Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dear Dr. Rath, Thanks for your efforts in this direction.. I have found most of the times if transits are favourable with respect to 7th house significators "A missed opportunity regarding marriage" can be concluded in the year of transit. Transits are overall and ultimate deciding factor. Regards Bhuwan Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dear Bhuwan Ji,If u can submit any example chart with transit of significators in favour of marriage, it will be a great guidance to the new comers.SuanaparanthaBhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:58:16 AMSubject: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr. Rath, Thanks for your efforts in this direction.. I have found most of the times if transits are favourable with respect to 7th house significators "A missed opportunity regarding marriage" can be concluded in the year of transit. Transits are overall and ultimate deciding factor. Regards Bhuwan Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dear Dr Rath The reading of ur research findings really shook me up. So no rule is infallible. Dr Kar had discussed a similar case. His method was whether F3 is fruitful or evil for a particular matter.All the 9 platets are taken for anaysis which is discussed below Discussing case no 15, the 7th sub ra in 10, agent of sa l/o 11 12 in 7 should have given marriage but it hasn't.Nodes behaviour is unpredictable. Here ithas given the results of its star depositor,su in5 l/o 6, and sub,ve in 3,l/o 3 8 F3 of su,mo, ma, ra, ke is ra in 10, so, evil. Now all planets in the star and sub of above platets become evil, including those planets with these F3. Thus all planets become evil for marriage case no 2 7th sub is sa in 10, l/o 2 3, in ra star in 1 which is 12th to 2.Here Ra is an agent of ju and ve in 7th. F3 of Ju sa ra ke is ra in 1, thus evil.F3 of Su ma me ve is ju, so evil F3 of mo is sa, so evil. Chart no. 4. 7th sub ju in 3 l/o 6 9. Ju is in own star and sub, so des not signify 2 7 11 Case no. 11 7th CSL is ke in 1 It is agent of ve in11,l/o 1 6.Ke is in mo star in3, l/o 3.Ke could not give results of ve in 11 as all planets are evil as per Dr Kar. Ve is evil as F3 is sa in 6 Check sa if it is evil. here sa is F3. Moon ju ra become evil as they are sub/star of ve / sa. Rest of the planets become evil as they are in sud/star of evil Case 14 7th CSL is me, is signifying 2, being l/o 2 n 5 in 5, in mo star in 12 l/o 3. All planets are evil as per Dr Kar.F3 of su is su in 5, l/o 4, so evil for marriage. Ma ju sa are in star/ sub of su, so evil. ve in ju star, so, evil.As all other planets have F3 from amongst the evil planets, they become evil. Case No 3 ra is 7th CSL in ke in 8.But I would like to rectify the tob by 4 mts to bring 1st CSL to signify mo star lord. ju becomes the 7th CSL in 7, l/o 6 10. It is in mo star in 12, l/o 1 2. 2nd house becomes weak as its csl is ma in 1. with no planets in its stars. Moon becomes evil, as per Dr Kar, whose F3 is moon in 12. F3 of Sa ra ke is moon , so evil for marriage.Rest of the planets become evil by being in the star or sub of evil Chart no 12 BTR by 3mts is done to make CSL of 1 as the rasi lord. 7th CSL is mer in 4,l/o 3 6, in ke in 12,who is agent of ju in 12 Case 1 7th CSL is ju in 10 in star of sat, l/o 2 in 12 and sub of ke in 2.This hasn't given marriage because CSL of 2 is mer in 1 with no planets in its star.To select evil planets, we start with ra Its F3 is ju in 10. Check ju if it is evil Yes it is, as its F3 is me in1. F3 of su ma ve is ra, so evil.Like this all planets will be evil case no. 5 7th CSL is sa, l/o 1 12 in 8 conjunct mo l/o 6 in 8 Both the planets have no planets in their stars, so strong. Sa is CSL of 2 5 7 11 1 8. Being conjunct moon in 8, it has given the result of 6th lord, moon Case no. 6 7th CSL mar conjunct ju in 11, in sa star in2, mo sub, l/o 11 in 10. But sa is also the 6th lord, whose CSL is ju in 11. Ju is in sa star, 6th lord, and ra sub. Ra is agent of ju and ke in 11 and 9 respectively. In this case ra has acted as agent of ke and ke has acted as agent of mer in 10, l/o 1 10.11th CSL, ve in 10 is negating 11th H results. Case no. 7 7th Csl sa in mer star in 11,l/o 2 5. But it is in sat sub signifying 4 5 10 12.In KP sub has the last say CONCLUSION: Its very sad to say that KP rule ie 7th CSL signifying 2 7 or 11, for marriage is subject to other astrological rules.Predicting with nodes is difficult. In case no 12, ke has not acted as ju, its sign depositor maybe because they are in 1/12 signs.In case no 