Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today- 344 Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it carefully and learn something from the same! If the Engineers/scientists at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met with such dismal results! It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody must be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more a Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane (sic!) advice of Vedic astrologers " . 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad---in spite of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had advised the advancing of Elections! 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those " Vedic astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be allowed to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able to decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us celebrate all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras instead of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul ***** ****** ******* ******* ****** ****** Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces either. Hence the astrological precautions. " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which is 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. " The satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring the launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. ****** ****** ****** ***** ****** ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time for launch with 4 planets in the 8th house, on a Pratipada. regards, Manoj ________________________________ jyotirved <jyotirved ; hinducalendar ; abhinavagupta Sun, April 18, 2010 10:30:59 PM " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! Â Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today- 344 Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it carefully and learn something from the same! If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met with such dismal results! It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody must be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more a Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane (sic!) advice of Vedic astrologers " . 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had advised the advancing of Elections! 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those " Vedic astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be allowed to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able to decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us celebrate all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras instead of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul ***** ****** ******* ******* ****** ****** Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces either. Hence the astrological precautions. " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which is 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. " The satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring the launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. ****** ****** ****** ***** ****** ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? Â -Utkal --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: jyotirved <jyotirved " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! , hinducalendar , abhinavagupta Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM Â Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% 80%99s-gslv- launch-today- 344 Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it carefully and learn something from the same! If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met with such dismal results! It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody must be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more a Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane (sic!) advice of Vedic astrologers " . 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had advised the advancing of Elections! 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those " Vedic astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be allowed to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able to decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us celebrate all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras instead of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul ***** ****** ******* ******* ****** ****** Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces either. Hence the astrological precautions. " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which is 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. " The satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring the launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. ****** ****** ****** ***** ****** ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Only avidya bhavan can ignore retro sat on kumha navamsa, ketu on mesha navamsa and mars on vrischik navamsa, and fall for tithi, not knowing relation of transit with muhurta. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time for launch with 4 planets in the 8th house, on a Pratipada. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > jyotirved <jyotirved > ; hinducalendar ; abhinavagupta > Sun, April 18, 2010 10:30:59 PM > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > > Â > Dear friends, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today- > 344 > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > carefully and learn something from the same! > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met > with such dismal results! > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody must > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more a > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane (sic!) > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had > advised the advancing of Elections! > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those " Vedic > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be allowed > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able to > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us celebrate > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras instead > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! > > Jai Shri Ram! > > A K Kaul > > ***** ****** > ******* ******* > ****** ****** > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces either. > Hence the astrological precautions. > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which is > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. " The > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring the > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > ****** ****** > ****** ***** > ****** ***** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical trials and medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION eating away at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up enforcing that :-) aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may STOP, food and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if distributed equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding some decent Astrological research! OR N-O-T...! , Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal wrote: > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > Â > -Utkal > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: > > > jyotirved <jyotirved > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > , hinducalendar , abhinavagupta > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > Â > > > > Dear friends, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% 80%99s-gslv- launch-today- > 344 > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > carefully and learn something from the same! > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met > with such dismal results! > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody must > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more a > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane (sic!) > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had > advised the advancing of Elections! > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those " Vedic > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be allowed > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able to > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us celebrate > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras instead > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! > > Jai Shri Ram! > > A K Kaul > > ***** ****** > ******* ******* > ****** ****** > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces either. > Hence the astrological precautions. > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which is > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. " The > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring the > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > ****** ****** > ****** ***** > ****** ***** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Shri Manoj Kumar ji, Jai Shri Ram! <I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time > 1. Is it that " Vedic astologers " are not Hindus? or 2. Is it tat " Hindu astrologers " are not " Vedic " ? 3. What is the difference between the two? Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time for launch with 4 planets in the 8th house, on a Pratipada. regards, Manoj ________________________________ jyotirved <jyotirved </post?postID=sz-tZEO256S2oq657NCON7CoTk7k7eDCDCI16uH\ GG782PH_Ts-TYyCXJoyiIcAjk7wa_dk4LNhMTM98> > </post?postID=n5_Kc4uEh1Y8TRrfD0fB6wRBf16pdsSs_nv4JHv\ RRZ_umyY7KgqWWNJcNszOUbSoT6gZ7EUuQF5lH8-FTyHpKJ3p> ; hinducalendar </post?postID=f_NzQdpFatBPwjlkwkzMgxhSTP3aRb6r9Jm3Q8j\ lyXYfS7Bzq09xdeQGCZ1uF6XcB4Z-ZOrEN34QFeeoNO8YPBYx51hlUh4> ; abhinavagupta </post?postID=oJqRRxH6gJmgNMLr_oEFlfixewhM9Uhul3mDAzc\ tyJF_OCBSdABu1qFB1lr7sEpZ5TD3N9FUlF_AWz5YRuaOsSTf5Az5Kw> Sun, April 18, 2010 10:30:59 PM " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! Â Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-to\ day- <http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-t\ oday-> 344 Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it carefully and learn something from the same! If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met with such dismal results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Shri Utkal Mishra ji, Jai Shri Ram! < nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too?> Qualified doctors are working on certain scientific principles, and the rate of wrong diaganosis is not even one per thousand, whereas predictive gimmicks are just a blind man's buff, with every " jyotishi " bound to make wong diaganosis since predictions are based on rashis and rashis themselves are non-existent scientifically! It is as such no a miracle that some odd predictions prove correct, but that rate is not more than seventy percent as per all the jyotishis put together! Over the last two thousand years, useless and fundamentally worng astronomical data were used for preparing panchangas! Thus if still it is claimed that those jyotishis made correct predictions, obviously, they did so from incorrect data! In other wrods, anybody making correct predictions from incorrect data whether yesterday or today or tomorrow will always be known as a charlatan! As such, we have more charlatanas than jyotishis around even today! Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal wrote: > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > Â > -Utkal > Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? Â -Utkal --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved </post?postID=IyBQoYyMzRloic2udU-sxIdLmNI5IAeWUU2x4np\ ViZsi0pvQqbWPBTcmNDaFyTFtfHTF4wLPT95oTg1z> > wrote: jyotirved <jyotirved </post?postID=IyBQoYyMzRloic2udU-sxIdLmNI5IAeWUU2x4np\ ViZsi0pvQqbWPBTcmNDaFyTFtfHTF4wLPT95oTg1z> > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! </post?postID=dLCfUYt1XPKTYzMIxW1g_a1O8K4hYqx-iV3Ux1c\ p36j9VM_hhcWk1jt5-E3zEWFkJMYVjC4E2i5tlpsn3Y_aQi1Suw> , hinducalendar </post?postID=8yi_hG2a0VA8RikjaBVMW9q3tGZDJXpKboRHTU9\ KUnp0wtja2flUPM8lsUrfe-p2j1eSL978oaCFr17XXdnVksfBFnGJGAE> , abhinavagupta </post?postID=2A144UpyuC5yBe9dPWiEBo25u6N4OIFEMB7oT10\ vD8lS7ONv4IBgaGDgmMBUJJexcwp5CoipnyV-Y4_d_YY8-810Jw> Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM Â Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Namaskaar All I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems in developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic Astrology. How is Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the time was even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does he have confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers subverted the launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - type a long response without thinking. He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and are the Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge or wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion in his favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his calendar is the correct one? Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain so much to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A man who claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be highly arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. Thanks and Regards Bharat On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical trials and > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION eating away > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up enforcing that > :-) > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may STOP, food > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if distributed > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding some > decent Astrological research! > > OR N-O-T...! > > <%40>, > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal wrote: > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > Â > > -Utkal > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > > <%40>, > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% 80%99s-gslv- > launch-today- > > 344 > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than > on > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not > met > > with such dismal results! > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody > must > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more > a > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane > (sic!) > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those > " Vedic > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be > allowed > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able > to > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > celebrate > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras > instead > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > A K Kaul > > > > ***** ****** > > ******* ******* > > ****** ****** > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces > either. > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which > is > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. > " The > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring > the > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > ****** ****** > > ****** ***** > > ****** ***** > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Dear Shri Kaul, Good that you raised this issue. I will wish to know from you and other stalwarts about predictive astrology mention in Vedas, other than muhurta and other siginifications which are mundane in nature. Please do enlighten if any predictive astrology is mentioned in any of the Vedas. best wishes, Manoj ________________________________ Krishen <jyotirved Tue, April 20, 2010 12:29:14 AM Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down!  