Pramod Mahajan Predictions on Vrishabha Lagna/Sarva Shri K.N.Rao & Madhu Nai

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||| aum namo bhagavate vAsudEvAya |||

 

Namste Pradeep and other members,

 

Shri KNRao's analysis with Vrishabha/Taurus Lagna is available at his

site. It is interesting to note that the inevitabiltiy of the event

was seen from many approaches.

 

<a

href= " http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm " >Pramod

Mahajan</a>

 

regards

-Prasad

 

sohamsa , " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Respected members

>

> Shri K.N.Raoji had predicted the following on the 24th of April.He is

> taking 1948,but Vrisha as Lagna.

> Madhu Nair ji had also predicted death,again with Vrisha Lagna but year

> as 1949.

> Chandrashekhar ji had raised concern regarding lagna and Physical

> apperance -Taurus looks appropriate.

>

> On 24th me too had ''clearly explained'' the event based on Mithuna

> Lagna ,proving again that any past event can be ''explained clearly''

> using any horoscope.If we use ''divisional horoscopes'' as well,one can

> write essays.

>

> Myself aadded that,if horoscope is correct ,3 planets in kendra & lagna

> lord in exaltation, guarantees longevity.Thus i feel Mithuna Lagna is

> not correct.

>

> Most importantly - One gets a feeling - Whom to believe regarding

> Celebrity horoscopes and their authenticities !!!!

>

> Kind regds

> Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

> > knrao [k_n_rao]

> > Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44

> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> > Re: Pramod Mahajan

> >

> > Pradeep,

> > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the

> > following details seem to be reliable:

> > 30 Oct 948

> > 19/51

> > Mahboobnagar

> > Lagna Vrisha 17/39

> > Moon in Kanya 21/35

> > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he drag on

> for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.

> > K.N.Rao

> >

> >

> >

>

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Wootla,

Namaskar. With Vrisabh Lagna, the Arudha lagna is in Makara and 3rd from it is Meena with Exalted Budh and Guru aspecting. It will certainly not give death due to firearms !

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================sohamsa , "vvootla" <vvootla wrote:>> ||| aum namo bhagavate vAsudEvAya |||> > Namste Pradeep and other members,> > Shri KNRao's analysis with Vrishabha/Taurus Lagna is available at his> site. It is interesting to note that the inevitabiltiy of the event> was seen from many approaches.> > <a> href="http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm">Pramod> Mahajan</a>> > regards> -Prasad> > sohamsa , "vijayadas_pradeep"> vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:> >> > Dear Respected members> > > > Shri K.N.Raoji had predicted the following on the 24th of April.He is> > taking 1948,but Vrisha as Lagna.> > Madhu Nair ji had also predicted death,again with Vrisha Lagna but year> > as 1949.> > Chandrashekhar ji had raised concern regarding lagna and Physical> > apperance -Taurus looks appropriate.> > > > On 24th me too had ''clearly explained'' the event based on Mithuna> > Lagna ,proving again that any past event can be ''explained clearly''> > using any horoscope.If we use ''divisional horoscopes'' as well,one can> > write essays.> > > > Myself aadded that,if horoscope is correct ,3 planets in kendra & lagna> > lord in exaltation, guarantees longevity.Thus i feel Mithuna Lagna is> > not correct.> > > > Most importantly - One gets a feeling - Whom to believe regarding> > Celebrity horoscopes and their authenticities !!!!> > > > Kind regds> > Pradeep> > >> > >> > > > > > knrao [k_n_rao@]> > > Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44> > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar> > > Re: Pramod Mahajan> > >> > > Pradeep,> > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the> > > following details seem to be reliable:> > > 30 Oct 948> > > 19/51> > > Mahboobnagar> > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39> > > Moon in Kanya 21/35> > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he drag on> > for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.> > > K.N.Rao> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sourav,

Similarly, didnt Vijayadas Pradeep post also that with Mithuna Lagna

there was a combination for long life? So then, Mithuna Lagna cant be

correct either.

