Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

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Dear friends and Mr Rath,

i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie

'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house

matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signified

I checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did

not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who

signifies 2.

If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant

cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the

rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.

This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrong

regards

Sujata

 

 

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Respected Sujata Madam

 

Refer your chart:--

 

Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77-13-0 East Latitude:28-39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16"

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cu

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

 

Pla

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

I

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Ma-Me-Ra-Ma

 

Sun

 

21° Ar 14' 58

 

Bharani

 

Mar-Ven-Jup-Ven

 

 

II

 

28° Sa 27' 49

 

Utrashada

 

Ju-Su-Mar-Ma

 

Mer

 

5° Ta 11' 32

 

Krittika

 

Ven-Sun-Mer-Mer

 

 

III

 

4° Aq 4' 8

 

Dhanishta

 

Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju

 

Ven

 

20° Pi 7' 5

 

Revati

 

Jup-Mer-Ven-Mar

 

 

IV

 

8° Pi 44' 16

 

U Bhadra

 

Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

 

Mon

 

7° Li 23' 22

 

Swati

 

Ven-Rah-Rah-Sat

 

 

V

 

8° Ar 30' 41

 

Aswini

 

Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve

 

Mar

 

23° Ta 5' 50

 

Mrigasira

 

Ven-Mar-Mar-Rah

 

 

VI

 

3° Ta 29' 23

 

Krittika

 

Ve-Su-Sat-Me

 

Jup

 

0° Cn 23' 53

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Moo-Ven

 

 

VII

 

26° Ta 6' 33

 

Mrigasiras

 

Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma

 

Sat®

 

25° Li 0' 34

 

Vishakha

 

Ven-Jup-Mer-Rah

 

 

VIII

 

28° Ge 27' 49

 

Punarvasu

 

Me-Ju-Ve-Me

 

Ura

 

0° Cn 58' 9

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Mar-Mer

 

 

IX

 

4° Le 4' 8

 

Makha

 

Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

 

Nep®

 

3° Li 15' 24

 

Chitra

 

Ven-Mar-Ven-Moo

 

 

X

 

8° Vi 44' 16

 

U Phalgun

 

Me-Su-Ve-Ra

 

Plu®

 

1° Le 9' 46

 

Makha

 

Sun-Ket-Ven-Sun

 

 

XI

 

8° Li 30' 41

 

Swati

 

Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo

 

Rah

 

5° Sa 40' 44

 

Moola

 

Jup-Ket-Rah-Rah

 

 

XII

 

3° Sc 29' 23

 

Anuradha

 

Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa

 

Ket

 

5° Ge 40' 44

 

Mrigasiras

 

Mer-Mar-Moo-Mar

 

 

Fo

 

12° Ta 14' 57

 

Rohini

 

Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju

 

Lag

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Mar-Mer-Rah-Mar

 

The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 

The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati.

 

It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts.

 

In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 

Rgds

MK Viswanath

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1 Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

 

 

Dear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

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Dear Vishy

As per Mr Subramanian's statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed

in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..

Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11

Regards

Sujata

 

--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair wrote:

MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Sujata Madam

 

Refer your chart:--

 

Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0

Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings:

Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53 " Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus

Sys: KPAY:23°  8' 16 "

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cu

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

 

Pla

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

I

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Ma-Me-Ra-Ma

 

Sun

 

21° Ar 14' 58

 

Bharani

 

Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven

 

 

II

 

28° Sa 27' 49

 

Utrashada

 

Ju-Su-Mar-Ma

 

Mer

 

5° Ta 11' 32

 

Krittika

 

Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer

 

 

III

 

4° Aq 4' 8

 

Dhanishta

 

Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju

 

Ven

 

20° Pi 7' 5

 

Revati

 

Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar

 

 

IV

 

8° Pi 44' 16

 

U Bhadra

 

Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

 

Mon

 

7° Li 23' 22

 

Swati

 

Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat

 

 

V

 

8° Ar 30' 41

 

Aswini

 

Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve

 

Mar

 

23° Ta 5' 50

 

Mrigasira

 

Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah

 

 

VI

 

3° Ta 29' 23

 

Krittika

 

Ve-Su-Sat-Me

 

Jup

 

0° Cn 23' 53

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven

 

 

VII

 

26° Ta 6' 33

 

