To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

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Dear Swee-ji,

Namaskar. I have several questions regarding gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?

2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?

3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high quality, less weight ?

4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological reason.

5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

Best wishes,

Sourav

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Dear Swee-ji,

Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?

Thank you.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels,> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> Mithuna lagna (please check).> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note the word,> small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a king who> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for one carat> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > Answer to your questions:> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­ that goes> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> Khanda II Ch 16.24 > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?> > > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> > > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high> > quality, less weight ?> > > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are> > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that> > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological> > reason.> > > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > =================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house. Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels, wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a Mithuna lagna (please check).

Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour. As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word, small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 = 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster, then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

 

Answer to your questions:

The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that goes for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.

Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree, the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm. Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar. Khanda II Ch 16.24

Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that, we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

 

On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

Namaskar. I have several questions regarding gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

 

1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?

 

2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?

 

3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high quality, less weight ?

 

4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological reason.

 

5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

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Dear Swee Ji, namaskar, I am amazed to see your knowledge on gems. I am wearing Diamond (0.72 carats, one stone), Emerald(abt 6 ratti) and Blue supphire (abt 6 ratti, dark peacock blue color). My birth details is DOB 31.07.1971 TOB 11.11Hrs POB: Gorakhpur (UP) Wearing Emerald for more than 2 years Wearing Diamond and Blue Supphire since Nov 05 I am not getting any desired results. Please guide me as if I am wearing correct gems. Regards, BKKSwee Chan <sweechan wrote: Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaDear Sourav,NamasteI think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me). Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is to be avoided. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which comes to

the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience, you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for. The famous Yellow Topaz

that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck

(which is my preference) or the fingers. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.Love,Sweesweechan (AT) mac (DOT) comOn 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna

||Dear Swee-ji, Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a

flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?Thank you.Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all

other jewels,> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> Mithuna lagna (please check).> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,> small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> diamond with

it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > Answer to your questions:> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that goes> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT

what> is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> considered a malefic. If we

agree on this, it also goes with the statement> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.> Khanda II Ch 16.24 > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested> in the

puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > >

> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?> > > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> > > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high> > quality, less weight ?> > > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are> > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that> > from the stability of the cystal perspective

or from beauty perspective, some> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological> > reason.> > > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > =================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Dear Swee-ji,

Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is interesting.

2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?

3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula.

In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

Thank you in anticipation.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is> to be avoided. > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz comes in> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> gemstone does harm to your body.> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round the neck> (which is my preference) or the fingers.> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on the> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.> > > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article).> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is> > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person> > earlier ?> > > > Thank you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ==============================================================================> > ===================> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good> >> to> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th> >> house.> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it> >> does> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other> >> jewels,> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> >> recollection> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with >>> the> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note the word,> >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>> and> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a king who> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for one carat> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­ that> >> goes> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance.> >> Those> >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> >> sapphire> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> >> suggested> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn> >> by> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> >>> > > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values> are> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how> >>> much> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights> ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example,> >>> high> >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also,> are> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand> >>> that> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective,> >>> some> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> >>> astrological> >>> > > reason.> >>> > > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > =================================================================> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Swee Ji

I was reading your below stated article and

"The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body."

I was asked to wear yellow topaz or yellow sapphire ( of course this is expensive). I am going thru Jupiter MD with Venus AD, since I have rahu in my 9th house and is in aries lagna and is 2nd to ul which is saturn. So please tell or guide me about this. Since this has confused me as I am going thru a very rough time and although I have not seen any effect or changes after wearing yellow topaz.

You have mentioned about Gaurav Jain. Will you mind giving his contact details on email

Your reply will be very helpful.

Regards

 

Vipin Wadhawan

E-mail : vipinshash

 

 

 

Swee Chan <sweechansohamsa To: Sohamsa <sohamsa >Re: Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstonesWed, 20 Sep 2006 11:28:06 -0700

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaDear Sourav,NamasteI think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

 

Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is to be avoided.

Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience, you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.

The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body.

As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck (which is my preference) or the fingers.

As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.Love,Sweesweechan (AT) mac (DOT) comOn 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Swee-ji, Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?Thank you.Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels,> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> Mithuna lagna (please check).> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,> small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > Answer to your questions:> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that goes> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.> Khanda II Ch 16.24 > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?> > > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> > > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high> > quality, less weight ?> > > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are> > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that> > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological> > reason.> > > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > =================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Swee,

I am looking for Blue Sapphire and I live in Canada.

Could you please refer me to somebody or some store.

Thanks

Manoj Sharma

--- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

 

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> I think someone is supposed to re-write the

> gemological section in the VRA

> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I

> simply do not agree with

> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>

> 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated

> Mercury. Now, the gemstone

> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana

> categorically states that this is

> to be avoided.

> 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never

> NOT heat treated. Which

> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone

> is heat treated? The

> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade,

> 10x magnification is the

> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at

> least about 80x, you

> should be able to make the ripples caused by the

> heating. From experience,

> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have

> that extra lustre that a

> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated

> yellow sapphire, it

> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to

> purchase the rough or

> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone

> and facets the

> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people,

> but Sri Lankan and Indian

> facets on colour gemstones are still not

> internationally accepted. If you

> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps

> help you. Though his

> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get

> what you request for.

> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended

> ­ ALL, topaz comes in

> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow

> topaz is irradiated. So it

> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the

> radiation from the

> gemstone does harm to your body.

> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7

> ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats

> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay

> ji to answer. But the

> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest

> planet, hence a tendency

> for a weight challenged person to put on a

> ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will

> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your

> question: Is bigger

> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats

> sufficent? I have seen very good

> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer

> puja and flowers

> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if

> possible, offer dakshina and

> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone

> ­ either round the neck

> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in

> vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord

> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job,

> bhukti, luck etc. So why not

> also consider wearing this round your neck or your

> arm? If it is wealth and

> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­

> 11th lord on the

> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9)

> mantra was meant for you

> as the final energy shift is to the 7th

> house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

>

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

>

>

> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " <souravc108

> wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Thank you

> for an elaborate e-mail

> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones

> is very limited and only

> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I

> also have your JD article).

> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and

> future. I wanted to know why in

> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not

> recommended by 7 Rattis is

> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is

> it just that " larger is

> > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this

> restiction on weights are

> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and

> higher weights are not

> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear

> a yellow topaz for my case

> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri

> Ayanaamsa). I am wondering

> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a

> flawless 7 ratti stone would be

> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of

> verifying a heated vs.

> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a

> gemstone used by another person

> > earlier ?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> >

>

==============================================================================

> > ===================

> > sohamsa , Swee Chan

> <sweechan wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sourav,

> >> > Namaste

> >> >

> >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in

> days of yore also did penances

> >> > to get to where they are in their present life.

> Hence their punya is good

> >> to

> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all

> indications of the 9th

> >> house.

> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow

> Sapphire for the 9th house, it

> >> does

> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas;

> that amongst all other

> >> jewels,

> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and

> unbreakable. If

> >> recollection

> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is

> capable of giving a RY for a

> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of

> carbon and is the most abundant

> >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all

> gemstones do not have colour

> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign

> matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both

> indicate that a diamond with >>

> the

> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu

> Dharmottara)­ note the word,

> >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20

> tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the

> all-season rice is medium grain, take

> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati

> = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>

> and

> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A

> rough unpolished 2.46 carat

> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well

> nearly) :-)); ³a king who

> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It

> takes one year for one carat

> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the

> cooling time is much faster,

> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is

> evident.

> >> >

> >> > Answer to your questions:

> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are

> primary gemstones, less weight

> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu

> Dharmottara gave the entire

> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be

> worn by the King ­ that

> >> goes

> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This

> was also stated in my

> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl

> should

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[Guest guest]

Dear Swee ji

 

Someone told me that yellow saphire will always be heat treated..Is it so!! If

yes, then should we opt for white one. or there is distinction between use of

white/yellow for different lagnas (like for kumbha - native must use white one).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Our circumstances answer to our expectations and the demand of our natures.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> manojsharma662000

> Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:28:56 -0400 (EDT)

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

>

> Dear Swee,

> I am looking for Blue Sapphire and I live in Canada.

> Could you please refer me to somebody or some store.

> Thanks

> Manoj Sharma

> --- Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>

>> Dear Sourav,

>> Namaste

>>

>> I think someone is supposed to re-write the

>> gemological section in the VRA

>> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I

>> simply do not agree with

>> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>>

>> 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated

>> Mercury. Now, the gemstone

>> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana

>> categorically states that this is

>> to be avoided.

>> 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never

>> NOT heat treated. Which

>> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone

>> is heat treated? The

>> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade,

>> 10x magnification is the

>> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at

>> least about 80x, you

>> should be able to make the ripples caused by the

>> heating. From experience,

>> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have

>> that extra lustre that a

>> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated

>> yellow sapphire, it

>> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to

>> purchase the rough or

>> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone

>> and facets the

>> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people,

>> but Sri Lankan and Indian

>> facets on colour gemstones are still not

>> internationally accepted. If you

>> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps

>> help you. Though his

>> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get

>> what you request for.

>> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended

>> ­ ALL, topaz comes in

>> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow

>> topaz is irradiated. So it

>> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the

>> radiation from the

>> gemstone does harm to your body.

>> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7

>> ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats

>> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay

>> ji to answer. But the

>> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest

>> planet, hence a tendency

>> for a weight challenged person to put on a

>> ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will

>> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your

>> question: Is bigger

>> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats

>> sufficent? I have seen very good

>> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer

>> puja and flowers

>> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if

>> possible, offer dakshina and

>> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone

>> ­ either round the neck

>> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

>> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in

>> vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord

>> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job,

>> bhukti, luck etc. So why not

>> also consider wearing this round your neck or your

>> arm? If it is wealth and

>> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­

>> 11th lord on the

>> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9)

>> mantra was meant for you

>> as the final energy shift is to the 7th

>> house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

>>

>>

>> Love,

>>

>> Swee

>> sweechan

>>

>>

>>

>> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " <souravc108

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>>>

>>> Dear Swee-ji,

>>>

>>> Namaskar. Thank you

>> for an elaborate e-mail

>>> sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones

>> is very limited and only

>>> gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I

>> also have your JD article).

>>> So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and

>> future. I wanted to know why in

>>> VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not

>> recommended by 7 Rattis is

>>> recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is

>> it just that " larger is

>>> better " concept. For some other ratnas, this

>> restiction on weights are

>>> mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and

>> higher weights are not

>>> recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear

>> a yellow topaz for my case

>>> (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri

>> Ayanaamsa). I am wondering

>>> what is the best affordable size. Of course a

>> flawless 7 ratti stone would be

>>> costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of

>> verifying a heated vs.

>>> unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a

>> gemstone used by another person

>>> earlier ?

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> Best wishes,

>>>

>>> Sourav

>>>

>>>

>>

> ==============================================================================

>>> ===================

>>> sohamsa , Swee Chan

>> <sweechan wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Sourav,

>>>>> Namaste

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly we need to understand that a King in

>> days of yore also did penances

>>>>> to get to where they are in their present life.

>> Hence their punya is good

>>>> to

>>>>> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all

>> indications of the 9th

>>>> house.

>>>>> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow

>> Sapphire for the 9th house, it

>>>> does

>>>>> not tally with the statements in the puranas;

>> that amongst all other

>>>> jewels,

>>>>> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and

>> unbreakable. If

>>>> recollection

>>>>> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is

>> capable of giving a RY for a

>>>>> Mithuna lagna (please check).

>>>>> Consider that the diamond is created out of

>> carbon and is the most abundant

>>>>> ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all

>> gemstones do not have colour

>>>>> (colourless/white) but a foreign

>> matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

>>>>> As in both puranas I have come across, both

>> indicate that a diamond with >>

>> the

>>>>> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu

>> Dharmottara)­ note the word,

>>>>> small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20

>> tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

>>>>> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the

>> all-season rice is medium grain, take

>>>>> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati

>> = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>

>> and

>>>>> this weight is only given for the diamond. A

>> rough unpolished 2.46 carat

>>>>> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well

>> nearly) :-)); ³a king who

>>>>> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It

>> takes one year for one carat

>>>>> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the

>> cooling time is much faster,

>>>>> then the degradation of the crystalisation is

>> evident.

>>>>>

>>>>> Answer to your questions:

>>>>> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are

>> primary gemstones, less weight

>>>>> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu

>> Dharmottara gave the entire

>>>>> range of gemstones and said all these should be

>> worn by the King ­ that

>>>> goes

>>>>> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This

>> was also stated in my

>>>>> article). It is also stated that the Pearl

>> should

> === message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Swee and Sourav, Namaskar.

The form of Jagannath is in Neem wood, and is kept to ward of black

magic and evil eye, which arises when the Badhakesh is placed in the

first, sixth or eighth houses from lagna, or connected to either of

these lords. There are a few more combinations for black magic, but the

idol of Jagannath should not be given away in this case, as it would be

akin to giving away ones kavacha/protection. Instead its advisable to

keep and worship an idol of Sri Jagannath in this case.

Best wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

Email: visti

For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Swee Chan wrote:

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when

delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant.

The simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate

Brihaspati murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire

but these suggestions are always according to your means. Together with

this, offer ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana

goes on to suggest that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so

consider this as your upaya. When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will

give his blessings and hopefully “absorb” negative karma accrued by

you. Then only may you consider wearing the Yellow Sapphire.

Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars,

both Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with

a negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your

AL.

The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my

article). The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is

much cheaper and purer; easier to get a flawless one– less inclusions

than a diamond (forget the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary

reach.) Should you choose a 5 carater to wear round your neck, it

should not cost you more than $80/carat at commercial prices.

Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru – in my

opinion consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next

dwisaptati dasa in 2008 is also Mars.

Gaurav Jain’s email – yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com and I have seen and bought

jyotish quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from

Thailand off the internet – I am unhappy about this, because in the

trade, when one says it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure

that this is what you’ll get. PGA is not an authority like the

association in USA. If you lie, you are liable to a fine and maybe be

struck off. Gaurav is a member of that assoc. So you can rest easy.

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com

 

On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, "Sourav" <souravc108 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the

knowledge.

 

1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is

interesting.

 

2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a

*pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated).

Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A

seller also have good qualities ?

 

3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be

January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma

Rasi is Tula.

 

In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna

in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus.

Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very

strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th

house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But

Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested

Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

 

 

sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in

the VRA

> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not

agree with

> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>

> 1. Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the

gemstone

> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that

this is

> to be avoided.

> 2. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat

treated. Which

> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat

treated? The

> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x

magnification is the

> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about

80x, you

> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From

experience,

> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra

lustre that a

> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire,

it

> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the

rough or

> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

> gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan

and Indian

> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted.

If you

> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you.

Though his

> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you

request for.

> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz

comes in

> either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

irradiated. So it

> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation

from the

> gemstone does harm to your body.

> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 =

5.6 carats

> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer.

But the

> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a

tendency

> for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better”

gemstone will

> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is

bigger

> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen

very good

> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

> pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer

dakshina and

> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round

the neck

> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your

5th lord

> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc.

So why not

> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is

wealth and

> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on

the

> ascendant... ..I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was

meant for you

> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and

paka lagna.