Shri Manoj Kumar ji, Jai Shri Ram! <I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time > 1. Is it that " Vedic astologers " are not Hindus? or 2. Is it tat " Hindu astrologers " are not " Vedic " ? 3. What is the difference between the two? Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu Astrologer would not have selected that time for launch with 4 planets in the 8th house, on a Pratipada. regards, Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ jyotirved <jyotirved@. .. <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= sz-tZEO256S2oq65 7NCON7CoTk7k7eDC DCI16uH\ GG782PH_Ts-TYyCXJoy iIcAjk7wa_ dk4LNhMTM98> > <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= n5_Kc4uEh1Y8TRrf D0fB6wRBf16pdsSs _nv4JHv\ RRZ_umyY7KgqWWNJcNs zOUbSoT6gZ7EUuQF 5lH8-FTyHpKJ3p> ; hinducalendar <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= f_NzQdpFatBPwjlk wkzMgxhSTP3aRb6r 9Jm3Q8j\ lyXYfS7Bzq09xdeQGCZ 1uF6XcB4Z- ZOrEN34QFeeoNO8Y PBYx51hlUh4> ; abhinavagupta <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= oJqRRxH6gJmgNMLr _oEFlfixewhM9Uhu l3mDAzc\ tyJF_OCBSdABu1qFB1l r7sEpZ5TD3N9FUlF _AWz5YRuaOsSTf5A z5Kw> Sun, April 18, 2010 10:30:59 PM " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! Â Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today- <http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today-> 344 Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it carefully and learn something from the same! If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than on the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not met with such dismal results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Manoj_ji, Kind of like National Health Policy and curriculum being formulated by a panel which does not contain a physician or a nurse or even compounder or alternative healer! Hopefully, the panelists have some personal experience with sickness and hospital-stay, one assumes? :-? Rohiniranjan , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Kaul, > > Good that you raised this issue. > > I will wish to know from you and other stalwarts about predictive astrology mention in Vedas, other than muhurta and other siginifications which are mundane in nature. Please do enlighten if any predictive astrology is mentioned in any of the Vedas. > > best wishes, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Krishen <jyotirved > > Tue, April 20, 2010 12:29:14 AM > Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > >  > > > Shri Manoj Kumar ji, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > <I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu > Astrologer > would not have selected that time > > > 1. Is it that " Vedic astologers " are not Hindus? or > > 2. Is it tat " Hindu astrologers " are not " Vedic " ? > > 3. What is the difference between the two? > > Jai Shri Ram! > > A K Kaul > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > Re: " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > I am not too sure about Vedic Astrologers but I am sure, any Hindu > Astrologer > would not have selected that time for launch with 4 planets in the 8th > house, on > a Pratipada. > > regards, > > Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > jyotirved <jyotirved@ .. > <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= sz-tZEO256S2oq65 7NCON7CoTk7k7eDC DCI16uH\ > GG782PH_Ts-TYyCXJoy iIcAjk7wa_ dk4LNhMTM98> > > > <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= n5_Kc4uEh1Y8TRrf D0fB6wRBf16pdsSs _nv4JHv\ > RRZ_umyY7KgqWWNJcNs zOUbSoT6gZ7EUuQF 5lH8-FTyHpKJ3p> ; > hinducalendar > <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= f_NzQdpFatBPwjlk wkzMgxhSTP3aRb6r 9Jm3Q8j\ > lyXYfS7Bzq09xdeQGCZ 1uF6XcB4Z- ZOrEN34QFeeoNO8Y PBYx51hlUh4> ; > abhinavagupta > <JyotishGrou p/post?postID= oJqRRxH6gJmgNMLr _oEFlfixewhM9Uhu l3mDAzc\ > tyJF_OCBSdABu1qFB1l r7sEpZ5TD3N9FUlF _AWz5YRuaOsSTf5A z5Kw> > Sun, April 18, 2010 10:30:59 PM > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > > Â > Dear friends, > > Jai Shri Ram! > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today- > <http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/country%E2%80%99s-gslv-launch-today-> > 344 > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > carefully and learn something from the same! > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen > than on > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not > met > with such dismal results! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in " The Holy Science " of 1894? RR_, , Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaskaar All > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems in > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic Astrology. How is > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the time was > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does he have > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers subverted the > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - type a > long response without thinking. > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and are the > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge or > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion in his > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his calendar is > the correct one? > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain so much > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A man who > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be highly > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical trials and > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION eating away > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up enforcing that > > :-) > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may STOP, food > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if distributed > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding some > > decent Astrological research! > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > <%40>, > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > Â > > > -Utkal > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > > > <%40>, > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% 80%99s-gslv- > > launch-today- > > > 344 > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than > > on > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not > > met > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody > > must > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more > > a > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane > > (sic!) > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those > > " Vedic > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be > > allowed > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able > > to > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > celebrate > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras > > instead > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > ******* ******* > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces > > either. > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which > > is > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. > > " The > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring > > the > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > ****** ***** > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Small corection hope you dont mind;Yukteswar Giri is not paramahamsa but the guru of Parama hamsa yogananda!! The title of Paramamahamsa is to be given by one's own Guru.Sriyukteswar Giri gave it to Swami yogananda.These days many paramahamsas are APPEARING and GOD only knows who gave them the title!!!! Love and regards, gopi. