FW: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

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Ego ego and more ego... all siddhis/visions/abcd are useless if ego is not

reduced.....

 

-Utkal

 

--- On Mon, 12/4/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni wrote:

 

 

Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni

FW: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Monday, 12 April, 2010, 3:17 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Going to Nakshatra the Ketu is best because Jupiter and Mars the major yoga

karka gains the star of Ketu and Ketu is in the star of Jupiter , it gives much

strength to recite Mantra and even Sidhis from them.Ketu can give higher

spiritual experience too.

 

But equally bad is the Venus in Rahu star and Rahu in Sun star, hospitality to

illusion and illusion affecting to soul.

 

This is your internal fight to win over yourself.

 

Mars is also afflicted from the ego of Sun and Sun is aired by devils.

 

With best wishes ,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

[] On

Behalf Of Inder Jit Sahni

12 April, 2010 8:21 AM

 

RE: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

By chance I too had the details of Utkal chart,

 

The Jupiter is too strong being in retrograde motion and the 10th house where

the planets get highest potential. Moon aspected by Mars and Saturn , Saturn had

3/4rth aspect on 7th , Jupiter retrogression give strength to Jupiter , but in

Dasha Mahadasha it may have not given the good results due to Venus in 7th from

him and Rahu in the next house.Kendraadhipat iya dosha does not say that

benefics had becomes malefic, but are so sensitive that a little affliction in

bad houses will harm much. Like Jupiter is harmed through Venus aspect from

4rth. But Venus is to give all the good results in his dasha Mahadasha which

Jupiter had gained , it is as Venus took all the good from Jupiter and give his

bad to Jupiter.

 

Mercury and Ketu are producing Raj yoga in 5th in spite of Mercury retrograde,

the Saturn aspect reduce this yoga,

 

The Sun and Mars are good in 6th also being 9th from Jupiter , form the strength

to Jupiter being source to knowledge and being in the same fiery element, but

same Mars Sun cause troubles, delays or problems due to ego and managerial clash

in job being 4rth from Saturn.

 

The Utkal chart is his fight with his own people to do good but with heat and

disturbance/ burden on mind.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

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] On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

11 April, 2010 12:34 PM

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Re: Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Dear Utkal ji,

 

>>There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong proposition

emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

This understanding is incorrect. Parashara has clearly mentioned about this

dosha in BPHS. Please look into the chapter on 'Yogakarakas' . The second verse

says that natural benefics owning Kendras will not give benefic results. Hence,

this is undoubtedly a part of Vedic Astrology. And, it should be used while

delineating a chart.

 

In your case, Mercury clearly falls into this category of giving malefic results

due to owning two kendras.

 

However, Jupiter escapes the rule by virtue of owning lagna (which is also

considered a Kona) as well. Hence, Jupiter is a benefic for Pisces rising.

Hence, I guess you have good results during Jupiter period.

 

>Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga

 

As far as my knowledge goes, Mercury and Moon combination doesn't produce

Saraswathi Yoga. Can you give the source of your definition? The definition of

Saraswathi yoga is - When Jupiter, Venus and Mercury all occupy Kendras or Konas

or 2nd either together or separately. This is according to 'Phaladeepika' of

Mantreshwara. In your chart, Saraswathi Yoga exists based on this definition.

However, Mercury and Jupiter being retrograde has hampered this yoga to some

extent. Though retrograde planets are stronger by virtue of getting chestabala,

they tend to lose their benefic nature by the same token. I look forward to your

note on retrograde planets. Classics have not clearly stated much on retrograde

planets. Hence, it would be interesting to see what you glean out from the

classics on this topic.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

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Sat, 10 April, 2010 11:26:36 AM

Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

 

Dear Krishna Ji,

 

There is no Kendradhipatya Dosha in vedic astrology, It's wrong

proposition emphasized in the age Jatak Parijaata was written.

 

In 2007 - 08, when Jup was in Dhanu, I got two promotions within 4

month's time with almost 40% hike in take home amount, as transit

co-incided with Ketu - Jup period, So, I feel there is a need to write

on retrogradation of the planets with case studies otherwise there will

be huge loss to analytical skills of vedic astrologers.

 

I will be doing that some day.