>

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

>

>

> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@. .. wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very

limited and only

> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have

your JD article).

> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I

wanted to know why in

> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7

Rattis is

> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just

that "larger is

> > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on

weights are

> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher

weights are not

> > recommended) . Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow

topaz for my case

> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa).

I am wondering

> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7

ratti stone would be

> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a

heated vs.

> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used

by another person

> > earlier ?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

========= ========= ========= ===

> > ============ =======

> > sohamsa@ .com, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sourav,

> >> > Namaste

> >> >

> >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of

yore also did penances

> >> > to get to where they are in their present life.

Hence their punya is good

> >> to

> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/ religiosity all

indications of the 9th

> >> house.

> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire

for the 9th house, it

> >> does

> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that

amongst all other

> >> jewels,

> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and

unbreakable. If

> >> recollection

> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of

giving a RY for a

> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon

and is the most abundant

> >> > “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones

do not have colour

> >> > (colourless/ white) but a foreign matter/minerals in

them cause the colour.

> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate

that a diamond with >>

> the

> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu

Dharmottara)– note the word,

> >> > small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula

(rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season

rice is medium grain, take

> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati =

800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>

> and

> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough

unpolished 2.46 carat

> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well

nearly) :-)); “a king who

> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes

one year for one carat

> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling

time is much faster,

> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is

evident.

> >> >

> >> > Answer to your questions:

> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary

gemstones, less weight

> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu

Dharmottara gave the entire

> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn

by the King – that

> >> goes

> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was

also stated in my

> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be

big and for those to

> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky

high prices, is less

> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because

some person told me

> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to

get this pearl. BUT what

> >> > is big may seem small to another – so its all

relative.

> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours

equated to the Tamal tree,

> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine;

same beryi family as

> >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an

important factor, though

> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough

gem of importance.

> >> Those

> >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds

like gravel finds) are

> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt,

alien to the

> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who

wishes victory (6th

> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon

etc)

> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted

diamond is a fraction of a

> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The

addendum to the Sun giving

> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In

spiritual equation, he is not

> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also

goes with the statement

> >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the

ruby or the blue

> >> sapphire

> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal

to the red gem (we can

> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is

more meritorious than the

> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels

because, burnt by the

> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body

of a man. V. Dharm.

> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments,

necklace and bracelets of

> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems –

Vishnu Dhar.

> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24

> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the

oval shape is ruled by

> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the

crystalisation. An emerald is

> >> > usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a

square, so like that,

> >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of

the crystal as

> >> suggested

> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized

gem is that it is an

> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an

emerald.

> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury,

a waxing Moon, Jupiter

> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow

Sapphire, as we now know

> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The

Artharvaveda considers another

> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic.

There are many ifs and

> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are

important. A Green Diamond

> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown

diamond should be worn

> >> by

> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who

wishes for a son should

> >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette

(rectangle).

> >> >

> >> > Love,

> >> >

> >> > Swee

> >> > sweechan@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please

answer?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is

given. Some of the values

> are

> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific

calculation done to determine how

> >>> much

> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality

behind these proposed weights

> ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific

purpose to be served ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of

the gemstone ? For example,

> >>> high

> >>> > > quality, less weight ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on

the cut of the gemstone ? Also,

> are

> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for

specific gemstones ? I understand

> >>> that

> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal

perspective or from beauty perspective,

> >>> some

> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if

these cuts have an

> >>> astrological

> >>> > > reason.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis

weights and cuts 5 gemstones

> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to

people ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Sourav

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ============ ========= ========= =========

========= ========= ========

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >> >

> >

> >

>

 

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Swee-ji,

namaskar. Thank you for your brief but to-the-point analysis and suggestions of Upaaya. I will follow according to my abilities. Guru associates with BK-Mangal and represents Dharma Devata being in 9th from KK. Due to CK-replacement, Shukra is new-BK and during the replacement (around 26.5 years of age) I received Diksha at the feet of Lord Ramakrishna. Hence correct association has been intiated and following your suggested upaya's will be beneficial. I will contact Sri Gaurav in due course. Is the donation of Yellow Sapphire to be done to a brahmin or temple or to someone who needs such a stone ?

Thank you immensely for your kindness and help. Thank you also for sharing the knowledge.Would you kindly suggest a dakshina or a donation to temple in your name?

Best wishes,

Sourav

====================================================================================================

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when> delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant. The> simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate Brihaspati> murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but these> suggestions are always according to your means. Together with this, offer> ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on to suggest> that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya.> When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and hopefully> ³absorb² negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing> the Yellow Sapphire.> Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, both> Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with a> negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your AL.> The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my article).> The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much cheaper and> purer; easier to get a flawless one­ less inclusions than a diamond (forget> the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you choose a 5> carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than $80/carat> at commercial prices.> Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru ­ in my opinion> consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next dwisaptati dasa> in 2008 is also Mars.> Gaurav Jain¹s email ­ yobrevol and I have seen and bought jyotish> quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from Thailand off> the internet ­ I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when one says> it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is what you¹ll> get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you lie, you> are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member of that> assoc. So you can rest easy.> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.> > > > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is> > interesting.> > > > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*> > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide> > be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good> > qualities ?> > > > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3,> > 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula.> > > > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in> > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also> > in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in> > Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control> > of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the> > power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is> > for Guru.> > > > Thank you in anticipation.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ==================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA> >> > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with> >> > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> >> > > >> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone> >> > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is> >> > to be avoided.> >> > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which> >> > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> >> > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the> >> > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> >> > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,> >> > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a> >> > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> >> > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> >> > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> >> > gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and> >> Indian> >> > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you> >> > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his> >> > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.> >> > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz comes in> >> > either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it> >> > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> >> > gemstone does harm to your body.> >> > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats> >> > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the> >> > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency> >> > for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will> >> > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> >> > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very> >> good> >> > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> >> > pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and> >> > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round the neck> >> > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> >> > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord> >> > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not> >> > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and> >> > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on the> >> > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you> >> > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.> >> > > >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> >>> > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and> >>> only> >>> > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD> >>> article).> >>> > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know> >>> why in> >>> > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is> >>> > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger> is> >>> > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> >>> > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not> >>> > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my> >>> case> >>> > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am> >>> wondering> >>> > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone> >>> would be> >>> > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.> >>> > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another> >>> person> >>> > > earlier ?> >>> > > > >>> > > Thank you.> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ==============================================================================> >>> > > ===================> >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Dear Sourav,> >>>>> > >> > Namaste> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did> >>>>> penances> >>>>> > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya> >>>>> is good> >>>> > >> to> >>>>> > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the> 9th> >>>> > >> house.> >>>>> > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th> >>>>> house, it> >>>> > >> does> >>>>> > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all> other> >>>> > >> jewels,> >>>>> > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> >>>> > >> recollection> >>>>> > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for> a> >>>>> > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> >>>>> > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most> >>>>> abundant> >>>>> > >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have> colour> >>>>> > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the> >>>>> colour.> >>>>> > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond> >>>>> with >>> >> > the> >>>>> > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note> >>>>> the word,> >>>>> > >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8> x 20 => >>>>> > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium> >>>>> grain, take> >>>>> > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5> >>>>> carats) >>> >> > and> >>>>> > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46> carat> >>>>> > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a> >>>>> king who> >>>>> > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for> >>>>> one carat> >>>>> > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much> >>>>> faster,> >>>>> > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Answer to your questions:> >>>>> > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,> >>>>> less weight> >>>>> > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the> entire> >>>>> > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­> that> >>>> > >> goes> >>>>> > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in> my> >>>>> > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for> >>>>> those to> >>>>> > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,> >>>>> is less> >>>>> > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person> >>>>> told me> >>>>> > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.> >>>>> BUT what> >>>>> > >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> >>>>> > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the> >>>>> Tamal tree,> >>>>> > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi> >>>>> family as> >>>>> > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important> >>>>> factor, though> >>>>> > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of> >>>>> importance.> >>>> > >> Those> >>>>> > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel> >>>>> finds) are> >>>>> > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> >>>>> > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory> (6th> >>>>> > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> >>>>> > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction> of a> >>>>> > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun> giving> >>>>> > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,> >>>>> he is not> >>>>> > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the> >>>>> statement> >>>>> > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> >>>> > >> sapphire> >>>>> > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem> >>>>> (we can> >>>>> > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious> >>>>> than the> >>>>> > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt> by the> >>>>> > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.> Dharm.> >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and> >>>>> bracelets of> >>>>> > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >>>>> > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is> >>>>> ruled by> >>>>> > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An> >>>>> emerald is> >>>>> > >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so> >>>>> like that,> >>>>> > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> >>>> > >> suggested> >>>>> > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it> is an> >>>>> > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> >>>>> > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon,> >>>>> Jupiter> >>>>> > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now> know> >>>>> > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers> >>>>> another> >>>>> > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many> >>>>> ifs and> >>>>> > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green> >>>>> Diamond> >>>>> > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should> >>>>> be worn> >>>> > >> by> >>>>> > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a> >>>>> son should> >>>>> > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Love,> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Swee> >>>>> > >> > sweechan@> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> >>>>>>> > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the> values> >> > are> >>>>>>> > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to> >>>>>>> determine how> >>>>> > >>> much> >>>>>>> > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these> >>>>>>> proposed weights> >> > ?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be> served ?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For> example,> >>>>> > >>> high> >>>>>>> > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the> >>>>>>> gemstone ? Also,> >> > are> >>>>>>> > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I> >>>>>>> understand> >>>>> > >>> that> >>>>>>> > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty> >>>>>>> perspective,> >>>>> > >>> some> >>>>>>> > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> >>>>> > >>> astrological> >>>>>>> > >>> > > reason.> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5> gemstones> >>>>>>> > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Sourav> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> =================================================================> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>> > >> >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>

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|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Swee ji,

 

I have been reading your postings. I think I am doing too many

mantras too with no focus on one thing. Please do reply if you have

time. My chart has not been rectified.

 

I have the following afflictions (and maybe more!) in my chart:

 

1. Brahmin Shaapa

2. Badhakesh Me in 6th house with Ma and Ke. (Pisacha yoga)

3. Lagna has drishti from malefics only

4. Virgo, my 7th house is my BTS. It is involved in a bad exchange

with my 6th house.

 

The remedies I am doing:

1. Diksha Mantra

2. Ma bagala puja (Ishta)

3. Mallikarjuna mantra (BTS)

4. I have done my atmalinga mantra (Mahakaleshwar) for 1 year.

5. Krishna mahamantra for cleasing the 7th house.

7. Shiva shadakshari mantra

8. I offer milk and water to Shiva on Mondays and thursdays

9. I fast on tuesdays.

10. I wear a yellow saphhire in my right hand ring finger

11. My diksha guru gave me a red coral that I wear on my left ring

finger.

 

Regards

Supriti

 

--------------------------------

 

Supriti

 

Natal Chart

 

September 18, 1970

Time: 17:45:33

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

Kolkata, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Sadharana - Bhadrapada

Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (50.57% left)

Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (97.62% left)

Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (59.72% left)

Karana: Bava (Su) (1.14% left)

Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Cn)

Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta)

Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mercury)

 

Sunrise: 5:27:27

Sunset: 17:33:59

Janma Ghatis: 30.7543

 

Ayanamsa: 23-27-00.97

Sidereal Time: 17:57:02

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 5 Pi 33' 45.52 " UBha 1 Pi Le

Sun - DK 1 Vi 43' 10.75 " UPha 2 Vi Cp

Moon - PK 13 Ar 39' 04.35 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

Mars - PiK 16 Le 16' 58.02 " PPha 1 Le Le

Mercury ® - BK 21 Le 17' 47.53 " PPha 3 Le Li

Jupiter - GK 12 Li 09' 38.55 " Swat 2 Li Cp

Venus - MK 16 Li 26' 30.92 " Swat 3 Li Aq

Saturn ® - AK 28 Ar 59' 56.59 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

Rahu - AmK 8 Aq 02' 33.02 " Sata 1 Aq Sg

Ketu 8 Le 02' 33.02 " Magh 3 Le Ge

Maandi 22 Ge 09' 20.45 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

Gulika 12 Ge 11' 25.92 " Ardr 2 Ge Cp

Uranus 14 Vi 50' 45.42 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

Neptune 5 Sc 05' 15.93 " Anu 1 Sc Le

Pluto 3 Vi 42' 08.90 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

Bhava Lagna 5 Pi 44' 42.16 " UBha 1 Pi Le

Hora Lagna 10 Vi 16' 14.11 " Hast 1 Vi Ar

Ghati Lagna 23 Pi 50' 49.99 " Reva 3 Pi Aq

Vighati Lagna 1 Sg 43' 49.37 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

Varnada Lagna 5 Le 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Le Vi

Sree Lagna 14 Pi 08' 43.09 " UBha 4 Pi Sc

Pranapada Lagna 2 Ar 13' 49.92 " Aswi 1 Ar Ar

Indu Lagna 13 Cn 39' 04.35 " Push 4 Cn Sc

Dhooma 15 Cp 03' 10.75 " Srav 2 Cp Ta

Vyatipata 14 Ge 56' 49.25 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Parivesha 14 Sg 56' 49.25 " PSha 1 Sg Le

Indra Chapa 15 Cn 03' 10.75 " Push 4 Cn Sc

Upaketu 1 Le 43' 10.75 " Magh 1 Le Ar

Kaala 1 Le 35' 17.10 " Magh 1 Le Ar

Mrityu 16 Pi 33' 10.05 " UBha 4 Pi Sc

Artha Prahara 14 Ar 54' 46.62 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

Yama Ghantaka 9 Ta 57' 08.80 " Krit 4 Ta Pi

Prana Sphuta 10 Aq 00' 13.53 " Sata 2 Aq Cp

Deha Sphuta 1 Li 24' 00.75 " Chit 3 Li Li

Mrityu Sphuta 27 Cp 03' 12.17 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

Sookshma TriSphuta 8 Ge 27' 26.45 " Ardr 1 Ge Sg

TriSphuta 1 Ge 24' 15.79 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

ChatusSphuta 3 Sc 07' 26.54 " Visa 4 Sc Cn

PanchaSphuta 11 Vi 09' 59.56 " Hast 1 Vi Ar

V2 5 Sc 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Sc Li

V3 5 Sg 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Sg Cp

V4 5 Pi 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Pi Aq

V5 5 Ar 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Ar Ta

V6 5 Cn 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Cn Ge

V7 5 Le 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Le Vi

V8 5 Sc 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Sc Li

V9 5 Sg 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Sg Cp

V10 5 Pi 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Pi Aq

V11 5 Ar 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Ar Ta

V12 5 Cn 33' 45.52 " Aswi 1 Cn Ge

Kunda 0 Li 34' 27.27 " Chit 3 Li Li

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ SaR / \ / |

| \ Mo / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / GL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Gk \ 12 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Md x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / HL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Su x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ma \ / Ju \ |

| / MeR Ke \ / Ve \ |

+--------------+

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Ven Ven 1970-03-24 Sun 1973-07-26 Moon 1974-07-27