2, ra in whose star 7th CSL is deposited has not acted as agent of anyone as all the planets as per Dr Kar are evil. Lets see if someone can comes out with a more plausible reason. Until now, I thought that judging marriage is easy Regards Sujata --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther Birth data of unmarried persons Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 9:00 AM Dear Sirs, As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group. With respect to all. Dr. Rath.. Following is the table: BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONS Sl. No DOB TOB POB 1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn) 2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi 3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar 4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi 5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 13 6 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore) 7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 13 8 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 06 9 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 17 10 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 17 11 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad 12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 34 13 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 34 14 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore 15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yes, of course, Bhubanji, the transits also need to be examined. As regards promiss of marriage we predict so when the VII cusp sub lord signifies II, VII and XI. I meant to say this much is not adequate to predict. We have to include the non significance of certain houses as well besides transit of the planets. Dr. Rath. Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:58:16 AM Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr. Rath, Thanks for your efforts in this direction.. I have found most of the times if transits are favourable with respect to 7th house significators "A missed opportunity regarding marriage" can be concluded in the year of transit. Transits are overall and ultimate deciding factor. Regards Bhuwan Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Dear Madam, I am very much grateful for your valuable openion in your posting. Definitely, we are not going to predict any one that he/she would not marry in life time. If we see from different angle, we have to predict that one is promissed married life and then only we can predict a date or a posible period. While doing so, we shall have to be aware of the facts that have come out in my study. The full detail is with every one of us. Some may interprit the findings in different way. They are welcome, surely. I wish to study at least 50 charts of married persons, I hope I have sufficient data; and find out how they differ from those of the unmarried. It will definitely take a long time. I have no students to help me out for casting the charts and feed me. I have to do single handed. Let me hope I can do it. Thank you so much madam. Dr. Rath "sujatadash1" <sujatadash1 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:13:06 AMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr RathThe reading of ur research findings really shook me up. So no rule is infallible. Dr Kar had discussed a similar case. His method was whether F3 is fruitful or evil for a particular matter.All the 9 platets are taken for anaysis which is discussed belowDiscussing case no 15, the 7th sub ra in 10, agent of sa l/o 11 12 in 7 should have given marriage but it hasn't.Nodes behaviour is unpredictable. Here ithas given the results of its star depositor,su in5 l/o 6, and sub,ve in 3,l/o 3 8 F3 of su,mo, ma, ra, ke is ra in 10, so, evil. Now all planets in the star and sub of above platets become evil, including those planets with these F3. Thus all planets become evil for marriagecase no 2 7th sub is sa in 10, l/o 2 3, in ra star in 1 which is 12th to 2.Here Ra is an agent of ju and ve in 7th.. F3 of Ju sa ra ke is ra in 1, thus evil.F3 of Su ma me ve is ju, so evil F3 of mo is sa, so evil.Chart no. 4.7th sub ju in 3 l/o 6 9. Ju is in own star and sub, so des not signify 2 7 11Case no. 117th CSL is ke in 1 It is agent of ve in11,l/o 1 6.Ke is in mo star in3, l/o 3.Ke could not give results of ve in 11 as all planets are evil as per Dr Kar. Ve is evil as F3 is sa in 6 Check sa if it is evil. here sa is F3. Moon ju ra become evil as they are sub/star of ve / sa. Rest of the planets become evil as they are in sud/star of evilCase 147th CSL is me, is signifying 2, being l/o 2 n 5 in 5, in mo star in 12 l/o 3. All planets are evil as per Dr Kar.F3 of su is su in 5, l/o 4, so evil for marriage. Ma ju sa are in star/ sub of su, so evil. ve in ju star, so, evil.As all other planets have F3 from amongst the evil planets, they become evil.Case No 3ra is 7th CSL in ke in 8.But I would like to rectify the tob by 4 mts to bring 1st CSL to signify mo star lord. ju becomes the 7th CSL in 7, l/o 6 10. It is in mo star in 12, l/o 1 2. 