Mrigasiras

 

Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma

 

Sat®

 

25° Li 0' 34

 

Vishakha

 

Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah

 

 

VIII

 

28° Ge 27' 49

 

Punarvasu

 

Me-Ju-Ve-Me

 

Ura

 

0° Cn 58' 9

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer

 

 

IX

 

4° Le 4' 8

 

Makha

 

Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

 

Nep®

 

3° Li 15' 24

 

Chitra

 

Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo

 

 

X

 

8° Vi 44' 16

 

U Phalgun

 

Me-Su-Ve-Ra

 

Plu®

 

1° Le 9' 46

 

Makha

 

Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun

 

 

XI

 

8° Li 30' 41

 

Swati

 

Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo

 

Rah

 

5° Sa 40' 44

 

Moola

 

Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah

 

 

XII

 

3° Sc 29' 23

 

Anuradha

 

Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa

 

Ket

 

5° Ge 40' 44

 

Mrigasiras

 

Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar

 

 

Fo

 

12° Ta 14' 57

 

Rohini

 

Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju

 

Lag

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar

 

The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed

in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In

your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 

The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star

Revati.

 

It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts.

 

In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and

10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 

Rgds

MK Viswanath

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

" kp system " <@gro ups.com>

Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends and Mr Rath,

i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie

'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.'

On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signified

I checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did

not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who

signifies 2.

If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant

cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the

rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.

This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrong

regards

Sujata

 

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Dear MK Viswanath ji

//The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.//

It is not KP. Mercury is closely conjuct with Cusp 6. Can you give any evidence in support of your statement in KP Readers.

//The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati.//

It is not KP. Can you give evidence from KP Readers.

Dhanabalan

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair wrote:

MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nairRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Sujata Madam

 

Refer your chart:--

 

Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16"

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cu

 

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

 

Pla

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

I

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Ma-Me-Ra-Ma

 

Sun

 

21° Ar 14' 58

 

Bharani

 

Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven

 

 

II

 

28° Sa 27' 49

 

Utrashada

 

Ju-Su-Mar-Ma

 

Mer

 

5° Ta 11' 32

 

Krittika

 

Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer

 

 

III

 

4° Aq 4' 8

 

Dhanishta

 

Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju

 

Ven

 

20° Pi 7' 5

 

Revati

 

Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar

 

 

IV

 

8° Pi 44' 16

 

U Bhadra

 

Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

 

Mon

 

7° Li 23' 22

 

Swati

 

Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat

 

 

V

 

8° Ar 30' 41

 

Aswini

 

Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve

 

Mar

 

23° Ta 5' 50

 

Mrigasira

 

Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah

 

 

VI

 

3° Ta 29' 23

 

Krittika

 

Ve-Su-Sat-Me

 

Jup

 

0° Cn 23' 53

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven

 

 

VII

 

26° Ta 6' 33

 

Mrigasiras

 

Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma

 

Sat®

 

25° Li 0' 34

 

Vishakha

 

Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah

 

 

VIII

 

28° Ge 27' 49

 

Punarvasu

 

Me-Ju-Ve-Me

 

Ura

 

0° Cn 58' 9

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer

 

 

IX

 

4° Le 4' 8

 

Makha

 

Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

 

Nep®

 

3° Li 15' 24

 

Chitra

 

Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo

 

 

X

 

8° Vi 44' 16

 

U Phalgun

 

Me-Su-Ve-Ra

 

Plu®

 

1° Le 9' 46

 

Makha

 

Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun

 

 

XI

 

8° Li 30' 41

 

Swati

 

Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo

 

Rah

 

5° Sa 40' 44

 

Moola

 

Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah

 

 

XII

 

3° Sc 29' 23

 

Anuradha

 

Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa

 

Ket

 

5° Ge 40' 44

 

Mrigasiras

 

Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar

 

 

Fo

 

12° Ta 14' 57

 

Rohini

 

Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju

 

Lag

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar

 

The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 

The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati.

 

It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts.

