 

It's a time for lodging a RTI query on investigations of earlier

killings in the same manner.

 

It's a time raising question mark over capability of IAS and IPS

officers, this was the reason I decided to not to become an IAS officer,

I used to find myself better then the IAS District Magestriate of my

district when I was in my college.

 

Astrologically we know that this is mischeif of Retro Satrurn and Ketu,

Mars is not only weak it has been in the Virgo Navamsa for some days,

inciting low mentality people and criminals to attack on the values,

civilization and system.

 

I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good well

placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Why don't you run for the post?

Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been the first

Prime Minister or President in 1947!

 

Perhaps History would have been different!

 

Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by fundamentalists!!

 

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> ...

 

> I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good well

> placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ranjan ji,

 

Perhaps a strong Jupiter or Mars would also be a necessity na...

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

(mouj aayi fakir ki diya jhonpra phoonk)

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Thu, April 8, 2010 10:25:05 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

Why don't you run for the post?

Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been the first

Prime Minister or President in 1947!

 

Perhaps History would have been different!

 

Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by fundamentalists! !

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@ ...>

wrote:

>

> ...

 

> I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good well

> placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you want to

be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro gossips and

passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check what are

you.

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Why don't you run for the post?

> Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been

the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

>

> Perhaps History would have been different!

>

> Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

fundamentalists!!

>

>

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> > ...

>

> > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good

well

> > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, After correcting the way school boys are doing vedang jyotish, I wd look

what and how i can bring a corrective change in my country, as i see, people

have become so dwarf that they started finding virtueless, inferior life to be

the best and most intelligent way of living their life.

 

They value every cheap thing and undervalue every great thing.

 

Dont worry I hve got good strong jup in a kendra, with good mool trikona rashi

placed Sun aspected by that Jup, conjunct wth Mars.

 

 

 

 

 

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

>

> Ranjan ji,

>

> Perhaps a strong Jupiter or Mars would also be a necessity na...

>

> regards,

>

> Mouji

>

> (mouj aayi fakir ki diya jhonpra phoonk)

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Thu, April 8, 2010 10:25:05 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>  

> Why don't you run for the post?

> Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been the first

Prime Minister or President in 1947!

>

> Perhaps History would have been different!

>

> Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by fundamentalists!

!

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

....> wrote:

> >

> > ...

>

> > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good well

> > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> >

> >

>

 

[Guest guest]

Lalit,

 

From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you had some

visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all knowledge and what

India should do to become an even greater success, etc. So, essentially, I was

requesting you to 'go for it'. But it seems you chose to 'go after me instead'!

 

Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this in a week

or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit that depends on the

gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

 

RR_,

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you want to

> be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro gossips and

> passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check what are

> you.

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Why don't you run for the post?

> > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been

> the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> >

> > Perhaps History would have been different!

> >

> > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> fundamentalists!!

> >

> >

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ...

> >

> > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good

> well

> > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That is so so very sad :-(

1 Billion+ people choosing the wrong thing could indeed create the " reign of

confusion "

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Yes, After correcting the way school boys are doing vedang jyotish, I wd look

what and how i can bring a corrective change in my country, as i see, people

have become so dwarf that they started finding virtueless, inferior life to be

the best and most intelligent way of living their life.

>

> They value every cheap thing and undervalue every great thing.

>

> Dont worry I hve got good strong jup in a kendra, with good mool trikona rashi

placed Sun aspected by that Jup, conjunct wth Mars.

>

>

>

>

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > Ranjan ji,

> >

> > Perhaps a strong Jupiter or Mars would also be a necessity na...

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

> > (mouj aayi fakir ki diya jhonpra phoonk)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> >

> > Thu, April 8, 2010 10:25:05 AM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >  

> > Why don't you run for the post?

> > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have been the

first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> >

> > Perhaps History would have been different!

> >

> > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

fundamentalists! !

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > ...

> >

> > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with good well

> > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

 

I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

 

I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or Mahtma

Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small world.

 

Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger on

the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly followed

that.

 

Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

 

You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth a

bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show what

Sun, Mars or Jup means.

 

I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana and

have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

 

I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are themselves

equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

world.

