Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear Prabhakaran, SANGHTIK(16TH),VAINASHIK(23RD) etc are generally used in various chakaras where 28 nakshatra scheme is followed including Abhjit. In 27 nakshatra scheme 22rd will become Vainasik. As a matter of fact vainasik should be of utility mainly in chakaras. G.K.GOELSanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Freedom, This is regarding your web article at http://www.shrifreedom.com/jyotishNavatara.shtml, (Exact lines given below the email). The Numbering of the special nakshatra's are in variation with Jataka Parijata, which I was refering to.Jataka Paarijaataka says the following, atha janmatArAdayaH |janmarxamAdyaM dashamantu karma sAMGYatikaM ShoDashabhaM vadanti |aShTAdasha syAt samudAyasaMGYamAdhAnamekonitaviMshatiH syAt || 79||trayoviMshatinaxatraM vainAshikamini nmR^itam |jAtideshAbhikAtvyAH pa~NcavishAdinArakAH || 80|| jnmatArAdayo yanya viddhaH pApaviya~ncaraiH |sadyo mR^ityukarAstasya shubhaiH shubhaphalapradAH || 81||(ITrans from sanskrit.gde.to/In Sanskrit/Roman Fonts given below email ). For example "trayovimshatinaxatram" 23 is told as "vainashikam", etc. There may some mistakes in JP text/translations also Hence,I would like to know your reference for your article.-Warm RegardsSanjay P Special Taras (28 Stars) Special Taras Meaning Naksatra Lord 1 Janma Birth 10 Karma Profession 18 Samudayika Crowd 16 Sanghatika Group 4 Jaati Community 7 Naidhana Death 12 Desa Country 28 Abhisheka Coronation 19 Aadhaana Conception 22 Vainasika Destruction 25 Maanasa Mind Janma - You, the crucial reference pointKarma - Profession, 10 th from the Janma naksatra, needs to be well placed to work properly, transits here effect one's work.Samudayika - Crowd, 18 th in cycle, samudaya means totaling or sum total, all the people coming together.Sanghatika - Group, 16 th in cycle, inner (core) groupJaati - Community, caste, one's social group, 4 th in the cycle, it is the same as the kshema star, which is community, so a strong community represents good well-being (bad community will deny the proper advice that leads to well-being).Naidhana - Death, 7 th naksatra, as the Janma is both a navatara and a special tara it shows that these are very important points in birth and death.Desa - Country, nation, culture (Orissa verse India ), 12 th starAbhisheka - Coronation, 13 th starAadhaana - Conception, 19 th star, this is 9 stars before the Janma naksatra which shows circumstances around the conception. Malefics will confirm troubles with pregnancy.Vainasika - Destruction, 22 nd naksatraMaanasa - Mind, the 11 th naksatra, that which controls the mind, obsessions अथ जनà¥à¤®à¤¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¾à¤¦à¤¯à¤ƒà¥¤atha janmatÄrÄdayaḥ |जनà¥à¤®à¤°à¥à¤•à¥à¤·à¤®à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¤‚ दशमनà¥à¤¤à¥ करà¥à¤® सांजà¥à¤žà¤¤à¤¿à¤•à¤‚ षोडशà¤à¤‚ वदनà¥à¤¤à¤¿à¥¤ अषà¥à¤Ÿà¤¾à¤¦à¤¶ सà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¤à¥ समà¥à¤¦à¤¾à¤¯à¤¸à¤‚जà¥à¤žà¤®à¤¾à¤§à¤¾à¤¨à¤®à¥‡à¤•à¥‹à¤¨à¤¿à¤¤à¤µà¤¿à¤‚शतिः सà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¥ à¥à¥¯à¥¥janmarká¹£amÄdyaá¹ daÅ›amantu karma sÄá¹jñatikaá¹ á¹£oá¸aÅ›abhaá¹ vadanti |aá¹£á¹ÄdaÅ›a syÄt samudÄyasaá¹jñamÄdhÄnamekonitaviá¹Å›atiḥ syÄt || 79||तà¥à¤°à¤¯à¥‹à¤µà¤¿à¤‚शतिनकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤‚ वैनाशिकमिनि नà¥à¤®à¥ƒà¤¤à¤®à¥à¥¤ जातिदेशाà¤à¤¿à¤•à¤¾à¤¤à¥à¤µà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤ƒ पङà¥à¤šà¤µà¤¿à¤¶à¤¾à¤¦à¤¿à¤¨à¤¾à¤°à¤•à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¥ ८०॥