Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Dear Friends,1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, 23, 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the observation of up to 100 charts.2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, it is found:1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is as given under:1) Sun 52) Mon 43) Mars 54) Mer 175) Jupt 146) Ven 157) Satu 18 8) Rahu199) Ketu 3 Total 1004. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya Sattainathan", NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma Gandhi. 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.Regards,tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Respected Tinwinji, Sir, Very interesting data, sir.At the same time, do we have any research or study on charts having Rahu as 12th CSL but not giving jail or imprisonment to the concerned natives? regards, sujatkaram. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, 23, > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the > observation of up to 100 charts. > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, > it is found: > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is > as given under: > 1) Sun 5 > 2) Mon 4 > 3) Mars 5 > 4) Mer 17 > 5) Jupt 14 > 6) Ven 15 > 7) Satu 18 > 8) Rahu19 > 9) Ketu 3 > Total 100 > > 4. In addition, in " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya > Sattainathan " , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma > Gandhi. > > 5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved. > > Regards, > > tw > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Tit is not correct that the rule holds good in the reverse also raichur anant --- On Wed, 25/2/09, sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: sujatkaram <sujatkaram Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 10:30 AMRespected Tinwinji, Sir, Very interesting data, sir.At the same time, do we have any research or study on charts having Rahu as 12th CSL but not giving jail or imprisonment to the concerned natives? regards, sujatkaram. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, 23, > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the > observation of up to 100 charts. > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, > it is found: > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is > as given under: > 1) Sun 5 > 2) Mon 4 > 3) Mars 5 > 4) Mer 17 > 5) Jupt 14 > 6) Ven 15 > 7) Satu 18 > 8) Rahu19 > 9) Ketu 3 > Total 100 > > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya > Sattainathan", NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma > Gandhi. > > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved. > > Regards, > > tw > --- <*> KP Learning Resources: http://logy.astrosage.com/! Groups Links <*> / <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: /join ( ID required) <*> To change settings via email: -digest -fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Dear TinWin, //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved// I don't agree the above statement fully. I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is" given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%). GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, 23,> 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> observation of up to 100 charts.> > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> it is found:> 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> as given under:> 1) Sun 5> 2) Mon 4> 3) Mars 5> 4) Mer 17> 5) Jupt 14> 6) Ven 15> 7) Satu 18> 8) Rahu19> 9) Ketu 3> Total 100> > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> Sattainathan", NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> Gandhi.> > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> > Regards,> > tw> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section) A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts , " athi_ram " <athi_ram wrote: > > > Dear TinWin, > > > > //5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4, > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved// > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully. > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as " it is " > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase > considerably. If you refer my article on " WILL I GET DRIVING > LICENCE? " have done the study where in 88% of the charts are > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%). > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > D.Senthil > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, > 23, > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the > > observation of up to 100 charts. > > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, > > it is found: > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts > > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is > > as given under: > > 1) Sun 5 > > 2) Mon 4 > > 3) Mars 5 > > 4) Mer 17 > > 5) Jupt 14 > > 6) Ven 15 > > 7) Satu 18 > > 8) Rahu19 > > 9) Ketu 3 > > Total 100 > > > > 4. In addition, in " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya > > Sattainathan " , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma > > Gandhi. > > > > 5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear TinWin, The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known. I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section)A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts @gro ups.com, "athi_ram" <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> > Dear TinWin,> > > > //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4,> KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved//> > > > I don't agree the above statement fully.> > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is"> given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be> required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's> intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected> with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am> sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase> considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING> LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are> agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%).> > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > D.Senthil> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> >> > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20,> 23,> > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> > observation of up to 100 charts.> >> > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> > it is found:> > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> >> > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> > as given under:> > 1) Sun 5> > 2) Mon 4> > 3) Mars 5> > 4) Mer 17> > 5) Jupt 14> > 6) Ven 15> > 7) Satu 18> > 8) Rahu19> > 9) Ketu 3> > Total 100> >> > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> > Sattainathan" , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> > Gandhi.> >> > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Friend, 1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data. Thanks and regards, TW , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear TinWin, >  > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on " WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE? " I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known. >  > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend. >  > GOOD LUCK!! >  > D.Senthil > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM > > >  > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section) > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > @gro ups.com, " athi_ram " <athi_ram@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TinWin, > > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4, > > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved// > > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully. > > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as " it is " > > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be > > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's > > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected > > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am > > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase > > considerably. If you refer my article on " WILL I GET DRIVING > > LICENCE? " have done the study where in 88% of the charts are > > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%). > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts > > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is > > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, > > 23, > > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the > > > observation of up to 100 charts. > > > > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, > > > it is found: > > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts > > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts > > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts > > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts > > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts > > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts > > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts > > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts > > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts > > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts > > > > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and > > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is > > > as given under: > > > 1) Sun 5 > > > 2) Mon 4 > > > 3) Mars 5 > > > 4) Mer 17 > > > 5) Jupt 14 > > > 6) Ven 15 > > > 7) Satu 18 > > > 8) Rahu19 > > > 9) Ketu 3 > > > Total 100 > > > > > > 4. In addition, in " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya > > > Sattainathan " , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. > > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > 5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > > > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part > > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Tin Win, When i posted QUIZ-8 with 5 charts along DATE, TIME, PLACE, LAT, LONG, HORARY NUMBER most of our members were not ready to cast just even 5 charts except ADITH.I have requested the members to post the Chart those who initiate the discussion about specific horoscope which yourself objected. Presenting table like you is no use. In your presentation how can we find what is missing? You are asking us to go and look for 100 charts data, cast it and find out sorry I can't do. We have above 3000 members in our forum am asking the members how many of you Visited the web site to study/verify the above mentioned charts? However If you say there is some restrictions to publish the data then it is unfortunate. So I don't want to discuss further on the above topic due the reasons mentioned above & sorry for the same. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 3:21 AM Dear Friend,1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data.Thanks and regards,TW @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear TinWin,>  > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known.>  > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend.>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM> > >  > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section)> A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > @gro ups.com, "athi_ram" <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> >> > > > Dear TinWin,> > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4,> > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved//> > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully.> > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is"> > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be> > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's> > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected> > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am> > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase> > considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING> > LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are> > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%).> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > > > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20,> > 23,> > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> > > observation of up to 100 charts.> > >> > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> > > it is found:> > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> > >> > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> > > as given under:> > > 1) Sun 5> > > 2) Mon 4> > > 3) Mars 5> > > 4) Mer 17> > > 5) Jupt 14> > > 6) Ven 15> > > 7) Satu 18> > > 8) Rahu19> > > 9) Ketu 3> > > Total 100> > >> > > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> > > Sattainathan" , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> > > Gandhi.> > >> > > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 This is not a quiz. It's a research paper done in a very simple way to make any body able to understand, i.e. casting KP chart and looking at whether 12th CSL is Rahu or not, and then counting how many times are Rahu out of 100 charts, that's all. , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win, >  > When i posted QUIZ-8 with 5 charts along DATE, TIME, PLACE, LAT, LONG, HORARY NUMBER most of our members were not ready to cast just even 5 charts except ADITH.I have requested the members to post the Chart those who initiate the discussion about specific horoscope which yourself objected. >  > > Presenting table like you is no use. In your presentation how can we find what is missing? You are asking us to go and look for 100 charts data, cast it and find out sorry I can't do. We have above 3000 members in our forum am asking the members how many of you Visited the web site to study/verify the above mentioned charts? However If you say there is some restrictions to publish the data then it is unfortunate. So I don't want to discuss further on the above topic due the reasons mentioned above & sorry for the same. >  > GOOD LUCK!! >  > D.Senthil > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 3:21 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Friend, > 1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. > 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data. > Thanks and regards, > TW > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear TinWin, > >  > > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on " WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE? " I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known. > >  > > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend. > >  > > GOOD LUCK!! > >  > > D.Senthil > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > TW <tw853@> > > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section) > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > > > @gro ups.com, " athi_ram " <athi_ram@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear TinWin, > > > > > > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > > > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4, > > > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved// > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as " it is " > > > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be > > > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's > > > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected > > > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am > > > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase > > > considerably. If you refer my article on " WILL I GET DRIVING > > > LICENCE? " have done the study where in 88% of the charts are > > > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%). > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > > > > > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts > > > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is > > > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20, > > > 23, > > > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the > > > > observation of up to 100 charts. > > > > > > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL, > > > > it is found: > > > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts > > > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts > > > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts > > > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts > > > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts > > > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts > > > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts > > > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts > > > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts > > > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts > > > > > > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and > > > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is > > > > as given under: > > > > 1) Sun 5 > > > > 2) Mon 4 > > > > 3) Mars 5 > > > > 4) Mer 17 > > > > 5) Jupt 14 > > > > 6) Ven 15 > > > > 7) Satu 18 > > > > 8) Rahu19 > > > > 9) Ketu 3 > > > > Total 100 > > > > > > > > 4. In addition, in " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya > > > > Sattainathan " , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B. > > > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma > > > > Gandhi. > > > > > > > > 5. For imprisonment " the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu > > > > but can be Saturn or another planet " (in My KP House Grouping- Part > > > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear TinWin, Further to my E-mail below, due to my curiosity have just studied first few charts (7) given by you (which are not having RAH connection as per you) from the Astro data bank and found all are connected with RAH (refer the table given below). It is really a painful job to do the exercise for the balance (100-48-7 = 45) charts. I don’t know how you have done for 100AA charts with how much time/pain. Do you have any software or other shortcut to do this fast? 