 

I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Lalit,

>

> From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you had

some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it seems

you chose to 'go after me instead'!

>

> Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you want

to

> > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro gossips

and

> > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check what

are

> > you.

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

been

> > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > >

> > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > >

> > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > fundamentalists!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > >

> > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

good

> > well

> > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

>>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

 

Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana with Ketu.

Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro mercury in the 5th.

Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with Ketu and has kendradhipatya

dosha.

 

Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from kendradhipatya

dosha.

 

Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

Sir,

 

I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

 

I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or Mahtma

Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small world.

 

Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger on

the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly followed

that.

 

Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

 

You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth a

bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show what

Sun, Mars or Jup means.

 

I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana and

have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

 

I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are themselves

equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

world.

 

I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Lalit,

>

> From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you had

some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it seems

you chose to 'go after me instead'!

>

> Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> >

> > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you want

to

> > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro gossips

and

> > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check what

are

> > you.

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

been

> > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > >

> > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > >

> > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > fundamentalists! !

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > >

> > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

good

> > well

> > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

Even Modern Monks, Sadhu, Sanyaasis have seen and stated publicly that they see

a good side in me! And for a good reason, of course!

 

My 'good side' is a constant, here, there and elsewhere and hence when someone

does not understand that, I try harder!

 

I never said, that Vivekananda or Gandhiji or Pope John Paul now going to be

cannonized were ABNORMAL! I just said that we ordinary astrologers would NEVER

get to see charts as theirs cross our desks!

 

You are confusing me perhaps with some Jyotishis who regularly receive or at

least claim to receive -- charts of celebrities: Politicians, Silverscreen

figures and suchlike!

 

I have never ever claimed anything like that because all I ever dreamed of was

to help the regular folks who have rajyogas and even a few planets in

moolatrikona etc in kendra and trikonas but were really struggling to find

themselves in their charts that promised way more than what they achieved so

far!

 

REALITY, in other words!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

>

>

>

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there will

be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

 

I will be doing that some day.

 

 

True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of Kendradhipati

Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being in

Dhanu Navamsa.

 

Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

applicability of astrology.

 

During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to study

acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

 

9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

darkness.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

>

> Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with

Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi

>

> Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth

a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists! !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

>

[Guest guest]

Krishna_jee,

 

When someone opens their arms, we simply embrace them! Not analyze!!

 

They opened their arms first to those who simply Reciprocate as opposed to

Respond!

 

There is a BIG difference between the two...!

 

 

RR_,

[Guest guest]

Dear RR ji,

 

My PR is not that great. Thanks for the advice.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:42:08 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

Krishna_jee,

 

When someone opens their arms, we simply embrace them! Not analyze!!

 

They opened their arms first to those who simply Reciprocate as opposed to

Respond!

 

There is a BIG difference between the two...!

 

RR_,

 

 

 

 

 

Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!

http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

 

 

[Guest guest]

Like they say -- Petrol poured in the gas tank makes the car go places, but when

poured on the ground simply creates pollution and wastage! :-)

 

RR

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji,

>

> My PR is not that great. Thanks for the advice.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:42:08 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

> Krishna_jee,

>

> When someone opens their arms, we simply embrace them! Not analyze!!

>

> They opened their arms first to those who simply Reciprocate as opposed to

Respond!

>

> There is a BIG difference between the two...!

>

> RR_,

>

>

>

>

>

> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!

http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Utkal ji,

 

>>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong proposition

emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about this

dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The second verse

says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give benefic results. Hence,

this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology. And, it should be used while

delineating a chart.

 

In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving malefic results

due to owning two kendras.

 

However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is also

considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces rising.

Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

 

 

>Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

 

 

As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't produce

Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The definition of

Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all occupy Kendras or

Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is according to 'Phaladeepika'

of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi Yoga exists based on this definition.

However, Mercury and Jupiter being retrograde has hampered this yoga to some

extent. Though retrograde planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala,

they tend to lose their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your

note on retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from the

classics on this topic.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there will

be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

 

I will be doing that some day.

 

True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of Kendradhipati

Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being in

Dhanu Navamsa.

 

Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

applicability of astrology.

