Buddhism and Dasha-Avataar in our Vedic ( Hindu ) History..

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Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Dear Gurujans and Friends,

 

Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is

quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this

and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -

 

1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion altogether?

other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has been

inline to the Sanatana Dharma.

2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma ( Soul ).

But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?

3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings and

spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the effects of

Jainism and Buddhisms?

4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what reasons?

5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the " Tridevs " or

Tridevis " and centres around the philosophy of " Ahimsa " .

 

There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say

its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy

theory?

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Akash,

I would like to refer to your last line:

"There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy > theory?" (italics and underline is mine)

Well, I have heard that 9/11 is actually the work of the Israeli Intelligence,Osama Bin Laden is a closet Christian missionary,Saddam Hussein was't executed, but lives peacefully in California. Yes I have heard all that and many more conspiracy theories.

But Buddhism a conspiracy theory? Really? Come now, come... The Puranas are engaged in "conspiracy"? Really?

(I have't heard all this yet. But I have to admit that this is something new.)

With deep respect:

Arpadh Joo

 

 

 

sohamsa , "nodinodu" <avbhat2005 wrote:>> Om Namh Shivaya!> > Dear Gurujans and Friends,> > Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is > quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this > and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -> > 1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion altogether? > other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has been > inline to the Sanatana Dharma.> 2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma ( Soul ). > But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?> 3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings and > spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the effects of > Jainism and Buddhisms?> 4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what reasons?> 5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the "Tridevs" or > Tridevis" and centres around the philosophy of "Ahimsa".> > There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy > theory?> > With Regards> /-Akash..>

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Hare Rama Krsna Dear Arpad,

This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...

Swatinamah shivaya On 1/17/07,

Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Akash,

I would like to refer to your last line:

" There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)

Well, I have heard that 9/11 is actually the work of the Israeli Intelligence,Osama Bin Laden is a closet Christian missionary,Saddam Hussein was't executed, but lives peacefully in California. Yes I have heard all that and many more conspiracy theories.

 

But Buddhism a conspiracy theory? Really? Come now, come... The Puranas are engaged in " conspiracy " ? Really?

(I have't heard all this yet. But I have to admit that this is something new.)

With deep respect:

Arpadh Joo

 

 

 

sohamsa , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005 wrote:>> Om Namh Shivaya!> > Dear Gurujans and Friends,>

> Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is > quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this > and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -> > 1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion altogether? > other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has been > inline to the Sanatana Dharma.> 2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma ( Soul ). > But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?

> 3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings and > spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the effects of > Jainism and Buddhisms?> 4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what reasons?

> 5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the " Tridevs " or > Tridevis " and centres around the philosophy of " Ahimsa " .> > There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy > theory?> > With Regards> /-Akash..>

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Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Dear Arpadh,

 

You got it slighty wrong. What i meant by conspiracy is not

regarding Buddhism but about buddhism being tagged under Sanatana

Dharma and of the saying that Buddha is the avataar of Vishnu. Its

not my contention but a thought which occured to me. Open for debate

and all..

 

With Regards

/-Akash.

 

sohamsa , " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote:

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Akash,

>

> I would like to refer to your last line:

>

> " There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

> > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we

say

> > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy

> > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)

>

> Well, I have heard that 9/11 is actually the work of the Israeli

> Intelligence,Osama Bin Laden is a closet Christian

missionary,Saddam

> Hussein was't executed, but lives peacefully in California. Yes I

have

> heard all that and many more conspiracy theories.

>

> But Buddhism a conspiracy theory? Really? Come now, come... The

Puranas

> are engaged in " conspiracy " ? Really?

>

> (I have't heard all this yet. But I have to admit that this is

something

> new.)

>

> With deep respect:

>

> Arpadh Joo

>

>

>

sohamsa , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namh Shivaya!

> >

> > Dear Gurujans and Friends,

> >

> > Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is

> > quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this

> > and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -

> >

> > 1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion

altogether?

> > other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has

been

> > inline to the Sanatana Dharma.

> > 2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma (

Soul ).

> > But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?

> > 3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings

and

> > spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the

effects of

> > Jainism and Buddhisms?

> > 4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what

reasons?

> > 5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the " Tridevs " or

> > Tridevis " and centres around the philosophy of " Ahimsa " .

> >

> > There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

> > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we

say

> > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy

> > theory?

> >

> > With Regards

> > /-Akash..

> >

>

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Dear Intellectuals:

 

In the Lord Jagannaatha temple of PURI, ORISSA, India

and at some other places, the Dasaavataar idols includes Buddhaavataar.

 

Many Boudhic rituals are also included in the Pooja-vidhis of Lord Jagannath including

Taantric and medication theories.

 

Sanaatan Dharam's present swaroop seems vast

and intellectuals having no ANTARA-DRISHTI can't see the original Swaroop.

(Like 7 blind-persons touches different parts of an elephant and

express their outlook about the elephant,

one touching the tail says it is like a rope,

another touching Ears says it is like a Soopa...).

 

The integrity of Sanaatan in Samashti needs greater insight to understand.

First open your insight (say Third eye)

Try to be situated in your own soul consiciousness

Try to get yourself (your soul) out of your body for a while

This is the first step of opening insight....

 

Sanaatan (Hindutwa) is very misunderstood by peoples having limited Spi. power

 

For example:

The Great Banyan tree at Birala Garden at Howrah, Kolkata

now has more than 700 roots and with new hanging roots

it is ever-expanding and crossing the boundary of the garden

which root was the original? it is impossible to find out

the secondary roots became more thicker

the original stem or root, it is said, it was uprooted due to a storm

in 1600 AD.