12CSL, its Star Lord and Sub Lords and their connection with RAH SN AstroDatabank Record No 12CSL Stl Sbl Remarks RAH link 1 19283 Mo Mo Me Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3) 4 25839 Me Ke Me Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3) 8 655 Ke Ke Sa Sa=RAH, RAH in SAT sub - OK 9 40055 Sa Me Me RAH in 12th House - OK 11 36282 Me Ke Sa Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3) 13 36933 Ve Me Sa RAH in MER sign (RA3) With SAT 15 10937 Me Su Sa RAH in MER sign (RA3) in 12 - OK Note: 1) SN 13: Su-Su-Ve given by you is not matching with as calculated using mykundalli.com, which is Ve-Me-Sa (Please check your calculation) 2) RA3= GEMINI 3) As per your table RAH is already connected in 19+10+19 =48 (48%). So total 48+7=55 charts (55%). As you have data with you, hope can understand better than other members (those who have not cast the chart/studied). If you do the exercise for the balance charts I am sure that the % will increase above 80%. KP RULE: I have studied more than 300 charts (again and again I don’t what to tell which you & members may get irritated) and my findings are Very correct. Thus you can certainly take the rule as The 12 th CSL/CUSP any manner connected with RAH. It seems that you have taken lot of pain to present the 100charts in a tabular form and I really appreciate it. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Fri, 1/22/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:24 AM This is not a quiz. It's a research paper done in a very simple way to make any body able to understand, i.e. casting KP chart and looking at whether 12th CSL is Rahu or not, and then counting how many times are Rahu out of 100 charts, that's all.@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> > > Dear Tin Win,>  > When i posted QUIZ-8 with 5 charts along DATE, TIME, PLACE, LAT, LONG, HORARY NUMBER most of our members were not ready to cast just even 5 charts except ADITH.I have requested the members to post the Chart those who initiate the discussion about specific horoscope which yourself objected.>  > > Presenting table like you is no use. In your presentation how can we find what is missing? You are asking us to go and look for 100 charts data, cast it and find out sorry I can't do. We have above 3000 members in our forum am asking the members how many of you Visited the web site to study/verify the above mentioned charts? However If you say there is some restrictions to publish the data then it is unfortunate. So I don't want to discuss further on the above topic due the reasons mentioned above & sorry for the same.>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> @gro ups.com> Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 3:21 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Friend,> 1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. > 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data.> Thanks and regards,> TW > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear TinWin,> >  > > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known.> >  > > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend.> >  > > GOOD LUCK!!> >  > > D.Senthil> > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > TW <tw853@>> > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section)> > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > > > @gro ups.com, "athi_ram" <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear TinWin,> > > > > > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4,> > > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved//> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is"> > > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be> > > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's> > > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected> > > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am> > > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase> > > considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING> > > LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are> > > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%).> > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > > > > > > > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> > > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> > > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20,> > > 23,> > > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> > > > observation of up to 100 charts.> > > >> > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> > > > it is found:> > > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> > > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> > > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> > > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> > > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> > > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> > > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> > > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> > > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> > > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> > > >> > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> > > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> > > > as given under:> > > > 1) Sun 5> > > > 2) Mon 4> > > > 3) Mars 5> > > > 4) Mer 17> > > > 5) Jupt 14> > > > 6) Ven 15> > > > 7) Satu 18> > > > 8) Rahu19> > > > 9) Ketu 3> > > > Total 100> > > >> > > > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> > > > Sattainathan" , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> > > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> > > > Gandhi.