 

True, Merc is not good in my horoscope but not because of Kendradhipati

Dosha but it's so because, it's placed on moon sign and aspected by

Saturn from 3rd house, Considering Merc's retrogradation in above

configuration in 5'th is a blessing, It has minute advantage of being in

Dhanu Navamsa.

 

Moon in 9'th and Merc in 5'th makes Saraswati Yoga but this is not

strong, I was not into astrology before Jun 2006, but, when I remember

today that unknowingly, I always worshipped Saraswati in Maa Sharada

form, I get amazed at, what more required to understand amazing

applicability of astrology.

 

During Merc's dasha I never did good in my studies, never liked to study

acadademic subjects, But Ketu gave me every thing that one needs in

life, Ketu's period was like a period of Raj Yoga.

 

9'th lord Mars's aspect on Lagna and Lagna Lord Jup's aspect on 9'th

lord Mars is the source of strength to fight with evil to dispel

darkness.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> >>I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has

got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point

>

> Moon in debilitation sign is not a problem as it is in parivartana

with Ketu. Hence, it gains strength on that account. Problem is retro

mercury in the 5th. Note that Mercury has turned a malefic as it is with

Ketu and has kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Jupiter, the lagna lord is retrograde and also suffers from

kendradhipatya dosha.

>

> Mars aspecting both lagna and Moon is another issue.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@ ...

>

> Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:48:50 PM

> Re: Naxalites, Govt Operation and Astrology

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> I am no way after you, I can't be, there is a good side of you which

> reflects time to time but at other times, you also like rest of the

> crowd, take to ignore the potential of vedic astrology and even do

> postings in a manner virtues of life seem helpless.

>

> I discourage when I see people like you say Swami Vivekananda or

Mahtma

> Gandhi or Nehru or Subhash Chandra or Washington etc were exclusively

> abnormal then the others, so, it's better to live in one's small

world.

>

> Those who are mentioned above are as normal as you or me or a begger

on

> the road, but, they had a conviction in life and they honestly

followed

> that.

>

> Pls have faith and confidence, even being a normal guy of next door,I

> will do wonder in the world and at the same time wish to see everybody

> else also doing wonders, to make this world a wonderful world.

>

> You know, I always knew that Osama also fears the bullet and is worth

a

> bullet only, I never had a doubt on that and one day, I predicted that

> he is no more.What are Naxalites, Who cares them, today country is at

> hands of non performers, let it come on our hands and we will show

what

> Sun, Mars or Jup means.

>

> I suffer because of weak Trikonas, 5'th has got Merc and 9'th has got

> Moon, just 5 degree ahead of debilitation point, otherwise, reast of

> things are qute well, all malifics in 3,6 and 11, all benifics are in

> Kendras makes me a performer but weak trokonas doesn't give required

> support. Trikonas are punya sthal, I have done crisp mantra sadhana

and

> have seen in my life what are mantras their power and much much more

> beyond that what's written in the books like Aghora or Shambavi.

>

> I don't know why for some books or some personalities are treated as

> ultimate realities by some people when they normal people are

themselves

> equally abnormal, at this point, I bow down to Maya that envaloped

> world.

>

> I hope, you will let the good sife of you prevail and at least

> astrologers w'd find more light of knowledge.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....>

> wrote:

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > From the tone of your recent postings, my impression was that you

had

> some visions about how best to bring Jyotish to the fore of all

> knowledge and what India should do to become an even greater success,

> etc. So, essentially, I was requesting you to 'go for it'. But it

seems

> you chose to 'go after me instead'!

> >

> > Always the easier target, it seems. I hope to get a response to this

> in a week or so after the comet (dhoomketu) returns during its orbit

> that depends on the gravitational pull of the sun and planets! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand one should first raise a question at oneself, you

want

> to

> > > be seen as most wise poster of groups, posting all non astro

gossips

> and

> > > passing remarks. When last time you reviewd yourself ? Have some

> > > questions raised at yourself, look into your horoscope to check

what

> are

> > > you.

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why don't you run for the post?

> > > > Or find someone who can replace Mahatma Gandhi who should have

> been

> > > the first Prime Minister or President in 1947!

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps History would have been different!

> > > >

> > > > Or not -- since he would have gotten assassinated anyways by

> > > fundamentalists! !

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " utkal.panigrahi "

> > > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > > I tell you that India desperately needs a prime minister with

> good

> > > well

> > > > > placed Jup and Mars in Kendras.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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>

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