 

Likewise the branches of Sanaatan Dharma now appearing more clearly

where as the original seems disappeared/hidden.

 

This is the need of time to keep hidden the secret and sacred knowlede

as lot of misusers (Like Bhasmaasura) are wandering to catch

 

Hariram

 

 

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Hare Rama KrsnaDear Arpad,This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...Swatinamah shivayaOn 1/17/07, Arpad Joo <

panchasila wrote:>> " There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever> > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say> > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a *conspiracy

> > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)*

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Arpad Joo,

Namaste

 

I understand perhaps wrongly that the Vajra (mandala) teachings of Buddha is inclined towards shakti. Would appreciate your feed back.

 

love,

 

Swee

 

 

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Akash,

>

> I would like to refer to your last line:

>

> " There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

> > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we

say

> > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy

> > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)

>

> Well, I have heard that 9/11 is actually the work of the Israeli

> Intelligence,Osama Bin Laden is a closet Christian

missionary,Saddam

> Hussein was't executed, but lives peacefully in California. Yes I

have

> heard all that and many more conspiracy theories.

>

> But Buddhism a conspiracy theory? Really? Come now, come... The

Puranas

> are engaged in " conspiracy " ? Really?

>

> (I have't heard all this yet. But I have to admit that this is

something

> new.)

>

> With deep respect:

>

> Arpadh Joo

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namh Shivaya!

> >

> > Dear Gurujans and Friends,

> >

> > Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is

> > quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this

> > and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -

> >

> > 1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion

altogether?

> > other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has

been

> > inline to the Sanatana Dharma.

> > 2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma (

Soul ).

> > But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?

> > 3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings

and

> > spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the

effects of

> > Jainism and Buddhisms?

> > 4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what

reasons?

> > 5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the " Tridevs " or

> > Tridevis " and centres around the philosophy of " Ahimsa " .

> >

> > There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

> > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we

say

> > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy

> > theory?

> >

> > With Regards

> > /-Akash..

> >

>

 

 

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Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Dear Hariram,

 

A very good educative response. But can you tell why is it that only

in PURI temple the buddic rituals are followed and not other temples

in india or other parts of the world. I cannot comment on this since

I am not sure of this. If its Sanatana Dharma that Buddhism follows

and preaches then its followings and proceedings has to be atleast

found in other temples also in a buddhist way. Can you mention a few

for the benefit of this group?

 

Secondly if one needs " ANTARA-DRISHTI " to visualize and

understand " Buddha " avataar's relation to Sanatana Dharma then why

the same is not needed for other Dasa avaataars..

 

If for the only reasons that there are Bhamasuras roaming around

that the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any

avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows how

to handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

 

 

sohamsa , " Hariram Pansari " <hariraama

wrote:

>

> Dear Intellectuals:

>

> In the Lord Jagannaatha temple of PURI, ORISSA, India

> and at some other places, the Dasaavataar idols includes

Buddhaavataar.

>

> Many Boudhic rituals are also included in the Pooja-vidhis of Lord

Jagannath

> including

> Taantric and medication theories.

>

> Sanaatan Dharam's present swaroop seems vast

> and intellectuals having no ANTARA-DRISHTI can't see the original

Swaroop.

> (Like 7 blind-persons touches different parts of an elephant and

> express their outlook about the elephant,

> one touching the tail says it is like a rope,

> another touching Ears says it is like a Soopa...).

>

> The integrity of Sanaatan in Samashti needs greater insight to

understand.

> First open your insight (say Third eye)

> Try to be situated in your own soul consiciousness

> Try to get yourself (your soul) out of your body for a while

> This is the first step of opening insight....

>

> Sanaatan (Hindutwa) is very misunderstood by peoples having

limited Spi.

> power

>

> For example:

> The Great Banyan tree at Birala Garden at Howrah, Kolkata

> now has more than 700 roots and with new hanging roots

> it is ever-expanding and crossing the boundary of the garden

> which root was the original? it is impossible to find out

> the secondary roots became more thicker

> the original stem or root, it is said, it was uprooted due to a

storm

> in 1600 AD.

>

> Likewise the branches of Sanaatan Dharma now appearing more clearly

> where as the original seems disappeared/hidden.

>

> This is the need of time to keep hidden the secret and sacred

knowlede

> as lot of misusers (Like Bhasmaasura) are wandering to catch

>

> Hariram

>

> Posted by: " healing spaces " healingspaces

> <healingspaces?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buddhism%20and%20Dasha-Avataar%

20in%20our%20Vedic%20%28%20Hindu%20%29%20History%2E%2E>

> Hare Rama Krsna

> Dear Arpad,

> This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...

> Swati

> namah shivaya

>

> On 1/17/07, Arpad Joo <panchasila <panchasila%40>>

wrote:

> >

> > " There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever

> > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still

we say

> > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a

*conspiracy

> > > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)*

>

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Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Dear Swee Namaskar,

what you are refering to is part of the "Vajrayogini(Chinmasta) cycle

of teachings and practices. This VAST cycle encompasses the saddhana of the 64 yoginis,various ganachakra and vajrachakra saddhanas.Also the 11 stage Yogas of Vajrayogini. All these can be done only in strict retreat situation, because the energies generated must be handled with supreme care.

