RE: Longevity estimation

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Dear Tijana, Namaskar

I have added some comments.

- Using three pairs he gets middle lifespan from 36-72.

- Using the eighth lord, we have two lords to choose from, among which Rahu gets ayus-exaltation and besides Rahu is stronger than Shani in this case. Rahu is in a panaphara indicating middle life also.

- The three lords also hint at middle lifespan, but a planetary war between tenth lord Venus and Jupiter, does not bode auspicious.

 

There is Kakshya Hrasa due to chandraastama dosha (Jaimini), thus reducing the lifespan to Alpa Ayur (0-36) but not likely to be Baal nor Yogarishta, thus leading the lifespan to be between 20-36. I have noted that his demise was in June 1980, which was his 34th year thus suiting the reduction in lifespan.

 

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of tijanadamjanovic14 September 2006 21:24sohamsa Subject: Longevity estimation

 

 

Om Namo NarayanayaI have a question for Sanjayji and is also related to S. Gandhi`s longevity.As 7th house in this case is stronger than the ascendant, the eight lord is Saturn. It is placed in kendra thus showing long life. Is Saturn`s placement in the 7th house sufficient reason for Kaksha hrasa, or is it that Rahu`s placement in 5th, Mars`in 12th and affliction of AK also contributed to this? Can we say that arishta that chandra ashtama causes is cancelled due to daylight birth in Krishna paksha? I don`t know for sure when Sanjay Gandhi died, but if there is a reason for longevity decrease then Saturn`s placement shows second half of a middle life span, i.e. period from 39-46.Sincerely, Tijana

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Om Namo Narayanaya Dear Visti, Thank You very much for Your comments. They made this situation clear to me. Choosing the Saturn instead Rahu wasn`t the only mistake I made here. So, Chandra is the main reason for Kaksha hrasa in this case. Would Chandra`s position caused the same if Jupiter had the inffluence on lagna aspecting it? What about malefics in 5th, 7th and 12th? Sincerely, TijanaVisti Larsen <visti wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Tijana, Namaskar I have added some comments. - Using three pairs he gets middle lifespan from 36-72. - Using the eighth lord, we have two lords to choose from, among which Rahu gets ayus-exaltation and besides Rahu is stronger than Shani in this case. Rahu is in a panaphara indicating middle life also. - The three lords also hint at middle lifespan, but a planetary war between tenth lord Venus

and Jupiter, does not bode auspicious. There is Kakshya Hrasa due to chandraastama dosha (Jaimini), thus reducing the lifespan to Alpa Ayur (0-36) but not likely to be Baal nor Yogarishta, thus leading the lifespan to be between 20-36. I have noted that his demise was in June 1980, which was his 34th year thus suiting the reduction in lifespan. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of tijanadamjanovic14 September 2006 21:24sohamsa Subject: Longevity estimation Om Namo NarayanayaI have a question for Sanjayji and is also related to S. Gandhi`s longevity.As 7th house in this case is stronger than the ascendant, the eight lord is Saturn. It is placed in kendra thus showing

long life. Is Saturn`s placement in the 7th house sufficient reason for Kaksha hrasa, or is it that Rahu`s placement in 5th, Mars`in 12th and affliction of AK also contributed to this? Can we say that arishta that chandra ashtama causes is cancelled due to daylight birth in Krishna paksha? I don`t know for sure when Sanjay Gandhi died, but if there is a reason for longevity decrease then Saturn`s placement shows second half of a middle life span, i.e. period from 39-46.Sincerely, Tijana

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|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Tijana, Namaskar.

Keep in mind that we have a difference of increase/decrease in

kakshya/khanda which is 36 years, in comparisen with the

increase/decrease of a rasi/dasa which is 9 years.

Answers given point wise below to help appreciate them:

i) Guru has to be in the first/seventh houses to increase the

longevity, but must also not be afflicted by Saturn and Mars (jointly)

otherwise this becomes the reverse and results in a reduction in the

Kakshya itself (again Jaimini). This is an important exception to the

'guru-rule'. We can call it ths 'Jeeva rule'. Specifically Jaimini

states that the reduction occurs if Guru is in kendra to lagna and

afflicted by both Shani and Mangal.

