Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 |Om Saraswatyai Namah| Dear Sourav Ji, Namaskar. Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of the Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of this chart are expressed below. The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's body. The Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female apparatus is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts need to fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and have not checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. Yes, Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests that the chart might need them. I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; they may be inane but are factual. For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use his voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this is crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. Budh is in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. The other somewhat worthless observation is about his characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to ease the groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated planet in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was astonished to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these gestures. Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things matters of focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned here are to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life manifestations. This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything from this amazing art. Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha malefics below so I will not repeat. About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be causative of denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the curse happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' seen from the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic causing the benefic to curse. Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He carries the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really bless at the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some mail somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak Guru is still capable of blessing. Fine. In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's words, I found the following questions arising in my mind: 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving the results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It is the 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the Arudha Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only benefics are appreciated in the 8th from the Arudha. 2. Exalted Sun for Kanya Lagna weakens the Vipreeta Raja Yoga as planets in the Dusthana should be weak for the Rajayoga to sustain. 3. I have to say that Neecha Badhak Guru in the 5th with the worst malefic for the Lagna and aspected by the 6th Lord, the primary Maraka for children is very serious affliction indeed. Sanjay Ji's reference to the Varga Chakras is very illustrative of the factors that explain Tendulkar's success. But the Rashi chart, and knowing it is probably the correct chart, suprises me with what it has delivered. It is just the instinctive response of a Jyotishi and a student of this art and should be understood in that manner. Best wishes, Anurag Sharma. Web: http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com http://www.astrologyguild.com at the Articles page Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tendulkar's chart & Progeny-Visti || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Smaranam || Dear Anuraag-ji, namaskar. May I be permitted to provide some comments. The onus of birth is on mother as the entire birth apparatus is in mother's body. Father provides the Sukra only. Further we do not know if Sachin has undergone any treatments or remedial measures. Sukra the kaaraka of semen in own nakshatra (Bharani) and Surya is in Aswini nakshatra owned by Ketu, co-lord of the third house. Further, 5th lord is well placed and in the nakshatra of Mangal who is exalted with the kaaraka of children Guru. Guru gains strength in presence of friend Mangal who is in own nakshatra hence quite strong. However, Mangal is 3rd and 8th lord and can give some problems in issues. Also, Guru is in Vrisabha navaamsa which is in the 9th house of Rasi chart, therefore Guru is in Bhagyaamsa-yuktah. Further, Chandra is digvali and gives neechabhanga to Guru and is also Guru's nakshatra dispositor (Sravana). The Brahmin Shaapa is not about denial of children but about sufferings indicated by the lordships of the afflictors. Further in the 5th house (which is not a dusthana) the curse fructifies around the period of childbirth. Here, affliction is primarily from Mangal who is lord of 3rd and 8th houses while Rahu the other afflictor is lord of 6th houses and can indicate injuries, diseases, relationships with brothers etc which caused suffering. Although there are certain weaknesses in the chart regarding children as pointed out by you, the rasi/navaamsa charts doesn't show denial. Guru and Mangal shows one boy one girl or both boys, which I don't know if it is correct. Saptaamsa lagna shows some afflictions but Guru is with Ketu (ketau kulsya unnatim) and is 9th lord, while Surya is 5th lord and well placed. Mangal is lagnalord exalted and well placed in the 10th house but has parivartana with Sani. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= , "Anurag Sharma" <anuraagsharma27 wrote:>> |Om Saraswatyai Namah|> > Dear Visti,> > Pranaam.> > Thank you for your response. Well this is another resolution to the > sometimes controversial issue of counting to the stronger lord or > reckong both Arudha and then considering the stronger Arudha. > > Correct. So, the stronger Vikram Arudha is in the 5th from Lagna and > is well placed from Surya. This solves a major problem for me, > regarding judging procreation potential in Tendulkar's chart. > > However, Bhagyapada is still badly afflicted by infertile Mercury > and the 9th Bhava from the Lagna has a Graha. Unless I am mistaken, > and I could well be, COVA states in one example that in case of > conflict the stronger of the Bhavas for which Padas have been > reckoned ought to be taken. Likewise, S3 is in the 6th from the Sun, > though the stronger S9 is well placed. > > Apart from these issues, which your learned views will resolve, I > suppose the only thing left is to consider the post-birth gross > affliction to the Putrakaraka and the Putrabhava with the Brahmin > Shrapa.> > Regards,> Anurag. > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> >> > |Hare Rama Krsna|> > Dear Anurag, Namaskar.> > There are two options for the Vikramapada in Sachins chart. Which > do you > > think is stronger?> > > > Tendulkar, Sachin> > Natal Chart> > April 24, 1973> > Time: 16:25:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > Bombay, India> > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > Visti Larsen> > Email: visti@> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma wrote:> > >> > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah|> > >> > > Dear Visti,> > > Namaskar.> > >> > > There was a discussion on Sachin Tendulkar's chart. I felt some> > > confusion regarding progeny potential in his chart. I would be> > > grateful if you could express your thoughts on the same.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>> > >> > > > > > <%40>, "Anurag Sharma"> > > <anuraagsharma27@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Sanjay Ji,> > > >> > > > There is one slightly disconcerting thing I find about this > birth> > > data for Sachin Tendulkar. Ishwar has blessed him with two lovely> > > children and yet there is significant affliction to the areas> > > relating to progeny in the Rashi Chakra. Regarding the physical> > > ability to procreate, the Arudha of the 3rd House, A3, is > conjoined> > > Neecha Budh in the 7th House. The Vikramarudha is also in the > 12th> > > House from the Sun. Also, the Bhagyapada, A9, is also conjoined > the> > > A3 and suffers identical affliction. The Arudha of the 3rd House > as> > > reckoned from the Sun, S3, is also in the 6th House from the Sun,> > > showing considerable affliction.> > > >> > > > The Putra Bhava is under a Brahmin Shrapa with Neecha Guru and> > > exalted 3rd and 8th Lord Mars. I must be missing something > because> > > the chart otherwise illustrates well what you have taught. Neecha> > > malefics in the Kendra Bhava give Rajayoga.> > > >> > > > A Vipreeta Raja Yoga is also formed by the Rashi Drishti of the> > > two Dusthana Lords, Ketu and Rahu as they transfer the power to > the> > > Lagna Lord Mercury. But they are debilitated while the Grahas> > > forming the Vipreeta Raja Yoga ought to be strong in the Kendra > and> > > Trikona Bhava. Perhaps it is that his initial success was > astounding> > > considering the circumstances and then based on his stupendous> > > abilities, the Rajayoga has been conventional.> > > >> > > > Kindly shed some light on the chart features pertaining to > progeny.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Anurag.> > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > | om gurave namah |> > > > Dear Utpal> > > > Excellent analysis. Rähu is like Saturn in its functions and > if> > > Saturn causes> > > > kantaka in the fourth house, there is no reason that Rähu > will be> > > fair out> > > > there. Transit Rähu did hell for him. But I wonder if the > Kumbha> > > transit is> > > > better as it is the third house.> > > > I would prefer the Dwisaptati Sama dasa for Sachin> > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or > 7th> > > lord is in> > > > lagna):> > > >> > > > Ven MD: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28> > > >> > > > Antardasas in this MD:> > > >> > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2001-09-13> > > > Sat: 2001-09-13 - 2002-10-29> > > > Rah: 2002-10-29 - 2003-12-13> > > > Sun: 2003-12-13 - 2005-01-25> > > > Moon: 2005-01-25 - 2006-03-11> > > > Mars: 2006-03-11 - 2007-04-26> > > > Merc: 2007-04-26 - 2008-06-11> > > > Jup: 2008-06-11 - 2009-07-28> > > > Moon is with Rähu which is in debility and hence this dasa > proved> > > hell for his> > > > emotions but did not see him retire. The present antardasa is > of> > > Mars till april> > > > 2007> > > > However the dasa is very favorable as Venus is a yogakaraka > and is> > > well placed> > > > in the 11th house from ärudha lagna promising much income from> > > advertising and> > > > film or media area, especially for vehicles and clothes ruled > by> > > Venus.> > > >> > > > His career peak was during Jupiter dasa> > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or > 7th> > > lord is in> > > > lagna):> > > >> > > > Maha Dasas:> > > >> > > > Moon: 1964-07-28 - 1973-07-28> > > > Mars: 1973-07-28 - 1982-07-28> > > > Merc: 1982-07-28 - 1991-07-29> > > > Jup: 1991-07-29 - 2000-07-28> > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28> > > > Sat: 2009-07-28 - 2018-07-29> > > > Rah: 2018-07-29 - 2027-07-29> > > > Sun: 2027-07-29 - 2036-07-28> > > >> > > > Jupiter has nicabhanga rajayoga as it conjoins exalted fighter> > > Mars and all the> > > > fighting powers of Mars he gets during that dasa. As bädhaka> > > planet in> > > > debility, Jupiter can be in auspicious and this result is being> > > seen during Mars> > > > antardasa - Mars gives Guru results and Jup gives Mars results.> > > > His golden run was from Saturn to Mars antar in Jupiter dasa.> > > >> > > > In dasamsa Jup is in 9th house as 10th lord so räjayoga > happens> > > in that dasa.> > > > Venus is 5th lord, so it gives position and status as Captain > etc.> > > >> > > > PERFORMANCE> > > > The exalted Sun causea a very powerful Rajyoga for Virgo lagna.> > > His performance> > > > has been good in February 2006 during the pratyantardasa of Sun> > > when he hit> > > > another century. (Ven-Moon-Sun specifically)> > > > Then in May 2006 in Ven-Mar-Mer he wanted to retire...Mars is > not> > > going to be> > > > easy in Venus period.> > > > If he plays then in 15 Jan to 6 Mar 2007 he will again hit a > few> > > centuries!!!> > > > The Sun again.> > > >> > > > He should recite 'om namah shivaaya' calmly before going to the> > > field....send> > > > him a fan mail if you really like him. > > > >> > > > Best wishes and warm regards,> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> -> > > > Personal: WebPages â-? Rathâ?Ts Rhapsody> > > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â-? SJCERC â-? JIVA> > > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â-? Sagittarius Publications> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> -> > > ---> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40> > > > [sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40>] On> > > Behalf Of> > > > utpal pathak> > > > Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > > Sachin is Back as Rahu has Gone from the > 4th !!> > > >> > > > Jai Gurudev !> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > > In last June, I tried to analyse sachin Tendulkar's chart in> > > response to a query> > > > posed by one mr. aiyer. Both the messages are given herewith > for> > > your reference.> > > >> > > > Now few things have come out correct and with God's grace, his> > > career didn't end> > > > in 2005. I am happy as a serious student of astrology as the> > > prediction proved> > > > right(glory unto the Vedic> > > > Astrology) but i am much more happy to see tendulkar kicking & > > > firing with his> > > > original flamboynace.