The Vajrayogini(Chinmasta cycle)is itself (Uttara Tantra)is part and parcel of an even more enormous (some 50 volumes) of Chakrasamvara cycle. This is of course a pure Kashmiri Shaivite Tantra, presently practiced fully and preserved in Tibetan circles.

Each school has their own particular teaching (or predilection) of the Chakrasamvara Teachings.I am familiar with only one (yellow)school.

I should't say too much about the Adepts of Vajrayogini: they are "sky goers."

The immortal words of the great Lahiri Mahasaya,the Guru of Sri Yukteshwar Paramahansa sums up the attainment:

 

"My worship is of a very strange kind.In this Ganga water is not required.No special utensils are necessary.Even flowers are redundant.In this puja all gods have disappeared.And emptiness has emerged with euphoria."Lahiri Mahashay

I trust that the above is somewhat useful.

With deep respect:

Arpadh

sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> > > Jaya Jagannatha> > > > Dear Arpad Joo,> > Namaste> > > > I understand perhaps wrongly that the Vajra (mandala) teachings of Buddha is> > inclined towards shakti. Would appreciate your feed back.> > > > love,> > > > Swee> > > > > >> >> >> > > >> > Hare Rama Krishna,> >> > > >> > Dear Akash,> >> > > >> > I would like to refer to your last line:> >> > > >> > "There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever> >>> > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we> > say> >>> > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy> >>> > > theory?" (italics and underline is mine)> >> > > >> > Well, I have heard that 9/11 is actually the work of the Israeli> >> > Intelligence,Osama Bin Laden is a closet Christian> > missionary,Saddam> >> > Hussein was't executed, but lives peacefully in California. Yes I> > have> >> > heard all that and many more conspiracy theories.> >> > > >> > But Buddhism a conspiracy theory? Really? Come now, come... The> > Puranas> >> > are engaged in "conspiracy"? Really?> >> > > >> > (I have't heard all this yet. But I have to admit that this is> > something> >> > new.)> >> > > >> > With deep respect:> >> > > >> > Arpadh Joo> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> ,> >> "nodinodu" <avbhat2005@> wrote:> >>> > >> >>> > > Om Namh Shivaya!> >>> > >> >>> > > Dear Gurujans and Friends,> >>> > >> >>> > > Is Buddhism and Budda actually an avataara of Vishnu?. There is> >>> > > quite some sceptisim around this?. Had some questions around this> >>> > > and would appreciate if you could clear this to me -> >>> > >> >>> > > 1) How can a Vishnu avataar preach a different religion> > altogether?> >>> > > other than Sanatana Dharma? where all the previous avataars has> > been> >>> > > inline to the Sanatana Dharma.> >>> > > 2) Buddism preaches that there is nothing called as Atma (> > Soul ).> >>> > > But Atma is central point of focus in our Sanatana Dharma?> >>> > > 3) Jagadguru ShankaraCharya infact was preaching the teachings> > and> >>> > > spreading the teachings of Sanatana Dharma to counter the> > effects of> >>> > > Jainism and Buddhisms?> >>> > > 4) How is Mercury Graha associated with Buddha and for what> > reasons?> >>> > > 5) Buddhism never talks about or mentions about the "Tridevs" or> >>> > > Tridevis" and centres around the philosophy of "Ahimsa".> >>> > >> >>> > > There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever> >>> > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we> > say> >>> > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a conspiracy> >>> > > theory?> >>> > >> >>> > > With Regards> >>> > > /-Akash..> >>> > >> >> >> > > > > >>

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Namo Jyotish gurus It seems that the debate is centered around a lack of information. Shakyamuni Buddha was asked many times to explain the creation, the gods, and many other things. He was silent. The Buddhist commentaries say that he was silent because these speculations have no direct bearing on suffering, its cause, and the path out of suffering. They also say that the ultimate truth is not limited to conceptual knowing-- it is not a philosophy or religion-- therefore any position will generally exclude its opposite. Although this view is non-theistic (note: not atheistic), it is not contradicting Advaita Vedanta, it simply says there is no thing having characteristics that are not concepts and words.. That's where the anatman doctrine is coming from. Anything that can be named

is incomplete and limited. This sort of dialectic is found in Hinduism also. It is possible that Buddha came to correct some excesses in the practices of his day in the same way that some say that Jesus came for the same reason in his country. The planet Buddha is an intellectual force. Buddhism is an intellectual religion, it is not a faith. There are similarities and differences. One person likes rice another likes macaroni. Similarly, one likes Narasimha another Skanda. If Buddha isn't your cup of tea, no problem. If he helps you, that's a good thing. Sincerely, Mark nodinodu <avbhat2005 wrote: Om Namh Shivaya!Dear Hariram,A very good educative response. But can you tell why is it that only in PURI temple the buddic rituals are followed and not other temples in india or other parts of the world. I cannot comment on this since I am not sure of this. If its Sanatana Dharma that Buddhism follows and preaches then its followings and proceedings has to be atleast found in other temples also in a buddhist way. Can you mention a few for the benefit of this group?Secondly if one needs "ANTARA-DRISHTI" to visualize and understand "Buddha" avataar's relation to Sanatana Dharma then why the same is not needed for other Dasa avaataars..If for the only