 

The data we have before us is that there are 2 significantly different

systems of analysis (Sanjayji and KNRaoji's) which have both correctly

predicted the outcome. Simply by applying the extremely well known

principle of Occam's Razor (essentially that nature chooses the simpler

path i.e. the simpler theory - the one with less variables), if KNRaoji

continues to be consistently correct, his theories are the ones that

will eventually prevail.

 

Dont get me wrong, I personally am absolutely fascinated with the

understanding Sanjayji has provided to us in general, especially in the

understanding of spiritual aspects of a chart, but looking purely from

an empirical point of view, the simpler theory wins if it predicts

accurately.

 

Are there cases in which only one of the theories is correct?

 

Sundeep

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Wootla,

>

> Namaskar. With Vrisabh Lagna, the Arudha

> lagna is in Makara and 3rd from it is Meena with Exalted Budh and Guru

> aspecting. It will certainly not give death due to firearms !

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Friends, Without wanting to do much Post Analysis. Let me just give few of my thoughts in preference to Mithuna vs Tarus lagna just for sake of Jyotish understanding.For the Taurus take, Usually Sri KN Rao does not venture into predictions with famous personalities. His stand is that until he does not make a before hand correct prediction using a horoscope he does not get confidence. So we can assume that he may have been forced to work with insufficient time frame and data in this case due to enormous popularity and demand for this case.

His reasons, given in Italics above my take.Vimshottari dasha

In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka.He has given the reson only for Pratyantara Merc. The Sat-Rahu will be dasa even with Mithuna lagna. The Venus Pratyantara is conjoined still maraka Moon forming Rudra Yoga. The Antardasa Rahu is Maranakaaraka from MD Saturn using Saturn as Lagna for his current experiences. Even some tough experiences are possible.

Chara dasha

The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal.

As Per Narayana Dasa of D1 (An accurate versatile phalita dasa) Ge: 2000-10-31 (5:16:52) - 2004-10-31 (5:49:12) Aq: 2004-10-31 (5:49:12) - 2010-10-31 (18:46:32) Li: 2010-10-31 (18:46:32) - 2020-10-31 (8:19:21)

The Death cannot be analysed in this dasa. But the general situation around can be said.It was Aquarius the, The 1st 1/3 will be given by using Aq as Lagna, as Aquarius is shirshodaya sign. From Aquarius its seen that RAhu, co-lord of aquarius is in 3rd house. Indicating some fortune(9) related victory from co-borns is possible. Presence of no benefics in quadrant/trine to Aq indicates that it will a little difficult time in this regard. Entry chart for this period also indicates all malefics in quadrant to Libra rising for this period entry. This is just general fruits but death cannot be predicted using phalita dasa.

In Sthira dasha

The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing the violent incident.Instead of Sthira dasa, I will prefer to use Varnada dasa (troubles and death):

Maha Dasas: Ge: 1948-10-30 (21:21:00) - 1951-10-31 (15:45:23) Cn: 1951-10-31 (15:45:23) - 1955-10-31 (16:23:30) Le: 1955-10-31 (16:23:30) - 1960-10-30 (23:10:34) Vi: 1960-10-30 (23:10:34) - 1966-10-31 (12:02:36)

Li: 1966-10-31 (12:02:36) - 1973-10-31 (7:07:49) Sc: 1973-10-31 (7:07:49) - 1981-10-31 (8:18:07) Sg: 1981-10-31 (8:18:07) - 1990-10-31 (15:39:18) Cp: 1990-10-31 (15:39:18) - 2000-10-31 (5:16:52) Aq: 2000-10-31 (5:16:52) - 2011-11-01 (0:55:15)

Pi: 2011-11-01 (0:55:15) - 2011-11-01 (0:55:15)Aq dasa gave deathVarnada dasa (troubles and death): Aq MD: 2000-10-31 (5:16:52) - 2011-11-01 (0:55:15) Antardasas in this MD: Aq: 2000-10-31 (5:16:52) - 2001-10-01 (5:14:32)