 

During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to study

acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

 

9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

darkness.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

>

> Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with

Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth

a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists! !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna Ji

 

As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

Sharadah !!

 

That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

 

I don't have Mars in 11'th, however, 9'th lord mars aspects 9'th house

where is moon and by 2nd lordship of Scorpio, as Ketu conjuncts Merc in

5'th, gives it's good and bad traits both.

 

So, in my self assessment, Sharada or Saraswati Yoga is present but not

strong.

 

I w'd write on both Kendradhipatya and Retro planets.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The

second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

>

> In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

malefic results due to owning two kendras.

>

> However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

>

>

> >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

>

>

> As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

the classics on this topic.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi

>

> Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Dear Krishna Ji,

>

> There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

will

> be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

>

> I will be doing that some day.

>

> True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

Kendradhipati

> Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

in

> Dhanu Navamsa.

>

> Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> applicability of astrology.

>

> During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

study

> acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

>

> 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> darkness.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> >

> > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

with

> Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> >

> > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> >

> > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> Mahtma

> > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

exclusively

> > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> world.

> >

> > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> on

> > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> followed

> > that.

> >

> > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

door,I

> > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

everybody

> > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> >

> > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

worth

> a

> > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

that

> > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

at

> > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> what

> > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> >

> > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

in

> > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> and

> > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> >

> > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> themselves

> > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > world.

> >

> > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Lalit,

> > >

> > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> had

> > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

success,

> > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> seems

> > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > >

> > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

this

> > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> want

> > to

> > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> gossips

> > and

> > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> what

> > are

> > > > you.

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > been

> > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > >

> > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

with

> > good

> > > > well

> > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. com/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna ji,

 

thanks for a good post.I totally agree with what you have

posted.........Kendradhipatya dosha is a reality...

 

Love and regards,

 

gopi.

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The

second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

>

> In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

malefic results due to owning two kendras.

>

> However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

>

>

> >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

>

>

> As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

the classics on this topic.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi

>

> Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Dear Krishna Ji,

>

> There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

will

> be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

>

> I will be doing that some day.

>

> True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

Kendradhipati

> Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

in

> Dhanu Navamsa.

>

> Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> applicability of astrology.

>

> During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

study

> acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

>

> 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> darkness.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> >

> > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

with

> Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> >

> > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> >

> > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> Mahtma

> > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

exclusively

> > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> world.

> >

> > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> on

> > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> followed

> > that.

> >

> > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

door,I

> > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

everybody

> > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> >

> > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

worth

> a

> > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

that

> > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

at

> > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> what

> > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> >

> > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

in

> > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> and

> > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> >

> > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> themselves

> > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > world.

> >

> > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Lalit,

> > >

> > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> had

> > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

success,

> > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> seems

> > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > >

> > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

this

> > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> want

> > to

> > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> gossips

> > and

> > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> what

> > are

> > > > you.

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > been

> > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > >

> > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

with

> > good

> > > > well

> > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. com/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

By chance I too had the details of Utkal chart,

 

The Jupiter is too strong being in retrograde motion and the 10th house where

the planets get highest potential. Moon aspected by Mars and Saturn , Saturn had

3/4rth aspect on 7th , Jupiter retrogression give strength to Jupiter , but in

Dasha Mahadasha it may have not given the good results due to Venus in 7th from

him and Rahu in the next house.Kendraadhipatiya dosha does not say that benefics

had becomes malefic, but are so sensitive that a little affliction in bad houses

will harm much. Like Jupiter is harmed through Venus aspect from 4rth. But Venus

is to give all the good results in his dasha Mahadasha which Jupiter had gained

, it is as Venus took all the good from Jupiter and give his bad to Jupiter.

 

Mercury and Ketu are producing Raj yoga in 5th in spite of Mercury retrograde,

the Saturn aspect reduce this yoga,

 

The Sun and Mars are good in 6th also being 9th from Jupiter , form the strength

to Jupiter being source to knowledge and being in the same fiery element, but

same Mars Sun cause troubles, delays or problems due to ego and managerial clash

in job being 4rth from Saturn.