> > > >> > > > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> > > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 12th CSL 'should be' Rahu, but not 'connected' to Rahu. KP-Ezine January 2010Why Polanski was arrested after three decades?KP Rule for Imprisonment (KP Reader VI pp 313-314)3. It is to judge the 12th cusp and find out whether the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:-1) The sub-lord of 12th cusp should be Rahu;2) It should not be deposited in the constellation whose lord is retrograde; and3) It should be a signifcator of either 2nd or 3rd or 8th or 12th house.4. If any one of these conditions is not satisfied, one will not be imprisoned. For imprisonment all the above three conditions must necessarily be satisfied simultaneously.5. Note:1) The second condition is for horary analysis only.2) The first condition of karaka Rahu to be the 12th CSL is not significantly found satisfied in "A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts" (KPE-zine March 2009) i.e. one may be imprisoned without the 12th CSL Rahu.3) The third condition of signifying 2,3,8 or 12 house is the really necessary condition to be satisfied in the analysis of a natal chart. , Senthil <athi_ram wrote:>> Dear TinWin,>  > Further to my E-mail below, due to my curiosity have just studied first few charts (7) given by you (which are not having RAH connection as per you) from the Astro data bank and found all are connected with RAH (refer the table given below). It is really a painful job to do the exercise for the balance (100-48-7 = 45) charts. I don’t know how you have done for 100AA charts with how much time/pain. Do you have any software or other shortcut to do this fast? >  >           12CSL, its Star Lord and Sub Lords and their connection with RAH> > > > > SN> > AstroDatabank> Record No > > 12CSL> > Stl> > Sbl> > Remarks> RAH link> > > 1> > 19283> > Mo> > Mo> > Me> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 4> > 25839> > Me> > Ke> > Me> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 8> > 655> > Ke> > Ke> > Sa> > Sa=RAH, RAH in SAT sub - OK> > > 9> > 40055> > Sa> > Me> > Me> > RAH in 12th House - OK> > > 11> > 36282> > Me> > Ke> > Sa> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 13> > 36933> > Ve> > Me> > Sa> > RAH in MER sign (RA3) With SAT> > > 15> > 10937> > Me> > Su> > Sa> > RAH in MER sign (RA3) in 12 - OK>  > Note: >  > 1) SN 13: Su-Su-Ve given by you is not matching with as calculated using mykundalli.com, which is Ve-Me-Sa (Please check your calculation)>  > 2) RA3= GEMINI>  > 3) As per your table RAH is already connected in 19+10+19 =48 (48%). So total 48+7=55 charts (55%).>  > As you have data with you, hope can understand better than other members (those who have not cast the chart/studied). If you do the exercise for the balance charts I am sure that the % will increase above 80%. >  > KP RULE:>  > I have studied more than 300 charts (again and again I don’t what to tell which you & members may get irritated) and my findings are Very correct. Thus you can certainly take the rule as >  > The 12 th CSL/CUSP any manner connected with RAH.>  >  > It seems that you have taken lot of pain to present the 100charts in a tabular form and I really appreciate it.>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil>  > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, TW tw853 wrote:> > > TW tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:24 AM> > >  > > > > This is not a quiz. It's a research paper done in a very simple way to make any body able to understand, i.e. casting KP chart and looking at whether 12th CSL is Rahu or not, and then counting how many times are Rahu out of 100 charts, that's all.> > @gro ups.com, Senthil athi_ram@ .> wrote:> >> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> >  > > When i posted QUIZ-8 with 5 charts along DATE, TIME, PLACE, LAT, LONG, HORARY NUMBER most of our members were not ready to cast just even 5 charts except ADITH.I have requested the members to post the Chart those who initiate the discussion about specific horoscope which yourself objected.> >  > > > > Presenting table like you is no use. In your presentation how can we find what is missing? You are asking us to go and look for 100 charts data, cast it and find out sorry I can't do. We have above 3000 members in our forum am asking the members how many of you Visited the web site to study/verify the above mentioned charts? However If you say there is some restrictions to publish the data then it is unfortunate. So I don't want to discuss further on the above topic due the reasons mentioned above & sorry for the same.> >  > > GOOD LUCK!!> >  > > D.Senthil> > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW tw853@ wrote:> > > > > > TW tw853@> > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 3:21 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > 1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. > > 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data.> > Thanks and regards,> > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear TinWin,> > >  > > > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known.> > >  > > > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend.> > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > >  > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > TW <tw853@>> > > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section)> > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "athi_ram" <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear TinWin,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4,> > > > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is"> > > > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be> > > > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's> > > > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected> > > > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am> > > > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase> > > > considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING> > > > LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are> > > > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> > > > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> > > > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20,> > > > 23,> > > > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> > > > > observation of up to 100 charts.