 

In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 

Rgds

MK Viswanath

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

 

 

Dear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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Dear Sujata ji

Can you give the first and second marriage dates.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 2/25/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 8:26 AM

 

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co..in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply.....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.This

may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

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By experinces, KP Astrologers take 8th house as s supplemant house Marrige.

raichur anant --- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair wrote:

MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nairRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Sujata Madam

 

Refer your chart:--

 

Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77-13-0 East Latitude:28-39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16"

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cu

 

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

 

Pla

 

Longitude

 

Star

 

KP Pointer

 

 

I

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Ma-Me-Ra-Ma

 

Sun

 

21° Ar 14' 58

 

Bharani

 

Mar-Ven-Jup-Ven

 

 

II

 

28° Sa 27' 49

 

Utrashada

 

Ju-Su-Mar-Ma

 

Mer

 

5° Ta 11' 32

 

Krittika

 

Ven-Sun-Mer-Mer

 

 

III

 

4° Aq 4' 8

 

Dhanishta

 

Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju

 

Ven

 

20° Pi 7' 5

 

Revati

 

Jup-Mer-Ven-Mar

 

 

IV

 

8° Pi 44' 16

 

U Bhadra

 

Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

 

Mon

 

7° Li 23' 22

 

Swati

 

Ven-Rah-Rah-Sat

 

 

V

 

8° Ar 30' 41

 

Aswini

 

Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve

 

Mar

 

23° Ta 5' 50

 

Mrigasira

 

Ven-Mar-Mar-Rah

 

 

VI

 

3° Ta 29' 23

 

Krittika

 

Ve-Su-Sat-Me

 

Jup

 

0° Cn 23' 53

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Moo-Ven

 

 

VII

 

26° Ta 6' 33

 

Mrigasiras

 

Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma

 

Sat®

 

25° Li 0' 34

 

Vishakha

 

Ven-Jup-Mer-Rah

 

 

VIII

 

28° Ge 27' 49

 

Punarvasu

 

Me-Ju-Ve-Me

 

Ura

 

0° Cn 58' 9

 

Punarvas

 

Moo-Jup-Mar-Mer

 

 

IX

 

4° Le 4' 8

 

Makha

 

Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

 

Nep®

 

3° Li 15' 24

 

Chitra

 

Ven-Mar-Ven-Moo

 

 

X

 

8° Vi 44' 16

 

U Phalgun

 

Me-Su-Ve-Ra

 

Plu®

 

1° Le 9' 46

 

Makha

 

Sun-Ket-Ven-Sun

 

 

XI

 

8° Li 30' 41

 

Swati

 

Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo

 

Rah

 

5° Sa 40' 44

 

Moola

 

Jup-Ket-Rah-Rah

 

 

XII

 

3° Sc 29' 23

 

Anuradha

 

Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa

 

Ket

 

5° Ge 40' 44

 

Mrigasiras

 

Mer-Mar-Moo-Mar

 

 

Fo

 

12° Ta 14' 57

 

Rohini

 

Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju

 

Lag

 

26° Sc 6' 33

 

Jyeshta

 

Mar-Mer-Rah-Mar

 

The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 

The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati.

 

It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts.

 

In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 

Rgds

MK Viswanath

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1 Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

 

 

Dear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research.This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25

February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV

8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V 8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9'

46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44 Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected

to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If

CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research..This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

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Dear Mr DhanbalanThe dates are 14-4 1979 and 26 -6 81RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 2:34 PM

 

Dear Sujata ji

Can you give the first and second marriage dates.

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 2/25/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009, 8:26 AM

 

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co..in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi

Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply......CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do

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Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath

<rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25

February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV

8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V 8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9'

46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44 Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected

to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th

CSL is ju who signifies 2.If

CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise. Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the "URGE" to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co..in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5.. 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On

checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP,Nadi,prasana,etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Cc: "sujata das" <sujatadash1Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise. Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the "URGE" to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comThursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co...in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On

checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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Dear Dhanabalan ji,Science is nothing to do with the Predictions.Since Astrology is a science, all the planetory movements and other related things are happening as per the calculations only.Medical is a science. But all the physician's diagnosis is not the same. Then , do you say that Medical is not a science?

But still a lot of research is being done every day !Since we could not reach the accuracy because of many reasons, especially our lack of experience, analysis and the support of the God (Praptham), you can not say " Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeed " .

We have to study well practically and do the necessary additions as per our experience in our KP.My humble request: your such statements will not encourage the new comers. Pls Avoid! Regards

AdithOn Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP,Nadi,prasana,etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

Cc: " sujata das " <sujatadash1

Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise.  Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the " URGE " to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

 

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

@gro ups.comThursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.

KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.

While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.com

Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11

RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co...in>

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AM

Respected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53 " Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23°  8' 16 "

 Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer   Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun

21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer

III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me

Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah

VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun

XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57

Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar  The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 RgdsMK Viswanath   --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses " kp system " <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

Dear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signified

I checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On

checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../

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Dear Adith

Astronomy is science. Astrology is an art. Prediction is an art. So it differs from person to person. Science is no way connected with god(Praptham) and experience. Since there is no well defined rules in astrology, we could not give accurate prediction. But we are doing research to prove that the prediction is science. We hope we will succeed one day. On that day I will accept that the prediction is science.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:05 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Science is nothing to do with the Predictions.Since Astrology is a science, all the planetory movements and other related things are happening as per the calculations only.Medical is a science. But all the physician's diagnosis is not the same. Then , do you say that Medical is not a science?But still a lot of research is being done every day !Since we could not reach the accuracy because of many reasons, especially our lack of experience, analysis and the support of the God (Praptham), you can not say " Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeed".We have to study well practically and do the necessary additions as per our experience in our KP.My humble request: your such statements will not encourage the new comers. Pls Avoid!RegardsAdith

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP, Nadi,prasana, etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comCc: "sujata das" <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise. Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the "URGE" to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups..comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co....in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply

to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

 

 

 

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dear Aditji

 

You are 100% correct. Add to your observation Metreology also. Many peedictions on weather forecast go wrong. Still Metreology is a science.

 

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adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:35:36 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Science is nothing to do with the Predictions.Since Astrology is a science, all the planetory movements and other related things are happening as per the calculations only.Medical is a science. But all the physician's diagnosis is not the same. Then , do you say that Medical is not a science?But still a lot of research is being done every day !Since we could not reach the accuracy because of many reasons, especially our lack of experience, analysis and the support of the God (Praptham), you can not say " Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeed".We have to study well practically and do the necessary additions as per our experience in our KP.My humble request: your such statements will not encourage the new comers. Pls Avoid!RegardsAdith

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP, Nadi,prasana, etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comCc: "sujata das" <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise. Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the "URGE" to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ ..co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co...in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25

February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV

8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V 8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9'

46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44 Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected

to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7

11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger

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Respected Madam,

Namaskar.

I am very sorry for the type mistake, "Me cannot be related with Me". In fact I wanted to write Me cannot be related with Jupiter the V cusp sub lord.

Yes KP still needs extensive research to arrive at a level to be able to predict at least in 80 percent of cases.

Many of us have no answers to many issues yet. I am avoiding to enter in to your chart since higher intelects are involved in finding out what is what in the chart. I think your birth time needs rectification afresh.

With due regards.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:35:53 AMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25

February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV

8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V 8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9'

46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44 Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected

to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th CSL is

ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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Dear Dhanabalan jiI have accepted Astrology is a Science. Otherwise, our analysis just on the paper on the chart will not come true ! May the percentage vary which depends on person's skill and other factors. It has got lot of hidden  secrets inside which is not open to all and has to be learnt with their own experience which can not taught.

Even our Science theories are changing everyday as Scientists keep doing  their research . Same way ,we the Astrologers are the Scientists who have to learn first and then to research it!RegardsAdith

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

Astronomy is science. Astrology is an art. Prediction is an art. So it differs from person to person. Science is no way connected with god(Praptham) and experience. Since there is no well defined rules in astrology, we could not give accurate prediction. But we are doing research to prove that the prediction is science. We hope we will succeed one day. On that day I will accept that the prediction is science.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:05 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Science is nothing to do with the Predictions.Since Astrology is a science, all the planetory movements and other related things are happening as per the calculations only.

Medical is a science. But all the physician's diagnosis is not the same. Then , do you say that Medical is not a science?But still a lot of research is being done every day !

Since we could not reach the accuracy because of many reasons, especially our lack of experience, analysis and the support of the God (Praptham), you can not say " Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeed " .

We have to study well practically and do the necessary additions as per our experience in our KP.My humble request: your such statements will not encourage the new comers. Pls Avoid!RegardsAdith

 

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP, Nadi,prasana, etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.com

Cc: " sujata das " <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise.  Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the " URGE " to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

 

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.

KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.

While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups..com

Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11

RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co....in>

Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AM

Respected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53 " Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23°  8' 16 "

 Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer   Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun

21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer

III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo

Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me

Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah

VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju

Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun

XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57

Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar  The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus.

 The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11.

 RgdsMK Viswanath   --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses " kp system " <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PM

Dear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signified

I checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply

to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrong

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Dear Dr LutherI suppose mer in 6 needs to be linked with 6th CSLwhich is sat, a significator of 2 11.Reg my BTR, I was quite surprised that Mr K Ganpayhy and Dr Kar arrived at the same time on the basis of events that occured in my life.RegardsSujata--- On Mon, 2/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Monday, 2 March, 2009, 10:38 AM

 

Respected Madam,

Namaskar.

I am very sorry for the type mistake, "Me cannot be related with Me". In fact I wanted to write Me cannot be related with Jupiter the V cusp sub lord.

Yes KP still needs extensive research to arrive at a level to be able to predict at least in 80 percent of cases.

Many of us have no answers to many issues yet. I am avoiding to enter in to your chart since higher intelects are involved in finding out what is what in the chart. I think your birth time needs rectification afresh.

With due regards.

Dr. Rath.

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, February 26, 2009 11:35:53 AMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25

February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi 5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV

8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V 8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9'

46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44 Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected

to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon, 23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5. 5th

CSL is

ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

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good you have anopen mind on this matter

raichur anant --- On Sat, 28/2/09, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 4:30 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Adith

Astronomy is science. Astrology is an art. Prediction is an art. So it differs from person to person. Science is no way connected with god(Praptham) and experience. Since there is no well defined rules in astrology, we could not give accurate prediction. But we are doing research to prove that the prediction is science. We hope we will succeed one day. On that day I will accept that the prediction is science.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:05 PM

 

 

Dear Dhanabalan ji,Science is nothing to do with the Predictions.Since Astrology is a science, all the planetory movements and other related things are happening as per the calculations only.Medical is a science. But all the physician's diagnosis is not the same. Then , do you say that Medical is not a science?But still a lot of research is being done every day !Since we could not reach the accuracy because of many reasons, especially our lack of experience, analysis and the support of the God (Praptham), you can not say " Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeed".We have to study well practically and do the necessary additions as per our experience in our KP.My humble request: your such statements will not encourage the new comers. Pls Avoid!RegardsAdith

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji

If astrology is science, then every one's prediction must be same. Rules must be same. There should not be tradition,KP, Nadi,prasana, etc. You can say that the astrology is divine but not the science. Mr.KSK has tried to prove the astrology as science but till date not succeeded.

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurar > Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comCc: "sujata das" <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sujata

In principle you are right, PROVIDED you gave cast the chart, on on urge to cast it for a particular subject

 

You will not get correct results, if you do it as a mechanical exercise. Do not forgect Astrology is a Dive Science, where the "URGE" to get the appropriate solution, has to be there. Mere mechanical detiling, will give you incorrect results.

raichur anant --- On Thu, 26/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.com Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr RathPl clarify 'me cannot be related with me'Checking a negative houses CSL is a statement put forwad by Mr Subramanian in vol 3 of 'sublord speaks'. KP has nowhere mentioned 5th for signifying a marriage which is not love marriage, but u have concluded through experience.KP needs a lot of research to address certain things eg in a prediction for marriage, by this forum for April 09 but the marriage occured in nov 08Bhasker not meeting with accident inspite of all planets signifying 6 12 is because of 6th CSL signifyin 5th So CSL do divrtert dasa results as put forward by Mr Subramanian.While judging marriage,profession etc, we judge relevant CSL. Why not extend it to results of all houses as to what results are to be offered by it.RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

 

@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Respected Madam,

The link of Mercury, Sun and Jupiter is not acceptable, as per KP. No doubt V cusp and house may be an important points as regards marriage. V house cusp sub lord signifying II, VII or XI may indicate marriage. Sun being occupant of V is a significator, yes. Mercury occupying Sun's star becomes a strong significator of V. This position of Mercury could have given marriage. But Mercury cnnot be related with Mercury.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups...comWednesday, February 25, 2009 1:56:19 PMRe: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses