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in " The Holy Science " of 1894? > > RR_, > > > > , Bharat - Hindu Astrology astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems in > > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic Astrology. How is > > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the time was > > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does he have > > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers subverted the > > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - type a > > long response without thinking. > > > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and are the > > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge or > > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion in his > > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his calendar is > > the correct one? > > > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain so much > > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A man who > > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be highly > > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical trials and > > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION eating away > > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up enforcing that > > > :-) > > > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may STOP, food > > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if distributed > > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding some > > > decent Astrological research! > > > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > > > <%40>, > > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make wrong > > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > > Â > > > > -Utkal > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 down! > > > > <%40>, > > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, from > > > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% 80%99s-gslv- > > > launch-today- > > > > 344 > > > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must read it > > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their acumen than > > > on > > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly have not > > > met > > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most " heartening " > > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the NDA > > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As everybody > > > must > > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who was a > > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was actually more > > > a > > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the declaration of > > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to town with > > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is history, > > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has not been > > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the sane > > > (sic!) > > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- in spite > > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which he had > > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince assassinated his > > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic astrologers " had > > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry his > > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, those > > > " Vedic > > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down just as they > > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising that if the > > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the consequences > > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should not be > > > allowed > > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were thus able > > > to > > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the world! > > > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > > celebrate > > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. shastras > > > instead > > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our dharma so > > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do so " ! > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > > ******* ******* > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have chosen an > > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's first > > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of the day, > > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish Dhavan > > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 pm. > > > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed the > > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission but > > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic forces > > > either. > > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there is no > > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said Mr Asir > > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit which > > > is > > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. Satish. > > > " The > > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds after the > > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely monitoring > > > the > > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was fully > > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > ****** ***** > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Whatever! I thought I read that somewhere that he was addressed as paramahamsa etc... Good thing it was a " minor' matter that you corrected. And were not trying to make a BIG DEAL out of such matters irrelevant to this posting or thread ;-) RR_, , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Small corection hope you dont mind;Yukteswar Giri is not paramahamsa but > the guru of Parama hamsa yogananda!! > The title of Paramamahamsa is to be given by one's own Guru.Sriyukteswar > Giri gave it to Swami yogananda.These days many paramahamsas are > APPEARING and GOD only knows who gave them the title!!!! > Love and regards, > gopi. > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > wrote: > > > > I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical > books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in > " The Holy Science " of 1894? > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Bharat - Hindu Astrology > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems > in > > > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic > Astrology. How is > > > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the > time was > > > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does > he have > > > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers > subverted the > > > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - > type a > > > long response without thinking. > > > > > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and > are the > > > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge > or > > > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > > > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion > in his > > > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his > calendar is > > > the correct one? > > > > > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain > so much > > > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A > man who > > > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be > highly > > > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical > trials and > > > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION > eating away > > > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up > enforcing that > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may > STOP, food > > > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if > distributed > > > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding > some > > > > decent Astrological research! > > > > > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make > wrong > > > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > > > Â > > > > > -Utkal > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 > down! > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, > from > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% > 80%99s-gslv- > > > > launch-today- > > > > > 344 > > > > > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must > read it > > > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their > acumen than > > > > on > > > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly > have not > > > > met > > > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most > " heartening " > > > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the > NDA > > > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As > everybody > > > > must > > > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who > was a > > > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was > actually more > > > > a > > > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the > declaration of > > > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to > town with > > > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is > history, > > > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has > not been > > > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the > sane > > > > (sic!) > > > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- > in spite > > > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which > he had > > > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince > assassinated his > > > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic > astrologers " had > > > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry > his > > > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, > those > > > > " Vedic > > > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down > just as they > > > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising > that if the > > > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the > consequences > > > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should > not be > > > > allowed > > > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were > thus able > > > > to > > > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the > world! > > > > > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > > > celebrate > > > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. > shastras > > > > instead > > > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our > dharma so > > > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do > so " ! > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > > > ******* ******* > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have > chosen an > > > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's > first > > > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of > the day, > > > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish > Dhavan > > > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 > pm. > > > > > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed > the > > > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission > but > > > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic > forces > > > > either. > > > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there > is no > > > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said > Mr Asir > > > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer > Orbit which > > > > is > > > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. > Satish. > > > > " The > > > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds > after the > > > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely > monitoring > > > > the > > > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was > fully > > > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Dear sirs, I have not read the Holy Science. I have only come to know that it proposes the ayan cycle or equinoctial cycle of 24000 years as making the mahayuga of satya, treta, dwapar and kali. Having done more researches on the subject, I am ready to comment on it, after I come to know more about the contents.My new proposal is that the cycle is actually one kalpa or Brahma's day rather than the mahayuga. Having read Parahamsa's negative comments on astrology and his guru's positive opinion,I feel both are partially right. They did seem to have opposing opinions, at least, in the beginning.But I support them both on one issue- namely that astrology is more for the vision and experience of the true universal or cosmic form of God (rather than to set our destiny here on earth). In fact Astrology is more for the transcending of the earthly fields and forces with the help of the knowledge of the planets and stars like the sun, moon and the nakshatras(rashis included). Regards, Hari Malla , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Whatever! I thought I read that somewhere that he was addressed as paramahamsa etc... > > Good thing it was a " minor' matter that you corrected. And were not trying to make a BIG DEAL out of such matters irrelevant to this posting or thread ;-) > > RR_, > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > Small corection hope you dont mind;Yukteswar Giri is not paramahamsa but > > the guru of Parama hamsa yogananda!! > > The title of Paramamahamsa is to be given by one's own Guru.Sriyukteswar > > Giri gave it to Swami yogananda.These days many paramahamsas are > > APPEARING and GOD only knows who gave them the title!!!! > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical > > books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in > > " The Holy Science " of 1894? > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Bharat - Hindu Astrology > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems > > in > > > > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic > > Astrology. How is > > > > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the > > time was > > > > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does > > he have > > > > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers > > subverted the > > > > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - > > type a > > > > long response without thinking. > > > > > > > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and > > are the > > > > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge > > or > > > > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > > > > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion > > in his > > > > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his > > calendar is > > > > the correct one? > > > > > > > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain > > so much > > > > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A > > man who > > > > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be > > highly > > > > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical > > trials and > > > > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION > > eating away > > > > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up > > enforcing that > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > > > > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may > > STOP, food > > > > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if > > distributed > > > > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding > > some > > > > > decent Astrological research! > > > > > > > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make > > wrong > > > > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > > > > Â > > > > > > -Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 > > down! > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > > > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% > > 80%99s-gslv- > > > > > launch-today- > > > > > > 344 > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must > > read it > > > > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their > > acumen than > > > > > on > > > > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly > > have not > > > > > met > > > > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most > > " heartening " > > > > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the > > NDA > > > > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As > > everybody > > > > > must > > > > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who > > was a > > > > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was > > actually more > > > > > a > > > > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the > > declaration of > > > > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to > > town with > > > > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is > > history, > > > > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has > > not been > > > > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the > > sane > > > > > (sic!) > > > > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- > > in spite > > > > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which > > he had > > > > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince > > assassinated his > > > > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic > > astrologers " had > > > > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry > > his > > > > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, > > those > > > > > " Vedic > > > > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down > > just as they > > > > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising > > that if the > > > > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the > > consequences > > > > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should > > not be > > > > > allowed > > > > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were > > thus able > > > > > to > > > > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the > > world! > > > > > > > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > > > > celebrate > > > > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. > > shastras > > > > > instead > > > > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our > > dharma so > > > > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do > > so " ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > > > > ******* ******* > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have > > chosen an > > > > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's > > first > > > > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of > > the day, > > > > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish > > Dhavan > > > > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 > > pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed > > the > > > > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission > > but > > > > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic > > forces > > > > > either. > > > > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there > > is no > > > > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said > > Mr Asir > > > > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer > > Orbit which > > > > > is > > > > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. > > Satish. > > > > > " The > > > > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds > > after the > > > > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely > > monitoring > > > > > the > > > > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was > > fully > > > > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Mr. Malla, You have not read it (Holy Science)... But yet you are " ready to comment " on it 'once you have read it'! What is more important? READING or COMMENTING? That motivates modern intellectuals? And even before you have studied it you have a proposal already about how the Yugas should roll! Your message says a lot if not it all, about modern thoughts and approaches towards Jyotish and its astronomical basis! I am disappointed but not surprised!! Rohiniranjan , " hari " <harimalla wrote: > > > Dear sirs, > I have not read the Holy Science. I have only come to know that it proposes the ayan cycle or equinoctial cycle of 24000 years as making the mahayuga of satya, treta, dwapar and kali. Having done more researches on the subject, I am ready to comment on it, after I come to know more about the contents.My new proposal is that the cycle is actually one kalpa or Brahma's day rather than the mahayuga. > Having read Parahamsa's negative comments on astrology and his guru's positive opinion,I feel both are partially right. They did seem to have opposing opinions, at least, in the beginning.But I support them both on one issue- namely that astrology is more for the vision and experience of the true universal or cosmic form of God (rather than to set our destiny here on earth). In fact Astrology is more for the transcending of the earthly fields and forces with the help of the knowledge of the planets and stars like the sun, moon and the nakshatras(rashis included). > Regards, > Hari Malla > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Whatever! I thought I read that somewhere that he was addressed as paramahamsa etc... > > > > Good thing it was a " minor' matter that you corrected. And were not trying to make a BIG DEAL out of such matters irrelevant to this posting or thread ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > Small corection hope you dont mind;Yukteswar Giri is not paramahamsa but > > > the guru of Parama hamsa yogananda!! > > > The title of Paramamahamsa is to be given by one's own Guru.Sriyukteswar > > > Giri gave it to Swami yogananda.These days many paramahamsas are > > > APPEARING and GOD only knows who gave them the title!!!! > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical > > > books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in > > > " The Holy Science " of 1894? > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Bharat - Hindu Astrology > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems > > > in > > > > > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic > > > Astrology. How is > > > > > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the > > > time was > > > > > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does > > > he have > > > > > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers > > > subverted the > > > > > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - > > > type a > > > > > long response without thinking. > > > > > > > > > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and > > > are the > > > > > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge > > > or > > > > > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > > > > > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion > > > in his > > > > > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his > > > calendar is > > > > > the correct one? > > > > > > > > > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain > > > so much > > > > > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A > > > man who > > > > > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be > > > highly > > > > > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical > > > trials and > > > > > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION > > > eating away > > > > > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up > > > enforcing that > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may > > > STOP, food > > > > > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if > > > distributed > > > > > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding > > > some > > > > > > decent Astrological research! > > > > > > > > > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make > > > wrong > > > > > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > -Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > > > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 > > > down! > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > > > > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > > > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% > > > 