Pi: 2001-10-01 (5:14:32) - 2002-08-31 (16:52:04) Ar: 2002-08-31 (16:52:04) - 2003-07-31 (17:54:50) Ta: 2003-07-31 (17:54:50) - 2004-06-29 (13:34:18) Ge: 2004-06-29 (13:34:18) - 2005-05-29 (10:24:32)

Cn: 2005-05-29 (10:24:32) - 2006-04-28 (14:30:12) Le: 2006-04-28 (14:30:12) - 2007-03-29 (6:13:40)

Vi: 2007-03-29 (6:13:40) - 2008-02-27 (10:21:04) Li: 2008-02-27 (10:21:04) - 2009-01-28 (0:30:17) Sc: 2009-01-28 (0:30:17) - 2009-12-29 (19:41:56)

Sg: 2009-12-29 (19:41:56) - 2010-11-30 (13:48:19) Cp: 2010-11-30 (13:48:19) - 2011-11-01 (0:55:15)The middle one third gave death, Since Aq is shirshodaya sign and it's lord Rahu is in Prishtodaya sign. The aspects gave the results in middle part. The Aspects on Aq are Aries-Rahu, Cancer-None/Maraka, Libra-Sun+Ketu(3rd and 6th Lord).

Since Sun is very lower in degrees compared to Rahu-Ketu here in this case, Rahu in 8th from Arudha, gave results of it's dispositor Mars in 3rd from Arudha. Both 8th and 8th from 8th 3rd from Arudha are hence activated. Since Aquarius has no benefic planets in quadrants/trines this dasa can be difficult for logevity. Moreover DAsa pravesha for Aq Varanada dasa also has all malefics in quadrants.

 

The transit of the day

Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out.The Moon signs remains same so does the Mithuna lagna lord Mercury. So some trouble to Health(Moon) and Dhishakti-(Lagna Lord mercury) is hence indicated in this transit. Hence, I would still prefer to Use the mithuna lagna chart since Pundit Sanjay Rath has also given consultations using the same.Warm RegardsSanjay POn 5/4/06, vvootla <vvootla wrote:

||| aum namo bhagavate vAsudEvAya |||Namste Pradeep and other members,Shri KNRao's analysis with Vrishabha/Taurus Lagna is available at hissite. It is interesting to note that the inevitabiltiy of the event

was seen from many approaches.<ahref= " http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm " >Pramod

Mahajan</a>regards-Prasadsohamsa , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Respected members

>> Shri K.N.Raoji had predicted the following on the 24th of April.He is> taking 1948,but Vrisha as Lagna.> Madhu Nair ji had also predicted death,again with Vrisha Lagna but year> as 1949.

> Chandrashekhar ji had raised concern regarding lagna and Physical> apperance -Taurus looks appropriate.>> On 24th me too had ''clearly explained'' the event based on Mithuna> Lagna ,proving again that any past event can be ''explained clearly''

> using any horoscope.If we use ''divisional horoscopes'' as well,one can> write essays.>> Myself aadded that,if horoscope is correct ,3 planets in kendra & lagna> lord in exaltation, guarantees longevity.Thus i feel Mithuna Lagna is> not correct.>> Most importantly - One gets a feeling - Whom to believe regarding> Celebrity horoscopes and their authenticities !!!!>> Kind regds

> Pradeep> >> >> > > > knrao [k_n_rao]> > Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> > Re: Pramod Mahajan> >> > Pradeep,> > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the> > following details seem to be reliable:> > 30 Oct 948

> > 19/51> > Mahboobnagar> > Lagna Vrisha 17/39> > Moon in Kanya 21/35> > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he drag on> for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.

> > K.N.Rao> >> >> >>

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sundeep, Namaskar

As far as i know Apamrityu (untimely death) cannot be estimated using normal

longevity calculations. That is a statement by Vaidyanath Dikshita, author

of Jataka Parijata.

But you are right; by all five methods of longevity calculations known to

me, the horoscope has long life, specifically between 64-96. Again this

chart is a case of apamrityu which could not be removed, as Jupiter is not

placed in the 1st/5th from Arudha Lagna (Jaimini).