 

Dear VishyAs per Mr Subramanian' s statement. one has to check the 5th CSLas mer is placed in the star of su in 5. Since 5thCSL. jup signifies 2 it gave marriage..Regarding ur last para u cud check 8/10 CSL to see if they signify 2 7 or 11RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 25/2/09, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.....in>Re: Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 February, 2009, 11:51 AMRespected Sujata Madam Refer your chart:-- Name: Sujatha Das,IAS, Place: New Delhi Date:

5-5-1955 Thursday Time : 21-37-0 Longitude:77- 13-0 East Latitude:28- 39-0 North DST : 0 Zone: IST 5.5 Settings: Ephemeris Time Sid.Time: 12°6' 53" Latitude: Geographic Cusp System: Placidus Sys: KPAY:23° 8' 16" Cu Longitude Star KP Pointer Pla Longitude Star KP Pointer I 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Ma-Me-Ra-Ma Sun 21° Ar 14' 58 Bharani Mar-Ven-Jup- Ven II 28° Sa 27' 49 Utrashada Ju-Su-Mar-Ma Mer 5° Ta 11' 32 Krittika Ven-Sun-Mer- Mer III 4° Aq 4' 8 Dhanishta Sa-Ma-Ven-Ju Ven 20° Pi 7' 5 Revati Jup-Mer-Ven- Mar IV 8° Pi 44' 16 U Bhadra Ju-Sa-Ven-Mo Mon 7° Li 23' 22 Swati Ven-Rah-Rah- Sat V

8° Ar 30' 41 Aswini Ma-Ke-Jup-Ve Mar 23° Ta 5' 50 Mrigasira Ven-Mar-Mar- Rah VI 3° Ta 29' 23 Krittika Ve-Su-Sat-Me Jup 0° Cn 23' 53 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Moo- Ven VII 26° Ta 6' 33 Mrigasiras Ve-Ma-Ra-Ma Sat® 25° Li 0' 34 Vishakha Ven-Jup-Mer- Rah VIII 28° Ge 27' 49 Punarvasu Me-Ju-Ve-Me Ura 0° Cn 58' 9 Punarvas Moo-Jup-Mar- Mer IX 4° Le 4' 8 Makha Su-Ke-Mo-Ju Nep® 3° Li 15' 24 Chitra Ven-Mar-Ven- Moo X 8° Vi 44' 16 U Phalgun Me-Su-Ve-Ra Plu® 1° Le 9' 46 Makha Sun-Ket-Ven- Sun XI 8° Li 30' 41 Swati Ve-Ra-Ra-Mo Rah 5° Sa 40' 44

Moola Jup-Ket-Rah- Rah XII 3° Sc 29' 23 Anuradha Ma-Sa-Sat-Sa Ket 5° Ge 40' 44 Mrigasiras Mer-Mar-Moo- Mar Fo 12° Ta 14' 57 Rohini Ve-Mo-Rah-Ju Lag 26° Sc 6' 33 Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah- Mar The reasons for Mercury Bhukti giving marriage may be due to fact Mer is placed in Taurus which becomes 7th house (though Mercury is placed in 6th cusp). In your case 7th cusp also falls in Taurus. The other factor could be is that 7th lord is Venus is placed in Mercury star Revati. It is felt KP rules work out strictly and accurately in horary charts. In many natal cases marriage took place in Bhukti of planets connected to 8 and 10 and who is not connected to 2,7 or 11. RgdsMK Viswanath --- On Mon,

23/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Star depositor of D/B/a in negative/neutral houses"kp system" <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:12 PMDear friends and Mr Rath,i examined the statement of Mr Subramanian on page161 of Sublord speaks Vol 3 ie 'If you probe into the matter deeply....CSL would signify the 7th house matter.' On page 162 he talks about relevant house being signifiedI checked my natal horoscpe as to how mer bhukti had given marriage when it did not signify 2 7 11 through star or sub.Mer in star of su in 5... 5th CSL is ju who signifies 2.If CSL is all that important then the priciple should apply

to all relevant cusps also. I found it to be true. On checking 4 horoscopes in Kp books, the rule seemed quite valid. You may like to explore it further or do research...This may be ome of the reasons why some predictions go wrongregardsSujataCheck out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ../Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./

 

 

 

 

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