reasons that there are Bhamasuras roaming around that the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows how to handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.With Regards/-Akash..sohamsa , "Hariram Pansari" <hariraama wrote:>> Dear Intellectuals:> > In the Lord Jagannaatha temple of PURI, ORISSA, India> and at some other places, the Dasaavataar idols includes Buddhaavataar.> > Many Boudhic rituals are also included in the Pooja-vidhis of Lord Jagannath> including> Taantric and medication theories.> > Sanaatan Dharam's present swaroop seems vast> and intellectuals having no ANTARA-DRISHTI can't see the original Swaroop.> (Like 7 blind-persons touches different parts of an elephant

and> express their outlook about the elephant,> one touching the tail says it is like a rope,> another touching Ears says it is like a Soopa...).> > The integrity of Sanaatan in Samashti needs greater insight to understand.> First open your insight (say Third eye)> Try to be situated in your own soul consiciousness> Try to get yourself (your soul) out of your body for a while> This is the first step of opening insight....> > Sanaatan (Hindutwa) is very misunderstood by peoples having limited Spi.> power> > For example:> The Great Banyan tree at Birala Garden at Howrah, Kolkata> now has more than 700 roots and with new hanging roots> it is ever-expanding and crossing the boundary of the garden> which root was the original? it is impossible to find out> the secondary roots became more thicker> the original stem or root, it is

said, it was uprooted due to a storm> in 1600 AD.> > Likewise the branches of Sanaatan Dharma now appearing more clearly> where as the original seems disappeared/hidden.> > This is the need of time to keep hidden the secret and sacred knowlede> as lot of misusers (Like Bhasmaasura) are wandering to catch> > Hariram> > Posted by: "healing spaces" healingspaces <healingspaces?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buddhism%20and%20Dasha-Avataar%20in%20our%20Vedic%20%28%20Hindu%20%29%20History%2E%2E>> Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Arpad,> This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...> Swati> namah shivaya> > On 1/17/07, Arpad Joo <panchasila <panchasila%40>> wrote:> >> > "There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no

whatsoever> > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say> > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a *conspiracy> > > theory?" (italics and underline is mine)*>

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| om gurave namah |Dear All

 

I stand to correct Sri Hariram Pansari. In the Jagannath temple the avatar for Buddha is Sri Balaram and you can clearly see this in the dasavatar image on the temple enterance.

1.1.1 Paräsara Dasavatära

Mahäåñi Paräsara speaks of the dasavatära at the beginning of the work Båhat Paräsara Horä Çästra and dedicates a whole chapter titled avatärakathana adhyäyaù [Chapter 2] to the study of the incarnations (avatära) of Viñëu. Of the list of eleven avatära, Paräsara omits Balaräma as, strictly speaking, Balaräma is an incarnation of Väsuki, the divine serpent guardian of Viñëu.

Table 2: Paräsara dasavatära

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

Sun

 

Moon

 

Mars

 

Mercury

 

Jupiter

 

 

Avatära

 

Rämacandra

 

Kåñëa

 

Nåsiàha

 

Buddha

 

Vämana

 

 

Graha

 

Venus

 

Saturn

 

Rähu

 

Ketu

 

Lagna

 

 

Avatära

 

Paraçuräma

 

Kürma

 

Varäha

 

Matsya

 

Kalki

1.1.2 Jayadeva dasavatära stotra

Jayadeva was the court poet of King Lakshmanasena of Bengal and was not only adept at the Sanskrit language but also in poetry and prose, Gandharva Veda (music) and nåtya çästra (dance). His Géta Govinda in 12 canto, is an all time classic that has inspired themes for oòisi dance. In the very first chapter (añöa padi) he sings the glory of the dasavatära.

Of the eleven avatära mentioned in Para 1.2, Jayadeva excludes Kåñëa as he considers the remaining as avatära of Kåñëa. While this is fine from the bhakti viewpoint, it does not do justice to exclude Kåñëa from any list of avatära for the purpose of defining the highest potency of the graha as Kåñëa alone is the highest potency of the Moon and His babyhood days show the greatest potency of the Moon.

Table 3: Jayadeva dasavatära (Bengal)

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

Sun

 

Moon

 

Mars

 

Mercury

 

Jupiter

 

 

Avatära

 

Rämacandra

 

Buddha

 

Nåsiàha

 

Balaräma

 

Vämana

 

 

Graha

 

Venus

 

Saturn

 

Rähu

 

Ketu

 

Lagna

 

 

Avatära

 

Paraçuräma

 

Kürma

 

Varäha

 

Matsya

 

Kalki

 

 

 

 

Figure 2: Dasavatära (Depiction- Géta Govinda)

 

Çré Kåñëa at the center surrounded by twelve gopi-jana (six male and six female indicating the alternating male and female signs of the zodiac)

Jayadeva shows the way for the Bhakti path where once the Iñöa devatä has been chosen then the avatära rises to the top and goes beyond the list of eleven while the remaining ten avatära are used for worship of the graha and karma. This process has also been supported by Mahidhara in the classic Mantra Mahodadhiù wherein Mahidhara speaks of the avatära of Nåsiàha where Nåsiàha is the Iñöa devatä. Similarly, Tulasidas saw all of them as avatära of Ramachandra as Räma was his Iñöa devatä.

This process of evolution of the individual in the spiritual path of Bhakti should be understood to appreciate the lists of dasavatära of Paräsara and Jayadeva and the reasons for their difference. Paräsara list is the most primary or fundamental list in determining the Iñöa devatä while Jayadeva would show the next stage where the bhakti leads the individual to place the Iñöa devatä at a very high pedestal, above everybody and everything.