The charts that Sanjayji has provided with the cases of Apamrityu all work

quite well with the principles provided by Jagannath Rath, i.e. gochara of

Shani, Surya, etc from the arudhas. Infact as Sanjayji qouted from his

grandfather: these principles are only applied to 'average people' who are

not fully devoted to God and who do not life a pious life.

Based on this i believe we should have a different approach to the longevity

in such charts.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

vedicastrostudent

04 May 2006 19:25

sohamsa

Re: Pramod Mahajan Predictions on Vrishabha Lagna/Sarva

Shri K.N.Rao & Madhu Nai

 

Dear Sourav,

Similarly, didnt Vijayadas Pradeep post also that with Mithuna Lagna

there was a combination for long life? So then, Mithuna Lagna cant be

correct either.

 

The data we have before us is that there are 2 significantly different

systems of analysis (Sanjayji and KNRaoji's) which have both correctly

predicted the outcome. Simply by applying the extremely well known

principle of Occam's Razor (essentially that nature chooses the simpler

path i.e. the simpler theory - the one with less variables), if KNRaoji

continues to be consistently correct, his theories are the ones that

will eventually prevail.

 

Dont get me wrong, I personally am absolutely fascinated with the

understanding Sanjayji has provided to us in general, especially in the

understanding of spiritual aspects of a chart, but looking purely from

an empirical point of view, the simpler theory wins if it predicts

accurately.

 

Are there cases in which only one of the theories is correct?

 

Sundeep

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Wootla,

>

> Namaskar. With Vrisabh Lagna, the Arudha

> lagna is in Makara and 3rd from it is Meena with Exalted Budh and Guru

> aspecting. It will certainly not give death due to firearms !

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*tat savitur varenyam*

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

I try to read all your posts, always, this one I missed somehow.

And this is very important issue- 'untimely death'-

You refer to Sanjay's teaching on Sun & all gochara from the Arudas

-I've recently refreshed some arooda-lessons /third from Al, 8th,

etc/

wish if you would elaborate on this particular issue in your

succinct yet precise manner.

Love,

Anna

PS: Do you feel sometimes that Saturn is 'not that bad' for Scorpio

lagna?

 

sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sundeep, Namaskar

> As far as i know Apamrityu (untimely death) cannot be estimated

using normal

> longevity calculations. That is a statement by Vaidyanath

Dikshita, author

> of Jataka Parijata.

> But you are right; by all five methods of longevity calculations

known to

> me, the horoscope has long life, specifically between 64-96. Again

this

> chart is a case of apamrityu which could not be removed, as

Jupiter is not

> placed in the 1st/5th from Arudha Lagna (Jaimini).

> The charts that Sanjayji has provided with the cases of Apamrityu

all work

> quite well with the principles provided by Jagannath Rath, i.e.

gochara of

> Shani, Surya, etc from the arudhas. Infact as Sanjayji qouted from

his

> grandfather: these principles are only applied to 'average

people' who are

> not fully devoted to God and who do not life a pious life.

> Based on this i believe we should have a different approach to the

longevity

> in such charts.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> vedicastrostudent

> 04 May 2006 19:25

> sohamsa

> Re: Pramod Mahajan Predictions on Vrishabha

Lagna/Sarva

> Shri K.N.Rao & Madhu Nai

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Similarly, didnt Vijayadas Pradeep post also that with Mithuna

Lagna

> there was a combination for long life? So then, Mithuna Lagna cant

be

> correct either.

>

> The data we have before us is that there are 2 significantly

different

> systems of analysis (Sanjayji and KNRaoji's) which have both

correctly

> predicted the outcome. Simply by applying the extremely well known

> principle of Occam's Razor (essentially that nature chooses the

simpler

> path i.e. the simpler theory - the one with less variables), if

KNRaoji

> continues to be consistently correct, his theories are the ones

that

> will eventually prevail.

>

> Dont get me wrong, I personally am absolutely fascinated with the

> understanding Sanjayji has provided to us in general, especially

in the

> understanding of spiritual aspects of a chart, but looking purely

from

> an empirical point of view, the simpler theory wins if it predicts

> accurately.