 

ii) In addition (which will be of interest), Jaimini states to look at

the bhoga rasi of Guru. This means the Arudha of the rasi where Guru is

placed. If Shani joins this, then also a reduction in the kaksya

occurs. This ALSO occurs in the chart of Sanjay Gandhi as Guru's bhoga

rasi is Karka. However, i don't think Shani would cause a reduction in

the longevity if in Karka, but Jaimini doesn't make any exception of

this.

 

iii) The aspect of Jupiter or strong benefics on the lagna do not

increase the Kakshya but can increase the Rasi. That is, they can add

nine years to the lifespan. The only benefics aspecting the lagna in

this case is Moon and Mercury, where Moon's paksha bala is not strong,

whilst Mercury is 'less' benefic due to the malefic conjunction. So an

addition of nine years doesn't apply in this case. But had Venus

aspected then definitely it would be so.

 

iv) The analysis of the fifth, seventh twelfth, etc. has to be done

with reference to bandhana yogas. That is: there must be malefics in

BOTH bhavas. The bhavas mentioned are first/seventh, second/twelfth and

fifth/ninth. Malefics here will reduce the lifespan, like when diseases

or bad circumstances afflict the health. This is seen from both Lagna

and Atmakaraka.

From Sanjay Gandhi's chart a match of both malefics and benefics in

these bhavas exists, or a lack of malefics in some cases, so we cannot

say that this applies to his chart.

 

The only principles we haven't dealt with are: i)Ayus Vipareetam,

ii)Shani reduction and iii) lagnesha reduction, which again come under

the 'kakshya hrasa/vriddhi'.

Yours sincerely,

 

Visti Larsen

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tijana damjanovic wrote:

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

Dear Visti,

Thank You very much for Your comments. They made this situation

clear to me. Choosing the Saturn instead Rahu wasn`t the only mistake I

made here.

So, Chandra is the main reason for Kaksha hrasa in this case.

Would Chandra`s position caused the same if Jupiter had the inffluence

on lagna aspecting it? What about malefics in 5th, 7th and 12th?

Sincerely, Tijana

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Tijana, Namaskar

I have added some comments.

- Using three pairs he gets middle lifespan from 36-72.

 

- Using the eighth lord, we have two lords to choose

from, among which Rahu gets ayus-exaltation and besides Rahu is

stronger than Shani in this case. Rahu is in a panaphara indicating

middle life also.

- The three lords also hint at middle lifespan, but a

planetary war between tenth lord Venus and Jupiter, does not bode

auspicious.

There is Kakshya Hrasa due to chandraastama dosha

(Jaimini), thus reducing the lifespan to Alpa Ayur (0-36) but not

likely to be Baal nor Yogarishta, thus leading the lifespan to be

between 20-36. I have noted that his demise was in June 1980, which was

his 34th year thus suiting the reduction in lifespan.

Best wishes,

***

 

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda. com

 

 

***

 

 

 

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[sohamsa] On Behalf Of tijanadamjanovic

14 September 2006 21:24

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Longevity estimation

 

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

I have a question for Sanjayji and is also related to S. Gandhi`s

longevity.

As 7th house in this case is stronger than the ascendant, the eight

lord is Saturn. It is placed in kendra thus showing long life. Is

Saturn`s placement in the 7th house sufficient reason for Kaksha hrasa,

 

or is it that Rahu`s placement in 5th, Mars`in 12th and affliction of

AK also contributed to this? Can we say that arishta that chandra

ashtama causes is cancelled due to daylight birth in Krishna paksha? I

don`t know for sure when Sanjay Gandhi died, but if there is a reason

for longevity decrease then Saturn`s placement shows second half of a

middle life span, i.e. period from 39-46.

Sincerely,

Tijana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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