 

The Utkal chart is his fight with his own people to do good but with heat and

disturbance/burden on mind.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

11 April, 2010 12:34 PM

 

Re: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Utkal ji,

 

>>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong proposition

emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about this

dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The second verse

says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give benefic results. Hence,

this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology. And, it should be used while

delineating a chart.

 

In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving malefic results

due to owning two kendras.

 

However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is also

considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces rising.

Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

 

>Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

 

As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't produce

Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The definition of

Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all occupy Kendras or Konas

or 2nd either together or separately. This is according to 'Phaladeepika' of

Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi Yoga exists based on this definition.

However, Mercury and Jupiter being retrograde has hampered this yoga to some

extent. Though retrograde planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala,

they tend to lose their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your

note on retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from the

classics on this topic.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

<utkal.panigrahi%40> >

<%40>

Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there will

be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

 

I will be doing that some day.

 

True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of Kendradhipati

Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being in

Dhanu Navamsa.

 

Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

applicability of astrology.

 

During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to study

acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

 

9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

darkness.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

>

> Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with

Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth

a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists! !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Going to Nakshatra the Ketu is best because Jupiter and Mars the major yoga

karka gains the star of Ketu and Ketu is in the star of Jupiter , it gives much

strength to recite Mantra and even Sidhis from them.Ketu can give higher

spiritual experience too.

 

But equally bad is the Venus in Rahu star and Rahu in Sun star, hospitality to

illusion and illusion affecting to soul.

 

This is your internal fight to win over yourself.

 

Mars is also afflicted from the ego of Sun and Sun is aired by devils.

 

With best wishes ,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Inder Jit Sahni

12 April, 2010 8:21 AM

 

RE: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

 

 

By chance I too had the details of Utkal chart,

 

The Jupiter is too strong being in retrograde motion and the 10th house where

the planets get highest potential. Moon aspected by Mars and Saturn , Saturn had

3/4rth aspect on 7th , Jupiter retrogression give strength to Jupiter , but in

Dasha Mahadasha it may have not given the good results due to Venus in 7th from

him and Rahu in the next house.Kendraadhipatiya dosha does not say that benefics

had becomes malefic, but are so sensitive that a little affliction in bad houses

will harm much. Like Jupiter is harmed through Venus aspect from 4rth. But Venus

is to give all the good results in his dasha Mahadasha which Jupiter had gained

, it is as Venus took all the good from Jupiter and give his bad to Jupiter.

 

Mercury and Ketu are producing Raj yoga in 5th in spite of Mercury retrograde,

the Saturn aspect reduce this yoga,

 

The Sun and Mars are good in 6th also being 9th from Jupiter , form the strength

to Jupiter being source to knowledge and being in the same fiery element, but

same Mars Sun cause troubles, delays or problems due to ego and managerial clash

in job being 4rth from Saturn.

 

The Utkal chart is his fight with his own people to do good but with heat and

disturbance/burden on mind.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

<%40>

[ <%40> ]

On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

11 April, 2010 12:34 PM

<%40>

Re: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Dear Utkal ji,

 

>>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong proposition

emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about this

dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The second verse

says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give benefic results. Hence,

this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology. And, it should be used while

delineating a chart.

 

In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving malefic results

due to owning two kendras.

 

However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is also

considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces rising.

Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

 

>Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

 

As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't produce

Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The definition of

Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all occupy Kendras or Konas

or 2nd either together or separately. This is according to 'Phaladeepika' of

Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi Yoga exists based on this definition.

However, Mercury and Jupiter being retrograde has hampered this yoga to some

extent. Though retrograde planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala,

they tend to lose their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your

note on retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from the

classics on this topic.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

<utkal.panigrahi%40> <utkal.panigrahi%40> >

<%40>

<%40>

Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there will

be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

 

I will be doing that some day.

 

True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of Kendradhipati

Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being in

Dhanu Navamsa.

 

Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

applicability of astrology.

 

During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to study

acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

 

9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

darkness.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

>

> Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with

Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth

a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists! !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Gopi ji.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

________________________________

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

 

Sun, 11 April, 2010 5:50:58 PM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

thanks for a good post.I totally agree with what you have

posted...... ...Kendradhipaty a dosha is a reality...