Mars 1976-03-24 Rah 1977-05-25 Jup 1980-05-24

Sat 1983-01-24 Merc 1986-03-24 Ket 1989-01-24

Sun Sun 1990-03-24 Moon 1990-07-14 Mars 1991-01-12

Rah 1991-05-19 Jup 1992-04-11 Sat 1993-01-29

Merc 1994-01-12 Ket 1994-11-20 Ven 1995-03-25

Moon Moon 1996-03-24 Mars 1997-01-24 Rah 1997-08-27

Jup 1999-02-23 Sat 2000-06-25 Merc 2002-01-24

Ket 2003-06-26 Ven 2004-01-24 Sun 2005-09-27

Mars Mars 2006-03-25 Rah 2006-08-24 Jup 2007-09-12

Sat 2008-08-17 Merc 2009-09-27 Ket 2010-09-24

Ven 2011-02-17 Sun 2012-04-17 Moon 2012-08-27

Rah Rah 2013-03-24 Jup 2015-12-08 Sat 2018-04-30

Merc 2021-03-06 Ket 2023-09-27 Ven 2024-10-15

Sun 2027-10-16 Moon 2028-09-08 Mars 2030-03-07

Jup Jup 2031-03-25 Sat 2033-05-13 Merc 2035-11-27

Ket 2038-03-01 Ven 2039-02-05 Sun 2041-10-09

Moon 2042-07-27 Mars 2043-11-27 Rah 2044-11-02

Sat Sat 2047-03-25 Merc 2050-03-28 Ket 2052-12-08

Ven 2054-01-15 Sun 2057-03-16 Moon 2058-02-26

Mars 2058-09-30 Rah 2060-11-08 Jup 2062-09-15

Merc Merc 2066-03-25 Ket 2068-08-24 Ven 2069-08-21

Sun 2072-06-19 Moon 2073-04-24 Mars 2073-09-27

Rah 2074-09-24 Jup 2078-04-09 Sat 2080-07-17

Ket Ket 2083-03-25 Ven 2083-08-25 Sun 2083-10-25

Moon 2085-02-26 Mars 2084-09-30 Rah 2086-02-23

Jup 2087-03-13 Sat 2088-02-18 Merc 2089-03-28

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Swee-ji,

>

> namaskar. Thank you for your brief

but

> to-the-point analysis and suggestions of Upaaya. I will follow

according

> to my abilities. Guru associates with BK-Mangal and represents

Dharma

> Devata being in 9th from KK. Due to CK-replacement, Shukra is new-

BK and

> during the replacement (around 26.5 years of age) I received Diksha

at

> the feet of Lord Ramakrishna. Hence correct association has been

> intiated and following your suggested upaya's will be beneficial. I

will

> contact Sri Gaurav in due course. Is the donation of Yellow

Sapphire to

> be done to a brahmin or temple or to someone who needs such a

stone ?

>

> Thank you immensely for your kindness and help. Thank you also for

> sharing the knowledge.Would you kindly suggest a dakshina or a

donation

> to temple in your name?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

>

======================================================================

==\

> ============================

>

>

> sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> > Namaste

> >

> > I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules

when

> > delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the

> ascendant. The

> > simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate

> Brihaspati

> > murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but

these

> > suggestions are always according to your means. Together with

this,

> offer

> > ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on

to

> suggest

> > that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so consider this as your

> upaya.

> > When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and

> hopefully

> > ³absorb² negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you

> consider wearing

> > the Yellow Sapphire.

> > Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with

Mars,

> both

> > Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th

with a

> > negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from

your

> AL.

> > The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my

> article).

> > The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much

> cheaper and

> > purer; easier to get a flawless one­ less inclusions than a

> diamond (forget

> > the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you

> choose a 5

> > carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than

> $80/carat

> > at commercial prices.

> > Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru ­ in

> my opinion

> > consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next

dwisaptati

> dasa

> > in 2008 is also Mars.

> > Gaurav Jain¹s email ­ yobrevol@ and I have seen and bought

> jyotish

> > quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from

> Thailand off

> > the internet ­ I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when

> one says

> > it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is

what

> you¹ll

> > get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you

lie,

> you

> > are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member

of

> that

> > assoc. So you can rest easy.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> > sweechan@

> >

> > On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

> > >

> > > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification.

This is

> > > interesting.

> > >

> > > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of

a

> *pale*

> > > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated).

> Please provide

> > > be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller

also

> have good

> > > qualities ?

> > >

> > > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should

be

> January 3,

> > > 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma

Rasi is

> Tula.

> > >

> > > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is

in

> Lagna in

> > > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus.

> Guru is also

> > > in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong

in my

> chart in

> > > Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes

> primary control

> > > of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence,

to

> transfer the

> > > power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone

> suitable, is

> > > for Guru.

> > >

> > > Thank you in anticipation.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > >

==================================================================

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> > >> >

> > >> > Dear Sourav,

> > >> > Namaste

> > >> >

> > >> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological

section

> in the VRA

> > >> > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do

not

> agree with

> > >> > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

> > >> >

> > >> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now,

> the gemstone

> > >> > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states

> that this is

> > >> > to be avoided.

> > >> > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat

> treated. Which

> > >> > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat

> treated? The

> > >> > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x

> magnification is the

> > >> > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least

about

> 80x, you

> > >> > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating.

From

> experience,

> > >> > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra

> lustre that a

> > >> > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow

sapphire,

> it

> > >> > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase

the

> rough or

> > >> > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and

facets

> the

> > >> > gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri

> Lankan and

> > >> Indian

> > >> > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally

> accepted. If you

> > >> > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you.

> Though his

> > >> > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you

> request for.

> > >> > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL,

> topaz comes in

> > >> > either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

> irradiated. So it

> > >> > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the

radiation

> from the

> > >> > gemstone does harm to your body.

> > >> > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x

0.8 =

> 5.6 carats

> > >> > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to

answer.

> But the

> > >> > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet,

hence a

> tendency

> > >> > for a weight challenged person to put on a

> ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will

> > >> > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your

question: Is

> bigger

> > >> > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have

> seen very

> > >> good

> > >> > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and

> flowers

> > >> > pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible,

offer

> dakshina and

> > >> > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either

> round the neck

> > >> > (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> > >> > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is

> your 5th lord

> > >> > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck

> etc. So why not

> > >> > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If

it is

> wealth and

> > >> > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord

> on the

> > >> > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was

> meant for you

> > >> > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana

and

> paka lagna.

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > Love,

> > >> >

> > >> > Swee

> > >> > sweechan@

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> > >>> > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very

> limited and

> > >>> only

> > >>> > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also

have

> your JD

> > >>> article).

> > >>> > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I

> wanted to know

> > >>> why in

> > >>> > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended

by 7

> Rattis is

> > >>> > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just

that

> " larger

> > is

> > >>> > > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on

> weights are

> > >>> > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher

> weights are not

> > >>> > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow

> topaz for my

> > >>> case

> > >>> > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri

Ayanaamsa). I

> am

> > >>> wondering

> > >>> > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7

ratti

> stone

> > >>> would be

> > >>> > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying

a

> heated vs.

> > >>> > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone

used

> by another

> > >>> person

> > >>> > > earlier ?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Thank you.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Best wishes,

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Sourav

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >>>

> >

>

======================================================================

==\

> ======

> > >>> > > ===================

> > >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Dear Sourav,

> > >>>>> > >> > Namaste

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of

yore

> also did

> > >>>>> penances

> > >>>>> > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence

> their punya

> > >>>>> is good

> > >>>> > >> to

> > >>>>> > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all

> indications of the

> > 9th

> > >>>> > >> house.

> > >>>>> > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire

for the

> 9th

> > >>>>> house, it

> > >>>> > >> does

> > >>>>> > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that

> amongst all

> > other

> > >>>> > >> jewels,

> > >>>>> > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and

> unbreakable. If

> > >>>> > >> recollection

> > >>>>> > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of

> giving a RY for

> > a

> > >>>>> > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> > >>>>> > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon

and is

> the most

> > >>>>> abundant

> > >>>>> > >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones

> do not have

> > colour

> > >>>>> > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in

them

> cause the

> > >>>>> colour.

> > >>>>> > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate

that

> a diamond

> > >>>>> with >>

> > >> > the

> > >>>>> > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu

> Dharmottara)­ note

> > >>>>> the word,

> > >>>>> > >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula

> (rice grain) = 8

> > x 20 =

> > >>>>> > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season

rice is

> medium

> > >>>>> grain, take

> > >>>>> > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati =

800mg; 1

> gram=5

> > >>>>> carats) >>

> > >> > and

> > >>>>> > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough

> unpolished 2.46

> > carat

> > >>>>> > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well

nearly)

> :-)); ³a

> > >>>>> king who

> > >>>>> > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes

> one year for

> > >>>>> one carat

> > >>>>> > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling

time

> is much

> > >>>>> faster,

> > >>>>> > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is

evident.

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Answer to your questions:

> > >>>>> > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary

> gemstones,

> > >>>>> less weight

> > >>>>> > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu

> Dharmottara gave the

> > entire

> > >>>>> > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn

by

> the King ­

> > that

> > >>>> > >> goes

> > >>>>> > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was

also

> stated in

> > my

> > >>>>> > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be

big

> and for

> > >>>>> those to

> > >>>>> > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky

high

> prices,

> > >>>>> is less

> > >>>>> > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because

some

> person

> > >>>>> told me

> > >>>>> > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get

> this pearl.

> > >>>>> BUT what

> > >>>>> > >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all

> relative.

> > >>>>> > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours

equated

> to the

> > >>>>> Tamal tree,

> > >>>>> > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine;

same

> beryi

> > >>>>> family as

> > >>>>> > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an

> important

> > >>>>> factor, though

> > >>>>> > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough

gem

> of

> > >>>>> importance.

> > >>>> > >> Those

> > >>>>> > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds

like

> gravel

> > >>>>> finds) are

> > >>>>> > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt,

> alien to the

> > >>>>> > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who

wishes

> victory

> > (6th

> > >>>>> > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon

etc)

> > >>>>> > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted

diamond is

> a fraction

> > of a

> > >>>>> > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The

addendum to

> the Sun

> > giving

> > >>>>> > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In

spiritual

> equation,

> > >>>>> he is not

> > >>>>> > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also

goes

> with the

> > >>>>> statement

> > >>>>> > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the

ruby

> or the blue

> > >>>> > >> sapphire

> > >>>>> > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal

to

> the red gem

> > >>>>> (we can

> > >>>>> > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more

> meritorious

> > >>>>> than the

> > >>>>> > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels

> because, burnt

> > by the

> > >>>>> > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body

of a

> man. V.

> > Dharm.

> > >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments,

necklace

> and

> > >>>>> bracelets of

> > >>>>> > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­

> Vishnu Dhar.

> > >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24

> > >>>>> > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the

oval

> shape is

> > >>>>> ruled by

> > >>>>> > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the

crystalisation.

> An

> > >>>>> emerald is

> > >>>>> > >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or

> a square, so

> > >>>>> like that,

> > >>>>> > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of

the

> crystal as

> > >>>> > >> suggested

> > >>>>> > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized

gem

> is that it

> > is an

> > >>>>> > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an

> emerald.

> > >>>>> > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a

> waxing Moon,

> > >>>>> Jupiter

> > >>>>> > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow

Sapphire,

> as we now

> > know

> > >>>>> > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The

Artharvaveda

> considers

> > >>>>> another

> > >>>>> > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic.

There

> are many

> > >>>>> ifs and

> > >>>>> > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are

> important. A Green

> > >>>>> Diamond

> > >>>>> > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown

> diamond should

> > >>>>> be worn

> > >>>> > >> by

> > >>>>> > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who

> wishes for a

> > >>>>> son should

> > >>>>> > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette

> (rectangle).

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Love,

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > Swee

> > >>>>> > >> > sweechan@

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>> > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please

answer?

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is

given.

> Some of the

> > values

> > >> > are

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation

> done to

> > >>>>>>> determine how

> > >>>>> > >>> much

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind

> these

> > >>>>>>> proposed weights

> > >> > ?

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific

purpose

> to be

> > served ?

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the

> gemstone ? For

> > example,

> > >>>>> > >>> high

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > quality, less weight ?

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the

cut of

> the

> > >>>>>>> gemstone ? Also,

> > >> > are

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific

> gemstones ? I

> > >>>>>>> understand

> > >>>>> > >>> that

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or

from

> beauty

> > >>>>>>> perspective,

> > >>>>> > >>> some

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if

these

> cuts have an

> > >>>>> > >>> astrological

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > reason.

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis

weights

> and cuts 5

> > gemstones

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to

people ?

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Best wishes,

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Sourav

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>>

> =================================================================

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> > >>>>> > >> >

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Swee Ji, namaskar, I am amazed to see your knowledge on gems. I am wearing Diamond (0.72 carats, one stone), Emerald(abt 6 ratti) and Blue supphire (abt 6 ratti, dark peacock blue color). My birth details is DOB 31.07.1971 TOB 11.11Hrs POB: Gorakhpur (UP) Wearing Emerald for more than 2 years Wearing Diamond and Blue Supphire since Nov 05 I am not getting any desired results. Please guide me as if I am wearing correct gems. Regards, BKKSwee Chan <sweechan wrote: Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaDear Sourav,NamasteI think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me). Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is to be avoided. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience, you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.

The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings

if possible, offer dakshina and then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck (which is my preference) or the fingers. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.Love,Sweesweechan (AT) mac (DOT) comOn 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Swee-ji, Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m.,

Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?Thank you.Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the

9th house, it does> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels,> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> Mithuna lagna (please check).> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,> small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and>

this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > Answer to your questions:> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that goes> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some

person told me> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> egoistic tendencies

is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.> Khanda II Ch 16.24 > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> we

follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM,

"Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?> > > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> > > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high> > quality, less weight ?> > > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are> > there some specific cuts useful for specific

gemstones ? I understand that> > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological> > reason.> > > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > =================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > >> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

 

Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is to be avoided.

Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience, you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.

The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body.

As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck (which is my preference) or the fingers.

As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

 

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

 

 

On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that " larger is better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?

 

Thank you.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

=================================================================================================

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances

> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to

> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.

> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does

> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels,

> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection

> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a

> Mithuna lagna (please check).

> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant

> “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour

> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the

> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,

> small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take

> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and

> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat

> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who

> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat

> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,

> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

>

> Answer to your questions:

> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight

> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire

> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that goes

> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my

> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to

> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less

> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me

> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what

> is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.

> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,

> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as

> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though

> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those

> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are

> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th

> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a

> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving

> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not

> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement

> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire

> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can

> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the

> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the

> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.

> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of

> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.

> Khanda II Ch 16.24

> 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by

> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is

> usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,

> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested

> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an

> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter

> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know

> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another

> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and

> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond

> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by

> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should

> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

>

> On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

> >

> > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are

> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much

> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?

> >

> > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?

> >

> > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high

> > quality, less weight ?

> >

> > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are

> > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that

> > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some

> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological

> > reason.

> >

> > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones

> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant. The simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate Brihaspati murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but these suggestions are always according to your means. Together with this, offer ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on to suggest that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya. When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and hopefully “absorb” negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing the Yellow Sapphire.

Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, both Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with a negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your AL.