2nd house becomes weak as its csl is ma in 1. with no planets in its stars. Moon becomes evil, as per Dr Kar, whose F3 is moon in 12. F3 of Sa ra ke is moon , so evil for marriage.Rest of the planets become evil by being in the star or sub of evil Chart no 12BTR by 3mts is done to make CSL of 1 as the rasi lord. 7th CSL is mer in 4,l/o 3 6, in ke in 12,who is agent of ju in 12 Case 17th CSL is ju in 10 in star of sat, l/o 2 in 12 and sub of ke in 2.This hasn't given marriage because CSL of 2 is mer in 1 with no planets in its star.To select evil planets, we start with ra Its F3 is ju in 10. Check ju if it is evil Yes it is, as its F3 is me in1. F3 of su ma ve is ra, so evil.Like this all planets will be evil case no. 57th CSL is sa, l/o 1 12 in 8 conjunct mo l/o 6 in 8 Both the planets have no planets in their stars, so strong. Sa is CSL of 2 5 7 11 1 8. Being conjunct moon in 8, it has given the result of 6th lord, moonCase no. 67th CSL mar conjunct ju in 11, in sa star in2, mo sub, l/o 11 in 10. But sa is also the 6th lord, whose CSL is ju in 11. Ju is in sa star, 6th lord, and ra sub. Ra is agent of ju and ke in 11 and 9 respectively. In this case ra has acted as agent of ke and ke has acted as agent of mer in 10, l/o 1 10.11th CSL, ve in 10 is negating 11th H results.Case no. 77th Csl sa in mer star in 11,l/o 2 5. But it is in sat sub signifying 4 5 10 12.In KP sub has the last sayCONCLUSION:Its very sad to say that KP rule ie 7th CSL signifying 2 7 or 11, for marriage is subject to other astrological rules.Predicting with nodes isdifficult. In case no 12, ke has not acted as ju, its sign depositor maybe because they are in 1/12 signs.In case no 2, ra in whose star 7th CSL is deposited has not acted as agent of anyone as all the planets as per Dr Kar are evil.Lets see if someone can comes out with a more plausible reason.Until now, I thought that judging marriage is easy RegardsSujata --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther > Birth data of unmarried persons@gro ups.comSaturday, 14 March, 2009, 9:00 AM Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Dear Dr. Rath, I use KAS, Vedic and KP simulaneously. KAS developed after KP and may be my guess is that they went through the findingss of 10th house that you refer to. KAS does not take 10th house as a significator for marriage either. Your work here will be very helpful, I will supplement with my finding as well as we make some progress.. Regards Bhuwan Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Monday, 16 March, 2009 6:32:04 AMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Yes, of course, Bhubanji, the transits also need to be examined.. As regards promiss of marriage we predict so when the VII cusp sub lord signifies II, VII and XI. I meant to say this much is not adequate to predict. We have to include the non significance of certain houses as well besides transit of the planets. Dr. Rath. Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >@gro ups.comSunday, March 15, 2009 11:58:16 AM Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr. Rath, Thanks for your efforts in this direction.. I have found most of the times if transits are favourable with respect to 7th house significators "A missed opportunity regarding marriage" can be concluded in the year of transit. Transits are overall and ultimate deciding factor. Regards Bhuwan Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Dear Bhuwanji, Thank you for your message.. I have considered X not as a significator for marriage but as the negating house to XI which is an important house for marriage. Negation of XI appeared to be very important for denial of marriage. With regards.. Dr. Rath. Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:29:30 PMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr. Rath, I use KAS, Vedic and KP simulaneously. KAS developed after KP and may be my guess is that they went through the findingss of 10th house that you refer to. KAS does not take 10th house as a significator for marriage either. Your work here will be very helpful, I will supplement with my finding as well as we make some progress.. Regards Bhuwan Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comMonday, 16 March, 2009 6:32:04 AMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Yes, of course, Bhubanji, the transits also need to be examined.. As regards promiss of marriage we predict so when the VII cusp sub lord signifies II, VII and XI. I meant to say this much is not adequate to predict. We have to include the non significance of certain houses as well besides transit of the planets. Dr. Rath. Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >@gro ups.comSunday, March 15, 2009 11:58:16 AM Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr. Rath, Thanks for your efforts in this direction.. I have found most of the times if transits are favourable with respect to 7th house significators "A missed opportunity regarding marriage" can be concluded in the year of transit. Transits are overall and ultimate deciding factor. Regards Bhuwan Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Dear Luther Rath Your analysis is very right for my chart No.5. Lagna lord and 7th CSL is Saturn with the 6th cusp lord Moon caused to be bachuler, i took decission not to get marry at the of 11 when i saw people 100's of sleeping in footpath, hence i deceded to make every one rich by becoming Prime Minister of India. Thanks and regards Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 16/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Date: Monday, 16 March, 2009, 7:13 PM Dear Madam, I am very much grateful for your valuable openion in your posting. Definitely, we are not going to predict any one that he/she would not marry in life time. If we see from different angle, we have to predict that one is promissed married life and then only we can predict a date or a posible period. While doing so, we shall have to be aware of the facts that have come out in my study. The full detail is with every one of us. Some may interprit the findings in different way. They are welcome, surely. I wish to study at least 50 charts of married persons, I hope I have sufficient data; and find out how they differ from those of the unmarried. It will definitely take a long time. I have no students to help me out for casting the charts and feed me. I have to do single handed. Let me hope I can do it. Thank you so much madam. Dr. Rath "sujatadash1@ .co. in" <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, March 16, 2009 12:13:06 AMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr RathThe reading of ur research findings really shook me up. So no rule is infallible. Dr Kar had discussed a similar case. His method was whether F3 is fruitful or evil for a particular matter.All the 9 platets are taken for anaysis which is discussed belowDiscussing case no 15, the 7th sub ra in 10, agent of sa l/o 11 12 in 7 should have given marriage but it hasn't.Nodes behaviour is unpredictable. Here ithas given the results of its star depositor,su in5 l/o 6, and sub,ve in 3,l/o 3 8 F3 of su,mo, ma, ra, ke is ra in 10, so, evil. Now all planets in the star and sub of above platets become evil, including those planets with these F3. Thus all planets become evil for marriagecase no 2 7th sub is sa in 10, l/o 2 3, in ra star in 1 which is 12th to 2.Here Ra is an agent of ju and ve in 7th.. F3 of Ju sa ra ke is ra in 1, thus evil.F3 of Su ma me ve is ju, so evil F3 of mo is sa, so evil.Chart no. 4.7th sub ju in 3 l/o 6 9. Ju is in own star and sub, so des not signify 2 7 11Case no. 117th CSL is ke in 1 It is agent of ve in11,l/o 1 6.Ke is in mo star in3, l/o 3.Ke could not give results of ve in 11 as all planets are evil as per Dr Kar. Ve is evil as F3 is sa in 6 Check sa if it is evil. here sa is F3. Moon ju ra become evil as they are sub/star of ve / sa. Rest of the planets become evil as they are in sud/star of evilCase 147th CSL is me, is signifying 2, being l/o 2 n 5 in 5, in mo star in 12 l/o 3. All planets are evil as per Dr Kar.F3 of su is su in 5, l/o 4, so evil for marriage. Ma ju sa are in star/ sub of su, so evil. ve in ju star, so, evil.As all other planets have F3 from amongst the evil planets, they become evil.Case No 3ra is 7th CSL in ke in 8.But I would like to rectify the tob by 4 mts to bring 1st CSL to signify mo star lord. ju becomes the 7th CSL in 7, l/o 6 10. It is in mo star in 12, l/o 1 2. 