Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks G.Subramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I am attaching a copy of the horoscope generated for this time for the information of the n\members. She is a Nurse in govt. service and she got married a widower on 20th March 1995.I am furnising these details as they may serve to pinpoint the time of birth. G.Subramanian--- On Thu, 1/29/09, G.Subramanian <gurusubra wrote: G.Subramanian <gurusubra BTR - Help requested Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 11:16 PM One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. 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New;width:311px;Z-INDEX: 105; LEFT: 12px; TOP: 645px " ><pre>System : Krishnamurthy Ayanamsa: 23° 12' 05 " <br>Name : S.Kameswari<br>Place : Tirukoyilur<br>Date : 12-4-1960 Tuesday<br>Time : 00-00-40<br>Longitude : 079-15-00 East<br>Latitude : 011-58-00 North<br>Zone : IST 5.5<br>Settings : Universal Time<br>Sid.Time : 13° 7' 33 " <br>Latitude : Geographic<br>Cusp System: Placidus<br></pre><p /></span> </p> <p> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & n\ bsp; </p> <p> <table title= " You may click Back button of the Browser to return to the the Form Page " cellspacing= " 2 " cellpadding= " 3 " rules= " all " bordercolor= " #DEBA84 " border= " 1 " id= " DataGrid1 " style= " background-color:#DEBA84;border-color:#DEBA84;border-width:1px;border-sty\ le:None;width:650px;Z-INDEX: 102 " > <tr style= " color:White;background-color:#A55129;font-weight:bold; " > <td>Planet</td><td>Longitude</td><td>Star</td><td>Pada</td><td>KP Pointer</td><td>House</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Sun</td><td> 28° Pi 39' 54.3847 " </td><td>Revati</td><td>4</td><td>Jup-Mer-Sat-Ven</td><td>4</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Mercury</td><td> 1° Pi 23' 20.5605 " </td><td>Poorva Bhadra</td><td>4</td><td>Jup-Jup-Rah-Rah</td><td>3</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Venus</td><td> 9° Pi 40' 6.7046 " </td><td>Utra Bhadra</td><td>2</td><td>Jup-Sat-Ven-Sat</td><td>3</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Moon</td><td> 27° Vi 35' 51.8823 " </td><td>Chitra </td><td>2</td><td>Mer-Mar-Jup-Mar</td><td>10</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Mars</td><td> 14° Aq 7' 31.1198 " </td><td>Sathabhishak</td><td>3</td><td>Sat-Rah-Mer-Jup</td><td>2</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Jupiter</td><td> 10° Sa 18' 9.2043 " </td><td>Moola</td><td>4</td><td>Jup-Ket-Sat-Ven</td><td>12</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Saturn</td><td> 25° Sa 1' 21.7594 " </td><td>Poorvashada</td><td>4</td><td>Jup-Ven-Mer-Mar</td><td>1</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Uranus (Retro.)</td><td> 23° Cn 47' 54.773 " </td><td>Aslesha</td><td>3</td><td>Moo-Mer-Mar-Mer</td><td>8</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Neptune (Retro.)</td><td> 15° Li 0' 35.2764 " </td><td>Swati </td><td>3</td><td>Ven-Rah-Ket-Sat</td><td>10</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Pluto (Retro.)</td><td> 10° Le 39' 10.367 " </td><td>Makha</td><td>4</td><td>Sun-Ket-Sat-Moo</td><td>8</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Rahu</td><td> 0° Vi 8' 3.7539 " </td><td>Utra Phalguni</td><td>2</td><td>Mer-Sun-Rah-Mer</td><td>9</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Ketu</td><td> 0° Pi 8' 3.7539 " </td><td>Poorva Bhadra</td><td>4</td><td>Jup-Jup-Moo-Mer</td><td>3</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#8C4510;background-color:#FFF7E7; " > <td>Lagna</td><td> 17° Sa 34' 38.1385 " </td><td>Poorvashada</td><td>2</td><td>Jup-Ven-Mar-Jup</td><td>1</td> </tr> </table> </p> <p> <br /> <br /> <br /> </p> <p> <br /> <br /> <br /> </p> <p> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </p> <p> <table cellspacing= " 0 " cellpadding= " 4 " rules= " all " bordercolor= " #CC9966 " border= " 1 " id= " DataGrid2 " style= " background-color:White;border-color:#CC9966;border-width:1px;border-style\ :None;width:600px;border-collapse:collapse;Z-INDEX: 102 " > <tr style= " color:#FFFFCC;background-color:#990000;font-weight:bold; " > <td>Cusps</td><td>Longitude</td><td>Star</td><td>KP Pointer</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>I</td><td> 17° Sa 34' 38.1385 " </td><td>Poorvashada</td><td>Jup-Ven-Mar-Jup</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>II</td><td> 18° Cp 42' 39.9533 " </td><td>Shravana</td><td>Sat-Moo-Mer-Moo</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>III</td><td> 22° Aq 6' 28.3677 " </td><td>Poorva Bhadra</td><td>Sat-Jup-Sat-Sat</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>IV</td><td> 25° Pi 6' 24.0261 " </td><td>Revati</td><td>Jup-Mer-Rah-Mer</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>V</td><td> 24° Ar 53' 28.9831 " </td><td>Bharani</td><td>Mar-Ven-Mer-Moo</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>VI</td><td> 21° Ta 36' 33.3741 " </td><td>Rohini</td><td>Ven-Moo-Ven-Jup</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>VII</td><td> 17° Ge 34' 38.1385 " </td><td>Ardhra</td><td>Mer-Rah-Sun-Rah</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>VIII</td><td> 18° Cn 42' 39.9533 " </td><td>Aslesha</td><td>Moo-Mer-Ket-Ven</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>IX</td><td> 22° Le 6' 28.3677 " </td><td>Poorva Phalguni</td><td>Sun-Ven-Sat-Sat</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>X</td><td> 