The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my article). The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much cheaper and purer; easier to get a flawless one– less inclusions than a diamond (forget the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you choose a 5 carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than $80/carat at commercial prices.

Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru – in my opinion consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next dwisaptati dasa in 2008 is also Mars.

Gaurav Jain’s email – yobrevol and I have seen and bought jyotish quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from Thailand off the internet – I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when one says it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is what you’ll get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you lie, you are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member of that assoc. So you can rest easy.

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

 

1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is interesting.

 

2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?

 

3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula.

 

In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

==================================================================

 

 

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA

> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with

> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>

> 1. Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone

> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is

> to be avoided.

> 2. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which

> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The

> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the

> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you

> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,

> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a

> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it

> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or

> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

> gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian

> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you

> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his

> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.

> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in

> either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it

> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the

> gemstone does harm to your body.

> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats

> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the

> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency

> for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will

> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger

> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good

> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

> pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and

> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck

> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord

> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not

> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and

> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the

> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you

> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

>

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

>

>

> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only

> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article).

> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in

> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is

> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that " larger is

> > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are

> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not

> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case

> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering

> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be

> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.

> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person

> > earlier ?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > ==============================================================================

> > ===================

> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sourav,

> >> > Namaste

> >> >

> >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances

> >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good

> >> to

> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th

> >> house.

> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it

> >> does

> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other

> >> jewels,

> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If

> >> recollection

> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a

> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant

> >> > “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour

> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with >>

> the

> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,

> >> > small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take

> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>

> and

> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat

> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who

> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat

> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,

> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

> >> >

> >> > Answer to your questions:

> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight

> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire

> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that

> >> goes

> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my

> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to

> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less

> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me

> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what

> >> > is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.

> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,

> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as

> >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though

> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance.

> >> Those

> >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are

> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th

> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a

> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving

> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not

> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement

> >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue

> >> sapphire

> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can

> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the

> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the

> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.

> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of

> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.

> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24

> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by

> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is

> >> > usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,

> >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as

> >> suggested

> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an

> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter

> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know

> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another

> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and

> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond

> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn

> >> by

> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should

> >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

> >> >

> >> > Love,

> >> >

> >> > Swee

> >> > sweechan@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values

> are

> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how

> >>> much

> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights

> ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example,

> >>> high

> >>> > > quality, less weight ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also,

> are

> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand

> >>> that

> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective,

> >>> some

> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an

> >>> astrological

> >>> > > reason.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones

> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Sourav

> >>> > >

> >>> > > =================================================================

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >> >

> >

> >

>

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Vipin,

Namaste

 

I think you chart ahs a lot of afflictions and I can’t see how wearing a gemstone would help your situation you are facing right now. There are just too many mantras you are chanting and none of them you are actually following from the beginning to the end, including offering homa. It is normal to chant one mantra at a time until you’ve reached siddhi – offer puja,water, flowers etc. Just trust in Him and see what he brings by identifying in only the one aspect of Him.

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

 

On 9/20/06 5:24 AM, " Vipin Wadhawan " <vipinshash wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskar Swee Ji

 

I was reading your below stated article and

 

" The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ˆ ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white ˆ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body. "

 

I was asked to wear yellow topaz or yellow sapphire ( of course this is expensive). I am going thru Jupiter MD with Venus AD, since I have rahu in my 9th house and is in aries lagna and is 2nd to ul which is saturn. So please tell or guide me about this. Since this has confused me as I am going thru a very rough time and although I have not seen any effect or changes after wearing yellow topaz.

 

You have mentioned about Gaurav Jain. Will you mind giving his contact details on email

 

Your reply will be very helpful.

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vipin Wadhawan

E-mail : vipinshash

 

 

Swee Chan <sweechan

sohamsa

Sohamsa <sohamsa >

Re: Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:28:06 -0700

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

 

Peridot ˆ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is to be avoided. Imperial Topaz is always ˆ I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience, you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the gemstones themselves ˆ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ˆ ALL, topaz comes in either blue of white ˆ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the gemstone does harm to your body. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency for a weight challenged person to put on a „bigger-is-better‰ gemstone will increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers pertaining to that planet, Guru‚s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ˆ either round the neck (which is my preference) or the fingers. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ˆ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ˆ 11th lord on the ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

 

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

 

 

On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article). So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that " larger is better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs. unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person earlier ?

 

Thank you.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

=================================================================================================

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances

> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good to

> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th house.

> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it does

> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other jewels,

> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If recollection

> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a

> Mithuna lagna (please check).

> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant

> „gem‰ found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour

> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with the

> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)ˆ note the word,

> small ˆ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take

> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) and

> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat

> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); „a king who

> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies‰. It takes one year for one carat

> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,

> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

>

> Answer to your questions:

> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight

> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire

> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ˆ that goes

> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my

> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to

> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less

> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me

> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what

> is big may seem small to another ˆ so its all relative.

> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,

> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as

> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though

> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance. Those

> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are

> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th

> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a

> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving

> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not

> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement

> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue sapphire

> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can

> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the

> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the

> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.

> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of

> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ˆ Vishnu Dhar.

> Khanda II Ch 16.24

> 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by

> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is

> usually an „emerald‰ cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,

> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as suggested

> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an

> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter

> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know

> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another

> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and

> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond

> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn by

> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should

> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

>

> On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

> >

> > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values are

> > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how much

> > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights ?

> >

> > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?

> >

> > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example, high

> > quality, less weight ?

> >

> > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also, are

> > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand that

> > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective, some

> > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an astrological

> > reason.

> >

> > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones

> > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Saurav ji

 

Namaskar,

 

There are many online sellers of certified stone (from Jaipur and Sri Lanka).

 

BTW, I recall discussions with Sanjay ji, where he suggested white pukhraj (not

the yellow one) for tula lagna.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Our circumstances answer to our expectations and the demand of our natures.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> souravc108

> Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:40:47 -0000

> sohamsa

> Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Swee-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the

> knowledge.

>

> 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is

> interesting.

>

> 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*

> yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please

> provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller

> also have good qualities ?

>

> 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be

> January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma

> Rasi is Tula.

>

> In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna

> in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru

> is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong

> in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and

> takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th

> lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and

> said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

>

> Thank you in anticipation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==================================================================

>

>

> sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>

>> Dear Sourav,

>> Namaste

>>

>> I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the

> VRA

>> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree

> with

>> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>>

>> 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the

> gemstone

>> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that

> this is

>> to be avoided.

>> 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat

> treated. Which

>> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated?

> The

>> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification

> is the

>> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x,

> you

>> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From

> experience,

>> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre

> that a

>> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it

>> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough

> or

>> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

>> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan

> and Indian

>> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If

> you

>> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though

> his

>> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request

> for.

>> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz

> comes in

>> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

> irradiated. So it

>> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from

> the

>> gemstone does harm to your body.

>> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6

> carats

>> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But

> the

>> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a

> tendency

>> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better²

> gemstone will

>> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is

> bigger

>> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen

> very good

>> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

>> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer

> dakshina and

>> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round

> the neck

>> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

>> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th

> lord

>> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc.

> So why not

>> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is

> wealth and

>> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on

> the

>> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant

> for you

>> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka

> lagna.

>>

>>

>> Love,

>>

>> Swee

>> sweechan

>>

>>

>>

>> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

>>>

>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>>>

>>> Dear Swee-ji,

>>>

>>> Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

>>> sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited

> and only

>>> gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD

> article).

>>> So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to

> know why in

>>> VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis

> is

>>> recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that

> " larger is

>>> better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights

> are

>>> mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are

> not

>>> recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for

> my case

>>> (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am

> wondering

>>> what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone

> would be

>>> costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated

> vs.

>>> unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by

> another person

>>> earlier ?

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> Best wishes,

>>>

>>> Sourav

>>>

>>>

> ========================================================================\

> ======

>>> ===================

>>> sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Sourav,

>>>>> Namaste

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also

> did penances

>>>>> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya

> is good

>>>> to

>>>>> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the

> 9th

>>>> house.

>>>>> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th

> house, it

>>>> does

>>>>> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all

> other

>>>> jewels,

>>>>> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If

>>>> recollection

>>>>> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY

> for a

>>>>> Mithuna lagna (please check).

>>>>> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the

> most abundant

>>>>> ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not

> have colour

>>>>> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause

> the colour.

>>>>> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a

> diamond with >>

>> the

>>>>> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­

> note the word,

>>>>> small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice

> grain) = 8 x 20 =

>>>>> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium

> grain, take

>>>>> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5

> carats) >>

>> and

>>>>> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished

> 2.46 carat

>>>>> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-));

> ³a king who

>>>>> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year

> for one carat

>>>>> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much

> faster,

>>>>> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

>>>>>

>>>>> Answer to your questions:

>>>>> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,

> less weight

>>>>> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave

> the entire

>>>>> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King

> ­ that

>>>> goes

>>>>> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in

> my

>>>>> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for

> those to

>>>>> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,

> is less

>>>>> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person

> told me

>>>>> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.

> BUT what

>>>>> is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.

>>>>> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the

> Tamal tree,

>>>>> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi

> family as

>>>>> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important

> factor, though

>>>>> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of

> importance.

>>>> Those

>>>>> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel

> finds) are

>>>>> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

>>>>> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory

> (6th

>>>>> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

>>>>> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a

> fraction of a

>>>>> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun

> giving

>>>>> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,

> he is not

>>>>> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the

> statement

>>>>> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the

> blue

>>>> sapphire

>>>>> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red

> gem (we can

>>>>> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious

> than the

>>>>> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because,

> burnt by the

>>>>> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.

> Dharm.

>>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and

> bracelets of

>>>>> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.

>>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.24

>>>>> 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is

> ruled by

>>>>> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An

> emerald is

>>>>> usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a

> square, so like that,

>>>>> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal

> as

>>>> suggested

>>>>> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that

> it is an

>>>>> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

>>>>> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing

> Moon, Jupiter

>>>>> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we

> now know

>>>>> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers

> another

>>>>> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many

> ifs and

>>>>> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A

> Green Diamond

>>>>> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should

> be worn

>>>> by

>>>>> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a

> son should

>>>>> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

>>>>>

>>>>> Love,

>>>>>

>>>>> Swee

>>>>> sweechan@

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Swee-ji,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

>>>>>>> gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the

> values

>> are

>>>>>>> relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to

> determine how

>>>>> much

>>>>>>> ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these

> proposed weights

>> ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be

> served ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For

> example,

>>>>> high

>>>>>>> quality, less weight ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the

> gemstone ? Also,

>> are

>>>>>>> there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I

> understand

>>>>> that

>>>>>>> from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty

> perspective,

>>>>> some

>>>>>>> specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an

>>>>> astrological

>>>>>>> reason.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5

> gemstones

>>>>>>> commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Best wishes,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sourav

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

> =================================================================

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Saurav ji

 

I made mistake - sorry for tula rasi / lagna, I wanted to say.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Our circumstances answer to our expectations and the demand of our natures.

 

************************************************

 

 

>

> souravc108

> Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:40:47 -0000

> sohamsa

> Re: To Swee-ji - Several questions about gemstones

>

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Swee-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the

> knowledge.

>

> 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is

> interesting.

>

> 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*

> yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please

> provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller

> also have good qualities ?

>

> 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be

> January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma

> Rasi is Tula.

>

> In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna

> in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru

> is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong

> in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and

> takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th

> lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and

> said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

>

> Thank you in anticipation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==================================================================

>

>

> sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>

>> Dear Sourav,

>> Namaste

>>

>> I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the

> VRA

>> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree

> with

>> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

>>

>> 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the

> gemstone

>> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that

> this is

>> to be avoided.

>> 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat

> treated. Which

>> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated?

> The

>> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification

> is the

>> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x,

> you

>> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From

> experience,

>> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre

> that a

>> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it

>> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough

> or

>> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

>> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan

> and Indian

>> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If

> you

>> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though

> his

>> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request

> for.

>> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz

> comes in

>> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is

> irradiated. So it

>> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from

> the

>> gemstone does harm to your body.

>> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6

> carats

>> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But

> the

>> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a

> tendency

>> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better²

> gemstone will

>> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is

> bigger

>> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen

> very good

>> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

>> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer

> dakshina and

>> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round

> the neck

>> (which is my preference) or the fingers.

>> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th

> lord

>> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc.

> So why not

>> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is

> wealth and

>> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on

> the

>> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant

> for you

>> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka

> lagna.

>>

>>

>> Love,

>>

>> Swee

>> sweechan

>>

>>

>>

>> On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

>>>

>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>>>

>>> Dear Swee-ji,

>>>

>>> Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

>>> sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited

> and only

>>> gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD

> article).

>>> So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to

> know why in

>>> VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis

> is

>>> recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that

> " larger is

>>> better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights

> are

>>> mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are

> not

>>> recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for

> my case

>>> (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am

> wondering

>>> what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone

> would be

>>> costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated

> vs.

>>> unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by

> another person

>>> earlier ?

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> Best wishes,

>>>

>>> Sourav

>>>

>>>

> ========================================================================\

> ======

>>> ===================

>>> sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Sourav,

>>>>> Namaste

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also

> did penances

>>>>> to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya

> is good

>>>> to

>>>>> take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the

> 9th

>>>> house.

>>>>> Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th

> house, it

>>>> does

>>>>> not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all

> other

>>>> jewels,

>>>>> wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If

>>>> recollection

>>>>> is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY

> for a

>>>>> Mithuna lagna (please check).

>>>>> Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the

> most abundant

>>>>> ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not

> have colour

>>>>> (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause

> the colour.

>>>>> As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a

> diamond with >>

>> the

>>>>> six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­

> note the word,

>>>>> small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice

> grain) = 8 x 20 =

>>>>> 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium

> grain, take

>>>>> this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5

> carats) >>

>> and

>>>>> this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished

> 2.46 carat

>>>>> diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-));

> ³a king who

>>>>> wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year

> for one carat

>>>>> of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much

> faster,

>>>>> then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

>>>>>

>>>>> Answer to your questions:

>>>>> 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,

> less weight

>>>>> is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave

> the entire

>>>>> range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King

> ­ that

>>>> goes

>>>>> for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in

> my

>>>>> article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for

> those to

>>>>> want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,

> is less

>>>>> effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person

> told me

>>>>> that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.

> BUT what

>>>>> is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.

>>>>> 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the

> Tamal tree,

>>>>> the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi

> family as

>>>>> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important

> factor, though

>>>>> in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of

> importance.

>>>> Those

>>>>> carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel

> finds) are

>>>>> to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

>>>>> mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory

> (6th

>>>>> house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

>>>>> 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a

> fraction of a

>>>>> faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun

> giving

>>>>> egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,

> he is not

>>>>> considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the

> statement

>>>>> form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the

> blue

>>>> sapphire

>>>>> at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red

> gem (we can

>>>>> also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious

> than the

>>>>> former. The King should always wear the best jewels because,

> burnt by the

>>>>> rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.

> Dharm.

>>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and

> bracelets of

>>>>> Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.