 

Love and regards,

 

gopi.

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas' . The

second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

>

> In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

malefic results due to owning two kendras.

>

> However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

>

>

> >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

>

>

> As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

the classics on this topic.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Dear Krishna Ji,

>

> There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

will

> be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

>

> I will be doing that some day.

>

> True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

Kendradhipati

> Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

in

> Dhanu Navamsa.

>

> Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> applicability of astrology.

>

> During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

study

> acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

>

> 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> darkness.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> >

> > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

with

> Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> >

> > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> >

> > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> Mahtma

> > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

exclusively

> > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> world.

> >

> > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> on

> > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> followed

> > that.

> >

> > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

door,I

> > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

everybody

> > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> >

> > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

worth

> a

> > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

that

> > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

at

> > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> what

> > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> >

> > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

in

> > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> and

> > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> >

> > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> themselves

> > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > world.

> >

> > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Lalit,

> > >

> > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> had

> > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

success,

> > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> seems

> > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > >

> > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

this

> > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> want

> > to

> > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> gossips

> > and

> > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> what

> > are

> > > > you.

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > been

> > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > >

> > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

with

> > good

> > > > well

> > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. com/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

I just have one factual correction to make:

 

> As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

> Sharadah !!

>

> That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

> Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

 

The word (as in " kuje laabhe cha " ) means " and " . Thus, Mars being in 11th

is not at all an " optional " condition, but a necessary condition. Whosever

translation you are following has made a mistake. There is no ambiguity.

 

The line you quoted clearly means " if Jupiter OR Mercury is in a trine from Moon

AND if Mars is in 11th " .

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

-

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Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

-

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna Ji

>

> As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

> Sharadah !!

>

> That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

> Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

>

> I don't have Mars in 11'th, however, 9'th lord mars aspects 9'th house

> where is moon and by 2nd lordship of Scorpio, as Ketu conjuncts Merc in

> 5'th, gives it's good and bad traits both.

>

> So, in my self assessment, Sharada or Saraswati Yoga is present but not

> strong.

>

> I w'd write on both Kendradhipatya and Retro planets.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Utkal ji,

> >

> > >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

> this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The

> second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

> benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

> And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

> >

> > In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

> malefic results due to owning two kendras.

> >

> > However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

> also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

> rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

> >

> >

> > >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

> >

> >

> > As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

> produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

> definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

> occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

> according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

> Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

> retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

> planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

> their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

> retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

> planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

> the classics on this topic.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@

> >

> > Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishna Ji,

> >

> > There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> > proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> > month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> > co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> > on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

> will

> > be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

> >

> > I will be doing that some day.

> >

> > True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

> Kendradhipati

> > Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> > Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> > configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

> in

> > Dhanu Navamsa.

> >

> > Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> > strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> > today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> > form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> > applicability of astrology.

> >

> > During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

> study

> > acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> > life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

> >

> > 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> > lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> > darkness.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> > got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> > >

> > > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> > with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> > mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

> with

> > Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> > kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> > >

> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> > >

> > > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> > Mahtma

> > > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

> exclusively

> > > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> > world.

> > >

> > > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> > on

> > > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> > followed

> > > that.

> > >

> > > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

> door,I

> > > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

> everybody

> > > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> > >

> > > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

> worth

> > a

> > > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

> that

> > > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

> at

> > > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> > what

> > > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> > >

> > > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

> in

> > > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> > and

> > > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> > >

> > > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> > themselves

> > > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > > world.

> > >

> > > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@

> > ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> > had

> > > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

> success,

> > > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> > seems

> > > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > > >

> > > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

> this

> > > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> > want

> > > to

> > > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> > gossips

> > > and

> > > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> > what

> > > are

> > > > > you.

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > > been

> > > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

> with

> > > good

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

I just have one factual correction to make:

 

> As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

> Sharadah !!

>

> That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

> Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

 

The word (as in " kuje laabhe cha " ) means " and " . Thus, Mars being in 11th

is not at all an " optional " condition, but a necessary condition. Whosever

translation you are following has made a mistake. There is no ambiguity.