2nd house becomes weak as its csl is ma in 1. with no planets in its stars. Moon becomes evil, as per Dr Kar, whose F3 is moon in 12. F3 of Sa ra ke is moon , so evil for marriage.Rest of the planets become evil by being in the star or sub of evil Chart no 12BTR by 3mts is done to make CSL of 1 as the rasi lord. 7th CSL is mer in 4,l/o 3 6, in ke in 12,who is agent of ju in 12 Case 17th CSL is ju in 10 in star of sat, l/o 2 in 12 and sub of ke in 2.This hasn't given marriage because CSL of 2 is mer in 1 with no planets in its star.To select evil planets, we start with ra Its F3 is ju in 10. Check ju if it is evil Yes it is, as its F3 is me in1. F3 of su ma ve is ra, so evil.Like this all planets will be evil case no. 57th CSL is sa, l/o 1 12 in 8 conjunct mo l/o 6 in 8 Both the planets have no planets in their stars, so strong. Sa is CSL of 2 5 7 11 1 8. Being conjunct moon in 8, it has given the result of 6th lord, moonCase no. 67th CSL mar conjunct ju in 11, in sa star in2, mo sub, l/o 11 in 10. But sa is also the 6th lord, whose CSL is ju in 11. Ju is in sa star, 6th lord, and ra sub. Ra is agent of ju and ke in 11 and 9 respectively. In this case ra has acted as agent of ke and ke has acted as agent of mer in 10, l/o 1 10.11th CSL, ve in 10 is negating 11th H results.Case no. 77th Csl sa in mer star in 11,l/o 2 5. But it is in sat sub signifying 4 5 10 12.In KP sub has the last sayCONCLUSION:Its very sad to say that KP rule ie 7th CSL signifying 2 7 or 11, for marriage is subject to other astrological rules.Predicting with nodes isdifficult. In case no 12, ke has not acted as ju, its sign depositor maybe because they are in 1/12 signs.In case no 2, ra in whose star 7th CSL is deposited has not acted as agent of anyone as all the planets as per Dr Kar are evil.Lets see if someone can comes out with a more plausible reason.Until now, I thought that judging marriage is easy RegardsSujata --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther > Birth data of unmarried persons@gro ups.comSaturday, 14 March, 2009, 9:00 AM Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Dear Sahhasra Saagarji, It's nice that you have attempted to corelate my analysis to your own chart and could find out some clue. Thanks for your message. Regards. Dr. Rath Sagar S <ssagar86 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:27:28 PMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Luther Rath Your analysis is very right for my chart No.5. Lagna lord and 7th CSL is Saturn with the 6th cusp lord Moon caused to be bachuler, i took decission not to get marry at the of 11 when i saw people 100's of sleeping in footpath, hence i deceded to make every one rich by becoming Prime Minister of India. Thanks and regards Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 16/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Birth data of unmarried persons@gro ups.comMonday, 16 March, 2009, 7:13 PM Dear Madam, I am very much grateful for your valuable openion in your posting. Definitely, we are not going to predict any one that he/she would not marry in life time. If we see from different angle, we have to predict that one is promissed married life and then only we can predict a date or a posible period. While doing so, we shall have to be aware of the facts that have come out in my study. The full detail is with every one of us. Some may interprit the findings in different way. They are welcome, surely. I wish to study at least 50 charts of married persons, I hope I have sufficient data; and find out how they differ from those of the unmarried. It will definitely take a long time. I have no students to help me out for casting the charts and feed me. I have to do single handed. Let me hope I can do it. Thank you so much madam. Dr. Rath "sujatadash1@ .co. in" <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, March 16, 2009 12:13:06 AMRe: Birth data of unmarried persons Dear Dr RathThe reading of ur research findings really shook me up. So no rule is infallible. Dr Kar had discussed a similar case. His method was whether F3 is fruitful or evil for a particular matter.All the 9 platets are taken for anaysis which is discussed belowDiscussing case no 15, the 7th sub ra in 10, agent of sa l/o 11 12 in 7 should have given marriage but it hasn't.Nodes behaviour is unpredictable. Here ithas given the results of its star depositor,su in5 l/o 6, and sub,ve in 3,l/o 3 8 F3 of su,mo, ma, ra, ke is ra in 10, so, evil. Now all planets in the star and sub of above platets become evil, including those planets with these F3. Thus all planets become evil for marriagecase no 2 7th sub is sa in 10, l/o 2 3, in ra star in 1 which is 12th to 2.Here Ra is an agent of ju and ve in 7th.. F3 of Ju sa ra ke is ra in 1, thus evil.F3 of Su ma me ve is ju, so evil