>>>>> Khanda II Ch 16.24

>>>>> 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is

> ruled by

>>>>> Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An

> emerald is

>>>>> usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a

> square, so like that,

>>>>> we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal

> as

>>>> suggested

>>>>> in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that

> it is an

>>>>> off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

>>>>> 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing

> Moon, Jupiter

>>>>> and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we

> now know

>>>>> otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers

> another

>>>>> gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many

> ifs and

>>>>> buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A

> Green Diamond

>>>>> belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should

> be worn

>>>> by

>>>>> the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a

> son should

>>>>> avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

>>>>>

>>>>> Love,

>>>>>

>>>>> Swee

>>>>> sweechan@

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Swee-ji,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

>>>>>>> gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the

> values

>> are

>>>>>>> relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to

> determine how

>>>>> much

>>>>>>> ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these

> proposed weights

>> ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be

> served ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For

> example,

>>>>> high

>>>>>>> quality, less weight ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the

> gemstone ? Also,

>> are

>>>>>>> there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I

> understand

>>>>> that

>>>>>>> from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty

> perspective,

>>>>> some

>>>>>>> specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an

>>>>> astrological

>>>>>>> reason.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5

> gemstones

>>>>>>> commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Best wishes,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sourav

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

> =================================================================

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

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Hi Sourav, Yes, pale yellow color sapphire is usually untreated, golden color results due to heating effect. Also, you may come across orangish or brownish yellow sapphire. They are also heated and are no good for astrological purpose. I have been to Jaipur couple of times where the rough stones are bought and then the cutting is done over there. I plan to enter this good and authentic gemstone business sometime in future as told to me by Sarbani Ji. As per my market knowledge in India, you can get this gemstone around 6,000 to 7,000 rupees per ratti (good and authentic). But be sure to buy it from some good seller. Also, I recommend that you get the gemstone tested from any Govt. Laboratory. In India, there is one in Delhi, near Zhandewalan Mandir, Karolbagh. As some people also sell yellow topaz saying that it is yellow sapphire. So, it is always advised to get the

gemstones tested. Science has developed so much that it is not possible to make out the fake gems by naked eye or just by looking under a microscope or magnifier. Also, if a gemstone is too clear, it is often lab created or fake as such gemstones are quite rare and are priced very high. So do not go for exceptionally clear, or too shining yellow sapphire (even if it is pale yellow color) as it might be fake. All natural gemstones have inclusions, most of them are visible by naked eye. If gemstone is of VVSI (very very small inclusions) clarity, the inclusions are visible in magnification but there does not exist any yellow sapphire without any inclusions (at least I have not seen it till date). Hope this information helps you! Regards, Neeraj Regards, NeerajSourav <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Swee-ji, Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is interesting. 2. So per your suggestion, I should

look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ? 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula. In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru. Thank you in anticipation. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================== sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is> to be avoided. > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the> acceptable

method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz comes in> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it> is

useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> gemstone does harm to your body.> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round the neck> (which is my preference) or the fingers.> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th

lord> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on the> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.> > > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article).> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes

of now and future. I wanted to know why in> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is> > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person> > earlier ?> > > > Thank you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> >

> > ==============================================================================> > ===================> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good> >> to> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th> >> house.> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it> >> does> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other> >>

jewels,> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> >> recollection> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with >>> the> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note the word,> >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take>

>> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>> and> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a king who> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for one carat> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­ that> >> goes> >> > for my

favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance.> >> Those> >> > carried about by wolves,

broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> >> sapphire> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more

meritorious than the> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> >> suggested> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided

especially for an emerald.> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn> >> by> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> >

> >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> >>> > > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values> are> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how> >>> much> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights> ?> >>> > > > >>> >

> 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example,> >>> high> >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also,> are> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand> >>> that> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective,> >>> some> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> >>> astrological> >>> > > reason.> >>> > > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5

gemstones> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > =================================================================> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>

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~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Swee, Sorry from deviating from the topic but I strongly believe that you must write a book on Gemstones. I have a good collection of gemstone books (more than 10) but still the knowledge that you share through is superb and that is not given in any of these books. I read most of your messages and specially never miss a topic written by you on gemstones. Apart from that you are a very good astrologer and an expert in Gemstones. So, you can impart knowledge that is not given in any such books. It was just my view. So, if you are going to write a book on gemstones, believe me I would be the first one to purchase it. Regards, NeerajSwee Chan <sweechan wrote: Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaDear Sourav,NamasteI work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant. The simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate Brihaspati murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but these suggestions are always according to your means. Together with this, offer ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on to suggest that one should donate a Yellow

Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya. When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and hopefully “absorb” negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing the Yellow Sapphire.Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, both Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with a negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your AL. The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my article). The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much cheaper and purer; easier to get a flawless one– less inclusions than a diamond (forget the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you choose a 5 carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than $80/carat at commercial prices.Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru – in my opinion consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next dwisaptati

dasa in 2008 is also Mars. Gaurav Jain’s email – yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com and I have seen and bought jyotish quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from Thailand off the internet – I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when one says it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is what you’ll get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you lie, you are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member of that assoc. So you can rest easy.Love,Sweesweechan (AT) mac (DOT) comOn 9/20/06 4:40 AM, "Sourav" <souravc108 > wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear

Swee-ji, Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is interesting.2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula. In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in

Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.Thank you in anticipation.Best wishes,Sourav==================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > 1. Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that

this is> to be avoided. > 2. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps

help you. Though his> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in> either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> gemstone does harm to your body.> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency> for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> pertaining to

that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck> (which is my preference) or the fingers.> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.> > > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >

Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article).> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger is> > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a

way of verifying a heated vs.> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person> > earlier ?> > > > Thank you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ==============================================================================> > ===================> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances> >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good> >> to> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all

indications of the 9th> >> house.> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it> >> does> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other> >> jewels,> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> >> recollection> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> >> > “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with >>> the> >> > six corners etc

etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note the word,> >> > small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 => >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>> and> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a king who> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for one carat> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,

less weight> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King – that> >> goes> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> >> > is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> >>

> emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance.> >> Those> >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> >> > form the G. Purana that

one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> >> sapphire> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> >> > usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> >> > we

follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> >> suggested> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn> >> by> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should> >> >

avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> >>> > > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values> are> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a

specific calculation done to determine how> >>> much> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights> ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example,> >>> high> >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also,> are> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand> >>> that> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective,> >>> some> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I

want to know if these cuts have an> >>> astrological> >>> > > reason.> >>> > > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > =================================================================> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>

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Dear Sourav,

Namaste

 

You’ve had diksha, so gifts are to your diksha Guru. Over and above, a brahmin whose wife and sons are still alive, your own Jyotish Guru or your Parampara Guru – in that order.

You may offer any amount in my name to a Radha-Krishna Temple.

 

Love,

 

Swee

sweechan

 

 

On 9/20/06 8:51 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

 

Dear Swee-ji,

 

namaskar. Thank you for your brief but to-the-point analysis and suggestions of Upaaya. I will follow according to my abilities. Guru associates with BK-Mangal and represents Dharma Devata being in 9th from KK. Due to CK-replacement, Shukra is new-BK and during the replacement (around 26.5 years of age) I received Diksha at the feet of Lord Ramakrishna. Hence correct association has been intiated and following your suggested upaya's will be beneficial. I will contact Sri Gaurav in due course. Is the donation of Yellow Sapphire to be done to a brahmin or temple or to someone who needs such a stone ?

 

Thank you immensely for your kindness and help. Thank you also for sharing the knowledge.Would you kindly suggest a dakshina or a donation to temple in your name?

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

====================================================================================================

 

 

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste

>

> I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when

> delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant. The

> simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate Brihaspati

> murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but these

> suggestions are always according to your means. Together with this, offer

> ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on to suggest

> that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya.

> When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and hopefully

> “absorb” negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing

> the Yellow Sapphire.

> Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, both

> Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with a

> negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your AL.

> The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my article).

> The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much cheaper and

> purer; easier to get a flawless one– less inclusions than a diamond (forget

> the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you choose a 5

> carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than $80/carat

> at commercial prices.

> Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru – in my opinion

> consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next dwisaptati dasa

> in 2008 is also Mars.

> Gaurav Jain’s email – yobrevol and I have seen and bought jyotish

> quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from Thailand off

> the internet – I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when one says

> it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is what you’ll

> get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you lie, you

> are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member of that

> assoc. So you can rest easy.

>

> Love,

>

> Swee

> sweechan

>

> On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Swee-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

> >

> > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is

> > interesting.

> >

> > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*

> > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide

> > be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good

> > qualities ?

> >

> > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3,

> > 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula.

> >

> > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in

> > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also

> > in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in

> > Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control

> > of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the

> > power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is

> > for Guru.

> >

> > Thank you in anticipation.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > ==================================================================

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sourav,

> >> > Namaste

> >> >

> >> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA

> >> > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with

> >> > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

> >> >

> >> > 1. Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone

> >> > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is

> >> > to be avoided.

> >> > 2. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which

> >> > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The

> >> > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the

> >> > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you

> >> > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,

> >> > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a

> >> > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it

> >> > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or

> >> > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

> >> > gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and

> >> Indian

> >> > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you

> >> > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his

> >> > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.

> >> > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes in

> >> > either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it

> >> > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the

> >> > gemstone does harm to your body.

> >> > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats

> >> > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the

> >> > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency

> >> > for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better” gemstone will

> >> > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger

> >> > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very

> >> good

> >> > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers

> >> > pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and

> >> > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the neck

> >> > (which is my preference) or the fingers.

> >> > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord

> >> > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not

> >> > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and

> >> > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the

> >> > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you

> >> > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Love,

> >> >

> >> > Swee

> >> > sweechan@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail

> >>> > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and

> >>> only

> >>> > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD

> >>> article).

> >>> > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know

> >>> why in

> >>> > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is

> >>> > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that " larger

> is

> >>> > > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are

> >>> > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not

> >>> > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my

> >>> case

> >>> > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am

> >>> wondering

> >>> > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone

> >>> would be

> >>> > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.

> >>> > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another

> >>> person

> >>> > > earlier ?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thank you.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Sourav

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>>

> ==============================================================================

> >>> > > ===================

> >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Dear Sourav,

> >>>>> > >> > Namaste

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did

> >>>>> penances

> >>>>> > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya

> >>>>> is good

> >>>> > >> to

> >>>>> > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the

> 9th

> >>>> > >> house.

> >>>>> > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th

> >>>>> house, it

> >>>> > >> does

> >>>>> > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all

> other

> >>>> > >> jewels,

> >>>>> > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If

> >>>> > >> recollection

> >>>>> > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for

> a

> >>>>> > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >>>>> > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most

> >>>>> abundant

> >>>>> > >> > “gem” found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have

> colour

> >>>>> > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the

> >>>>> colour.

> >>>>> > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond

> >>>>> with >>

> >> > the

> >>>>> > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note

> >>>>> the word,

> >>>>> > >> > small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8

> x 20 =

> >>>>> > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium

> >>>>> grain, take

> >>>>> > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5

> >>>>> carats) >>

> >> > and

> >>>>> > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46

> carat

> >>>>> > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a

> >>>>> king who

> >>>>> > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies”. It takes one year for

> >>>>> one carat

> >>>>> > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much

> >>>>> faster,

> >>>>> > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Answer to your questions:

> >>>>> > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,

> >>>>> less weight

> >>>>> > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the

> entire

> >>>>> > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King –

> that

> >>>> > >> goes

> >>>>> > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in

> my

> >>>>> > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for

> >>>>> those to

> >>>>> > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,

> >>>>> is less

> >>>>> > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person

> >>>>> told me

> >>>>> > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.

> >>>>> BUT what

> >>>>> > >> > is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.

> >>>>> > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the

> >>>>> Tamal tree,

> >>>>> > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi

> >>>>> family as

> >>>>> > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important

> >>>>> factor, though

> >>>>> > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of

> >>>>> importance.

> >>>> > >> Those

> >>>>> > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel

> >>>>> finds) are

> >>>>> > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the

> >>>>> > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory

> (6th

> >>>>> > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)

> >>>>> > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction

> of a

> >>>>> > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun

> giving

> >>>>> > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,

> >>>>> he is not

> >>>>> > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the

> >>>>> statement

> >>>>> > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue

> >>>> > >> sapphire

> >>>>> > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem

> >>>>> (we can

> >>>>> > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious

> >>>>> than the

> >>>>> > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt

> by the

> >>>>> > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.

> Dharm.

> >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and

> >>>>> bracelets of

> >>>>> > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.

> >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24

> >>>>> > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is

> >>>>> ruled by

> >>>>> > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An

> >>>>> emerald is

> >>>>> > >> > usually an “emerald” cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so

> >>>>> like that,

> >>>>> > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as

> >>>> > >> suggested

> >>>>> > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it

> is an

> >>>>> > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.

> >>>>> > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon,

> >>>>> Jupiter

> >>>>> > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now

> know

> >>>>> > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers

> >>>>> another

> >>>>> > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many

> >>>>> ifs and

> >>>>> > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green

> >>>>> Diamond

> >>>>> > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should

> >>>>> be worn

> >>>> > >> by

> >>>>> > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a

> >>>>> son should

> >>>>> > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Love,

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Swee

> >>>>> > >> > sweechan@

> >>>>> > >> >

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> >>>>> > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:

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> >>>>>>> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

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> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the

> values

> >> > are

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to

> >>>>>>> determine how

> >>>>> > >>> much

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these

> >>>>>>> proposed weights

> >> > ?

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be

> served ?

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For

> example,

> >>>>> > >>> high

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > quality, less weight ?

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the

> >>>>>>> gemstone ? Also,

> >> > are

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I

> >>>>>>> understand

> >>>>> > >>> that

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty

> >>>>>>> perspective,

> >>>>> > >>> some

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an

> >>>>> > >>> astrological

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > reason.

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5

> gemstones

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Sourav

> >>>>>>> > >>> > >

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[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SouravI couldn't help reading this fine discussion and would like to offer comments. Please pardon this intrusion:1. The substitute gemstone for Yellow Sapphire is a natural Citrine (which isn't very costly). Brazilian Citrines are considered very good. Citrine is of Amethyst family and while the natural processes are going on, if the crystal finds a heat source it converts into a citrine. There are plenty of artificially heat treated citrines available too. I would suggest getting a gemstone tested from a recognized Gemstone testing lab before buying it. You can ask the seller to provide you with the same. This is the most practical method to avoid getting duped. 2. You are aware of the position of Jupiter in my chart and how neither Yellow Sapphire or Citrine suits me. The best thing to do is to wear Rudraksha. In my understanding, Brihaspati represents the Guru or Perceptor and Lord Shiva is the Supreme Consciousness and represents the Adi Guru. No Guru can be without the Shiva Tattva. Rudraksha of any kind (any mukha) will enhance the Guru tattva in the person and bring good qualities of Brihaspati. I would still suggest a Ek Mukhi or Eleven Faced Rudraksha for you. You can wear both if you may want to. 3. In my view, you should NOT wear a diamond or a white sapphire. Venus should be strengthened through Mantra Japa and especially the Mritunjya Mantra Japa will help you immensely. Do the Japa keeping in mind spiritual upliftment and protection for the prana-body. 4. Rise in work and honor are likely between Jan 2007 to Jun 2007, Apr 2008 - Sep 2008 (a little less with doubts about the future), Jul 2009 to Dec 2009 and Oct 2010 to Mar 2011. Take care of your health in all these periods. You tend not to take care of your body. 5. Vishnushashtranama chanting every wednesday and thursday. May the lord bring abudance of knowledge and prosperity in your life.Thanks and RegardsBharat

On 9/20/06, Sourav <souravc108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||

Dear Swee-ji,

Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is interesting.