1.1.3 Jagannäth temple

At the entrance of the Jagannäth temple at Puri (the foremost of pilgrimages of the Hindu) as well as inside we find the dasavatära depicted. A copy of the painting on a wall of the temple is at Fig.2 and we find that from the dasavatära list of Paräsara, Buddha has been replaced by Balaräma.

 

 

 

 

 

Figure 3: Dasavatära Jagannäth temple

 

Table 4: Jagannäth temple dasavatära

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

Sun

 

Moon

 

Mars

 

Mercury

 

Jupiter

 

 

Avatära

 

Rämacandra

 

Kåñëa

 

Nåsiàha

 

Balaräma

 

Vämana

 

 

Graha

 

Venus

 

Saturn

 

Rähu

 

Ketu

 

Lagna

 

 

Avatära

 

Paraçuräma

 

Kürma

 

Varäha

 

Matsya

 

Kalki

Mercury has various attributes including learning ability and perfect non-violence (ahimsa) which are seen in Gautama Buddha and his teaching of ahimsa was so strong that he caused a whole generation of people to become vegetarians including taming and transforming the violent king ‘chanòa’ Ashoka to ‘dhamma’ Ashoka or stopping a mad elephant in its tracks and making it completely peaceful or converting a serial killer like Anguli-mala (who wore a garland of the fingers chopped off his victims) into a peaceful sage. Paräsara has aptly chosen Buddha as the Mercury avatära of Viñëu for Iñöa devatä reckoning.

 

 

 

 

 

Figure 4: Dasavatära Tirupati, Andhra Pradesh

 

However, Balaräma transformed the agricultural economy by designing the plough and using draught animals in fields. He is depicted with the plough and the exaltation of Mercury is in Virgo, the granary of the world. The Brahmins of the Jagannäth temple are also justified in depicting Balaräma as the Mercury avatära of Viñëu.

The reason for omitting Buddha is that Buddha caused the people to go away from the Vedas and cannot be depicted as a Dharma avatära. Even though in doing so, Buddha actually got the people closer to the essence of the Vedas by teaching them the value of non-violent sacrifice.

Thus the list of dasavatära in the Jagannäth temple is for the dharma devatä and not for the Iñöa devatä. This list of dasavatära is also supported by the Venkateswara Balaji temple at Tirupati (another important Vaiñnava shrine, see fig.3).

Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages ◠Rath’s Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ◠SJCERC ◠JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest ◠Sagittarius Publications----

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of mark gillmoreFriday, January 19, 2007 12:59 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buddhism and Dasha-Avataar in our Vedic ( Hindu ) History..

 

 

 

Namo Jyotish gurus

 

It seems that the debate is centered around a lack of information.

Shakyamuni Buddha was asked many times to explain the creation,

the gods, and many other things. He was silent. The Buddhist commentaries

say that he was silent because these speculations have no direct bearing

on suffering, its cause, and the path out of suffering. They also say that

the ultimate truth is not limited to conceptual knowing-- it is not a philosophy

or religion-- therefore any position will generally exclude its opposite.

 

Although this view is non-theistic (note: not atheistic), it is not contradicting

Advaita Vedanta, it simply says there is no thing having characteristics that

are not concepts and words.. That's where the anatman doctrine is coming from.

Anything that can be named is incomplete and limited. This sort of dialectic

is found in Hinduism also. It is possible that Buddha came to correct some

excesses in the practices of his day in the same way that some say that

Jesus came for the same reason in his country.

 

The planet Buddha is an intellectual force. Buddhism is an intellectual religion,

it is not a faith. There are similarities and differences. One person likes

rice another likes macaroni. Similarly, one likes Narasimha another Skanda.

If Buddha isn't your cup of tea, no problem. If he helps you, that's a good thing.

 

Sincerely,

Mark

nodinodu <avbhat2005 > wrote:

 

 

Om Namh Shivaya!Dear Hariram,A very good educative response. But can you tell why is it that only in PURI temple the buddic rituals are followed and not other temples in india or other parts of the world. I cannot comment on this since I am not sure of this. If its Sanatana Dharma that Buddhism follows and preaches then its followings and proceedings has to be atleast found in other temples also in a buddhist way. Can you mention a few for the benefit of this group?Secondly if one needs "ANTARA-DRISHTI" to visualize and understand "Buddha" avataar's relation to Sanatana Dharma then why the same is not needed for other Dasa avaataars..If for the only reasons that there are Bhamasuras roaming around that the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows how to handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.With Regards/-Akash..sohamsa , "Hariram Pansari" <hariraama wrote:>> Dear Intellectuals:> > In the Lord Jagannaatha temple of PURI, ORISSA, India> and at some other places, the Dasaavataar idols includes Buddhaavataar.> > Many Boudhic rituals are also included in the Pooja-vidhis of Lord Jagannath> including> Taantric and medication theories.> > Sanaatan Dharam's present swaroop seems vast> and intellectuals having no ANTARA-DRISHTI can't see the original Swaroop.> (Like 7 blind-persons touches different parts of an elephant and> express their outlook about the elephant,> one touching the tail says it is like a rope,> another touching Ears says it is like a Soopa...).> > The integrity of Sanaatan in Samashti needs greater insight to understand.> First open your insight (say Third eye)> Try to be situated in your own soul consiciousness> Try to get yourself (your soul) out of your body for a while> This is the first step of opening insight....> > Sanaatan (Hindutwa) is very misunderstood by peoples having limited Spi.> power> > For example:> The Great Banyan tree at Birala Garden at Howrah, Kolkata> now has more than 700 roots and with new hanging roots> it is ever-expanding and crossing the boundary of the garden> which root was the original? it is impossible to find out> the secondary roots became more thicker> the original stem or root, it is said, it was uprooted due to a storm> in 1600 AD.> > Likewise the branches of Sanaatan Dharma now appearing more clearly> where as the original seems disappeared/hidden.> > This is the need of time to keep hidden the secret and sacred knowlede> as lot of misusers (Like Bhasmaasura) are wandering to catch> > Hariram> > Posted by: "healing spaces" healingspaces <healingspaces?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buddhism%20and%20Dasha-Avataar%20in%20our%20Vedic%20%28%20Hindu%20%29%20History%2E%2E>> Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Arpad,> This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...> Swati> namah shivaya> > On 1/17/07, Arpad Joo <panchasila <panchasila%40>> wrote:> >> > "There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no whatsoever> > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still we say> > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a *conspiracy> > > theory?" (italics and underline is mine)*>