> > > >> > > > i have eagerly waited for the day of 12th Oct as the Rahu > (Mean)> > > is entering> > > > Kumbha and relieving him from "Heavy Heart" (4th from natal> > > > moon) and enters the Parakram Bhava. I always believed due to > many> > > experiences> > > > that whenever Rahu Mahadasha is on for a native, Rahu is a Boss> > > and it's Transit> > > > is Most effective during that period.> > > >> > > > SRT just survived (in career) the Multiple on slaught of > Transit> > > Rahu, Saturn & > > > > even Jupiter during last 14-15 months just because of the extra> > > ordinary> > > > strength of His Natal chart. mainly due to Sun, Mars & > Strength of> > > Moon in Dhanu> > > > Rashi (Dhanu Rashi is the best among the zodiac in terms of> > > fighting spirit & > > > > competetiveness) .> > > >> > > > NOW It is a Time to watchout his game during Rahu in Kumbha.> > > believe me !! it'll> > > > be a treat to watch. RAHU HAS GONE FROM THE 4TH, THE DISTURBED> > > EMOTIONS ARE MUCH> > > > MORE BALANCED AND SACHIN IS BACK WITH THE BLAST STARTING FROM > 15TH> > > OF OCT!!> > > >> > > > May Thakur Bless him !> > > >> > > > yours,> > > >> > > > Utpal Pathak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 || Jay Gurudev || Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as some prefers " Simha " as Lagna. I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is Pure, Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of my colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and has some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early marriage, Wife elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have asked to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars can't bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of Parakrama is exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field of Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & Recognition " . *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd aspecting exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon Lagna Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is a Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of Moon) * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should be giving great results in career. * I have no convincing answer for your point about his position as 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i indicated in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other weak yogas. ) 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i think that Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other other small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic that Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put together) 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha may not prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best Trine unaffiliated by other natural malefics - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while 5th is occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well placed in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand notwithstanding his many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as Lagna and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & nothing else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable Brand) I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for your knowledge. Yours, Utpal Pathak sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > Namaskar. > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of the Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of this chart are expressed below. > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's body. The Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female apparatus is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts need to fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and have not checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. Yes, Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests that the chart might need them. > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; they may be inane but are factual. > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use his voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this is crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. Budh is in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to ease the groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated planet in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was astonished to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these gestures. Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things matters of focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned here are to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life manifestations. This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything from this amazing art. > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha malefics below so I will not repeat. > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be causative of denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the curse happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' seen from the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic causing the benefic to curse. > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He carries the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really bless at the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some mail somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak Guru is still capable of blessing. Fine. > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's words, I found the following questions arising in my mind: > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving the results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It is the 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the Arudha Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only benefics are appreciated in the 8th from the Arudha. > > 2. Exalted Sun for Kanya Lagna weakens the Vipreeta Raja Yoga as planets in the Dusthana should be weak for the Rajayoga to sustain. > > 3. I have to say that Neecha Badhak Guru in the 5th with the worst malefic for the Lagna and aspected by the 6th Lord, the primary Maraka for children is very serious affliction indeed. > > Sanjay Ji's reference to the Varga Chakras is very illustrative of the factors that explain Tendulkar's success. But the Rashi chart, and knowing it is probably the correct chart, suprises me with what it has delivered. It is just the instinctive response of a Jyotishi and a student of this art and should be understood in that manner. > > Best wishes, > Anurag Sharma. > > Web: http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > http://www.astrologyguild.com at the Articles page > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tendulkar's chart & Progeny-Visti > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > || Durgaa Smaranam || > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > namaskar. May I be permitted to provide some comments. The onus of birth is on mother as the entire birth apparatus is in mother's body. Father provides the Sukra only. Further we do not know if Sachin has undergone any treatments or remedial measures. > > Sukra the kaaraka of semen in own nakshatra (Bharani) and Surya is in Aswini nakshatra owned by Ketu, co-lord of the third house. Further, 5th lord is well placed and in the nakshatra of Mangal who is exalted with the kaaraka of children Guru. Guru gains strength in presence of friend Mangal who is in own nakshatra hence quite strong. However, Mangal is 3rd and 8th lord and can give some problems in issues. Also, Guru is in Vrisabha navaamsa which is in the 9th house of Rasi chart, therefore Guru is in Bhagyaamsa-yuktah. Further, Chandra is digvali and gives neechabhanga to Guru and is also Guru's nakshatra dispositor (Sravana). > > The Brahmin Shaapa is not about denial of children but about sufferings indicated by the lordships of the afflictors. Further in the 5th house (which is not a dusthana) the curse fructifies around the period of childbirth. Here, affliction is primarily from Mangal who is lord of 3rd and 8th houses while Rahu the other afflictor is lord of 6th houses and can indicate injuries, diseases, relationships with brothers etc which caused suffering. > > Although there are certain weaknesses in the chart regarding children as pointed out by you, the rasi/navaamsa charts doesn't show denial. Guru and Mangal shows one boy one girl or both boys, which I don't know if it is correct. > > Saptaamsa lagna shows some afflictions but Guru is with Ketu (ketau kulsya unnatim) and is 9th lord, while Surya is 5th lord and well placed. Mangal is lagnalord exalted and well placed in the 10th house but has parivartana with Sani. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================= > > > , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > Pranaam. > > > > Thank you for your response. Well this is another resolution to the > > sometimes controversial issue of counting to the stronger lord or > > reckong both Arudha and then considering the stronger Arudha. > > > > Correct. So, the stronger Vikram Arudha is in the 5th from Lagna and > > is well placed from Surya. This solves a major problem for me, > > regarding judging procreation potential in Tendulkar's chart. > > > > However, Bhagyapada is still badly afflicted by infertile Mercury > > and the 9th Bhava from the Lagna has a Graha. Unless I am mistaken, > > and I could well be, COVA states in one example that in case of > > conflict the stronger of the Bhavas for which Padas have been > > reckoned ought to be taken. Likewise, S3 is in the 6th from the Sun, > > though the stronger S9 is well placed. > > > > Apart from these issues, which your learned views will resolve, I > > suppose the only thing left is to consider the post-birth gross > > affliction to the Putrakaraka and the Putrabhava with the Brahmin > > Shrapa. > > > > Regards, > > Anurag. > > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar. > > > There are two options for the Vikramapada in Sachins chart. Which > > do you > > > think is stronger? > > > > > > Tendulkar, Sachin > > > Natal Chart > > > April 24, 1973 > > > Time: 16:25:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > Bombay, India > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > There was a discussion on Sachin Tendulkar's chart. I felt some > > > > confusion regarding progeny potential in his chart. I would be > > > > grateful if you could express your thoughts on the same. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Anurag Sharma " > > > > <anuraagsharma27@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjay Ji, > > > > > > > > > > There is one slightly disconcerting thing I find about this > > birth > > > > data for Sachin Tendulkar. Ishwar has blessed him with two lovely > > > > children and yet there is significant affliction to the areas > > > > relating to progeny in the Rashi Chakra. Regarding the physical > > > > ability to procreate, the Arudha of the 3rd House, A3, is > > conjoined > > > > Neecha Budh in the 7th House. The Vikramarudha is also in the > > 12th > > > > House from the Sun. Also, the Bhagyapada, A9, is also conjoined > > the > > > > A3 and suffers identical affliction. The Arudha of the 3rd House > > as > > > > reckoned from the Sun, S3, is also in the 6th House from the Sun, > > > > showing considerable affliction. > > > > > > > > > > The Putra Bhava is under a Brahmin Shrapa with Neecha Guru and > > > > exalted 3rd and 8th Lord Mars. I must be missing something > > because > > > > the chart otherwise illustrates well what you have taught. Neecha > > > > malefics in the Kendra Bhava give Rajayoga. > > > > > > > > > > A Vipreeta Raja Yoga is also formed by the Rashi Drishti of the > > > > two Dusthana Lords, Ketu and Rahu as they transfer the power to > > the > > > > Lagna Lord Mercury. But they are debilitated while the Grahas > > > > forming the Vipreeta Raja Yoga ought to be strong in the Kendra > > and > > > > Trikona Bhava. Perhaps it is that his initial success was > > astounding > > > > considering the circumstances and then based on his stupendous > > > > abilities, the Rajayoga has been conventional. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly shed some light on the chart features pertaining to > > progeny. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anurag. > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > Excellent analysis. Rähu is like Saturn in its functions and > > if > > > > Saturn causes > > > > > kantaka in the fourth house, there is no reason that Rähu > > will be > > > > fair out > > > > > there. Transit Rähu did hell for him. But I wonder if the > > Kumbha > > > > transit is > > > > > better as it is the third house. > > > > > I would prefer the Dwisaptati Sama dasa for Sachin > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or > > 7th > > > > lord is in > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > Ven MD: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2001-09-13 > > > > > Sat: 2001-09-13 - 2002-10-29 > > > > > Rah: 2002-10-29 - 2003-12-13 > > > > > Sun: 2003-12-13 - 2005-01-25 > > > > > Moon: 2005-01-25 - 2006-03-11 > > > > > Mars: 2006-03-11 - 2007-04-26 > > > > > Merc: 2007-04-26 - 2008-06-11 > > > > > Jup: 2008-06-11 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > Moon is with Rähu which is in debility and hence this dasa > > proved > > > > hell for his > > > > > emotions but did not see him retire. The present antardasa is > > of > > > > Mars till april > > > > > 2007 > > > > > However the dasa is very favorable as Venus is a yogakaraka > > and is > > > > well placed > > > > > in the 11th house from ärudha lagna promising much income from > > > > advertising and > > > > > film or media area, especially for vehicles and clothes ruled > > by > > > > Venus. > > > > > > > > > > His career peak was during Jupiter dasa > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th or > > 7th > > > > lord is in > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 1964-07-28 - 1973-07-28 > > > > > Mars: 1973-07-28 - 1982-07-28 > > > > > Merc: 1982-07-28 - 1991-07-29 > > > > > Jup: 1991-07-29 - 2000-07-28 > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > Sat: 2009-07-28 - 2018-07-29 > > > > > Rah: 2018-07-29 - 2027-07-29 > > > > > Sun: 2027-07-29 - 2036-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has nicabhanga rajayoga as it conjoins exalted fighter > > > > Mars and all the > > > > > fighting powers of Mars he gets during that dasa. As bädhaka > > > > planet in > > > > > debility, Jupiter can be in auspicious and this result is being > > > > seen during Mars > > > > > antardasa - Mars gives Guru results and Jup gives Mars results. > > > > > His golden run was from Saturn to Mars antar in Jupiter dasa. > > > > > > > > > > In dasamsa Jup is in 9th house as 10th lord so räjayoga > > happens > > > > in that dasa. > > > > > Venus is 5th lord, so it gives position and status as Captain > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > PERFORMANCE > > > > > The exalted Sun causea a very powerful Rajyoga for Virgo lagna. > > > > His performance > > > > > has been good in February 2006 during the pratyantardasa of Sun > > > > when he hit > > > > > another century. (Ven-Moon-Sun specifically) > > > > > Then in May 2006 in Ven-Mar-Mer he wanted to retire...Mars is > > not > > > > going to be > > > > > easy in Venus period. > > > > > If he plays then in 15 Jan to 6 Mar 2007 he will again hit a > > few > > > > centuries!!! > > > > > The Sun again. > > > > > > > > > > He should recite 'om namah shivaaya' calmly before going to the > > > > field....send > > > > > him a fan mail if you really like him. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- > > - > > > > > Personal: WebPages â-? Rathâ?Ts Rhapsody > > > > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â-? SJCERC â-? JIVA > > > > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â-? Sagittarius Publications > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- > > - > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40> > > > > [sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40>] On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > utpal pathak > > > > > Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40> > > > > > Sachin is Back as Rahu has Gone from the > > 4th !! > > > > > > > > > > Jai Gurudev ! > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > In last June, I tried to analyse sachin Tendulkar's chart in > > > > response to a query > > > > > posed by one mr. aiyer. Both the messages are given herewith > > for > > > > your reference. > > > > > > > > > > Now few things have come out correct and with God's grace, his > > > > career didn't end > > > > > in 2005. I am happy as a serious student of astrology as the > > > > prediction proved > > > > > right(glory unto the Vedic > > > > > Astrology) but i am much more happy to see tendulkar kicking & > > > > firing with his > > > > > original flamboynace. > > > > > > > > > > i have eagerly waited for the day of 12th Oct as the Rahu > > (Mean) > > > > is entering > > > > > Kumbha and relieving him from " Heavy Heart " (4th from natal > > > > > moon) and enters the Parakram Bhava. I always believed due to > > many > > > > experiences > > > > > that whenever Rahu Mahadasha is on for a native, Rahu is a Boss > > > > and it's Transit > > > > > is Most effective during that period. > > > > > > > > > > SRT just survived (in career) the Multiple on slaught of > > Transit > > > > Rahu, Saturn & > > > > > even Jupiter during last 14-15 months just because of the extra > > > > ordinary > > > > > strength of His Natal chart. mainly due to Sun, Mars & > > Strength of > > > > Moon in Dhanu > > > > > Rashi (Dhanu Rashi is the best among the zodiac in terms of > > > > fighting spirit & > > > > > competetiveness) . > > > > > > > > > > NOW It is a Time to watchout his game during Rahu in Kumbha. > > > > believe me !! it'll > > > > > be a treat to watch. RAHU HAS GONE FROM THE 4TH, THE DISTURBED > > > > EMOTIONS ARE MUCH > > > > > MORE BALANCED AND SACHIN IS BACK WITH THE BLAST STARTING FROM > > 15TH > > > > OF OCT!! > > > > > > > > > > May Thakur Bless him ! > > > > > > > > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > Utpal Pathak > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 |Om Saraswatyai Namah| Dear Utpal Ji, Pranaam. It is very nice to hear from you. I have followed your excellent writings on the chart with great interest and continue to learn. Yes, Dr. B.V. Raman laid stress on the placements from the Moon. He also appeared to strongly favour the weakness of the Dusthana lords in Rashi and Navamsha. As I have stated before, I also feel this is the correct chart. Some time back, perhaps some years back, there was a discussion about the Chandra Lagna and its role as a parallel Lagna in predictive Jyotish. I may be forgetting or may be mistaken, but the dominant view taken as SJC was that Chandra Lagna does not work as a parallel Lagna. It is to be seen for social support and the happiness of the Jatak in the matters ruled by the lords seen from the Chandra Lagna. sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > || Jay Gurudev || > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as some > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is Pure, > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of my > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and has > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early marriage, Wife > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have asked > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars can't > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of Parakrama is > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field of > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & Recognition " . > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd aspecting > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon Lagna > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is a > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of Moon) > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should be > giving great results in career. > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his position as > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i indicated > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other weak > yogas. > ) > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i think that > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other other > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic that > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > together) > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha may not > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best Trine > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while 5th is > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well placed > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand notwithstanding his > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as Lagna > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & nothing > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable Brand) > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for your > knowledge. > > Yours, > > Utpal Pathak > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of the > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of this > chart are expressed below. > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's body. The > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female apparatus > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts need to > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and have not > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. Yes, > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests that the > chart might need them. > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; they > may be inane but are factual. > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use his > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this is > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. Budh is > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to ease the > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated planet > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was astonished > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these gestures. > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things matters of > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned here are > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life manifestations. > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything from > this amazing art. > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha malefics > below so I will not repeat. > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be causative of > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the curse > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' seen from > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic causing > the benefic to curse. > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He carries > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really bless at > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some mail > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak Guru is > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's words, I > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving the > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It is the > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the Arudha > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only benefics > are appreciated in the 8th from the Arudha. > > > > 2. Exalted Sun for Kanya Lagna weakens the Vipreeta Raja Yoga as > planets in the Dusthana should be weak for the Rajayoga to sustain. > > > > 3. I have to say that Neecha Badhak Guru in the 5th with the worst > malefic for the Lagna and aspected by the 6th Lord, the primary > Maraka for children is very serious affliction indeed. > > > > Sanjay Ji's reference to the Varga Chakras is very illustrative of > the factors that explain Tendulkar's success. But the Rashi chart, > and knowing it is probably the correct chart, suprises me with what > it has delivered. It is just the instinctive response of a Jyotishi > and a student of this art and should be understood in that manner. > > > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma. > > > > Web: http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > http://www.astrologyguild.com at the Articles page > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tendulkar's chart & Progeny-Visti > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > || Durgaa Smaranam || > > > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > > > namaskar. May I be permitted to > provide some comments. The onus of birth is on mother as the entire > birth apparatus is in mother's body. Father provides the Sukra only. > Further we do not know if Sachin has undergone any treatments or > remedial measures. > > > > Sukra the kaaraka of semen in own nakshatra (Bharani) and Surya is > in Aswini nakshatra owned by Ketu, co-lord of the third house. > Further, 5th lord is well placed and in the nakshatra of Mangal who > is exalted with the kaaraka of children Guru. Guru gains strength in > presence of friend Mangal who is in own nakshatra hence quite > strong. However, Mangal is 3rd and 8th lord and can give some > problems in issues. Also, Guru is in Vrisabha navaamsa which is in > the 9th house of Rasi chart, therefore Guru is in Bhagyaamsa- yuktah. > Further, Chandra is digvali and gives neechabhanga to Guru and is > also Guru's nakshatra dispositor (Sravana). > > > > The Brahmin Shaapa is not about denial of children but about > sufferings indicated by the lordships of the afflictors. Further in > the 5th house (which is not a dusthana) the curse fructifies around > the period of childbirth. Here, affliction is primarily from Mangal > who is lord of 3rd and 8th houses while Rahu the other afflictor is > lord of 6th houses and can indicate injuries, diseases, > relationships with brothers etc which caused suffering. > > > > Although there are certain weaknesses in the chart regarding > children as pointed out by you, the rasi/navaamsa charts doesn't > show denial. Guru and Mangal shows one boy one girl or both boys, > which I don't know if it is correct. > > > > Saptaamsa lagna shows some afflictions but Guru is with Ketu > (ketau kulsya unnatim) and is 9th lord, while Surya is 5th lord and > well placed. Mangal is lagnalord exalted and well placed in the 10th > house but has parivartana with Sani. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > Pranaam. > > > > > > Thank you for your response. Well this is another resolution to > the > > > sometimes controversial issue of counting to the stronger lord > or > > > reckong both Arudha and then considering the stronger Arudha. > > > > > > Correct. So, the stronger Vikram Arudha is in the 5th from Lagna > and > > > is well placed from Surya. This solves a major problem for me, > > > regarding judging procreation potential in Tendulkar's chart. > > > > > > However, Bhagyapada is still badly afflicted by infertile > Mercury > > > and the 9th Bhava from the Lagna has a Graha. Unless I am > mistaken, > > > and I could well be, COVA states in one example that in case of > > > conflict the stronger of the Bhavas for which Padas have been > > > reckoned ought to be taken. Likewise, S3 is in the 6th from the > Sun, > > > though the stronger S9 is well placed. > > > > > > Apart from these issues, which your learned views will resolve, > I > > > suppose the only thing left is to consider the post-birth gross > > > affliction to the Putrakaraka and the Putrabhava with the > Brahmin > > > Shrapa. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anurag. > > > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar. > > > > There are two options for the Vikramapada in Sachins chart. > Which > > > do you > > > > think is stronger? > > > > > > > > Tendulkar, Sachin > > > > Natal Chart > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > Time: 16:25:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > Bombay, India > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > There was a discussion on Sachin Tendulkar's chart. I felt > some > > > > > confusion regarding progeny potential in his chart. I would > be > > > > > grateful if you could express your thoughts on the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Anurag Sharma " > > > > > <anuraagsharma27@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjay Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one slightly disconcerting thing I find about > this > > > birth > > > > > data for Sachin Tendulkar. Ishwar has blessed him with two > lovely > > > > > children and yet there is significant affliction to the areas > > > > > relating to progeny in the Rashi Chakra. Regarding the > physical > > > > > ability to procreate, the Arudha of the 3rd House, A3, is > > > conjoined > > > > > Neecha Budh in the 7th House. The Vikramarudha is also in > the > > > 12th > > > > > House from the Sun. Also, the Bhagyapada, A9, is also > conjoined > > > the > > > > > A3 and suffers identical affliction. The Arudha of the 3rd > House > > > as > > > > > reckoned from the Sun, S3, is also in the 6th House from the > Sun, > > > > > showing considerable affliction. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Putra Bhava is under a Brahmin Shrapa with Neecha Guru > and > > > > > exalted 3rd and 8th Lord Mars. I must be missing something > > > because > > > > > the chart otherwise illustrates well what you have taught. > Neecha > > > > > malefics in the Kendra Bhava give Rajayoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > A Vipreeta Raja Yoga is also formed by the Rashi Drishti > of the > > > > > two Dusthana Lords, Ketu and Rahu as they transfer the power > to > > > the > > > > > Lagna Lord Mercury. But they are debilitated while the Grahas > > > > > forming the Vipreeta Raja Yoga ought to be strong in the > Kendra > > > and > > > > > Trikona Bhava. Perhaps it is that his initial success was > > > astounding > > > > > considering the circumstances and then based on his > stupendous > > > > > abilities, the Rajayoga has been conventional. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly shed some light on the chart features pertaining to > > > progeny. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Anurag. > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > Excellent analysis. Rähu is like Saturn in its functions > and > > > if > > > > > Saturn causes > > > > > > kantaka in the fourth house, there is no reason that Rähu > > > will be > > > > > fair out > > > > > > there. Transit Rähu did hell for him. But I wonder if the > > > Kumbha > > > > > transit is > > > > > > better as it is the third house. > > > > > > I would prefer the Dwisaptati Sama dasa for Sachin > > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th > or > > > 7th > > > > > lord is in > > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven MD: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2001-09-13 > > > > > > Sat: 2001-09-13 - 2002-10-29 > > > > > > Rah: 2002-10-29 - 2003-12-13 > > > > > > Sun: 2003-12-13 - 2005-01-25 > > > > > > Moon: 2005-01-25 - 2006-03-11 > > > > > > Mars: 2006-03-11 - 2007-04-26 > > > > > > Merc: 2007-04-26 - 2008-06-11 > > > > > > Jup: 2008-06-11 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > Moon is with Rähu which is in debility and hence this > dasa > > > proved > > > > > hell for his > > > > > > emotions but did not see him retire. The present antardasa > is > > > of > > > > > Mars till april > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > However the dasa is very favorable as Venus is a > yogakaraka > > > and is > > > > > well placed > > > > > > in the 11th house from ärudha lagna promising much income > from > > > > > advertising and > > > > > > film or media area, especially for vehicles and clothes > ruled > > > by > > > > > Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > His career peak was during Jupiter dasa > > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th > or > > > 7th > > > > > lord is in > > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 1964-07-28 - 1973-07-28 > > > > > > Mars: 1973-07-28 - 1982-07-28 > > > > > > Merc: 1982-07-28 - 1991-07-29 > > > > > > Jup: 1991-07-29 - 2000-07-28 > > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > Sat: 2009-07-28 - 2018-07-29 > > > > > > Rah: 2018-07-29 - 2027-07-29 > > > > > > Sun: 2027-07-29 - 2036-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has nicabhanga rajayoga as it conjoins exalted > fighter > > > > > Mars and all the > > > > > > fighting powers of Mars he gets during that dasa. As > bädhaka > > > > > planet in > > > > > > debility, Jupiter can be in auspicious and this result is > being > > > > > seen during Mars > > > > > > antardasa - Mars gives Guru results and Jup gives Mars > results. > > > > > > His golden run was from Saturn to Mars antar in Jupiter > dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > In dasamsa Jup is in 9th house as 10th lord so räjayoga > > > happens > > > > > in that dasa. > > > > > > Venus is 5th lord, so it gives position and status as > Captain > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > PERFORMANCE > > > > > > The exalted Sun causea a very powerful Rajyoga for Virgo > lagna. > > > > > His performance > > > > > > has been good in February 2006 during the pratyantardasa > of Sun > > > > > when he hit > > > > > > another century. (Ven-Moon-Sun specifically) > > > > > > Then in May 2006 in Ven-Mar-Mer he wanted to retire...Mars > is > > > not > > > > > going to be > > > > > > easy in Venus period. > > > > > > If he plays then in 15 Jan to 6 Mar 2007 he will again hit > a > > > few > > > > > centuries!!! > > > > > > The Sun again. > > > > > > > > > > > > He should recite 'om namah shivaaya' calmly before going > to the > > > > > field....send > > > > > > him a fan mail if you really like him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- -- > --- > > > - > > > > > > Personal: WebPages â-? Rathâ?Ts Rhapsody > > > > > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â-? SJCERC â-? JIVA > > > > > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â-? Sagittarius > Publications > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- -- > --- > > > - > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > [sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40>] On > > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > utpal pathak > > > > > > Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40> > > > > > > Sachin is Back as Rahu has Gone from > the > > > 4th !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Gurudev ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In last June, I tried to analyse sachin Tendulkar's chart > in > > > > > response to a query > > > > > > posed by one mr. aiyer. Both the messages are given > herewith > > > for > > > > > your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now few things have come out correct and with God's grace, > his > > > > > career didn't end > > > > > > in 2005. I am happy as a serious student of astrology as > the > > > > > prediction proved > > > > > > right(glory unto the Vedic > > > > > > Astrology) but i am much more happy to see tendulkar > kicking & > > > > > firing with his > > > > > > original flamboynace. > > > > > > > > > > > > i have eagerly waited for the day of 12th Oct as the Rahu > > > (Mean) > > > > > is entering > > > > > > Kumbha and relieving him from " Heavy Heart " (4th from natal > > > > > > moon) and enters the Parakram Bhava. I always believed due > to > > > many > > > > > experiences > > > > > > that whenever Rahu Mahadasha is on for a native, Rahu is a > Boss > > > > > and it's Transit > > > > > > is Most effective during that period. > > > > > > > > > > > > SRT just survived (in career) the Multiple on slaught of > > > Transit > > > > > Rahu, Saturn & > > > > > > even Jupiter during last 14-15 months just because of the > extra > > > > > ordinary > > > > > > strength of His Natal chart. mainly due to Sun, Mars & > > > Strength of > > > > > Moon in Dhanu > > > > > > Rashi (Dhanu Rashi is the best among the zodiac in terms of > > > > > fighting spirit & > > > > > > competetiveness) . > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW It is a Time to watchout his game during Rahu in > Kumbha. > > > > > believe me !! it'll > > > > > > be a treat to watch. RAHU HAS GONE FROM THE 4TH, THE > DISTURBED > > > > > EMOTIONS ARE MUCH > > > > > > MORE BALANCED AND SACHIN IS BACK WITH THE BLAST STARTING > FROM > > > 15TH > > > > > OF OCT!! > > > > > > > > > > > > May Thakur Bless him ! > > > > > > > > > > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 |Om Saraswatyai Namah| Dear Utpal Ji, My last message was posted prematurely. In continuation of the discussion, for example, the 10th Lord from the Moon is seen for the social support received from the society in the realm of work. However, you are right when you quote the works of Dr. Raman. I have seen the Chandra Lagna being used in each case in both volumes of How to Judge a Horoscope. It was very illuminating to read so many perspectives on the great achiever's chart. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > || Jay Gurudev || > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as some > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is Pure, > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of my > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and has > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early marriage, Wife > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have asked > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars can't > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of Parakrama is > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field of > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & Recognition " . > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd aspecting > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon Lagna > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is a > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of Moon) > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should be > giving great results in career. > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his position as > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i indicated > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other weak > yogas. > ) > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i think that > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other other > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic that > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > together) > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha may not > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best Trine > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while 5th is > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well placed > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand notwithstanding his > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as Lagna > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & nothing > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable Brand) > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for your > knowledge. > > Yours, > > Utpal Pathak > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of the > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of this > chart are expressed below. > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's body. The > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female apparatus > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts need to > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and have not > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. Yes, > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests that the > chart might need them. > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; they > may be inane but are factual. > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use his > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this is > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. Budh is > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to ease the > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated planet > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was astonished > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these gestures. > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things matters of > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned here are > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life manifestations. > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything from > this amazing art. > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha malefics > below so I will not repeat. > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be causative of > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the curse > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' seen from > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic causing > the benefic to curse. > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He carries > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really bless at > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some mail > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak Guru is > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's words, I > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving the > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It is the > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the Arudha > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only benefics > are appreciated in the 8th from the Arudha. > > > > 2. Exalted Sun for Kanya Lagna weakens the Vipreeta Raja Yoga as > planets in the Dusthana should be weak for the Rajayoga to sustain. > > > > 3. I have to say that Neecha Badhak Guru in the 5th with the worst > malefic for the Lagna and aspected by the 6th Lord, the primary > Maraka for children is very serious affliction indeed. > > > > Sanjay Ji's reference to the Varga Chakras is very illustrative of > the factors that explain Tendulkar's success. But the Rashi chart, > and knowing it is probably the correct chart, suprises me with what > it has delivered. It is just the instinctive response of a Jyotishi > and a student of this art and should be understood in that manner. > > > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma. > > > > Web: http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > http://www.astrologyguild.com at the Articles page > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tendulkar's chart & Progeny-Visti > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > || Durgaa Smaranam || > > > > Dear Anuraag-ji, > > > > namaskar. May I be permitted to > provide some comments. The onus of birth is on mother as the entire > birth apparatus is in mother's body. Father provides the Sukra only. > Further we do not know if Sachin has undergone any treatments or > remedial measures. > > > > Sukra the kaaraka of semen in own nakshatra (Bharani) and Surya is > in Aswini nakshatra owned by Ketu, co-lord of the third house. > Further, 5th lord is well placed and in the nakshatra of Mangal who > is exalted with the kaaraka of children Guru. Guru gains strength in > presence of friend Mangal who is in own nakshatra hence quite > strong. However, Mangal is 3rd and 8th lord and can give some > problems in issues. Also, Guru is in Vrisabha navaamsa which is in > the 9th house of Rasi chart, therefore Guru is in Bhagyaamsa- yuktah. > Further, Chandra is digvali and gives neechabhanga to Guru and is > also Guru's nakshatra dispositor (Sravana). > > > > The Brahmin Shaapa is not about denial of children but about > sufferings indicated by the lordships of the afflictors. Further in > the 5th house (which is not a dusthana) the curse fructifies around > the period of childbirth. Here, affliction is primarily from Mangal > who is lord of 3rd and 8th houses while Rahu the other afflictor is > lord of 6th houses and can indicate injuries, diseases, > relationships with brothers etc which caused suffering. > > > > Although there are certain weaknesses in the chart regarding > children as pointed out by you, the rasi/navaamsa charts doesn't > show denial. Guru and Mangal shows one boy one girl or both boys, > which I don't know if it is correct. > > > > Saptaamsa lagna shows some afflictions but Guru is with Ketu > (ketau kulsya unnatim) and is 9th lord, while Surya is 5th lord and > well placed. Mangal is lagnalord exalted and well placed in the 10th > house but has parivartana with Sani. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > Pranaam. > > > > > > Thank you for your response. Well this is another resolution to > the > > > sometimes controversial issue of counting to the stronger lord > or > > > reckong both Arudha and then considering the stronger Arudha. > > > > > > Correct. So, the stronger Vikram Arudha is in the 5th from Lagna > and > > > is well placed from Surya. This solves a major problem for me, > > > regarding judging procreation potential in Tendulkar's chart. > > > > > > However, Bhagyapada is still badly afflicted by infertile > Mercury > > > and the 9th Bhava from the Lagna has a Graha. Unless I am > mistaken, > > > and I could well be, COVA states in one example that in case of > > > conflict the stronger of the Bhavas for which Padas have been > > > reckoned ought to be taken. Likewise, S3 is in the 6th from the > Sun, > > > though the stronger S9 is well placed. > > > > > > Apart from these issues, which your learned views will resolve, > I > > > suppose the only thing left is to consider the post-birth gross > > > affliction to the Putrakaraka and the Putrabhava with the > Brahmin > > > Shrapa. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anurag. > > > , Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Anurag, Namaskar. > > > > There are two options for the Vikramapada in Sachins chart. > Which > > > do you > > > > think is stronger? > > > > > > > > Tendulkar, Sachin > > > > Natal Chart > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > Time: 16:25:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > Bombay, India > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > There was a discussion on Sachin Tendulkar's chart. I felt > some > > > > > confusion regarding progeny potential in his chart. I would > be > > > > > grateful if you could express your thoughts on the same. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " Anurag Sharma " > > > > > <anuraagsharma27@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sanjay Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one slightly disconcerting thing I find about > this > > > birth > > > > > data for Sachin Tendulkar. Ishwar has blessed him with two > lovely > > > > > children and yet there is significant affliction to the areas > > > > > relating to progeny in the Rashi Chakra. Regarding the > physical > > > > > ability to procreate, the Arudha of the 3rd House, A3, is > > > conjoined > > > > > Neecha Budh in the 7th House. The Vikramarudha is also in > the > > > 12th > > > > > House from the Sun. Also, the Bhagyapada, A9, is also > conjoined > > > the > > > > > A3 and suffers identical affliction. The Arudha of the 3rd > House > > > as > > > > > reckoned from the Sun, S3, is also in the 6th House from the > Sun, > > > > > showing considerable affliction. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Putra Bhava is under a Brahmin Shrapa with Neecha Guru > and > > > > > exalted 3rd and 8th Lord Mars. I must be missing something > > > because > > > > > the chart otherwise illustrates well what you have taught. > Neecha > > > > > malefics in the Kendra Bhava give Rajayoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > A Vipreeta Raja Yoga is also formed by the Rashi Drishti > of the > > > > > two Dusthana Lords, Ketu and Rahu as they transfer the power > to > > > the > > > > > Lagna Lord Mercury. But they are debilitated while the Grahas > > > > > forming the Vipreeta Raja Yoga ought to be strong in the > Kendra > > > and > > > > > Trikona Bhava. Perhaps it is that his initial success was > > > astounding > > > > > considering the circumstances and then based on his > stupendous > > > > > abilities, the Rajayoga has been conventional. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly shed some light on the chart features pertaining to > > > progeny. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Anurag. > > > > > > Web: http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com > > > > > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > > > > Dear Utpal > > > > > > Excellent analysis. Rähu is like Saturn in its functions > and > > > if > > > > > Saturn causes > > > > > > kantaka in the fourth house, there is no reason that Rähu > > > will be > > > > > fair out > > > > > > there. Transit Rähu did hell for him. But I wonder if the > > > Kumbha > > > > > transit is > > > > > > better as it is the third house. > > > > > > I would prefer the Dwisaptati Sama dasa for Sachin > > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th > or > > > 7th > > > > > lord is in > > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven MD: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2001-09-13 > > > > > > Sat: 2001-09-13 - 2002-10-29 > > > > > > Rah: 2002-10-29 - 2003-12-13 > > > > > > Sun: 2003-12-13 - 2005-01-25 > > > > > > Moon: 2005-01-25 - 2006-03-11 > > > > > > Mars: 2006-03-11 - 2007-04-26 > > > > > > Merc: 2007-04-26 - 2008-06-11 > > > > > > Jup: 2008-06-11 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > Moon is with Rähu which is in debility and hence this > dasa > > > proved > > > > > hell for his > > > > > > emotions but did not see him retire. The present antardasa > is > > > of > > > > > Mars till april > > > > > > 2007 > > > > > > However the dasa is very favorable as Venus is a > yogakaraka > > > and is > > > > > well placed > > > > > > in the 11th house from ärudha lagna promising much income > from > > > > > advertising and > > > > > > film or media area, especially for vehicles and clothes > ruled > > > by > > > > > Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > His career peak was during Jupiter dasa > > > > > > Dwi-saptati sama dasa (applicable if lagna lord is in 7th > or > > > 7th > > > > > lord is in > > > > > > lagna): > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon: 1964-07-28 - 1973-07-28 > > > > > > Mars: 1973-07-28 - 1982-07-28 > > > > > > Merc: 1982-07-28 - 1991-07-29 > > > > > > Jup: 1991-07-29 - 2000-07-28 > > > > > > Ven: 2000-07-28 - 2009-07-28 > > > > > > Sat: 2009-07-28 - 2018-07-29 > > > > > > Rah: 2018-07-29 - 2027-07-29 > > > > > > Sun: 2027-07-29 - 2036-07-28 > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has nicabhanga rajayoga as it conjoins exalted > fighter > > > > > Mars and all the > > > > > > fighting powers of Mars he gets during that dasa. As > bädhaka > > > > > planet in > > > > > > debility, Jupiter can be in auspicious and this result is > being > > > > > seen during Mars > > > > > > antardasa - Mars gives Guru results and Jup gives Mars > results. > > > > > > His golden run was from Saturn to Mars antar in Jupiter > dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > In dasamsa Jup is in 9th house as 10th lord so räjayoga > > > happens > > > > > in that dasa. > > > > > > Venus is 5th lord, so it gives position and status as > Captain > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > PERFORMANCE > > > > > > The exalted Sun causea a very powerful Rajyoga for Virgo > lagna. > > > > > His performance > > > > > > has been good in February 2006 during the pratyantardasa > of Sun > > > > > when he hit > > > > > > another century. (Ven-Moon-Sun specifically) > > > > > > Then in May 2006 in Ven-Mar-Mer he wanted to retire...Mars > is > > > not > > > > > going to be > > > > > > easy in Venus period. > > > > > > If he plays then in 15 Jan to 6 Mar 2007 he will again hit > a > > > few > > > > > centuries!!! > > > > > > The Sun again. > > > > > > > > > > > > He should recite 'om namah shivaaya' calmly before going > to the > > > > > field....send > > > > > > him a fan mail if you really like him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- -- > --- > > > - > > > > > > Personal: WebPages â-? Rathâ?Ts Rhapsody > > > > > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â-? SJCERC â-? JIVA > > > > > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest â-? Sagittarius > Publications > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- -- > --- > > > - > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > [sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40>] On > > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > utpal pathak > > > > > > Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40> > > > > > > Sachin is Back as Rahu has Gone from > the > > > 4th !