80%99s-gslv- > > > > > > launch-today- > > > > > > > 344 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must > > > read it > > > > > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their > > > acumen than > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly > > > have not > > > > > > met > > > > > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most > > > " heartening " > > > > > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the > > > NDA > > > > > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As > > > everybody > > > > > > must > > > > > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who > > > was a > > > > > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was > > > actually more > > > > > > a > > > > > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the > > > declaration of > > > > > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to > > > town with > > > > > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is > > > history, > > > > > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has > > > not been > > > > > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the > > > sane > > > > > > (sic!) > > > > > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > > > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- > > > in spite > > > > > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which > > > he had > > > > > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > > > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince > > > assassinated his > > > > > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic > > > astrologers " had > > > > > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry > > > his > > > > > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, > > > those > > > > > > " Vedic > > > > > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down > > > just as they > > > > > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising > > > that if the > > > > > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the > > > consequences > > > > > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should > > > not be > > > > > > allowed > > > > > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were > > > thus able > > > > > > to > > > > > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the > > > world! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > > > > > celebrate > > > > > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. > > > shastras > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our > > > dharma so > > > > > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do > > > so " ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > > > > > ******* ******* > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have > > > chosen an > > > > > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's > > > first > > > > > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of > > > the day, > > > > > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish > > > Dhavan > > > > > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 > > > pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed > > > the > > > > > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission > > > but > > > > > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic > > > forces > > > > > > either. > > > > > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there > > > is no > > > > > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said > > > Mr Asir > > > > > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > > > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer > > > Orbit which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. > > > Satish. > > > > > > " The > > > > > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds > > > after the > > > > > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely > > > monitoring > > > > > > the > > > > > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was > > > fully > > > > > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jyotish is Vedanga, a Pratyakscha Vidya, It enables one to see the results of karmas, but, maya still covers the consciousnessof Jyotishish otherwise why jyotishis do lot's of bad karma in groups, they distort the facts, they do mud slinging, pass rahu like comments etc.. Our classics even having information about Nakshatra positions when planets (Jup, Mars, Saturn etc) are created. Any ways, good to know that you understood following, this is essence - " In fact Astrology is more for the transcending of the earthly fields and forces with the help of the knowledge of the planets and stars like the sun, moon and the nakshatras(rashis included) " Utkal Panigrahi , " hari " <harimalla wrote: > > > Dear sirs, > I have not read the Holy Science. I have only come to know that it proposes the ayan cycle or equinoctial cycle of 24000 years as making the mahayuga of satya, treta, dwapar and kali. Having done more researches on the subject, I am ready to comment on it, after I come to know more about the contents.My new proposal is that the cycle is actually one kalpa or Brahma's day rather than the mahayuga. > Having read Parahamsa's negative comments on astrology and his guru's positive opinion,I feel both are partially right. They did seem to have opposing opinions, at least, in the beginning.But I support them both on one issue- namely that astrology is more for the vision and experience of the true universal or cosmic form of God (rather than to set our destiny here on earth). In fact Astrology is more for the transcending of the earthly fields and forces with the help of the knowledge of the planets and stars like the sun, moon and the nakshatras(rashis included). > Regards, > Hari Malla > > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > Whatever! I thought I read that somewhere that he was addressed as paramahamsa etc... > > > > Good thing it was a " minor' matter that you corrected. And were not trying to make a BIG DEAL out of such matters irrelevant to this posting or thread ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > Small corection hope you dont mind;Yukteswar Giri is not paramahamsa but > > > the guru of Parama hamsa yogananda!! > > > The title of Paramamahamsa is to be given by one's own Guru.Sriyukteswar > > > Giri gave it to Swami yogananda.These days many paramahamsas are > > > APPEARING and GOD only knows who gave them the title!!!! > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder which ayanamsha he follows or endorses in his astronomical > > > books as Paramahamsa Yukteshwar Giri called that genre of almanacs in > > > " The Holy Science " of 1894? > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Bharat - Hindu Astrology > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar All > > > > > > > > > > I am amazed at the nonsensical " logic " of Sri AKK. So the problems > > > in > > > > > developing the cryogenic are now being attributed to Vedic > > > Astrology. How is > > > > > Sri AKK sure that other problems would not have developed if the > > > time was > > > > > even worse? Who is he to decide it is Vedic Astrologer's doing? Does > > > he have > > > > > confirmation that the GSLV failed because Vedic Astrologers > > > subverted the > > > > > launch? Without any adequate proof he has done what he knows best - > > > type a > > > > > long response without thinking. > > > > > > > > > > He, like in many of his writings, thinks his beliefs are right and > > > are the > > > > > Truth. He does not wish or make any effort to gain deeper knowledge > > > or > > > > > wisdom. Most of his writings are vile and seemed to harp on his own > > > > > calendar. If he knows the Truth, why does he need the public opinion > > > in his > > > > > favor? Why can't he prove to the Government of India that his > > > calendar is > > > > > the correct one? > > > > > > > > > > Before attacking Vedic Astrology (yes it is VEDIC! and shall remain > > > so much > > > > > to his dismay), it would be better to first try and understand. A > > > man who > > > > > claims to know all four Vedas inside out - Sri AKK, appears to be > > > highly > > > > > arrogant and totally devoid of Viveka and Jnana. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:45 AM, rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astronomical way in which the CO$T of medicine and clinical > > > trials and > > > > > > medical re$earch is going or shall we say GROWING, and RECESSION > > > eating away > > > > > > at world-wide economy, the MIGHTY LAKSHMI DEVI_MA may end up > > > enforcing that > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > aer all, Sabsay bada Rupaiyaah, Utkal jee!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course -- the Human Race may yet gain SANITY, all wars may > > > STOP, food > > > > > > and wealth redistributed (there is enough in the world if > > > distributed > > > > > > equitably!) and perhaps there may be enough left over for funding > > > some > > > > > > decent Astrological research! > > > > > > > > > > > > OR N-O-T...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > Utkal Mishra <mishra.utkal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice writing but using similar logic many docters also make > > > wrong > > > > > > diagnosis and kill patients so ban study of medicine too? > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > -Utkal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 18/4/10, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotirved <jyotirved@> > > > > > > > " Vedic astrologers " let the GSLV-D3 > > > down! > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > hinducalendar <hinducalendar%40>, > > > > > > abhinavagupta <abhinavagupta%40> > > > > > > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is the news item of Deccan Chronicle of April 15, 2010, > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deccanch ronicle.com/ national/ country%E2% > > > 80%99s-gslv- > > > > > > launch-today- > > > > > > > 344 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody who has extraordinary faith in " Vedic astrology " must > > > read it > > > > > > > carefully and learn something from the same! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Engineers/scientist s at ISRO had relied more on their > > > acumen than > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the " good advice " of " Vedic astrologers " , they would certainly > > > have not > > > > > > met > > > > > > > with such dismal results! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be worthwhile to enumerate here some of the most > > > " heartening " > > > > > > > results of relying on " Vedic astrology " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The General Elections were advanced by several months by the > > > NDA > > > > > > > government in 2004 on the advice of " Vedic astrologers " . As > > > everybody > > > > > > must > > > > > > > be aware, the then Minister of Human Resources Development, who > > > was a > > > > > > > retired Professor of Physics from Allahabad University, was > > > actually more > > > > > > a > > > > > > > Minister for " Vedic astrology " . Even on the day of the > > > declaration of > > > > > > > results of 2004 General Elections, all the papers had gone to > > > town with > > > > > > > headlines, " Come what may, Vajpayee will be the PM " . The rest is > > > history, > > > > > > > since poor A B Vajpayeeji has been bedridden ever since, and has > > > not been > > > > > > > able to overcome the shock of the " good results of heeding the > > > sane > > > > > > (sic!) > > > > > > > advice of Vedic astrologers " . > > > > > > > 2. The " Minister of astrology " lost his seat from Allahabad--- > > > in spite > > > > > > > of his best Dasha-bhukti and gochara, on the strength of which > > > he had > > > > > > > advised the advancing of Elections! > > > > > > > 3. Then in the neighbouring country the crown prince > > > assassinated his > > > > > > > parents, the then king and queen, only because " Vedic > > > astrologers " had > > > > > > > advised them that they must not allow the crown prince to marry > > > his > > > > > > > sweet-heart since their birth charts did not match! Obviously, > > > those > > > > > > " Vedic > > > > > > > astrologers " must have read the birth-charts too upside down > > > just as they > > > > > > > read the dharmashastras upside down! i.e. instead of advising > > > that if the > > > > > > > crown-prince was not allowed to marry his sweet heart, the > > > consequences > > > > > > > would be disastrous for everybody they advised that he should > > > not be > > > > > > allowed > > > > > > > to marry her! In an indirect manner, " Vedic astrologers " were > > > thus able > > > > > > to > > > > > > > decimate the only Hindu kingdom around in the whole of the > > > world! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No wonder, they are hell-bent on ruining our dharma by making us > > > > > > celebrate > > > > > > > all our festivals and muhurtas as per Lahiri or Ramana etc. > > > shastras > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > of the Vedas or the Puranas---nay even the Siddhantas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why I keep on repeating, " we do not enemies to ruin our > > > dharma so > > > > > > > long as we have our friendly 'Vedic astrologers' around to do > > > so " ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Ram! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A K Kaul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***** ****** > > > > > > > ******* ******* > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, April 14: The scientists of the Isro seemed to have > > > chosen an > > > > > > > astrologically auspicious time for the launch of the country's > > > first > > > > > > > indigenous GeoSynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle on Thursday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu, Gulika and Yama Kandaka, the three inauspicious phases of > > > the day, > > > > > > > will be over by 3 pm and the GSLV will blast off from the Satish > > > Dhavan > > > > > > > Space Centre in Sriharikota, the country's space port, at 4.27 > > > pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists of the Liquid Propulsion System Centre who developed > > > the > > > > > > > cryogenic engine are confident about the success of the mission > > > but > > > > > > > apparently they don't want to take chances with other cosmic > > > forces > > > > > > either. > > > > > > > Hence the astrological precautions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The ground test of the cryogenic state was successful and there > > > is no > > > > > > > reason to have any doubt about the success of the flight,' said > > > Mr Asir > > > > > > > Packiaraj of the LPSC. The GSLV-3D will carry with it GSAT-4, a > > > > > > > communication satellite weighing 2,220 Kg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It will put the satellite into the Geosynchronous Transfer > > > Orbit which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > 35, 975 km away from the earth, " said the Isro spokesman, Mr S. > > > Satish. > > > > > > " The > > > > > > > satellite will be ejected into the orbit exactly 1,022 seconds > > > after the > > > > > > > launch. " Space scientists all over the world will be closely > > > monitoring > > > > > > the > > > > > > > launch of GSLV-D3 because of the Indian built cryogenic engine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This cryogenic engine that uses hydrogen and oxygen as fuel was > > > fully > > > > > > > developed by Indian scientists, " said Mr Satish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****** ****** > > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > ****** ***** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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