25° Vi 6' 24.0261 " </td><td>Chitra </td><td>Mer-Mar-Rah-Mer</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>XI</td><td> 24° Li 53' 28.9831 " </td><td>Vishakha</td><td>Ven-Jup-Mer-Mar</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>XII</td><td> 21° Sc 36' 33.3741 " </td><td>Jyeshta</td><td>Mar-Mer-Sun-Moo</td> </tr><tr style= " color:#330099;background-color:White; " > <td>Fortuna</td><td> 16° Ge 30' 35.6361 " </td><td>Ardhra</td><td>Mer-Rah-Ven-Jup</td> </tr> </table> </p> <p> <span id= " Data2 " style= " font-family:Courier New;width:311px;Z-INDEX: 105; LEFT: 12px; TOP: 645px " ><pre>Sun Rise/Set Upper Ray : 6 - 3 - 05 | 6 - 24 - 45<br>Sun Rise/Set Lower Ray : 6 - 6 - 31 | 6 - 21 - 18<br>Lagna : Dhanur Poorvashada 2<br>Birth Rasi (Moon Sign) : Kanya<p />Birth Star (Nakshatra) : Chitra 2<p />Lunar Half (Paksha) : Sukla Paksha (Growing Phase)<p />Lunar Day (Thithi) : Pournami 15<p />Yoga : Harshanam<p />Karana : Bavam<p />Dasa at DOB / DOQ : Mars<p />Dasa Balance : 4 Y:9 M:8 D<br>Bhukti at DOB / DOQ : Jupiter<p />Bhukti Balance : 0 Y:1 M:26 D<p />Current Date : 1/29/2009<br>Current Dasa running : Sat-Sun-Moo<p /> : Saturn Dasa upto: 16-Jan-2018<p /> : Sun Bhukti upto: 20-Dec-2009<p /> : Moon Antara upto: 22-Feb-2009<p /></span> </p> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <div align= " left " > <table border= " 1 " width= " 409 " height= " 354 " id= " CF " > <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Sun Mer Ven Ket </font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Mar </font></td> <td width= " 204 " height= " 177 " colspan= " 2 " rowspan= " 2 " > <p align= " center " ><b><font color= " #008000 " >Rasi Chakra</b></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Ura ® </font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Plu ® </font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Jup Sat Lag </font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Nep ® </font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Moo Rah </font></td> </tr> </table> </div> <p> <div align= " left " > <table border= " 1 " width= " 409 " height= " 354 " id= " CF " > <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Sun </font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Mar Ura Nep </font></td> <td width= " 204 " height= " 177 " colspan= " 2 " rowspan= " 2 " > <p align= " center " ><b><font color= " #008000 " >Navamsa Chakra</b></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 88 " ><font size= " 2 " >Mer Jup Plu Ket </font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Rah </font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Sat </font></td> <td width= " 101 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >---</font></td> <td width= " 102 " height= " 89 " ><font size= " 2 " >Ven Moo Lag </font></td> </tr> </table> </div> </p> <hr /> <p> <table> <tbody> <tr> <td> <a id= " Astraura " href= " 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Mr.Subramaniam, I am pleased to inform you that the exact Time of Birth works out to : 00,00,16 A.M., on 12-04-1960...(used K.P.Ayanamsa only) Such that, the Ascendant sub-lord and sub-sub-lord, Mars & Jupiter, appear as the Moon's star lord and sublord respectively... ! I hope I have been able to help you out... With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! G.Subramanian <gurusubra Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2009 11:08:08 AMRe: BTR - Help requested I am attaching a copy of the horoscope generated for this time for the information of the n\members. She is a Nurse in govt. service and she got married a widower on 20th March 1995.I am furnising these details as they may serve to pinpoint the time of birth. G.Subramanian--- On Thu, 1/29/09, G.Subramanian <gurusubra > wrote: G.Subramanian <gurusubra > BTR - Help requested@gro ups.comThursday, January 29, 2009, 11:16 PM One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks G.Subramanian Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Subramanian Whether the time of events match with your corrected birth time. Time of events like marriage, profession, child birth, education, disease, accident if any, etc. Dhanabaln.--- On Fri, 1/30/09, G.Subramanian <gurusubra wrote: G.Subramanian <gurusubra BTR - Help requested Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 5:16 AM One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks G.Subramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Friends,Rao ji has found the BT as 00.00.16 am on 12.04.1960.Native has got married a widower. For such marriage Rah should be the Sub of 7th, tenanting in Mithuna or Meena signifying 2 and 7 and with the aspect of Sat, according to KP. Further the native is a nurse in the service of hospital.Both of these events should be indicated with the BT founded with any rule/s.Pl. clarify for the betterment of the juniors.For the attention of Rao ji and SeniorsSunaparanthaDhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:27:48 PMRe: BTR - Help requested Dear Subramanian Whether the time of events match with your corrected birth time. Time of events like marriage, profession, child birth, education, disease, accident if any, etc. Dhanabaln.