2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale* yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have good qualities ?

 

3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is Tula.

In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable, is for Guru.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==================================================================

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,

> Namaste> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the VRA> as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree with> (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).

> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the gemstone> has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this is

> to be avoided. > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated. Which> comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is the

> acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From experience,> you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre that a

> heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the

> gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and Indian> facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If you> currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his

> prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request for.> 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz comes in> either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So it

> is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> gemstone does harm to your body.> 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6 carats> is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But the

> idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a tendency> for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better² gemstone will> increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger

> better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very good> results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer dakshina and

> then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round the neck> (which is my preference) or the fingers.> 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th lord

> and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why not> also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth and> recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on the

> ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for you> as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka lagna.> > > Love,> > Swee

> sweechan > > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, " Sourav " souravc108 wrote:> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||

> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and only> > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD article).

> > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to know why in> > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis is> > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that " larger is

> > better " concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are not> > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for my case

> > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am wondering> > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone would be> > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.

> > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by another person> > earlier ?> > > > Thank you.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav

> > > > ==============================================================================> > ===================> > sohamsa

, Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did penances

> >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya is good> >> to> >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the 9th> >> house.

> >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th house, it> >> does> >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all other> >> jewels,

> >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> >> recollection> >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for a> >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).

> >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most abundant> >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have colour> >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the colour.

> >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond with >>> the> >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note the word,> >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8 x 20 =

> >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium grain, take> >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5 carats) >>> and> >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46 carat> >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a king who> >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for one carat> >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much faster,

> >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones, less weight

> >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the entire> >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­ that> >> goes> >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in my

> >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for those to> >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices, is less> >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person told me

> >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl. BUT what> >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the Tamal tree,

> >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi family as> >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important factor, though> >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of importance.

> >> Those> >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel finds) are> >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory (6th

> >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction of a> >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun giving

> >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation, he is not> >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the statement> >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue

> >> sapphire> >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem (we can> >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious than the

> >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt by the> >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V. Dharm.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and bracelets of> >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is ruled by

> >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An emerald is> >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so like that,> >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as

> >> suggested> >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it is an> >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon, Jupiter

> >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now know> >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers another> >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many ifs and

> >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green Diamond> >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should be worn> >> by> >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a son should

> >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding

> >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> >>> > > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the values> are

> >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to determine how> >>> much> >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed weights

> ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For example,

> >>> high> >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone ? Also,> are

> >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I understand> >>> that> >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty perspective,

> >>> some> >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> >>> astrological> >>> > > reason.> >>> > > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5 gemstones> >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,

> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > =================================================================> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Namaste Swee ji et al,

 

All Brazilian Citrines are heated for sure, as you say, but nonetheless it is possible to find "natural" citrines from Nigeria/ illakaka etc..as for natural Blue/yellow sapphires, lately I have been giving independent lab certificates for high value sapphires as it gives added confidence to their purchases. I like to be honest about what I sell, that's partly why my prices are not cheap.

 

mainstream "lattice" diffusion has also surfaced in case of blue sapphires and rubies lately in bangkok, which is increasingly a cause of concern, and a thing to avoid, as if the Be treatment of yellows wasn't enough.

 

Namaste

Your sishya;

Gaurav Jain

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/22/2006 8:26:19 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, sweechan writes:

Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaDear Bharat,NamasteI somehow did not get your mail, but am reading it in Sourav’s reply. ALL Brazilian citrines are heat treated. No exceptions so far.Love,SweesweechanOn 9/22/06 5:24 AM, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:

|| Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Sri Bharat, Namaskar. Thank you for your learned suggestions and please note that they are always welcome; so kindly don't use the word 'pardon'. Yes, I am aware of the gemstone heating processes and hence I didn't readily go for uparatnas. I am still waiting and reasearching the sellers who is trustworthy and at the same time will provide certification. Thank you for the suggestion of Rudraksha. Yes I agree with Mrityunjaya mantra japa especially as Shukra is a maraka in badhakasthana in this case. Being Subhapati, the marakatva is lessened. Can you please explain the dates you arrived at ? In my chart, several Udu dasas are applicable - Lagna Vimsottari, Tara, Dwisaptati, Sataabdika amongst the conditional dasas. Of these, I find Dwisaptati applying quite well. Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================sohamsa , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote:>> Namaste Sri Sourav> > I couldn't help reading this fine discussion and would like to offer> comments. Please pardon this intrusion:> > 1. The substitute gemstone for Yellow Sapphire is a natural Citrine (which> isn't very costly). Brazilian Citrines are considered very good. Citrine is> of Amethyst family and while the natural processes are going on, if the> crystal finds a heat source it converts into a citrine. There are plenty of> artificially heat treated citrines available too. I would suggest getting a> gemstone tested from a recognized Gemstone testing lab before buying it. You> can ask the seller to provide you with the same. This is the most practical> method to avoid getting duped.> > 2. You are aware of the position of Jupiter in my chart and how neither> Yellow Sapphire or Citrine suits me. The best thing to do is to wear> Rudraksha. In my understanding, Brihaspati represents the Guru or Perceptor> and Lord Shiva is the Supreme Consciousness and represents the Adi Guru. No> Guru can be without the Shiva Tattva. Rudraksha of any kind (any mukha) will> enhance the Guru tattva in the person and bring good qualities of> Brihaspati. I would still suggest a Ek Mukhi or Eleven Faced Rudraksha for> you. You can wear both if you may want to.> > 3. In my view, you should NOT wear a diamond or a white sapphire. Venus> should be strengthened through Mantra Japa and especially the Mritunjya> Mantra Japa will help you immensely. Do the Japa keeping in mind spiritual> upliftment and protection for the prana-body.> > 4. Rise in work and honor are likely between Jan 2007 to Jun 2007, Apr 2008> - Sep 2008 (a little less with doubts about the future), Jul 2009 to Dec> 2009 and Oct 2010 to Mar 2011. Take care of your health in all these> periods. You tend not to take care of your body.> > 5. Vishnushashtranama chanting every wednesday and thursday.> > May the lord bring abudance of knowledge and prosperity in your life.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > > > On 9/20/06, Sourav souravc108 wrote:> >> > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||*> >> > Dear Swee-ji,> >> > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the> > knowledge.> >> > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is> > interesting.> >> > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*> > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please> > provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also> > have good qualities ?> >> > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January> > 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is> > Tula.> >> > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in> > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is> > also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my> > chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes> > primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord.> > Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only> > gemstone suitable, is for Guru.> >> > Thank you in anticipation.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Sourav> >> > ==================================================================> >> >> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Namaste> > >> > > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the> > VRA> > > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree> > with> > > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > >> > > 1. Peridot – To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the> > gemstone> >> > > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this> > is> > > to be avoided.> > > 2. Imperial Topaz is always – I mean almost never NOT heat treated.> > Which> > > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> > > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is> > the> > > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> > > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From> > experience,> > > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre> > that a> > > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> > > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> > > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> > > gemstones themselves – not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and> > Indian> > > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If> > you> > > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his> > > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request> > for.> > > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended – ALL, topaz comes> > in> > > either blue of white – mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So> > it> > > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> > > gemstone does harm to your body.> > > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6carats> > > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But> > the> > > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a> > tendency> > > for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better†gemstone> > will> > > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> > > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very> > good> > > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> > > pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer dakshina> > and> > > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone – either round the> > neck> > > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> > > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th> > lord> > > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in – job, bhukti, luck etc. So why> > not> > > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth> > and> > > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better – 11th lord on the> > > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for> > you> > > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka> > lagna.> > >> > >> > > Love,> > >> > > Swee> > > sweechan@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and> > only> > > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD> > article).> > > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to> > know why in> > > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis> > is> > > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger> > is> > > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are> > not> > > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for> > my case> > > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am> > wondering> > > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone> > would be> > > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.> > > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by> > another person> > > > earlier ?> > > >> > > > Thank you.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > >> > ==============================================================================> > > > ===================> > > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > Namaste> > > >> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did> > penances> > > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya> > is good> > > >> to> > > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the> > 9th> > > >> house.> > > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th> > house, it> > > >> does> > > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all> > other> > > >> jewels,> > > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> > > >> recollection> > > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for> > a> > > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> > > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most> > abundant> > > >> > “gem†found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have> > colour> > > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the> > colour.> > > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond> > with >>> > > the> > > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)– note> > the word,> > > >> > small – in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8> > x 20 => > > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium> > grain, take> > > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5> > carats) >>> > > and> > > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46carat> > > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a> > king who> > > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemiesâ€. It takes one year for> > one carat> > > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much> > faster,> > > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > > >> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> > > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,> > less weight> > > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the> > entire> > > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King –> > that> > > >> goes> > > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in> > my> > > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for> > those to> > > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,> > is less> > > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person> > told me> > > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.> > BUT what> > > >> > is big may seem small to another – so its all relative.> > > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the> > Tamal tree,> > > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi> > family as> > > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important> > factor, though> > > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of> > importance.> > > >> Those> > > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel> > finds) are> > > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> > > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory> > (6th> > > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> > > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction> > of a> > > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun> > giving> > > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,> > he is not> > > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the> > statement> > > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> > > >> sapphire> > > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem> > (we can> > > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious> > than the> > > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt> > by the> > > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.> > Dharm.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and> > bracelets of> > > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems – Vishnu Dhar.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> > > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is> > ruled by> > > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An> > emerald is> > > >> > usually an “emerald†cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so> > like that,> > > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> > > >> suggested> > > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it> > is an> > > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> > > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon,> > Jupiter> > > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now> > know> > > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers> > another> > > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many> > ifs and> > > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green> > Diamond> > > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should> > be worn> > > >> by> > > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a> > son should> > > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > > >> >> > > >> > Love,> > > >> >> > > >> > Swee> > > >> > sweechan@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the> > values> > > are> > > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to> > determine how> > > >>> much> > > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed> > weights> > > ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served> > ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For> > example,> > > >>> high> > > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone> > ? Also,> > > are> > > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I> > understand> > > >>> that> > > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty> > perspective,> > > >>> some> > > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> > > >>> astrological> > > >>> > > reason.> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5> > gemstones> > > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Best wishes,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Sourav> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > =================================================================> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

 

 

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=========================================================sohamsa , yobrevol wrote:>> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Namaste Swee ji et al,> > All Brazilian Citrines are heated for sure, as you say, but nonetheless it > is possible to find "natural" citrines from Nigeria/ illakaka etc..as for > natural Blue/yellow sapphires, lately I have been giving independent lab > certificates for high value sapphires as it gives added confidence to their > purchases. I like to be honest about what I sell, that's partly why my prices are not > cheap. > > mainstream "lattice" diffusion has also surfaced in case of blue sapphires > and rubies lately in bangkok, which is increasingly a cause of concern, and a > thing to avoid, as if the Be treatment of yellows wasn't enough. > > Namaste> Your sishya;> Gaurav Jain> > > > In a message dated 9/22/2006 8:26:19 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > sweechan writes:> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Bharat,> Namaste> > I somehow did not get your mail, but am reading it in Sourav’s reply. ALL > Brazilian citrines are heat treated. No exceptions so far.> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/22/06 5:24 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > Dear Sri Bharat,> > Namaskar. Thank you for your learned suggestions and please note that they > are always welcome; so kindly don't use the word 'pardon'. Yes, I am aware of > the gemstone heating processes and hence I didn't readily go for uparatnas. I > am still waiting and reasearching the sellers who is trustworthy and at the > same time will provide certification. Thank you for the suggestion of > Rudraksha. Yes I agree with Mrityunjaya mantra japa especially as Shukra is a > maraka in badhakasthana in this case. Being Subhapati, the marakatva is lessened. > Can you please explain the dates you arrived at ? In my chart, several Udu > dasas are applicable - Lagna Vimsottari, Tara, Dwisaptati, Sataabdika amongst > the conditional dasas. Of these, I find Dwisaptati applying quite well. > > Best wishes,> > Sourav> > =================================================================> > > sohamsa , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > hinduastrology@ wrote:> >> > Namaste Sri Sourav> > > > I couldn't help reading this fine discussion and would like to offer> > comments. Please pardon this intrusion:> > > > 1. The substitute gemstone for Yellow Sapphire is a natural Citrine (which> > isn't very costly). Brazilian Citrines are considered very good. Citrine is> > of Amethyst family and while the natural processes are going on, if the> > crystal finds a heat source it converts into a citrine. There are plenty of> > artificially heat treated citrines available too. I would suggest getting a> > gemstone tested from a recognized Gemstone testing lab before buying it. > You> > can ask the seller to provide you with the same. This is the most practical> > method to avoid getting duped.> > > > 2. You are aware of the position of Jupiter in my chart and how neither> > Yellow Sapphire or Citrine suits me. The best thing to do is to wear> > Rudraksha. In my understanding, Brihaspati represents the Guru or Perceptor> > and Lord Shiva is the Supreme Consciousness and represents the Adi Guru. No> > Guru can be without the Shiva Tattva. Rudraksha of any kind (any mukha) > will> > enhance the Guru tattva in the person and bring good qualities of> > Brihaspati. I would still suggest a Ek Mukhi or Eleven Faced Rudraksha for> > you. You can wear both if you may want to.> > > > 3. In my view, you should NOT wear a diamond or a white sapphire. Venus> > should be strengthened through Mantra Japa and especially the Mritunjya> > Mantra Japa will help you immensely. Do the Japa keeping in mind spiritual> > upliftment and protection for the prana-body.> > > > 4. Rise in work and honor are likely between Jan 2007 to Jun 2007, Apr 2008> > - Sep 2008 (a little less with doubts about the future), Jul 2009 to Dec> > 2009 and Oct 2010 to Mar 2011. Take care of your health in all these> > periods. You tend not to take care of your body.> > > > 5. Vishnushashtranama chanting every wednesday and thursday.> > > > May the lord bring abudance of knowledge and prosperity in your life.> > > > Thanks and Regards> > Bharat> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/20/06, Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> > >> > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||*> > >> > > Dear Swee-ji,> > >> > > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the> > > knowledge.> > >> > > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is> > > interesting.> > >> > > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*> > > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please> > > provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller > also> > > have good qualities ?> > >> > > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be > January> > > 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is> > > Tula.> > >> > > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna > in> > > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is> > > also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my> > > chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes> > > primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord.> > > Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the > only> > > gemstone suitable, is for Guru.> > >> > > Thank you in anticipation.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > > ==================================================================> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > > >> > > > Dear Sourav,> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the> > > VRA> > > > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree> > > with> > > > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > > >> > > > 1. Peridot â€" To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the> > > gemstone> > >> > > > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this> > > is> > > > to be avoided.> > > > 2. Imperial Topaz is always â€" I mean almost never NOT heat treated.> > > Which> > > > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> > > > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is> > > the> > > > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, > you> > > > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From> > > experience,> > > > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre> > > that a> > > > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> > > > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> > > > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> > > > gemstones themselves â€" not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and> > > Indian> > > > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If> > > you> > > > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though > his> > > > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request> > > for.> > > > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended â€" ALL, topaz comes> > > in> > > > either blue of white â€" mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. > So> > > it> > > > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> > > > gemstone does harm to your body.> > > > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = > 5.6carats> > > > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But> > > the> > > > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a> > > tendency> > > > for a weight challenged person to put on a “bigger-is-better†gemstone> > > will> > > > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> > > > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very> > > good> > > > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> > > > pertaining to that planet, Guru’s blessings if possible, offer > dakshina> > > and> > > > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone â€" either round the> > > neck> > > > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> > > > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th> > > lord> > > > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in â€" job, bhukti, luck etc. So why> > > not> > > > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth> > > and> > > > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better â€" 11th lord on the> > > > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for> > > you> > > > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka> > > lagna.> > > >> > > >> > > > Love,> > > >> > > > Swee> > > > sweechan@> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > > > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited > and> > > only> > > > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD> > > article).> > > > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to> > > know why in> > > > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis> > > is> > > > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that > "larger> > > is> > > > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights > are> > > > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are> > > not> > > > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for> > > my case> > > > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am> > > wondering> > > > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone> > > would be> > > > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated > vs.> > > > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by> > > another person> > > > > earlier ?> > > > >> > > > > Thank you.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==============================================================================> > > > > ===================> > > > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Sourav,> > > > >> > Namaste> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did> > > penances> > > > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya> > > is good> > > > >> to> > > > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the> > > 9th> > > > >> house.> > > > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th> > > house, it> > > > >> does> > > > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all> > > other> > > > >> jewels,> > > > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> > > > >> recollection> > > > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY > for> > > a> > > > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> > > > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the > most> > > abundant> > > > >> > “gem†found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have> > > colour> > > > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the> > > colour.> > > > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a > diamond> > > with >>> > > > the> > > > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)â€" note> > > the word,> > > > >> > small â€" in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = > 8> > > x 20 => > > > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium> > > grain, take> > > > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5> > > carats) >>> > > > and> > > > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished > 2.46carat> > > > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); “a> > > king who> > > > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemiesâ€Â. It takes one year for> > > one carat> > > > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much> > > faster,> > > > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Answer to your questions:> > > > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,> > > less weight> > > > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave > the> > > entire> > > > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King > â€"> > > that> > > > >> goes> > > > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in> > > my> > > > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for> > > those to> > > > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,> > > is less> > > > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person> > > told me> > > > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.> > > BUT what> > > > >> > is big may seem small to another â€" so its all relative.> > > > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the> > > Tamal tree,> > > > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi> > > family as> > > > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important> > > factor, though> > > > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of> > > importance.> > > > >> Those> > > > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel> > > finds) are> > > > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> > > > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory> > > (6th> > > > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> > > > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a > fraction> > > of a> > > > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun> > > giving> > > > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,> > > he is not> > > > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the> > > statement> > > > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the > blue> > > > >> sapphire> > > > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem> > > (we can> > > > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious> > > than the> > > > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt> > > by the> > > > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.> > > Dharm.> > > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and> > > bracelets of> > > > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems â€" Vishnu Dhar.> > > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> > > > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is> > > ruled by> > > > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An> > > emerald is> > > > >> > usually an “emerald†cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so> > > like that,> > > > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> > > > >> suggested> > > > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that > it> > > is an> > > > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> > > > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon,> > > Jupiter> > > > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we > now> > > know> > > > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers> > > another> > > > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many> > > ifs and> > > > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A > Green> > > Diamond> > > > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should> > > be worn> > > > >> by> > > > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a> > > son should> > > > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Love,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Swee> > > > >> > sweechan@> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > > > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the> > > values> > > > are> > > > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to> > > determine how> > > > >>> much> > > > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed> > > weights> > > > ?> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be > served> > > ?> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For> > > example,> > > > >>> high> > > > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the > gemstone> > > ? Also,> > > > are> > > > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I> > > understand> > > > >>> that> > > > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty> > > perspective,> > > > >>> some> > > > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> > > > >>> astrological> > > > >>> > > reason.> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5> > > gemstones> > > > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > Sourav> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > =================================================================> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