 

 

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Dear List,

 

What is the reason that Sri Sanjay's post regarding the above subject

is illegible for the most part? I have seen this before and as far as I

know, I have proper fonts installed on my computer, but often I cannot

read Sri Sanjay's posts. Can anyone suggest as solution? I feel that

there is much important information I am missing by not being able to

read Sanjay's posts.

 

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Friday, January 19, 2007 10:45 AM

Re: Buddhism and Dasha-Avataar in our Vedic ( Hindu ) History..

 

 

om visnave namahom namo narayanayaom namo bhagavate vasudevayaDear List,What is the reason that Sri Sanjay's post regarding the above subject is illegible for the most part? I have seen this before and as far as I know, I have proper fonts installed on my computer, but often I cannot read Sri Sanjay's posts. Can anyone suggest as solution? I feel that there is much important information I am missing by not being able to read Sanjay's posts.Raja Perry

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Om Namh Shivaya!

 

In nut-shell I like to say:

The debate on God and Godly knowledge is unlimited, never ending, uncountable Santa-Mahatma done lot of research...

 

God himself in Srimad Bhagavat Geetaa shown his VIRAATA ROOPA... (as you every intellecuals know better) and laid light on himself... ( I need not mention more...), Pl. refer....

 

I think no Boudh, Chirstian, Islam.... all other are out of it's range...

 

I mean : every religion, thought, path is being ever-diverted.. being in more branches.. it becames colligation of facts, and intermixture of effects, AS PER THE NEED OF TIME,

 

finding out the originality is very difficult...

 

In my view : omnipresence = is a 'Aabhaash', (may i say, artificial reality)

 

Hari

 

Posted by: " nodinodu "

avbhat2005 nodinodu

Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:38 am (PST)

A very good educative response..........the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows how to handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Getting angry and forcing your opinion does not necessarily be the

truth always.

 

Anyways I will await for the answers from the gurujans and other

learned folks of this group.

 

My understanding and belief is that Buddha is an enlightened person

just like Jesus or for the case of Sri Jagadguru Shankaracharya ji.

 

But terming Buddha as one of the " main " dasa avataars and

associating the mercury ( budha) graha as a representation of Buddha

avataar is not digestable or easier said as " contentious "

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

 

sohamsa , Hariram <hariraama wrote:

>

> Om Namh Shivaya!

>

> In nut-shell I like to say:

> The debate on God and Godly knowledge is unlimited, never ending,

> uncountable Santa-Mahatma done lot of research...

>

> God himself in Srimad Bhagavat Geetaa shown his VIRAATA ROOPA...

(as you

> every intellecuals know better) and laid light on himself... ( I

need not

> mention more...), Pl. refer....

>

> I think no Boudh, Chirstian, Islam.... all other are out of it's

range...

>

> I mean : every religion, thought, path is being ever-diverted..

being in

> more branches.. it becames colligation of facts, and intermixture

of

> effects, AS PER THE NEED OF TIME,

>

> finding out the originality is very difficult...

>

> In my view : omnipresence = is a 'Aabhaash', (may i say,

artificial reality)

>

> Hari

> Posted by: " nodinodu " avbhat2005

> <avbhat2005?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buddhism%20and%20Dasha-Avataar%

20in%20our%20Vedic%20%28%20Hindu%20%29%20History%2E%2E>

> nodinodu <http://profiles./nodinodu> Thu Jan 18, 2007

7:38 am (PST)

> A very good educative response.....

>

> .....the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any

> avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows

how to

> handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.

>

[Guest guest]

Om Namh Shivaya!

 

Dear Guruji Rathiji, Namaskar,

 

Buddha ( Not Gautama Buddha) is lord of Mercury and his avataars in

the form of Balarama, Lakshamana that you quoted in your books makes

sense and is also correct is what I feel.

 

But what are your thoughts on Buddha being associated with Gautama

Buddha?. Are there any remedies, mantras that are associated with

and propriated on Gautama Buddha for pacifying a malefic mercury or

thereofs?.

 

Pls guide me on this.

 

With Regards

/-Akash..

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote:

>

> | om gurave namah |

> Dear All

>

> I stand to correct Sri Hariram Pansari. In the Jagannath temple

the avatar for Buddha is Sri Balaram and you can clearly see this in

the dasavatar image on the temple enterance.