F3 of mo is sa, so evil.Chart no. 4.7th sub ju in 3 l/o 6 9. Ju is in own star and sub, so des not signify 2 7 11Case no. 117th CSL is ke in 1 It is agent of ve in11,l/o 1 6.Ke is in mo star in3, l/o 3.Ke could not give results of ve in 11 as all planets are evil as per Dr Kar. Ve is evil as F3 is sa in 6 Check sa if it is evil. here sa is F3. Moon ju ra become evil as they are sub/star of ve / sa. Rest of the planets become evil as they are in sud/star of evilCase 147th CSL is me, is signifying 2, being l/o 2 n 5 in 5, in mo star in 12 l/o 3. All planets are evil as per Dr Kar.F3 of su is su in 5, l/o 4, so evil for marriage. Ma ju sa are in star/ sub of su, so evil. ve in ju star, so, evil.As all other planets have F3 from amongst the evil planets, they become evil.Case No 3ra is 7th CSL in ke in 8.But I would like to rectify the tob by 4 mts to bring 1st CSL to signify mo star lord. ju becomes the 7th CSL in 7, l/o 6 10. It is in mo star in 12, l/o 1 2. 2nd house becomes weak as its csl is ma in 1. with no planets in its stars. Moon becomes evil, as per Dr Kar, whose F3 is moon in 12. F3 of Sa ra ke is moon , so evil for marriage.Rest of the planets become evil by being in the star or sub of evil Chart no 12BTR by 3mts is done to make CSL of 1 as the rasi lord. 7th CSL is mer in 4,l/o 3 6, in ke in 12,who is agent of ju in 12 Case 17th CSL is ju in 10 in star of sat, l/o 2 in 12 and sub of ke in 2.This hasn't given marriage because CSL of 2 is mer in 1 with no planets in its star.To select evil planets, we start with ra Its F3 is ju in 10. Check ju if it is evil Yes it is, as its F3 is me in1. F3 of su ma ve is ra, so evil.Like this all planets will be evil case no. 57th CSL is sa, l/o 1 12 in 8 conjunct mo l/o 6 in 8 Both the planets have no planets in their stars, so strong. Sa is CSL of 2 5 7 11 1 8. Being conjunct moon in 8, it has given the result of 6th lord, moonCase no. 67th CSL mar conjunct ju in 11, in sa star in2, mo sub, l/o 11 in 10. But sa is also the 6th lord, whose CSL is ju in 11. Ju is in sa star, 6th lord, and ra sub. Ra is agent of ju and ke in 11 and 9 respectively. In this case ra has acted as agent of ke and ke has acted as agent of mer in 10, l/o 1 10.11th CSL, ve in 10 is negating 11th H results.Case no. 77th Csl sa in mer star in 11,l/o 2 5. But it is in sat sub signifying 4 5 10 12.In KP sub has the last sayCONCLUSION:Its very sad to say that KP rule ie 7th CSL signifying 2 7 or 11, for marriage is subject to other astrological rules.Predicting with nodes isdifficult. In case no 12, ke has not acted as ju, its sign depositor maybe because they are in 1/12 signs.In case no 2, ra in whose star 7th CSL is deposited has not acted as agent of anyone as all the planets as per Dr Kar are evil.Lets see if someone can comes out with a more plausible reason.Until now, I thought that judging marriage is easy RegardsSujata --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther > Birth data of unmarried persons@gro ups.comSaturday, 14 March, 2009, 9:00 AM Dear Sirs,As required by many members I am submitting the birth details of the unmarried persons that were included in my study. The data are the ones provided by the members of the group.With respect to all.Dr. Rath..Following is the table:BIRTH DATA OF UNMARRIED PERSONSSl. No DOB TOB POB1 19-02-1959 05-45 Hrs (Time Zone 1 Hr E ) 50 N 43 ; 07 E 04 (Bonn)2 16-06-1954 20-00 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Delhi3 18-05-1961 09-35 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Amritsar4 11-11-1958 23-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30-Hrs Delhi5 07-05-1955 02-45 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 12 N 20 ; 76 E 136 19-07-1955 11-40 Hrs (Time Zone 7-30 Hrs) 01 N 17 ; 103 E 51 (Singapore)7 26-05-1938 07-09 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 11 N 28 ; 78 E 138 04-04-1972 08-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 21 N 09 ; 76 E 069 28-07-1946 04-36 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1710 10-04-1962 08-07 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 04 ; 80 E 1711 03-03-1956 11-59 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Ahmedabad12 28-08-1940 22-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) 13 N 55 ; 75 E 3413 24-04-1944 15-53-48Hrs( Time Zone 5-30(Hrs) 13 N 55 : 75 E 3414 16-10-1970 20-55 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Bangalore15 06-08-1953 22-27 Hrs (Time Zone 5-30 Hrs) Coimbatore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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