trayoviá¹Å›atinaká¹£atraá¹ vainÄÅ›ikamini nmá¹›tam |jÄtideÅ›ÄbhikÄtvyÄḥ paá¹…caviÅ›ÄdinÄrakÄḥ || 80||जà¥à¤¨à¥à¤®à¤¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¾à¤¦à¤¯à¥‹ यनà¥à¤¯ विदà¥à¤§à¤ƒ पापवियञà¥à¤šà¤°à¥ˆà¤ƒà¥¤à¤¸à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¥‹ मृतà¥à¤¯à¥à¤•à¤°à¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¤¸à¥à¤¯ शà¥à¤à¥ˆà¤ƒ शà¥à¤à¤«à¤²à¤ªà¥à¤°à¤¦à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¥ ८१॥ jnmatÄrÄdayo yanya viddhaḥ pÄpaviyañcaraiḥ |sadyo má¹›tyukarÄstasya Å›ubhaiḥ Å›ubhaphalapradÄḥ || 81|| Find out what India is talking about on Answers India. Send FREE SMS from New Messenger to Mobile: Download NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Hare Rama Krishna Dear Freedom, Thank you for your reply. >do know that I had observed some variation between JP and a lesson where guruji taught another nakshatra >chakra (maybe it was sarvatobhadra…).Yes, even I refered to his Sarvatobhadra Conference, There Guruji gives an assignment similar to JP. The confusion arose because CoVA and JHora computations are different. Hence I asked you about it. Thank you also for pointing to Parashara, I think, I will depend on Jaatak Paarijaat (/Guruji's Sarvotobhadra conference) for now. Thank youSanjay P On 7/19/06, freeflowaum <freeflowaum wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Namaskar Sanjay P, I do not see where you are referencing what I wrote, and it has been a while since I wrote on navatara, but I do know that I had observed some variation between JP and a lesson where guruji taught another nakshatra chakra (maybe it was sarvatobhadra…). Also, to note for your research, Parashara mentions navatara in the maraka chapter. Best of Luck. Namah Sivaya sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Prabhakaran Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:50 AM sohamsa Re: Special Nakshatra Numbering difference Attn: Shree Freedom Cole || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Goelji, Thank you, I was planning to write an article hence was also looking for references which I can quote. The phaladeepika does not give numbers, The only other place I could find the numbers were in Jataka Parijata. Hence I asked for the reference. Can you also please tell about Maanasa naksatra too. Maansa as per CoVA is at 25. Also JP says " jAtideshAbhikAtvyAH pa~NcavishAdinArakAH || 80|| " Jaati, Desha is 25 and 26. There was a variation given at 4th and 12th respectively (CoVA) Hence I asked. The variation is by more tha 1 nakshatra difference so this could not be explained by 27 vs 28 Nakshatra scheme. Hence I was looking for references. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 7/18/06, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > wrote: Dear Prabhakaran, SANGHTIK(16TH),VAINASHIK(23RD) etc are generally used in various chakaras where 28 nakshatra scheme is followed including Abhjit. In 27 nakshatra scheme 22rd will become Vainasik. As a matter of fact vainasik should be of utility mainly in chakaras. G.K.GOEL Sanjay Prabhakaran < sanjaychettiar > wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Freedom, This is regarding your web article at http://www.shrifreedom.com/jyotishNavatara.shtml, (Exact lines given below the email). The Numbering of the special nakshatra's are in variation with Jataka Parijata, which I was refering to. Jataka Paarijaataka says the following, atha janmatArAdayaH | janmarxamAdyaM