>

>

> 1.1.1 Paräsara Dasavatära

>

>

> Mahäåñi Paräsara speaks of the dasavatära at the beginning of

the work Båhat Paräsara Horä Çästra and dedicates a whole

chapter titled avatärakathana adhyäyaù [Chapter 2] to the study

of the incarnations (avatära) of Viñëu. Of the list of eleven

avatära, Paräsara omits Balaräma as, strictly speaking, Balaräma

is an incarnation of Väsuki, the divine serpent guardian of Viñëu.

>

> Table 2: Paräsara dasavatära

>

>

>

> Graha

>

> Sun

>

> Moon

>

> Mars

>

> Mercury

>

> Jupiter

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Rämacandra

>

> Kåñëa

>

> Nåsiàha

>

> Buddha

>

> Vämana

>

>

> Graha

>

> Venus

>

> Saturn

>

> Rähu

>

> Ketu

>

> Lagna

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Paraçuräma

>

> Kürma

>

> Varäha

>

> Matsya

>

> Kalki

>

>

> 1.1.2 Jayadeva dasavatära stotra

>

>

> Jayadeva was the court poet of King Lakshmanasena of Bengal and

was not only adept at the Sanskrit language but also in poetry and

prose, Gandharva Veda (music) and nåtya çästra (dance). His Géta

Govinda in 12 canto, is an all time classic that has inspired themes

for oòisi dance. In the very first chapter (añöa padi) he sings

the glory of the dasavatära.

>

> Of the eleven avatära mentioned in Para 1.2, Jayadeva excludes

Kåñëa as he considers the remaining as avatära of Kåñëa.

While this is fine from the bhakti viewpoint, it does not do justice

to exclude Kåñëa from any list of avatära for the purpose of

defining the highest potency of the graha as Kåñëa alone is the

highest potency of the Moon and His babyhood days show the greatest

potency of the Moon.

>

> Table 3: Jayadeva dasavatära (Bengal)

>

>

>

> Graha

>

> Sun

>

> Moon

>

> Mars

>

> Mercury

>

> Jupiter

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Rämacandra

>

> Buddha

>

> Nåsiàha

>

> Balaräma

>

> Vämana

>

>

> Graha

>

> Venus

>

> Saturn

>

> Rähu

>

> Ketu

>

> Lagna

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Paraçuräma

>

> Kürma

>

> Varäha

>

> Matsya

>

> Kalki

>

>

> Figure 2: Dasavatära (Depiction- Géta Govinda)

>

>

>

> Çré Kåñëa at the center surrounded by twelve gopi-jana (six

male and six female indicating the alternating male and female signs

of the zodiac)

>

> Jayadeva shows the way for the Bhakti path where once the Iñöa

devatä has been chosen then the avatära rises to the top and goes

beyond the list of eleven while the remaining ten avatära are used

for worship of the graha and karma. This process has also been

supported by Mahidhara in the classic Mantra Mahodadhiù wherein

Mahidhara speaks of the avatära of Nåsiàha where Nåsiàha is the

Iñöa devatä. Similarly, Tulasidas saw all of them as avatära of

Ramachandra as Räma was his Iñöa devatä.

>

> This process of evolution of the individual in the spiritual path

of Bhakti should be understood to appreciate the lists of

dasavatära of Paräsara and Jayadeva and the reasons for their

difference. Paräsara list is the most primary or fundamental list

in determining the Iñöa devatä while Jayadeva would show the next

stage where the bhakti leads the individual to place the Iñöa

devatä at a very high pedestal, above everybody and everything.

>

>

> 1.1.3 Jagannäth temple

>

>

> At the entrance of the Jagannäth temple at Puri (the foremost of

pilgrimages of the Hindu) as well as inside we find the dasavatära

depicted. A copy of the painting on a wall of the temple is at Fig.2

and we find that from the dasavatära list of Paräsara, Buddha has

been replaced by Balaräma.

>

>

>

> Figure 3: Dasavatära Jagannäth temple

>

>

>

> Table 4: Jagannäth temple dasavatära

>

>

>

> Graha

>

> Sun

>

> Moon

>

> Mars

>

> Mercury

>

> Jupiter

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Rämacandra

>

> Kåñëa

>

> Nåsiàha

>

> Balaräma

>

> Vämana

>

>

> Graha

>

> Venus

>

> Saturn

>

> Rähu

>

> Ketu

>

> Lagna

>

>

> Avatära

>

> Paraçuräma

>

> Kürma

>

> Varäha

>

> Matsya

>

> Kalki

>

> Mercury has various attributes including learning ability and

perfect non-violence (ahimsa) which are seen in Gautama Buddha and

his teaching of ahimsa was so strong that he caused a whole

generation of people to become vegetarians including taming and

transforming the violent king ‘chanòa’ Ashoka to ‘dhamma’

Ashoka or stopping a mad elephant in its tracks and making it

completely peaceful or converting a serial killer like Anguli-mala

(who wore a garland of the fingers chopped off his victims) into a

peaceful sage. Paräsara has aptly chosen Buddha as the Mercury

avatära of Viñëu for Iñöa devatä reckoning.

>

>

>

> Figure 4: Dasavatära Tirupati, Andhra Pradesh

>

>

>

> However, Balaräma transformed the agricultural economy by

designing the plough and using draught animals in fields. He is

depicted with the plough and the exaltation of Mercury is in Virgo,

the granary of the world. The Brahmins of the Jagannäth temple are

also justified in depicting Balaräma as the Mercury avatära of

Viñëu.

>

> The reason for omitting Buddha is that Buddha caused the people to

go away from the Vedas and cannot be depicted as a Dharma avatära.