> > > > >> > > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> > > > > it is found:> > > > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> > > > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> > > > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> > > > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> > > > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> > > > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> > > > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> > > > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> > > > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> > > > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> > > > >> > > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> > > > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> > > > > as given under:> > > > > 1) Sun 5> > > > > 2) Mon 4> > > > > 3) Mars 5> > > > > 4) Mer 17> > > > > 5) Jupt 14> > > > > 6) Ven 15> > > > > 7) Satu 18> > > > > 8) Rahu19> > > > > 9) Ketu 3> > > > > Total 100> > > > >> > > > > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> > > > > Sattainathan" , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> > > > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> > > > > Gandhi.> > > > >> > > > > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> > > > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear TinWin, If you go with all the rules mentioned in the KP reader as "it is" i am sure that you will never get satisfactory result for certain things. In this regard I will not accept that the Prof. Late KSK's statement/RULE is 100% correct. We have to use our commonsense to see what is the base/reason in the RULE to consider the RAH that is it. Kindly note that while submitting my research paper to Prof.K.Hariharan had personal talk with him regarding this point and he also accepted it. Disproving the KP RULE by giving 100 examples is OK provided that there is no solution is yet found. As you have already published in KPE-zine March 2009(Disproving the KP RULE mentioned as "it is" is no use) and now don't want to accept my solution /correction for the KSK's RULE. You have not replied to my points instead you are giving the QUOTE from various books/article. What is the use? Honestly speaking how many of the readers reviewed your table/presentation? What angle that was reviewed? How many of the readers reviewed data available in AstroData bank with respect to your data? I have noticed in this forum many of the members are silent nature, few dictators and very less workers/guiders/contributes. So now I will leave it to the members to decide whether to work the balance chart to verify the RULEs or leave it as it is. Note To members: Please wakeup and talk/do something else we never come out with correct things. GOOD LUCK!!! D.Senthil --- On Fri, 1/22/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 10:05 AM 12th CSL 'should be' Rahu, but not 'connected' to Rahu. KP-Ezine January 2010Why Polanski was arrested after three decades?KP Rule for Imprisonment (KP Reader VI pp 313-314)3. It is to judge the 12th cusp and find out whether the following three conditions are simultaneously satisfied:-1) The sub-lord of 12th cusp should be Rahu;2) It should not be deposited in the constellation whose lord is retrograde; and3) It should be a signifcator of either 2nd or 3rd or 8th or 12th house.4. If any one of these conditions is not satisfied, one will not be imprisoned. For imprisonment all the above three conditions must necessarily be satisfied simultaneously.5. Note:1) The second condition is for horary analysis only.2) The first condition of karaka Rahu to be the 12th CSL is not significantly found satisfied in "A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts" (KPE-zine March 2009) i.e. one may be imprisoned without the 12th CSL Rahu.3) The third condition of signifying 2,3,8 or 12 house is the really necessary condition to be satisfied in the analysis of a natal chart. @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram wrote:>> Dear TinWin,>  > Further to my E-mail below, due to my curiosity have just studied first few charts (7) given by you (which are not having RAH connection as per you) from the Astro data bank and found all are connected with RAH (refer the table given below). It is really a painful job to do the exercise for the balance (100-48-7 = 45) charts. I don’t know how you have done for 100AA charts with how much time/pain. Do you have any software or other shortcut to do this fast? >  >           12CSL, its Star Lord and Sub Lords and their connection with RAH> > > > > SN> > AstroDatabank> Record No > > 12CSL> > Stl> > Sbl> > Remarks> RAH link> > > 1> > 19283> > Mo> > Mo> > Me> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 4> > 25839> > Me> > Ke> > Me> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 8> > 655> > Ke> > Ke> > Sa> > Sa=RAH, RAH in SAT sub - OK> > > 9> > 40055> > Sa> > Me> > Me> > RAH in 12th House - OK> > > 11> > 36282> > Me> > Ke> > Sa> > Me=RAH, RAH in MER sign (RA3)> > > 13> > 36933> > Ve> > Me> > Sa> > RAH in MER sign (RA3) With SAT> > > 15> > 10937> > Me> > Su> > Sa> > RAH in MER sign (RA3) in 12 - OK>  > Note: >  > 1) SN 13: Su-Su-Ve given by you is not matching with as calculated using mykundalli.com, which is Ve-Me-Sa (Please check your calculation)>  > 2) RA3= GEMINI>  > 3) As per your table RAH is already connected in 19+10+19 =48 (48%). So total 48+7=55 charts (55%).>  > As you have data with you, hope can understand better than other members (those who have not cast the chart/studied) . If you do the exercise for the balance charts I am sure that the % will increase above 80%. >  > KP RULE:>  > I have studied more than 300 charts (again and again I don’t what to tell which you & members may get irritated) and my findings are Very correct. Thus you can certainly take the rule as >  > The 12 th CSL/CUSP any manner connected with RAH.>  >  > It seems that you have taken lot of pain to present the 100charts in a tabular form and I really appreciate it.