--- On Fri, 1/30/09, G.Subramanian <gurusubra > wrote: G.Subramanian <gurusubra > BTR - Help requested@gro ups.comFriday, January 30, 2009, 5:16 AM One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks G.Subramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Shri.Dhanabalan, I am immensely grateful to you for your prompt reply to my doubt. Yes, the main events in her life justify the time arrived at and so I presume that it can be safely taken as her birthtime. Thanks once again G.Subramanian--- On Fri, 1/30/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: BTR - Help requested Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 6:57 AM Dear Subramanian Whether the time of events match with your corrected birth time. Time of events like marriage, profession, child birth, education, disease, accident if any, etc. Dhanabaln.--- On Fri, 1/30/09, G.Subramanian <gurusubra > wrote: G.Subramanian <gurusubra > BTR - Help requested@gro ups.comFriday, January 30, 2009, 5:16 AM One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks G.Subramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi Mr. Subramanian After verifying with the Ruling planets I too came to the conclusion that the timing you have calculated is correct and finally the date is 12/04/1960 and the rectified birth time is 00.00.40am(i.e. forty seconds after midnight). and the Star is Chitra-2nd pada GOOD LUCK.... From Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v , " G.Subramanian " <gurusubra wrote: > > One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight > and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 > 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks > G.Subramanian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Mr. Subramanian Dear friend, You have forgotten to mention the time of rectification of birth or otherwise why and how you reached the time of birth i.e. 00.00.40 am will not be identified. As far as the difference of one or two days when day is not confirmed there will not be much difference in ascedent. Birth time rectification means ascendent sub lord and ascendent sub sub lord must come in the ruling planets with strength means (1)Lagna Star (2) Lagna Lord (3) Moon Star lord (4) Moon sign lord and (5) day lord. All have been arranged in decending manner. means (1) is powerful than 2, 2 is powerful that 3, 3 is powerful than 4 and 4 is powerful than 5. In regular practice, some times natal moon sign lord, moon star lord also comes in the ruling planets but it will not always. and for the period of not less than 10 minutes even for fast moving planets sub or sub sub will not move to next one. and if we consider only ruling planets strengthwise to match moon star or moon sign or moon sub some times rectified time becomes atleast 20 to 30 minutes ahed of reported time of birth. But this is not the case in now a days. If you go through the principles given by KSK for this, he had given examples of rectification of birth time with traditional astrological rules and rejected that derived time of rectified birth time as reported time of birth and derived time of birth is having much difference and in reality that will not be accepted. Please consider this thing in mind while BTR any horoscope. Another point I am to mention here is that when any astrologer is having doubt about his efficacy in rectifying the time of birth, he should not take it to do. Because when we take ruling planets and will not derive correct time of birth due to the confusions of rules in our mind, and at last what rule we apply may or may not the correct time of birth of the jataka. Hence, before taking any horoscope for rectification, get confirmed your views and rules and then only you go for BTR. Because so many authors, astrologers have given different rules for BTR. The rule/rules they have mentioned may have given him the correct birth time for the particular horoscope, but in majority of cases, it can not be said that only rule will be made applicable and the BTR arrived with the application of that rule will be the appropriate and correct. Then the results will be more than expectation and that will not be challenged by any person as planet never lies and especially ruling planets never lie. Wish you Happy and prosperous new year. Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, India Cel No. +91 9422582853/+91 9673746303 email : guide_vijayanand On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:58:12 +0530 wrote > Hi Mr. Subramanian After verifying with the Ruling planets I too came to the conclusion that the timing you have calculated is correct and finally the date is 12/04/1960 and the rectified birth time is 00.00.40am(i.e. forty seconds after midnight). and the Star is Chitra-2nd pada GOOD LUCK.... From Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v , "G.Subramanian" wrote: > > One of my relatives approached me with a request to asertain astrologically her correct birth time. She said that she was born on 11th or 12th of April 1960 around 12 midnight > and her star (as stated by her mother) is Chithrai. The place of Birth is Tirukoyilur, 79E15 > 11N58. I attempted to solve this problem and arrived at the correct birth time as 00-00-40(40 seconds after midnight) on 12-4-1960. For this time the lagna sublord and subsub lord tally with the moon star lord and sublord. I request our forum members to tackle this case and confirm whether my timing is accurate or not. Thanks >                                                                                 G.Subramanian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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