Even though in doing so, Buddha actually got the people closer to

the essence of the Vedas by teaching them the value of non-violent

sacrifice.

>

> Thus the list of dasavatära in the Jagannäth temple is for the

dharma devatä and not for the Iñöa devatä. This list of

dasavatära is also supported by the Venkateswara Balaji temple at

Tirupati (another important Vaiñnava shrine, see fig.3).

>

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages â—

<http://srath.com/blog/> Rath’s Rhapsody

> SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center â—

<http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC â— <http://jiva.us/> JIVA

> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest â—

<http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications

> -

---

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of mark gillmore

> Friday, January 19, 2007 12:59 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Buddhism and Dasha-Avataar in our Vedic

( Hindu ) History..

>

>

>

>

>

> Namo Jyotish gurus

>

> It seems that the debate is centered around a lack of information.

> Shakyamuni Buddha was asked many times to explain the creation,

> the gods, and many other things. He was silent. The Buddhist

commentaries

> say that he was silent because these speculations have no direct

bearing

> on suffering, its cause, and the path out of suffering. They also

say that

> the ultimate truth is not limited to conceptual knowing-- it is

not a philosophy

> or religion-- therefore any position will generally exclude its

opposite.

>

> Although this view is non-theistic (note: not atheistic), it is

not contradicting

> Advaita Vedanta, it simply says there is no thing having

characteristics that

> are not concepts and words.. That's where the anatman doctrine is

coming from.

> Anything that can be named is incomplete and limited. This sort of

dialectic

> is found in Hinduism also. It is possible that Buddha came to

correct some

> excesses in the practices of his day in the same way that some say

that

> Jesus came for the same reason in his country.

>

> The planet Buddha is an intellectual force. Buddhism is an

intellectual religion,

> it is not a faith. There are similarities and differences. One

person likes

> rice another likes macaroni. Similarly, one likes Narasimha

another Skanda.

> If Buddha isn't your cup of tea, no problem. If he helps you,

that's a good thing.

>

> Sincerely,

> Mark

>

>

> nodinodu <avbhat2005 wrote:

>

> Om Namh Shivaya!

>

> Dear Hariram,

>

> A very good educative response. But can you tell why is it that

only

> in PURI temple the buddic rituals are followed and not other

temples

> in india or other parts of the world. I cannot comment on this

since

> I am not sure of this. If its Sanatana Dharma that Buddhism

follows

> and preaches then its followings and proceedings has to be atleast

> found in other temples also in a buddhist way. Can you mention a

few

> for the benefit of this group?

>

> Secondly if one needs " ANTARA-DRISHTI " to visualize and

> understand " Buddha " avataar's relation to Sanatana Dharma then why

> the same is not needed for other Dasa avaataars..

>

> If for the only reasons that there are Bhamasuras roaming around

> that the knowledge is not shared then there is no need for any

> avataar to be taken from the omnipresent. The omnipresent knows

how

> to handle and have handled Bhamasuras before.

>

> With Regards

> /-Akash..

>

> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, " Hariram Pansari " <hariraama@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Intellectuals:

> >

> > In the Lord Jagannaatha temple of PURI, ORISSA, India

> > and at some other places, the Dasaavataar idols includes

> Buddhaavataar.

> >

> > Many Boudhic rituals are also included in the Pooja-vidhis of

Lord

> Jagannath

> > including

> > Taantric and medication theories.

> >

> > Sanaatan Dharam's present swaroop seems vast

> > and intellectuals having no ANTARA-DRISHTI can't see the

original

> Swaroop.

> > (Like 7 blind-persons touches different parts of an elephant and

> > express their outlook about the elephant,

> > one touching the tail says it is like a rope,

> > another touching Ears says it is like a Soopa...).

> >

> > The integrity of Sanaatan in Samashti needs greater insight to

> understand.

> > First open your insight (say Third eye)

> > Try to be situated in your own soul consiciousness

> > Try to get yourself (your soul) out of your body for a while

> > This is the first step of opening insight....

> >

> > Sanaatan (Hindutwa) is very misunderstood by peoples having

> limited Spi.

> > power

> >

> > For example:

> > The Great Banyan tree at Birala Garden at Howrah, Kolkata

> > now has more than 700 roots and with new hanging roots

> > it is ever-expanding and crossing the boundary of the garden

> > which root was the original? it is impossible to find out

> > the secondary roots became more thicker

> > the original stem or root, it is said, it was uprooted due to a

> storm

> > in 1600 AD.

> >

> > Likewise the branches of Sanaatan Dharma now appearing more

clearly

> > where as the original seems disappeared/hidden.

> >

> > This is the need of time to keep hidden the secret and sacred

> knowlede

> > as lot of misusers (Like Bhasmaasura) are wandering to catch

> >

> > Hariram

> >

> > Posted by: " healing spaces " healingspaces@

> > <healingspaces@?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buddhism%20and%20Dasha-Avataar%

> 20in%20our%20Vedic%20%28%20Hindu%20%29%20History%2E%2E>

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Arpad,

> > This was Hilarious ..ur mail was enlightening...

> > Swati

> > namah shivaya

> >

> > On 1/17/07, Arpad Joo <panchasila@ <panchasila%40>>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > " There are some more quotes from Buddhism which has no

whatsoever

> > > > relation with Sanatana Dharma. Why is it that way? and still

> we say

> > > > its one of the Dasha avataar? Is this some sort of a

> *conspiracy

> > > > theory? " (italics and underline is mine)*

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