dashamantu karma sAMGYatikaM ShoDashabhaM vadanti | aShTAdasha syAt samudAyasaMGYamAdhAnamekonitaviMshatiH syAt || 79|| trayoviMshatinaxatraM vainAshikamini nmR^itam | jAtideshAbhikAtvyAH pa~NcavishAdinArakAH || 80|| jnmatArAdayo yanya viddhaH pApaviya~ncaraiH | sadyo mR^ityukarAstasya shubhaiH shubhaphalapradAH || 81|| (ITrans from sanskrit.gde.to/In Sanskrit/Roman Fonts given below email ). For example " trayovimshatinaxatram " 23 is told as " vainashikam " , etc. There may some mistakes in JP text/translations also Hence, I would like to know your reference for your article. -Warm Regards Sanjay P Special Taras (28 Stars) Special Taras Meaning Naksatra Lord 1 Janma Birth 10 Karma Profession 18 Samudayika Crowd 16 Sanghatika Group 4 Jaati Community 7 Naidhana Death 12 Desa Country 28 Abhisheka Coronation 19 Aadhaana Conception 22 Vainasika Destruction 25 Maanasa Mind Janma - You, the crucial reference point Karma - Profession, 10 th from the Janma naksatra, needs to be well placed to work properly, transits here effect one's work. Samudayika - Crowd, 18 th in cycle, samudaya means totaling or sum total, all the people coming together. Sanghatika - Group, 16 th in cycle, inner (core) group Jaati - Community, caste, one's social group, 4 th in the cycle, it is the same as the kshema star, which is community, so a strong community represents good well-being (bad community will deny the proper advice that leads to well-being). Naidhana - Death, 7 th naksatra, as the Janma is both a navatara and a special tara it shows that these are very important points in birth and death. Desa - Country, nation, culture (Orissa verse India ), 12 th star Abhisheka - Coronation, 13 th star Aadhaana - Conception, 19 th star, this is 9 stars before the Janma naksatra which shows circumstances around the conception. Malefics will confirm troubles with pregnancy. Vainasika - Destruction, 22 nd naksatra Maanasa - Mind, the 11 th naksatra, that which controls the mind, obsessions अथ जनà¥à¤®à¤¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¾à¤¦à¤¯à¤ƒà¥¤ atha janmatÄrÄdayaḥ | जनà¥à¤®à¤°à¥à¤•à¥à¤·à¤®à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¤‚ दशमनà¥à¤¤à¥ करà¥à¤® सांजà¥à¤žà¤¤à¤¿à¤•à¤‚ षोडश�Âं वदनà¥à¤¤à¤¿à¥¤ अषà¥à¤Ÿà¤¾à¤¦à¤¶ सà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¤à¥ समà¥à¤¦à¤¾à¤¯à¤¸à¤‚जà¥à¤žà¤®à¤¾à¤§à¤¾à¤¨à¤®à¥‡à¤•à¥‹à¤¨à¤¿à¤¤à¤µà¤¿à¤‚शतिः सà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¥ � ९॥ janmarká¹£amÄdyaá¹ daÅ›amantu karma sÄ á¹jñatikaá¹ á¹£oá¸aÅ›abhaá¹ vadanti | aṣ�ÂÄdaÅ›a syÄt samudÄyasaá¹ jñamÄdhÄnamekonitaviá¹Å›atiḥ syÄt || 79|| तà¥à¤°à¤¯à¥‹à¤µà¤¿à¤‚शतिनकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤‚ वैनाशिकमिनि नà¥à¤®à¥ƒà¤¤à¤®à¥à¥¤ जातिदेशा�Âिकातà¥à¤µà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤ƒ पङà¥à¤šà¤µà¤¿à¤¶à¤¾à¤¦à¤¿à¤¨à¤¾à¤°à¤•à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¥ ८०॥ trayoviá¹Å›atinaká¹£atra á¹ vainÄÅ›ikamini nmá¹›tam | jÄtideÅ›ÄbhikÄtvyÄḥ paá¹…caviÅ›ÄdinÄrakÄ á¸¥ || 80|| जà¥à¤¨à¥à¤®à¤¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¾à¤¦à¤¯à¥‹ यनà¥à¤¯ विदà¥à¤§à¤ƒ पापवियञà¥à¤šà¤°à¥ˆà¤ƒà¥¤ सदà¥à¤¯à¥‹ मृतà¥à¤¯à¥à¤•à¤°à¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¤¸à¥à¤¯ शà¥ï¿½Âैः शà¥ï¿½Â फलपà¥à¤°à¤¦à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¥ ८१॥ jnmatÄrÄdayo yanya viddhaḥ pÄpaviyañcaraiḥ | sadyo má¹›tyukarÄstasya Å›ubhaiḥ Å›ubhaphalapradÄḥ || 81|| Find out what India is talking about on Answers India. 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