 

The line you quoted clearly means " if Jupiter OR Mercury is in a trine from Moon

AND if Mars is in 11th " .

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

-

Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

" Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

Jyotish writings: JyotishWritings

-

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna Ji

>

> As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

> Sharadah !!

>

> That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

> Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

>

> I don't have Mars in 11'th, however, 9'th lord mars aspects 9'th house

> where is moon and by 2nd lordship of Scorpio, as Ketu conjuncts Merc in

> 5'th, gives it's good and bad traits both.

>

> So, in my self assessment, Sharada or Saraswati Yoga is present but not

> strong.

>

> I w'd write on both Kendradhipatya and Retro planets.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Utkal ji,

> >

> > >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

> this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The

> second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

> benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

> And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

> >

> > In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

> malefic results due to owning two kendras.

> >

> > However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

> also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

> rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

> >

> >

> > >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

> >

> >

> > As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

> produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

> definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

> occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

> according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

> Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

> retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

> planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

> their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

> retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

> planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

> the classics on this topic.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@

> >

> > Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishna Ji,

> >

> > There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> > proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> > month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> > co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> > on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

> will

> > be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

> >

> > I will be doing that some day.

> >

> > True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

> Kendradhipati

> > Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> > Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> > configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

> in

> > Dhanu Navamsa.

> >

> > Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> > strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> > today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> > form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> > applicability of astrology.

> >

> > During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

> study

> > acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> > life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

> >

> > 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> > lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> > darkness.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> > got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> > >

> > > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> > with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> > mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

> with

> > Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> > kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> > >

> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> > >

> > > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> > Mahtma

> > > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

> exclusively

> > > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> > world.

> > >

> > > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> > on

> > > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> > followed

> > > that.

> > >

> > > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

> door,I

> > > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

> everybody

> > > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> > >

> > > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

> worth

> > a

> > > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

> that

> > > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

> at

> > > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> > what

> > > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> > >

> > > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

> in

> > > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> > and

> > > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> > >

> > > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> > themselves

> > > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > > world.

> > >

> > > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@

> > ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> > had

> > > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

> success,

> > > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> > seems

> > > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > > >

> > > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

> this

> > > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> > want

> > > to

> > > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> > gossips

> > > and

> > > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> > what

> > > are

> > > > > you.

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > > been

> > > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

> with

> > > good

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

[Guest guest]

DearUtkal ji,

 

 

 

Well i wanted to ask u tht If Jup is in Trine to Moon n 11th

House Lord is Mars is wit Jup n trine to Moon n in his own House (I have Makar

Lagna n Rasi n Jup is in Mesh wit Mars Trine to Moon Both Mars Being 11th LORD

too). Please explain. Thank U Mohit

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishna Ji

>

> As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

> Sharadah !!

>

> That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

> Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

>

> I don't have Mars in 11'th, however, 9'th lord mars aspects 9'th house

> where is moon and by 2nd lordship of Scorpio, as Ketu conjuncts Merc in

> 5'th, gives it's good and bad traits both.

>

> So, in my self assessment, Sharada or Saraswati Yoga is present but not

> strong.

>

> I w'd write on both Kendradhipatya and Retro planets.

>

> regards,

> Utkal

>

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Utkal ji,

> >

> > >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

> this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas'. The

> second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

> benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

> And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

> >

> > In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

> malefic results due to owning two kendras.

> >

> > However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

> also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

> rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

> >

> >

> > >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

> >

> >

> > As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

> produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

> definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

> occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

> according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

> Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

> retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

> planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

> their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

> retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

> planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

> the classics on this topic.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@

> >

> > Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishna Ji,

> >

> > There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> > proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

> >

> > In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> > month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> > co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> > on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

> will

> > be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

> >

> > I will be doing that some day.

> >

> > True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

> Kendradhipati

> > Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> > Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> > configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

> in

> > Dhanu Navamsa.

> >

> > Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> > strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> > today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> > form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> > applicability of astrology.

> >

> > During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

> study

> > acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> > life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

> >

> > 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> > lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> > darkness.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> > got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> > >

> > > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> > with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> > mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

> with

> > Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> > kendradhipatya dosha.