>

> Are there cases in which only one of the theories is correct?

>

> Sundeep

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Wootla,

> >

> > Namaskar. With Vrisabh Lagna, the

Arudha

> > lagna is in Makara and 3rd from it is Meena with Exalted Budh

and Guru

> > aspecting. It will certainly not give death due to firearms !

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

>

*tat savitur varenyam*

>

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Andrew, Namaskar

The principle about the transit from Arudha is quite simple and is as

follows:

i) Saturn should transit the trines from the arudha lagna or its seventh

(whichever is stronger).

ii) the Sun should transit the trines to the A8 or its seventh (whichever is

stronger).

iii) the day or tithi will be that of the planets lording the fifth house.

This is to be confirmed with nakshatra transits.

iv) the transit lagna will be in trines to the arudha lagna.

 

These are the basic steps, but they do not apply to ALL cases. Until i know

better i would advise to apply this in cases of Dushta marana yoga or

apamrityu.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

bona_mente

08 May 2006 09:15

sohamsa

Re: Pramod Mahajan Predictions on Vrishabha Lagna/Sarva

Shri K.N.Rao & Madhu Nai

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

I try to read all your posts, always, this one I missed somehow.

And this is very important issue- 'untimely death'-

You refer to Sanjay's teaching on Sun & all gochara from the Arudas

-I've recently refreshed some arooda-lessons /third from Al, 8th,

etc/

wish if you would elaborate on this particular issue in your

succinct yet precise manner.

Love,

Anna

PS: Do you feel sometimes that Saturn is 'not that bad' for Scorpio

lagna?

 

sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sundeep, Namaskar

> As far as i know Apamrityu (untimely death) cannot be estimated

using normal

> longevity calculations. That is a statement by Vaidyanath

Dikshita, author

> of Jataka Parijata.

> But you are right; by all five methods of longevity calculations

known to

> me, the horoscope has long life, specifically between 64-96. Again

this

> chart is a case of apamrityu which could not be removed, as

Jupiter is not

> placed in the 1st/5th from Arudha Lagna (Jaimini).

> The charts that Sanjayji has provided with the cases of Apamrityu

all work

> quite well with the principles provided by Jagannath Rath, i.e.

gochara of

> Shani, Surya, etc from the arudhas. Infact as Sanjayji qouted from

his

> grandfather: these principles are only applied to 'average

people' who are

> not fully devoted to God and who do not life a pious life.

> Based on this i believe we should have a different approach to the

longevity

> in such charts.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> vedicastrostudent

> 04 May 2006 19:25

> sohamsa

> Re: Pramod Mahajan Predictions on Vrishabha

Lagna/Sarva

> Shri K.N.Rao & Madhu Nai

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Similarly, didnt Vijayadas Pradeep post also that with Mithuna

Lagna

> there was a combination for long life? So then, Mithuna Lagna cant

be

> correct either.

>

> The data we have before us is that there are 2 significantly

different

> systems of analysis (Sanjayji and KNRaoji's) which have both

correctly

> predicted the outcome. Simply by applying the extremely well known

> principle of Occam's Razor (essentially that nature chooses the

simpler

> path i.e. the simpler theory - the one with less variables), if

KNRaoji

> continues to be consistently correct, his theories are the ones

that

> will eventually prevail.

>

> Dont get me wrong, I personally am absolutely fascinated with the

> understanding Sanjayji has provided to us in general, especially

in the

> understanding of spiritual aspects of a chart, but looking purely

from

> an empirical point of view, the simpler theory wins if it predicts

> accurately.

>

> Are there cases in which only one of the theories is correct?

>

> Sundeep

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Wootla,

> >

> > Namaskar. With Vrisabh Lagna, the

Arudha

> > lagna is in Makara and 3rd from it is Meena with Exalted Budh

and Guru

> > aspecting. It will certainly not give death due to firearms !

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

>

*tat savitur varenyam*

>