 

 

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Dear Sri Bharat,

Namaskar. Thank you for your learned suggestions and please note that they are always welcome; so kindly don't use the word 'pardon'. Yes, I am aware of the gemstone heating processes and hence I didn't readily go for uparatnas. I am still waiting and reasearching the sellers who is trustworthy and at the same time will provide certification. Thank you for the suggestion of Rudraksha. Yes I agree with Mrityunjaya mantra japa especially as Shukra is a maraka in badhakasthana in this case. Being Subhapati, the marakatva is lessened. Can you please explain the dates you arrived at ? In my chart, several Udu dasas are applicable - Lagna Vimsottari, Tara, Dwisaptati, Sataabdika amongst the conditional dasas. Of these, I find Dwisaptati applying quite well.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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sohamsa , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote:>> Namaste Sri Sourav> > I couldn't help reading this fine discussion and would like to offer> comments. Please pardon this intrusion:> > 1. The substitute gemstone for Yellow Sapphire is a natural Citrine (which> isn't very costly). Brazilian Citrines are considered very good. Citrine is> of Amethyst family and while the natural processes are going on, if the> crystal finds a heat source it converts into a citrine. There are plenty of> artificially heat treated citrines available too. I would suggest getting a> gemstone tested from a recognized Gemstone testing lab before buying it. You> can ask the seller to provide you with the same. This is the most practical> method to avoid getting duped.> > 2. You are aware of the position of Jupiter in my chart and how neither> Yellow Sapphire or Citrine suits me. The best thing to do is to wear> Rudraksha. In my understanding, Brihaspati represents the Guru or Perceptor> and Lord Shiva is the Supreme Consciousness and represents the Adi Guru. No> Guru can be without the Shiva Tattva. Rudraksha of any kind (any mukha) will> enhance the Guru tattva in the person and bring good qualities of> Brihaspati. I would still suggest a Ek Mukhi or Eleven Faced Rudraksha for> you. You can wear both if you may want to.> > 3. In my view, you should NOT wear a diamond or a white sapphire. Venus> should be strengthened through Mantra Japa and especially the Mritunjya> Mantra Japa will help you immensely. Do the Japa keeping in mind spiritual> upliftment and protection for the prana-body.> > 4. Rise in work and honor are likely between Jan 2007 to Jun 2007, Apr 2008> - Sep 2008 (a little less with doubts about the future), Jul 2009 to Dec> 2009 and Oct 2010 to Mar 2011. Take care of your health in all these> periods. You tend not to take care of your body.> > 5. Vishnushashtranama chanting every wednesday and thursday.> > May the lord bring abudance of knowledge and prosperity in your life.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > > > On 9/20/06, Sourav souravc108 wrote:> >> > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||*> >> > Dear Swee-ji,> >> > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the> > knowledge.> >> > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is> > interesting.> >> > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*> > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please> > provide be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also> > have good qualities ?> >> > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be January> > 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is> > Tula.> >> > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna in> > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is> > also in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my> > chart in Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes> > primary control of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord.> > Hence, to transfer the power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only> > gemstone suitable, is for Guru.> >> > Thank you in anticipation.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Sourav> >> > ==================================================================> >> >> > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Namaste> > >> > > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in the> > VRA> > > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not agree> > with> > > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> > >> > > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the> > gemstone> >> > > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that this> > is> > > to be avoided.> > > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated.> > Which> > > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated? The> > > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x magnification is> > the> > > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about 80x, you> > > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From> > experience,> > > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra lustre> > that a> > > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire, it> > > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the rough or> > > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> > > gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan and> > Indian> > > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted. If> > you> > > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you. Though his> > > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you request> > for.> > > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz comes> > in> > > either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is irradiated. So> > it> > > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from the> > > gemstone does harm to your body.> > > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6carats> > > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer. But> > the> > > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a> > tendency> > > for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better² gemstone> > will> > > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is bigger> > > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen very> > good> > > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> > > pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer dakshina> > and> > > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round the> > neck> > > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> > > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your 5th> > lord> > > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So why> > not> > > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is wealth> > and> > > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on the> > > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant for> > you> > > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka> > lagna.> > >> > >> > > Love,> > >> > > Swee> > > sweechan@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> > > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very limited and> > only> > > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have your JD> > article).> > > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I wanted to> > know why in> > > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7 Rattis> > is> > > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that "larger> > is> > > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on weights are> > > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher weights are> > not> > > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow topaz for> > my case> > > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I am> > wondering> > > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti stone> > would be> > > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a heated vs.> > > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used by> > another person> > > > earlier ?> > > >> > > > Thank you.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > >> > ==============================================================================> > > > ===================> > > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > Namaste> > > >> >> > > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of yore also did> > penances> > > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence their punya> > is good> > > >> to> > > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all indications of the> > 9th> > > >> house.> > > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for the 9th> > house, it> > > >> does> > > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that amongst all> > other> > > >> jewels,> > > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and unbreakable. If> > > >> recollection> > > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of giving a RY for> > a> > > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> > > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon and is the most> > abundant> > > >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones do not have> > colour> > > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in them cause the> > colour.> > > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate that a diamond> > with >>> > > the> > > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu Dharmottara)­ note> > the word,> > > >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula (rice grain) = 8> > x 20 => > > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice is medium> > grain, take> > > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati = 800mg; 1 gram=5> > carats) >>> > > and> > > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough unpolished 2.46carat> > > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well nearly) :-)); ³a> > king who> > > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes one year for> > one carat> > > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling time is much> > faster,> > > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is evident.> > > >> >> > > >> > Answer to your questions:> > > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary gemstones,> > less weight> > > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu Dharmottara gave the> > entire> > > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn by the King ­> > that> > > >> goes> > > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was also stated in> > my> > > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be big and for> > those to> > > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky high prices,> > is less> > > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because some person> > told me> > > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get this pearl.> > BUT what> > > >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all relative.> > > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours equated to the> > Tamal tree,> > > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine; same beryi> > family as> > > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an important> > factor, though> > > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough gem of> > importance.> > > >> Those> > > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds like gravel> > finds) are> > > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt, alien to the> > > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who wishes victory> > (6th> > > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon etc)> > > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond is a fraction> > of a> > > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The addendum to the Sun> > giving> > > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In spiritual equation,> > he is not> > > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also goes with the> > statement> > > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the ruby or the blue> > > >> sapphire> > > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal to the red gem> > (we can> > > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more meritorious> > than the> > > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels because, burnt> > by the> > > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of a man. V.> > Dharm.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments, necklace and> > bracelets of> > > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­ Vishnu Dhar.> > > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> > > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the oval shape is> > ruled by> > > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the crystalisation. An> > emerald is> > > >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a square, so> > like that,> > > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of the crystal as> > > >> suggested> > > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized gem is that it> > is an> > > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an emerald.> > > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a waxing Moon,> > Jupiter> > > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow Sapphire, as we now> > know> > > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The Artharvaveda considers> > another> > > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic. There are many> > ifs and> > > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are important. A Green> > Diamond> > > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown diamond should> > be worn> > > >> by> > > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who wishes for a> > son should> > > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette (rectangle).> > > >> >> > > >> > Love,> > > >> >> > > >> > Swee> > > >> > sweechan@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> > > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please answer?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is given. Some of the> > values> > > are> > > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific calculation done to> > determine how> > > >>> much> > > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality behind these proposed> > weights> > > ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific purpose to be served> > ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the gemstone ? For> > example,> > > >>> high> > > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the cut of the gemstone> > ? Also,> > > are> > > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific gemstones ? I> > understand> > > >>> that> > > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or from beauty> > perspective,> > > >>> some> > > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if these cuts have an> > > >>> astrological> > > >>> > > reason.> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis weights and cuts 5> > gemstones> > > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people ?> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Best wishes,> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Sourav> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > =================================================================> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Swee-ji,