>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil>  > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, TW tw853 wrote:> > > TW tw853 Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> @gro ups.com> Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:24 AM> > >  > > > > This is not a quiz. It's a research paper done in a very simple way to make any body able to understand, i.e. casting KP chart and looking at whether 12th CSL is Rahu or not, and then counting how many times are Rahu out of 100 charts, that's all.> > @gro ups.com, Senthil athi_ram@ .> wrote:> >> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> >  > > When i posted QUIZ-8 with 5 charts along DATE, TIME, PLACE, LAT, LONG, HORARY NUMBER most of our members were not ready to cast just even 5 charts except ADITH.I have requested the members to post the Chart those who initiate the discussion about specific horoscope which yourself objected.> >  > > > > Presenting table like you is no use. In your presentation how can we find what is missing? You are asking us to go and look for 100 charts data, cast it and find out sorry I can't do. We have above 3000 members in our forum am asking the members how many of you Visited the web site to study/verify the above mentioned charts? However If you say there is some restrictions to publish the data then it is unfortunate. So I don't want to discuss further on the above topic due the reasons mentioned above & sorry for the same.> >  > > GOOD LUCK!!> >  > > D.Senthil> > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW tw853@ wrote:> > > > > > TW tw853@> > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 3:21 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > 1. Why don't you present your research paper in the same manner as mine, other than just mentioning it again and again. > > 2. The AstroDatabank Record Nos are given there, and the purpose is to study the 100 AA (BC/BR) rated prisoner charts, not to give for further reference as there is some restrictions to publish the data.> > Thanks and regards,> > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear TinWin,> > >  > > > The data provided in the below mentioned document is insufficient. You must have casted 100 charts of the Prisoner. Providing those chats will help us to study further. If you see my research paper on "WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?" I have taken lot of pain/effort to collect data (including spending time/money) and provided the analysis with all the input data including charts, full sub tables to help the reader/astrologer to cross verify the results (without going for any further calculation etc to save some time/further work- as a ready reference) as well as for further research. In spite of this I don't find any of the readers/astrologers has really spent time to cross verify the results is not known.> > >  > > > I know it is a painful job for you (hope it may be available in your database) but I am sure that the understanding & further findings on the subject article will help at great extend.> > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > >  > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > TW <tw853@>> > > Re: For imprisonment, 12CSL may NOT be always RAHU> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:27 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts.doc (in File section)> > > A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "athi_ram" <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear TinWin,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part 4,> > > > KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't agree the above statement fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I accept that If we follow some of the statements as "it is"> > > > given in KP reader may not work well for all chart(modification may be> > > > required). However we have to understand that Prof Late KSK's> > > > intention was to point out that 12 CSL/CUSP must be any manner connected> > > > with RAHU. With this understanding if you check those AA charts I am> > > > sure that the % of charts agreeing with RULEs will increase> > > > considerably. If you refer my article on "WILL I GET DRIVING> > > > LICENCE?" have done the study where in 88% of the charts are> > > > agreeing with RULE except 3 charts out of 25 charts (12%).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D.Senthil> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > 1. By using filter, 544 charts of prisoners, out of them 370 AA charts> > > > > are found in the AstroDatabank 4.0. As per KPAstro 3.1 charts, Rahu is> > > > > found as the 12th cuspal sublord in the charts sr number 3, 12, 20,> > > > 23,> > > > > 31, 33, 34, 38, 41, 45, 48, 57, 66, 71, 75, 78, 83, 84 and 89 in the> > > > > observation of up to 100 charts.> > > > >> > > > > 2. As per the accumulative frequency of Rahu's appearance as 12CSL,> > > > > it is found:> > > > > 1) 10% (1/10) up to 10 charts> > > > > 2) 15% (3/20) up to 20 charts> > > > > 3) 13% (4/30) up to 30 charts> > > > > 4) 20% (8/40) up to 40 charts> > > > > 5) 22% (11/50) up to 50 charts> > > > > 6) 20% (12/60) up to 60 charts> > > > > 7) 19% (13/70) up to 70 charts> > > > > 8) 20% (16/80) up to 80 charts> > > > > 9) 21% (19/90) up to 90 charts> > > > > 10)19% (19/100) up to 100charts> > > > >> > > > > 3. Each planet's chance of appearance as 12CSL is 11.1% (1/9) and> > > > > each planet's frequency of appearance in 100 charts under study is> > > > > as given under:> > > > > 1) Sun 5> > > > > 2) Mon 4> > > > > 3) Mars 5> > > > > 4) Mer 17> > > > > 5) Jupt 14> > > > > 6) Ven 15> > > > > 7) Satu 18> > > > > 8) Rahu19> > > > > 9) Ketu 3> > > > > Total 100> > > > >> > > > > 4. In addition, in "KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers by Kousalya> > > > > Sattainathan" , NONE of 11 Indian PMs (Jawaharlal Nehru to A.B.> > > > > Vajpayee) has 12th cuspal sub lord Rahu and the same is with Mahatma> > > > > Gandhi.> > > > >> > > > > 5. For imprisonment "the 12th cuspal sub lord may not be always Rahu> > > > > but can be Saturn or another planet" (in My KP House Grouping- Part> > > > > 4, KPEzine Jan 2008) has been hopefully proved.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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