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Gurudev ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In last June, I tried to analyse sachin Tendulkar's chart > in > > > > > response to a query > > > > > > posed by one mr. aiyer. Both the messages are given > herewith > > > for > > > > > your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now few things have come out correct and with God's grace, > his > > > > > career didn't end > > > > > > in 2005. I am happy as a serious student of astrology as > the > > > > > prediction proved > > > > > > right(glory unto the Vedic > > > > > > Astrology) but i am much more happy to see tendulkar > kicking & > > > > > firing with his > > > > > > original flamboynace. > > > > > > > > > > > > i have eagerly waited for the day of 12th Oct as the Rahu > > > (Mean) > > > > > is entering > > > > > > Kumbha and relieving him from " Heavy Heart " (4th from natal > > > > > > moon) and enters the Parakram Bhava. I always believed due > to > > > many > > > > > experiences > > > > > > that whenever Rahu Mahadasha is on for a native, Rahu is a > Boss > > > > > and it's Transit > > > > > > is Most effective during that period. > > > > > > > > > > > > SRT just survived (in career) the Multiple on slaught of > > > Transit > > > > > Rahu, Saturn & > > > > > > even Jupiter during last 14-15 months just because of the > extra > > > > > ordinary > > > > > > strength of His Natal chart. mainly due to Sun, Mars & > > > Strength of > > > > > Moon in Dhanu > > > > > > Rashi (Dhanu Rashi is the best among the zodiac in terms of > > > > > fighting spirit & > > > > > > competetiveness) . > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW It is a Time to watchout his game during Rahu in > Kumbha. > > > > > believe me !! it'll > > > > > > be a treat to watch. RAHU HAS GONE FROM THE 4TH, THE > DISTURBED > > > > > EMOTIONS ARE MUCH > > > > > > MORE BALANCED AND SACHIN IS BACK WITH THE BLAST STARTING > FROM > > > 15TH > > > > > OF OCT!! > > > > > > > > > > > > May Thakur Bless him ! > > > > > > > > > > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Dear all, As I saw that there is no concurrance on the correct birth time for Tendulkar, I did a search over the web. It is not surprising to find that many astrologers have given their reading on his chart. However, the interesting thing to note is that each one has used a different birth time (varying from 7:30 am to 4:30pm). And with different lagnas from Taurus to Virgo, everyone seem to have their own reasoning for his great sucess as a sport person and they also have their own reasoning for the recent troubles and the reasoning for bright future! There can be only one correct lagna. It might be true that exalted Sun and exalted Mars have made him a great sports person. However, will that happen irrespective of any lagna is my question. I request the learned members to give their thoughts on the same. Regards, Krishna --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote: > || Jay Gurudev || > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as > some > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is > Pure, > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of > my > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and > has > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early > marriage, Wife > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have > asked > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars > can't > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of > Parakrama is > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field > of > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & > Recognition " . > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd > aspecting > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon > Lagna > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is > a > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of > Moon) > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should > be > giving great results in career. > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his > position as > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i > indicated > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other > weak > yogas. > ) > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i > think that > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other > other > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic > that > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > > together) > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha > may not > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best > Trine > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while > 5th is > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well > placed > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand > notwithstanding his > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as > Lagna > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & > nothing > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable > Brand) > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for > your > knowledge. > > Yours, > > Utpal Pathak > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > Namaskar. > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of > the > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of > this > chart are expressed below. > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's > body. The > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female > apparatus > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts > need to > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and > have not > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. > Yes, > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests > that the > chart might need them. > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; > they > may be inane but are factual. > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use > his > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this > is > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. > Budh is > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to > ease the > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated > planet > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was > astonished > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these > gestures. > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things > matters of > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned > here are > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life > manifestations. > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything > from > this amazing art. > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha > malefics > below so I will not repeat. > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be > causative of > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the > curse > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' > seen from > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic > causing > the benefic to curse. > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He > carries > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really > bless at > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some > mail > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak > Guru is > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's > words, I > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving > the > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It > is the > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the > Arudha > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only > benefics === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 || Jay Guruev || Dear Krishnamurthy Seetharama, Most of us have ability to proove Incidents with any Lagna & any Dasha and that is the most amazing Amusement:). So If one is in dowbt about somebody's timing which is speculated in the range of 7.30am & 4.30 pm and also not able to judge the lagna even with one's Intuitive self or Sheer Logic considering the known facts & past incidents of native and in addition the native in question is a famous public figure - then " Natal Moon " can be taken as Reference point to a good advantage and prediction can be made to a good degree of perfection. this is my personal opinion & liable to criticism. Regards, Utpal Pathak sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear all, > > As I saw that there is no concurrance on the correct birth time > for Tendulkar, I did a search over the web. It is not surprising > to find that many astrologers have given their reading on his > chart. > > However, the interesting thing to note is that each one has used > a different birth time (varying from 7:30 am to 4:30pm). And > with different lagnas from Taurus to Virgo, everyone seem to > have their own reasoning for his great sucess as a sport person > and they also have their own reasoning for the recent troubles > and the reasoning for bright future! > > There can be only one correct lagna. It might be true that > exalted Sun and exalted Mars have made him a great sports > person. > > However, will that happen irrespective of any lagna is my > question. I request the learned members to give their thoughts > on the same. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote: > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as > > some > > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is > > Pure, > > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of > > my > > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and > > has > > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early > > marriage, Wife > > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have > > asked > > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars > > can't > > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of > > Parakrama is > > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field > > of > > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & > > Recognition " . > > > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd > > aspecting > > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon > > Lagna > > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is > > a > > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of > > Moon) > > > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > > > > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should > > be > > giving great results in career. > > > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his > > position as > > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i > > indicated > > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other > > weak > > yogas. > > ) > > > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i > > think that > > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other > > other > > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic > > that > > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > > > > together) > > > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha > > may not > > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best > > Trine > > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while > > 5th is > > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well > > placed > > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand > > notwithstanding his > > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as > > Lagna > > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & > > nothing > > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable > > Brand) > > > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for > > your > > knowledge. > > > > Yours, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of > > the > > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of > > this > > chart are expressed below. > > > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's > > body. The > > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female > > apparatus > > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts > > need to > > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and > > have not > > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. > > Yes, > > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests > > that the > > chart might need them. > > > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; > > they > > may be inane but are factual. > > > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > > > > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use > > his > > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this > > is > > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. > > Budh is > > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to > > ease the > > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated > > planet > > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was > > astonished > > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these > > gestures. > > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things > > matters of > > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned > > here are > > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life > > manifestations. > > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything > > from > > this amazing art. > > > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha > > malefics > > below so I will not repeat. > > > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be > > causative of > > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the > > curse > > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' > > seen from > > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic > > causing > > the benefic to curse. > > > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He > > carries > > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really > > bless at > > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some > > mail > > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak > > Guru is > > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's > > words, I > > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving > > the > > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It > > is the > > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the > > Arudha > > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only > > benefics > === message truncated === > > > Regards, > Krishna > http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Friends, Beautiful discussion is current.Chart of Celebrity Sachin Tendulkar has been widly discussed by Giants like Sh Sanjay,PVR , Visti and others from time to time. I always think astrolgers do hard work and contemplation in their own way to reach the truth :alas , sometime they are made to work on dubious data. Success rate of events in sachins chart by many is amazing but here is a extract of letter that apperaed in astrological Magazine, that may propmt one to rethink and evalute the situation for I find TOB are different " Madam- Sachin was born at 13.oo on 24, April 1973 at the Mumbai Hospital according to the correct time of birth provided by Mr G.S.Tendulkar( The A.M. sept 2005 , page 610) as disclosed by the attending docter......'Sita Ram Singh New Delhi " Note page nuber quoted By Sita ram 610 does not belong to Sept 2005may be priting or typo. I thought of sharing the information .EVEM BIRTH DATE is at VARIANCE. OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > || Jay Guruev || > > Dear Krishnamurthy Seetharama, > > Most of us have ability to proove Incidents with any Lagna & any > Dasha and that is the most amazing Amusement:). > > So If one is in dowbt about somebody's timing which is speculated in > the range of 7.30am & 4.30 pm and also not able to judge the lagna > even with one's Intuitive self or Sheer Logic considering the known > facts & past incidents of native and in addition the native in > question is a famous public figure - then " Natal Moon " can be taken > as Reference point to a good advantage and prediction can be made to > a good degree of perfection. > > this is my personal opinion & liable to criticism. > > Regards, > > Utpal Pathak > > sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > As I saw that there is no concurrance on the correct birth time > > for Tendulkar, I did a search over the web. It is not surprising > > to find that many astrologers have given their reading on his > > chart. > > > > However, the interesting thing to note is that each one has used > > a different birth time (varying from 7:30 am to 4:30pm). And > > with different lagnas from Taurus to Virgo, everyone seem to > > have their own reasoning for his great sucess as a sport person > > and they also have their own reasoning for the recent troubles > > and the reasoning for bright future! > > > > There can be only one correct lagna. It might be true that > > exalted Sun and exalted Mars have made him a great sports > > person. > > > > However, will that happen irrespective of any lagna is my > > question. I request the learned members to give their thoughts > > on the same. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > > > > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as > > > some > > > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > > > > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is > > > Pure, > > > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of > > > my > > > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and > > > has > > > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early > > > marriage, Wife > > > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > > > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > > > > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have > > > asked > > > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > > > > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars > > > can't > > > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of > > > Parakrama is > > > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field > > > of > > > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & > > > Recognition " . > > > > > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd > > > aspecting > > > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon > > > Lagna > > > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is > > > a > > > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > > > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of > > > Moon) > > > > > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > > > > > > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should > > > be > > > giving great results in career. > > > > > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his > > > position as > > > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i > > > indicated > > > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other > > > weak > > > yogas. > > > ) > > > > > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i > > > think that > > > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other > > > other > > > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic > > > that > > > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > > > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > > > > > > together) > > > > > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha > > > may not > > > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > > > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best > > > Trine > > > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > > > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while > > > 5th is > > > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > > > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > > > > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well > > > placed > > > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand > > > notwithstanding his > > > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as > > > Lagna > > > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & > > > nothing > > > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable > > > Brand) > > > > > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for > > > your > > > knowledge. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of > > > the > > > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of > > > this > > > chart are expressed below. > > > > > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's > > > body. The > > > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > > > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female > > > apparatus > > > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > > > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts > > > need to > > > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and > > > have not > > > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. > > > Yes, > > > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests > > > that the > > > chart might need them. > > > > > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; > > > they > > > may be inane but are factual. > > > > > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > > > > > > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use > > > his > > > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > > > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this > > > is > > > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. > > > Budh is > > > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > > > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to > > > ease the > > > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated > > > planet > > > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was > > > astonished > > > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these > > > gestures. > > > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things > > > matters of > > > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned > > > here are > > > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life > > > manifestations. > > > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything > > > from > > > this amazing art. > > > > > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha > > > malefics > > > below so I will not repeat. > > > > > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be > > > causative of > > > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > > > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the > > > curse > > > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' > > > seen from > > > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic > > > causing > > > the benefic to curse. > > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He > > > carries > > > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really > > > bless at > > > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some > > > mail > > > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak > > > Guru is > > > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's > > > words, I > > > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving > > > the > > > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It > > > is the > > > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the > > > Arudha > > > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only > > > benefics > > === message truncated === > > > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 || Jay Gurudev || Pranaam ! Srivastava ji, Yes, you are right. I've also read the perticular issue and had immediately shared this information to VA list (Before i left the list in last November). But still there are some dowbts about it because he has quoated the Doctor. Now I am very much dowbtful if a doctor precisely can remeber time of an indivdual after so many years. May be he has given the data from hospital records but there is no mention of that. One Important Information about Sachin --> He Loves Cricket Ground and In olden days he could not sleep without visiting any ground nearby, at least once in a day (i don't if he still carries that habit) Secondly, I should provide you datas of My colleague who resembles Sachin in some ways. 21.4.1973, 16.30, Mumbai (72e50, 19n00) Similarities - 1) very Similar voice like Sachin's (Soft & Un-manly) 2) Very early marraige & early child 3) Love marriage, Wife elder to him & vey good married life 4) Recongnition in technical field due to great technical skills Though acadamic is not great-not even engg. diploma - working in Siemens (USA) as commissioning engineer just on the basis of his expertise. intrested students can compare the charts if it helps to arrive at a conclusion regarding SRT's Lagna. one can also check out the basic characterisitics (Appearnce etc..) of different Lagna to get the help. Yours, Utpal Pathak sohamsa , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > Beautiful discussion is current.Chart of Celebrity Sachin > Tendulkar has been widly discussed by Giants like Sh Sanjay,PVR , > Visti and others from time to time. > I always think astrolgers do hard work and contemplation in their > own way to reach the truth :alas , sometime they are made to work on > dubious data. > Success rate of events in sachins chart by many is amazing but here > is a extract of letter that apperaed in astrological Magazine, that > may propmt one to rethink and evalute the situation for I find TOB > are different > " Madam- Sachin was born at 13.oo on 24, April 1973 at the Mumbai > Hospital according to the correct time of birth provided by Mr > G.S.Tendulkar( The A.M. sept 2005 , page 610) as disclosed by the > attending docter......'Sita Ram Singh New Delhi " > Note page nuber quoted By Sita ram 610 does not belong to Sept > 2005may be priting or typo. > I thought of sharing the information .EVEM BIRTH DATE is at VARIANCE. > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava > > > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> > wrote: > > > > || Jay Guruev || > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy Seetharama, > > > > Most of us have ability to proove Incidents with any Lagna & any > > Dasha and that is the most amazing Amusement:). > > > > So If one is in dowbt about somebody's timing which is speculated > in > > the range of 7.30am & 4.30 pm and also not able to judge the lagna > > even with one's Intuitive self or Sheer Logic considering the > known > > facts & past incidents of native and in addition the native in > > question is a famous public figure - then " Natal Moon " can be > taken > > as Reference point to a good advantage and prediction can be made > to > > a good degree of perfection. > > > > this is my personal opinion & liable to criticism. > > > > Regards, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > As I saw that there is no concurrance on the correct birth time > > > for Tendulkar, I did a search over the web. It is not surprising > > > to find that many astrologers have given their reading on his > > > chart. > > > > > > However, the interesting thing to note is that each one has used > > > a different birth time (varying from 7:30 am to 4:30pm). And > > > with different lagnas from Taurus to Virgo, everyone seem to > > > have their own reasoning for his great sucess as a sport person > > > and they also have their own reasoning for the recent troubles > > > and the reasoning for bright future! > > > > > > There can be only one correct lagna. It might be true that > > > exalted Sun and exalted Mars have made him a great sports > > > person. > > > > > > However, will that happen irrespective of any lagna is my > > > question. I request the learned members to give their thoughts > > > on the same. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there as > > > > some > > > > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > > > > > > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as he is > > > > Pure, > > > > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a Chart of > > > > my > > > > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar and > > > > has > > > > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early > > > > marriage, Wife > > > > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, great > > > > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > > > > > > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you have > > > > asked > > > > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > > > > > > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that Mars > > > > can't > > > > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of > > > > Parakrama is > > > > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the field > > > > of > > > > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & > > > > Recognition " . > > > > > > > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd > > > > aspecting > > > > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from Moon > > > > Lagna > > > > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as he is > > > > a > > > > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to give > > > > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point of > > > > Moon) > > > > > > > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's Tripod > > > > > > > > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so should > > > > be > > > > giving great results in career. > > > > > > > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his > > > > position as > > > > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i > > > > indicated > > > > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken other > > > > weak > > > > yogas. > > > > ) > > > > > > > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but i > > > > think that > > > > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all other > > > > other > > > > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one classic > > > > that > > > > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong mercury.........Sun's > > > > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other planets put > > > > > > > > together) > > > > > > > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of Dosha > > > > may not > > > > prove bad for progeny because of the following reasons > > > > - The despositor Saturn, which is also 5th lord is in best > > > > Trine > > > > unaffiliated by other natural malefics > > > > - 5th from Moon is exalted and aspecting own 5th house while > > > > 5th is > > > > occupied by exalted 9th lord Sun. > > > > - 5th from Jupiter is 9th house is also not badly placed. > > > > > > > > (Some additional- Mercury is Debilitated Lagna lord not well > > > > placed > > > > in 7th still Tendulkar has become Hottest Brand > > > > notwithstanding his > > > > many limitations. -- Mercury is in Kendra to Moon as well as > > > > Lagna > > > > and both this references denotes " Fame " and hence His Fame & > > > > nothing > > > > else is responsible for his status as one of the Most sellable > > > > Brand) > > > > > > > > I bag your pardon if over written as I have a high regard for > > > > your > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Om Saraswatyai Namah| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your views. I agree with your expression of > > > > the > > > > Paramparic Jyotish stand as being accurate. Some thoughts of > > > > this > > > > chart are expressed below. > > > > > > > > > > The entire birth apparatus is certainly in the mother's > > > > body. The > > > > Arudha in the male chart are seen for : (a) potency and (b) > > > > sterility/ infertility. If potency is an issue, the female > > > > apparatus > > > > is rendered actively defunct. If sterility is an issue, the > > > > apparatus cannot work suo moto. It is union and both charts > > > > need to > > > > fulfil the criteria. I trust your analysis of the Varga and > > > > have not > > > > checked. The Nakshatra perspective may also be totally valid. > > > > Yes, > > > > Sachin may have had remedial measures. You phrase suggests > > > > that the > > > > chart might need them. > > > > > > > > > > I feel the chart is correct. Two rather inane observations; > > > > they > > > > may be inane but are factual. > > > > > > > > > > For a man of such calibre, his voice has inspired bad jokes. > > > > > > > > Neecha Budh at play. Despite that advertising continues to use > > > > his > > > > voice as it is. Neechabhanga. He sometimes struggles with the > > > > quality of his spoken expression. Neecha Budh. However, this > > > > is > > > > crucially a part of the work he does as an advertising icon. > > > > Budh is > > > > in the 10th from AL in Rashi Chart. > > > > > > > > > > The other somewhat worthless observation is about his > > > > characteristic bending of the knees in a nervous gesture to > > > > ease the > > > > groin while playing. Again the 7th House and the debilitated > > > > planet > > > > in the Marana Karaka Sthana. In a cricket game, one was > > > > astonished > > > > to see Mr. Sunil Gavaskar go up to a mimic who made these > > > > gestures. > > > > Personally, it is less than dignified to make such things > > > > matters of > > > > focus but this sort of a thing happens in modern day India. > > > > > > > > > > The only reason these preculairities are being mentioned > > > > here are > > > > to see to what extent Jyotish can illustrate life > > > > manifestations. > > > > This in turn is borne out of a personal need to see everything > > > > from > > > > this amazing art. > > > > > > > > > > Back to the matter at hand. I have talked of the Neecha > > > > malefics > > > > below so I will not repeat. > > > > > > > > > > About Brahmin Shrapa, one is aware that in may not be > > > > causative of > > > > denial. But as Visti pointed out in another segment on 'Bhava > > > > Shrapa', the Naisargika Karakattwa and the house where the > > > > curse > > > > happens are both to be noted, apart from the 'source area' > > > > seen from > > > > the most powerful house owned by the most powerful malefic > > > > causing > > > > the benefic to curse. > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji mentioned about Guru for mutable Lagnas where He > > > > carries > > > > the Kendradhipati Dosha as saying that such Guru can really > > > > bless at > > > > the time of marriage (where it is 7th Lord). This was in some > > > > mail > > > > somewhere else. So we can take it that despite being Badhak > > > > Guru is > > > > still capable of blessing. Fine. > > > > > > > > > > In Sanjay Ji's analysis responding to Sri Utpal Pathak's > > > > words, I > > > > found the following questions arising in my mind: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jupiter Dasha was the peak of his career. It was giving > > > > the > > > > results of Mars, the most malefic planet for Kanya Lagna! It > > > > is the > > > > 3rd and 8th Lord. Further, it is in the 8th House from the > > > > Arudha > > > > Lagna as a dire malefic even from the Arudha Lagan. Only > > > > benefics > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Dear Srivastava ji, Thanks a lot! This is the time that I had noted down in my database based on one members mail a couple of months back. I don't remember who that member is from another group. I did financial analysis using 13:00 hrs as the birth time and it matches well so far with Sachin's financial situation. He seems to have a very bright financial future as well. However, assuming this time as correct one, I am very concerned with the longevity aspect. Regards, Krishna --- " R.C.Srivastava " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > Beautiful discussion is current.Chart of Celebrity Sachin > Tendulkar has been widly discussed by Giants like Sh > Sanjay,PVR , > Visti and others from time to time. > I always think astrolgers do hard work and contemplation in > their > own way to reach the truth :alas , sometime they are made to > work on > dubious data. > Success rate of events in sachins chart by many is amazing > but here > is a extract of letter that apperaed in astrological Magazine, > that > may propmt one to rethink and evalute the situation for I find > TOB > are different > " Madam- Sachin was born at 13.oo on 24, April 1973 at the > Mumbai > Hospital according to the correct time of birth provided by Mr > > G.S.Tendulkar( The A.M. sept 2005 , page 610) as disclosed by > the > attending docter......'Sita Ram Singh New Delhi " > Note page nuber quoted By Sita ram 610 does not belong to Sept > > 2005may be priting or typo. > I thought of sharing the information .EVEM BIRTH DATE is at > VARIANCE. > OM TAT SAT > R.C.Srivastava > > > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " > <vedic_pathak > wrote: > > > > || Jay Guruev || > > > > Dear Krishnamurthy Seetharama, > > > > Most of us have ability to proove Incidents with any Lagna & > any > > Dasha and that is the most amazing Amusement:). > > > > So If one is in dowbt about somebody's timing which is > speculated > in > > the range of 7.30am & 4.30 pm and also not able to judge the > lagna > > even with one's Intuitive self or Sheer Logic considering > the > known > > facts & past incidents of native and in addition the native > in > > question is a famous public figure - then " Natal Moon " can > be > taken > > as Reference point to a good advantage and prediction can be > made > to > > a good degree of perfection. > > > > this is my personal opinion & liable to criticism. > > > > Regards, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > As I saw that there is no concurrance on the correct birth > time > > > for Tendulkar, I did a search over the web. It is not > surprising > > > to find that many astrologers have given their reading on > his > > > chart. > > > > > > However, the interesting thing to note is that each one > has used > > > a different birth time (varying from 7:30 am to 4:30pm). > And > > > with different lagnas from Taurus to Virgo, everyone seem > to > > > have their own reasoning for his great sucess as a sport > person > > > and they also have their own reasoning for the recent > troubles > > > and the reasoning for bright future! > > > > > > There can be only one correct lagna. It might be true that > > > exalted Sun and exalted Mars have made him a great sports > > > person. > > > > > > However, will that happen irrespective of any lagna is my > > > question. I request the learned members to give their > thoughts > > > on the same. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > || Jay Gurudev || > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag ji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > This controversy on " lagna " Tendulkar is very much there > as > > > > some > > > > prefers " Simha " as Lagna. > > > > > > > > I personally, along with many others stick to " Kanya " as > he is > > > > Pure, > > > > Kanya like... Shy personality [actually i have seen a > Chart of > > > > my > > > > colleague in 1996 who has almost same chart as Tendulkar > and > > > > has > > > > some similarity with him such as Love marriage, early > > > > marriage, Wife > > > > elder then him, awards & recognition in his own field, > great > > > > Technical skills (in Industrial Automation)] > > > > > > > > I have tried to express my thoughts on the questions you > have > > > > asked > > > > to shri sourav. i hope you won't object. > > > > > > > > 1) It is very general & hence very risky to say that > Mars > > > > can't > > > > bestow excellent results on Kanaya Lagna. 3rd lord of > > > > Parakrama is > > > > exalted in 5th is an indicator of Great prowess in the > field > > > > of > > > > Sports. It is also an Indicator of " Many Awards & > > > > Recognition " . > > > > > > > > *If we Take Moon Lagna, Mars is 5th Lord exalted in 2nd > > > > aspecting > > > > exalted 9th lord sun which is placed in 5th. hence from > Moon > > > > Lagna > > > > Mars is exceedingly well placed (One can consider it as > he is > > > > a > > > > Public figure and as Dr. Raman warned astrologers not to > give > > > > judgment unless chart is also seen from reference point > of > > > > Moon) > > > > > > > > * If we consider Mars Dasha from Sun (As per Sanjayji's > Tripod > > > > > > > > principle) , He is Placed in 10th from Sun & exalted so > should > > > > be > > > > giving great results in career. > > > > > > > > * I have no convincing answer for your point about his > > > > position as > > > > 8th from AL. (I think Sun & Mars are SO VERY STRONG as i > > > > indicated > > > > in my earlier Mail that has Probably or Surely overtaken > other > > > > weak > > > > yogas. > > > > ) > > > > > > > > 2) Sanjay ji can probably thro' some light on that. but > i > > > > think that > > > > Sun's Strength is too great which has steer-clear all > other > > > > other > > > > small weaknesses. (we have a particular Shloka in one > classic > > > > that > > > > Rahu's evil can be nullified by strong > mercury.........Sun's > > > > strength can nullify the weakness of all the other > planets put > > > > > > > > together) > > > > > > > > 3) Jupiter though Debilitated & carrying all kinds of > Dosha > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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