Namaskar. Thank you for taking time to clarify my doubts and giving further instructions. I am indebted to you. I will give the donation in your name on a Monday. I hope to receive your learned guidance in future.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > You¹ve had diksha, so gifts are to your diksha Guru. Over and above, a> brahmin whose wife and sons are still alive, your own Jyotish Guru or your> Parampara Guru ­ in that order.> You may offer any amount in my name to a Radha-Krishna Temple.> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/20/06 8:51 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Swee-ji,> > > > namaskar. Thank you for your brief but> > to-the-point analysis and suggestions of Upaaya. I will follow according to my> > abilities. Guru associates with BK-Mangal and represents Dharma Devata being> > in 9th from KK. Due to CK-replacement, Shukra is new-BK and during the> > replacement (around 26.5 years of age) I received Diksha at the feet of Lord> > Ramakrishna. Hence correct association has been intiated and following your> > suggested upaya's will be beneficial. I will contact Sri Gaurav in due course.> > Is the donation of Yellow Sapphire to be done to a brahmin or temple or to> > someone who needs such a stone ?> > > > Thank you immensely for your kindness and help. Thank you also for sharing the> > knowledge.Would you kindly suggest a dakshina or a donation to temple in your> > name?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ==============================================================================> > ======================> > > > > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >> > > >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Namaste> >> > > >> > I work on a 24hr clock. Sorry for that. One must follow the rules when> >> > delineating. Your Guru is badhakesh and is retrograde on the ascendant. The> >> > simple remedy (which have also worked for many) is to donate Brihaspati> >> > murti in wood or in gold or carved out in Yellow Sapphire but these> >> > suggestions are always according to your means. Together with this, offer> >> > ghee, sesame, sweets, honey and sandalpaste. Padma Purana goes on to> >> suggest> >> > that one should donate a Yellow Sapphire, so consider this as your upaya.> >> > When Guru is satisfied, he in turn will give his blessings and hopefully> >> > ³absorb² negative karma accrued by you. Then only may you consider wearing> >> > the Yellow Sapphire.> >> > Because your lagna lord aspects the movable signs together with Mars, both> >> > Mars and Saturn are involved in a negative aspect on your 5th with a> >> > negative Moon. The dispositor of course, is Venus and 9th from your AL.> >> > The alternative to a diamond is the white sapphire (refer to my article).> >> > The white sapphire belongs to the corundum family and it is much cheaper >>> and> >> > purer; easier to get a flawless one­ less inclusions than a diamond (forget> >> > the flawless D col, it is far beyond ordinary reach.) Should you choose a 5> >> > carater to wear round your neck, it should not cost you more than $80/carat> >> > at commercial prices.> >> > Next, you wrote on a Tuesday during Trayodashi ruled by Guru ­ in my> >> opinion> >> > consider the upaya to Guru and wear a red coral as the next dwisaptati dasa> >> > in 2008 is also Mars.> >> > Gaurav Jain¹s email ­ yobrevol@ and I have seen and bought jyotish> >> > quality gems from him. A friend of mine was cheated buying from Thailand >>> off> >> > the internet ­ I am unhappy about this, because in the trade, when one says> >> > it is that col or quality and natural, rest assure that this is what you¹ll> >> > get. PGA is not an authority like the association in USA. If you lie, you> >> > are liable to a fine and maybe be struck off. Gaurav is a member of that> >> > assoc. So you can rest easy.> >> > > >> > Love,> >> > > >> > Swee> >> > sweechan@> >> > > >> > On 9/20/06 4:40 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.> >>> > > > >>> > > 1. I didn't come across this technique of 80x magnification. This is> >>> > > interesting.> >>> > > > >>> > > 2. So per your suggestion, I should look for Yellow Sapphire of a *pale*> >>> > > yellow color rather than strong golden color (likely treated). Please> >>> provide> >>> > > be address of Sri Gaurav Jain in USA. Also, does P-G-A seller also have> >>> good> >>> > > qualities ?> >>> > > > >>> > > 3. I think in my chart, you used a.m. instead of p.m. It should be> >>> January 3,> >>> > > 1978, 5:35:38 p.m. Calcutta, India. Lagna is Mithuna. Janma Rasi is >>>> Tula.> >>> > > > >>> > > In Navamsa chart, Budha/AK is in debility in 10-th and Guru is in Lagna> in> >>> > > Rasi Chart. Sanjay-ji thinks that Guru caused neechabhanga thus. Guru is> >>> also> >>> > > in Simhasana yoga and dispositor of Surya. Ketu is very strong in my> >>> chart in> >>> > > Devalokaamsa, and in moolatrikona in the 10th house and takes primary> >>> control> >>> > > of the chart (being Pakesha too). But Ketu is 6th lord. Hence, to> >>> transfer the> >>> > > power to Guru, he suggested Mantras and said the only gemstone suitable,> is> >>> > > for Guru.> >>> > > > >>> > > Thank you in anticipation.> >>> > > > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > > >>> > > Sourav> >>> > > > >>> > > ==================================================================> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Dear Sourav,> >>>>> > >> > Namaste> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > I think someone is supposed to re-write the gemological section in> >>>>> the VRA> >>>>> > >> > as there 3 gemstones recommended in there that I simply do not> >>>>> agree with> >>>>> > >> > (my RECOLLECTIONS only, so please correct me).> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > 1. Peridot ­ To be used in lieu of debilitated Mercury. Now, the> >>>>> gemstone> >>>>> > >> > has the hardness of glass. Garuda Purana categorically states that> >>>>> this is> >>>>> > >> > to be avoided.> >>>>> > >> > 2. Imperial Topaz is always ­ I mean almost never NOT heat treated.> Which> >>>>> > >> > comes to the point: How do we know if the gemstone is heat treated?> The> >>>>> > >> > answer is, we cannot especially when in the Trade, 10x> >>>>> magnification is the> >>>>> > >> > acceptable method. If we magnify the gemstone to at least about> >>>>> 80x, you> >>>>> > >> > should be able to make the ripples caused by the heating. From> >>>>> experience,> >>>>> > >> > you will see that a natural gemstone does not have that extra> >>>>> lustre that a> >>>>> > >> > heat treated gemstone has. As for a heat treated yellow sapphire,> it> >>>>> > >> > normally turns to a golden colour. The best is to purchase the> >>>>> rough or> >>>>> > >> > purchase from a supplier who buys the rough gemstone and facets the> >>>>> > >> > gemstones themselves ­ not a slight on the people, but Sri Lankan> and> >>>> > >> Indian> >>>>> > >> > facets on colour gemstones are still not internationally accepted.> If you> >>>>> > >> > currently live in USA, then Gaurva Jain can perhaps help you.> >>>>> Though his> >>>>> > >> > prices are at commercial values, you are sure to get what you> >>>>> request for.> >>>>> > >> > 3. The famous Yellow Topaz that is being recommended ­ ALL, topaz> >>>>> comes in> >>>>> > >> > either blue of white ­ mostly white. Your yellow topaz is> >>>>> irradiated. So it> >>>>> > >> > is useless, besides considering it as a placebo, the radiation from> the> >>>>> > >> > gemstone does harm to your body.> >>>>> > >> > 4. As for the 6 ratti x 0.8 = 4.8 carats or the 7 ratti x 0.8 = 5.6> carats> >>>>> > >> > is some configuration which I will leave for Sanjay ji to answer.> >>>>> But the> >>>>> > >> > idea behind this is that, Jupiter is the largest planet, hence a> >>>>> tendency> >>>>> > >> > for a weight challenged person to put on a ³bigger-is-better²> >>>>> gemstone will> >>>>> > >> > increase his weight much faster. But answer to your question: Is> bigger> >>>>> > >> > better? I would say yes. Is +/- 2.46 carats sufficent? I have seen> very> >>>> > >> good> >>>>> > >> > results. Choose a good muhurta to purchase, offer puja and flowers> >>>>> > >> > pertaining to that planet, Guru¹s blessings if possible, offer> >>>>> dakshina and> >>>>> > >> > then choose a good muhurta to install your gemstone ­ either round> >>>>> the neck> >>>>> > >> > (which is my preference) or the fingers.> >>>>> > >> > 5. As for your chart, Mars is Gopura in vaisheshikamsa and is your> >>>>> 5th lord> >>>>> > >> > and is also the sign that Sun exalts in ­ job, bhukti, luck etc. So> >>>>> why not> >>>>> > >> > also consider wearing this round your neck or your arm? If it is> >>>>> wealth and> >>>>> > >> > recognition, then a diamond can do the job better ­ 11th lord on> the> >>>>> > >> > ascendant.....I think the 3 word, 6 letter (3-6-9) mantra was meant> >>>>> for you> >>>>> > >> > as the final energy shift is to the 7th house/badhaksthana and paka> lagna.> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Love,> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > Swee> >>>>> > >> > sweechan@> >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > On 9/19/06 3:34 PM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Namaskar. Thank you for an elaborate e-mail> >>>>>>> > >>> > > sharing learned details. My knowledge of gemstones is very> >>>>>>> limited and> >>>>> > >>> only> >>>>>>> > >>> > > gleaned from VRA and discussions in the groups (I also have> your JD> >>>>> > >>> article).> >>>>>>> > >>> > > So kindly educate me on my mistakes of now and future. I> >>>>>>> wanted to know> >>>>> > >>> why in> >>>>>>> > >>> > > VRA table 6 rattis of Yellow Sapphire is not recommended by 7> Rattis is> >>>>>>> > >>> > > recommended. Is there a major distinction ? or is it just that> "larger> >> > is> >>>>>>> > >>> > > better" concept. For some other ratnas, this restiction on> >>>>>>> weights are> >>>>>>> > >>> > > mentioned (some lower weights are recommended and higher> >>>>>>> weights are not> >>>>>>> > >>> > > recommended). Sanjay-ji has instructed me to wear a yellow> >>>>>>> topaz for my> >>>>> > >>> case> >>>>>>> > >>> > > (January 3, 1978, 5:35:38 p.m., Calcutta, Lahiri Ayanaamsa). I> am> >>>>> > >>> wondering> >>>>>>> > >>> > > what is the best affordable size. Of course a flawless 7 ratti> stone> >>>>> > >>> would be> >>>>>>> > >>> > > costly. Please educate. Also, is there a way of verifying a> >>>>>>> heated vs.> >>>>>>> > >>> > > unheated gemstone? And, should a person wear a gemstone used> >>>>>>> by another> >>>>> > >>> person> >>>>>>> > >>> > > earlier ?> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Thank you.> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Sourav> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>> > >>> > >> > > >> > ==============================================================================> >>>>>>> > >>> > > ===================> >>>>>>> > >>> > > sohamsa , Swee Chan sweechan@ wrote:> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Om Bhagavate Vasudevaya> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Dear Sourav,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Namaste> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Firstly we need to understand that a King in days of> yore also did> >>>>>>> > >>>>> penances> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > to get to where they are in their present life. Hence> their punya> >>>>>>> > >>>>> is good> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> to> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > take birth with fortune/dharma/religiosity all> >>>>>>>>>>> indications of the> >> > 9th> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> house.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Now when one you only recommend a Yellow Sapphire for> the 9th> >>>>>>> > >>>>> house, it> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> does> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > not tally with the statements in the puranas; that> amongst all> >> > other> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> jewels,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > wearing a diamond is best as it is spotless and> >>>>>>>>>>> unbreakable. If> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> recollection> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > is corrct, BPHS also says that Saturn is capable of> >>>>>>>>>>> giving a RY for> >> > a> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Mithuna lagna (please check).> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Consider that the diamond is created out of carbon> >>>>>>>>>>> and is the most> >>>>>>> > >>>>> abundant> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > ³gem² found in the world. Originally, all gemstones> do not have> >> > colour> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > (colourless/white) but a foreign matter/minerals in> them cause the> >>>>>>> > >>>>> colour.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > As in both puranas I have come across, both indicate> that a diamond> >>>>>>> > >>>>> with >>> >>>>> > >> > the> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > six corners etc etc, pure, small (from Vishnu> >>>>>>>>>>> Dharmottara)­ note> >>>>>>> > >>>>> the word,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > small ­ in the Garuda Purana, it states 20 tandula> >>>>>>>>>>> (rice grain) = 8> >> > x 20 => >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 160 masaka (mustard seeds). Since the all-season rice> is medium> >>>>>>> > >>>>> grain, take> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > this to weigh more or less 2.46 carats (1 rati => >>>>>>>>>>> 800mg; 1 gram=5> >>>>>>> > >>>>> carats) >>> >>>>> > >> > and> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > this weight is only given for the diamond. A rough> >>>>>>>>>>> unpolished 2.46> >> > carat> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > diamond with it trigons is almost a mote (well> >>>>>>>>>>> nearly) :-)); ³a> >>>>>>> > >>>>> king who> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > wears such a diamond wins all his enemies². It takes> one year for> >>>>>>> > >>>>> one carat> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > of gem to crystalise. For a cloudy gem, the cooling> time is much> >>>>>>> > >>>>> faster,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > then the degradation of the crystalisation is> evident.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Answer to your questions:> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 1. The reasoning is this, for those that are primary> gemstones,> >>>>>>> > >>>>> less weight> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > is required. But this is a fallacy. The Vishnu> >>>>>>>>>>> Dharmottara gave the> >> > entire> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > range of gemstones and said all these should be worn> by the King ­> >> > that> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> goes> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > for my favourite thithibha, rudhira etc. (This was> also stated in> >> > my> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > article). It is also stated that the Pearl should be> big and for> >>>>>>> > >>>>> those to> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > want to save some money, the sankha pearl though sky> high prices,> >>>>>>> > >>>>> is less> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > effective than the oyster pearl. I say this, because> some person> >>>>>>> > >>>>> told me> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > that he waited so many years and saved up just to get> this pearl.> >>>>>>> > >>>>> BUT what> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > is big may seem small to another ­ so its all> relative.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 2. Big size (carat), lustrous (clarity), colours> equated to the> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Tamal tree,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > the bee, ballaataka, a light blue gem (aquamarine;> same beryi> >>>>>>> > >>>>> family as> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > emerald) and commercialism considers the cut as an> important> >>>>>>> > >>>>> factor, though> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > in the puranas, it considers the crystallised rough> gem of> >>>>>>> > >>>>> importance.> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Those> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > carried about by wolves, broken, jagged etc (sounds> like gravel> >>>>>>> > >>>>> finds) are> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > to be discarded. The rest like internal flaws, dirt,> alien to the> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > mineralisation should be avoided for the King who> wishes victory> >> > (6th> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > house?), wealth (several houses) and long life (Moon> etc)> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 3. I answered this in the intro. An unfaceted diamond> is a fraction> >> > of a> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > faceted diamond. So do consider this :-)) The> >>>>>>>>>>> addendum to the Sun> >> > giving> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > egoistic tendencies is not quite the case. In> >>>>>>>>>>> spiritual equation,> >>>>>>> > >>>>> he is not> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > considered a malefic. If we agree on this, it also> goes with the> >>>>>>> > >>>>> statement> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > form the G. Purana that one who wishes to wear the> >>>>>>>>>>> ruby or the blue> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> sapphire> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > at that, has to be pure. Beginning from the crystal> to the red gem> >>>>>>> > >>>>> (we can> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > also consider a red beryly here), the red gem is more> meritorious> >>>>>>> > >>>>> than the> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > former. The King should always wear the best jewels> because, burnt> >> > by the> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > rays of the gems, the evil goes away from the body of> a man. V.> >> > Dharm.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.26. The crown, hand ornaments,> necklace and> >>>>>>> > >>>>> bracelets of> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Kings should be prepared from meritorious gems ­> Vishnu Dhar.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Khanda II Ch 16.24> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 4. Follow the shapes according to the planets, the> oval shape is> >>>>>>> > >>>>> ruled by> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jupiter which goes with the nature of the> >>>>>>>>>>> crystalisation. An> >>>>>>> > >>>>> emerald is> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > usually an ³emerald² cut/cut corner rectangular or a> square, so> >>>>>>> > >>>>> like that,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > we follow this as close as possible to the shape of> the crystal as> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> suggested> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > in the puranas. What we must avoid for a small sized> gem is that it> >> > is an> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > off cut, which is to be avoided especially for an> emerald.> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > 5. The general idea is this: a stand alone Mercury, a> waxing Moon,> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > and Venus can all do the work as well as Yellow> >>>>>>>>>>> Sapphire, as we now> >> > know> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > otherwise, that Venus/Diamond is best. The> >>>>>>>>>>> Artharvaveda considers> >>>>>>> > >>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > gem to be the salvation of the 52 types of magic.> There are many> >>>>>>> > >>>>> ifs and> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > buts about wearing a diamond and the colours are> >>>>>>>>>>> important. A Green> >>>>>>> > >>>>> Diamond> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > belongs to that of Vishnu (Garuda Purana). A brown> diamond should> >>>>>>> > >>>>> be worn> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >> by> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > the Kshatria, a white one by a Brahmin. A woman who> wishes for a> >>>>>>> > >>>>> son should> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > avoid wearing a diamond unless it is a baguette> (rectangle).> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Love,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Swee> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > sweechan@> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > On 9/19/06 7:17 AM, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dear Swee-ji,> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Namaskar. I have several questions regarding> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > gemstones. If you have time can you please> answer?> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 1. In VRA, ratti values of each gemstone is> given. Some of the> >> > values> >>>>> > >> > are> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > relatively high. Is there a specific> calculation done to> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> determine how> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> much> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > ratti is needed ? What is the rationality> behind these> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> proposed weights> >>>>> > >> > ?> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 2. Does ratti weights depend on a specific> purpose to be> >> > served ?> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 3. Does ratti weight depend on quality of the> gemstone ? For> >> > example,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> high> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > quality, less weight ?> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 4. Does ratti weight selection depend on the> cut of the> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> gemstone ? Also,> >>>>> > >> > are> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > there some specific cuts useful for specific> gemstones ? I> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> understand> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> that> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > from the stability of the cystal perspective or> from beauty> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> perspective,> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> some> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > specific cuts are chosen. I want to know if> these cuts have an> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> astrological> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > reason.> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > 5. Can you give me an idea for the rattis> weights and cuts 5> >> > gemstones> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > commonly used that can be recommended to people> ?> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Best wishes,> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Sourav> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =================================================================> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> >>>>> > >> >> >>> > > > >>> > >> >> >> > > >>