> > >

> > > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> > >

> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> > >

> > > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> > Mahtma

> > > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

> exclusively

> > > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> > world.

> > >

> > > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> > on

> > > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> > followed

> > > that.

> > >

> > > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

> door,I

> > > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

> everybody

> > > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> > >

> > > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

> worth

> > a

> > > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

> that

> > > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

> at

> > > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> > what

> > > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> > >

> > > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

> in

> > > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> > and

> > > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> > >

> > > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> > themselves

> > > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > > world.

> > >

> > > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Utkal.

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@

> > ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> > had

> > > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

> success,

> > > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> > seems

> > > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > > >

> > > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

> this

> > > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> > want

> > > to

> > > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> > gossips

> > > and

> > > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> > what

> > > are

> > > > > you.

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > > been

> > > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

> with

> > > good

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Utkal ji,

 

I have G C Sharma's translation of BPHS. According to that, if Jupiter or

Mercury is in a trine from Moon and Mars is situated in the 11th house, the

yoga thus formed is called 'Sharada Yoga'

 

 

Here, Mars in 11th does not appear to be an optional condition and is clearly a

necessary condition. Hence, in my opinion, the said yoga is not formed in the

chart under discussion.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

________________________________

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Sun, 11 April, 2010 4:40:56 PM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

 

 

Dear Krishna Ji

 

As per Parashara - !! Chandrat Kone Gurau Gye va Kuje Labhe cha

Sharadah !!

 

That Means - If , Merc or Jup is in trines to Moon there is Sharada

Yoga, he also puts an optional condition for Mars (Kuje) to be in 11'th.

 

I don't have Mars in 11'th, however, 9'th lord mars aspects 9'th house

where is moon and by 2nd lordship of Scorpio, as Ketu conjuncts Merc in

5'th, gives it's good and bad traits both.

 

So, in my self assessment, Sharada or Saraswati Yoga is present but not

strong.

 

I w'd write on both Kendradhipatya and Retro planets.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> >>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about

this dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas' . The

second verse says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give

benefic results. Hence, this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology.

And, it should be used while delineating a chart.

>

> In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving

malefic results due to owning two kendras.

>

> However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is

also considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces

rising. Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

>

>

> >Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

>

>

> As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't

produce Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The

definition of Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all

occupy Kendras or Konas or 2nd either together or separately. This is

according to 'Phaladeepika' of Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi

Yoga exists based on this definition. However, Mercury and Jupiter being

retrograde has hampered this yoga to some extent. Though retrograde

planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala, they tend to lose

their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your note on

retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from

the classics on this topic.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Dear Krishna Ji,

>

> There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

> proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

>

> In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

> month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

> co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

> on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there

will

> be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

>

> I will be doing that some day.

>

> True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of

Kendradhipati

> Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

> Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

> configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being

in

> Dhanu Navamsa.

>

> Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

> strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

> today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

> form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

> applicability of astrology.

>

> During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to

study

> acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

> life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

>

> 9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

> lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

> darkness.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

> got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

> >

> > Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

> with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

> mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is

with

> Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

> kendradhipatya dosha.

> >

> > Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

> >

> > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> > Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> > reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> > crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> > postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

> >

> > I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

> Mahtma

> > Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were

exclusively

> > abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

> world.

> >

> > Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

> on

> > the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

> followed

> > that.

> >

> > Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next

door,I

> > will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see

everybody

> > else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

> >

> > You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is

worth

> a

> > bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted

that

> > he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is

at

> > hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

> what

> > Sun, Mars or Jup means.

> >

> > I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> > Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> > things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are

in

> > Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> > support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

> and

> > have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> > beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

> >

> > I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> > ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

> themselves

> > equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> > world.

> >

> > I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> > astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@

> ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Lalit,

> > >

> > > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

> had

> > some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> > knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater

success,

> > etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

> seems

> > you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> > >

> > > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to

this

> > in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> > that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

> want

> > to

> > > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

> gossips

> > and

> > > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

> what

> > are

> > > > you.

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> > been

> > > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > > >

> > > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > > fundamentalists! !

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister

with

> > good

> > > > well

> > > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. com/

> >

> >