Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Members, A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and determine the sex of the newly born child. Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several minutes is made. Best wishes, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Om Namh Shivaya! Dear Anurag, As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because of Sun being in Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the father's chart. With Regards /-Akash.. sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > Dear Members, > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several minutes is > made. > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hello Anurag Ji Since the Saptamsa Lagna of the father is in Sg, which is an Odd rasi so we will count 5 zodaically. That takes us to Ar lorded by ma. Ma is in Leo. Since Leo is an Odd rasi and it is not Ge or Aq therefore it should be a boy. There are no other planets with Ma. Regards Tarun sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > Dear Members, > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several minutes is > made. > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| Dear Akash, Thank you for your response. I will reveal in due course as to what the sex of the child actually is, once others have had a chance to investigate. By way of further information, I was told that the child was expected on February 2, and was born on the night of January 18. I do not have the rest of the birth data. There was a little bit of trouble with the birth but now mother and child seem to be fine. I was worried about the lord being in the 10th in the chart of the wife, when I was initially given the charts, about a couple of months back. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005 wrote: > > Om Namh Shivaya! > > Dear Anurag, > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because of Sun being in > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the father's chart. > > With Regards > /-Akash.. > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several minutes > is > > made. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 |Hare Rama Krsna| As per my understanding the first child should be a male child. From the man's horoscope Lord of 5th is Mars - a male planet and is in Leo - a male sign. From the lady's horoscope the first child is denoted by 9th - lord of 9th is Mars - a male planet and is in Aries - a male sign so the child should be a male. Regards, Ram sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > Dear Members, > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several minutes is > made. > > Best wishes, > > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Anurag Both husband and wife's chart point to Girl child only.I would like to know about the problem faced by couple. Thanks Angel --- nodinodu <avbhat2005 wrote: > Om Namh Shivaya! > > Dear Anurag, > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because > of Sun being in > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the > father's chart. > > With Regards > /-Akash.. > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > Dear Members, > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. > There have been no > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome > to try and > > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, > India. > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of > several minutes > is > > made. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Angel Ji, Namaskar. The problem manifested as a faint heart beat in the child. The child is also slightly small. But both mother and child are stable now. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , angel <angelgoel wrote: > > Hi Anurag > > Both husband and wife's chart point to Girl child > only.I would like to know about the problem faced by > couple. > > Thanks > Angel > > --- nodinodu <avbhat2005 wrote: > > > Om Namh Shivaya! > > > > Dear Anurag, > > > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because > > of Sun being in > > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the > > father's chart. > > > > With Regards > > /-Akash.. > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. > > There have been no > > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome > > to try and > > > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, > > India. > > > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of > > several minutes > > is > > > made. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > http://in.answers./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Om Namh Shivaya! Dear Anurag, From the mother's saptamsa chart I can see that the mother as well as the first child's health during birth is at risk. Taking the first child's lagna as Taurus, the lord Venus is debiliated in Virgo. But there is a parivartana between mercury and venus due to which there is a serious death like experience during birth. The saving grace is due to the presence of Jupiter along with mercury. Also for the mother, the combination of Sun and Rahu in leo seemed to be the cause of the problem. Was there an issue of high BP or blood pressure related problem for the mother? With Regards /-Akash.. sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > Dear Akash, > > Thank you for your response. I will reveal in due course as to what > the sex of the child actually is, once others have had a chance to > investigate. By way of further information, I was told that the child > was expected on February 2, and was born on the night of January 18. > I do not have the rest of the birth data. > > There was a little bit of trouble with the birth but now mother and > child seem to be fine. I was worried about the lord being in the 10th > in the chart of the wife, when I was initially given the charts, > about a couple of months back. > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > sohamsa , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005@> wrote: > > > > Om Namh Shivaya! > > > > Dear Anurag, > > > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because of Sun being in > > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the father's chart. > > > > With Regards > > /-Akash.. > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been no > > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > > > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several > minutes > > is > > > made. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Akash, Namaskar. I was also apprehensive about this, considering the Rashi 5th Lord in the male chart in the 6th with Neecha Budh along with other factors. In the chart of the mother, the Lord of the child placed in the 10th was also worrisome. In any case, the problem was a faint heart beat for the child but both the mother and the child are thankfully fine at the moment. I think the presence of Guru in Kumbha Rashi in the Rashi Chakra is a very important positive. Perhaps she has bowed to the trident holder. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , " bhataash " <bhat_ashok wrote: > > Om Namh Shivaya! > > Dear Anurag, > > From the mother's saptamsa chart I can see that the mother as well > as the first child's health during birth is at risk. > > Taking the first child's lagna as Taurus, the lord Venus is > debiliated in Virgo. But there is a parivartana between mercury and > venus due to which there is a serious death like experience during > birth. The saving grace is due to the presence of Jupiter along with > mercury. > > Also for the mother, the combination of Sun and Rahu in leo seemed > to be the cause of the problem. Was there an issue of high BP or > blood pressure related problem for the mother? > > With Regards > /-Akash.. > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > > > Dear Akash, > > > > Thank you for your response. I will reveal in due course as to > what > > the sex of the child actually is, once others have had a chance to > > investigate. By way of further information, I was told that the > child > > was expected on February 2, and was born on the night of January > 18. > > I do not have the rest of the birth data. > > > > There was a little bit of trouble with the birth but now mother > and > > child seem to be fine. I was worried about the lord being in the > 10th > > in the chart of the wife, when I was initially given the charts, > > about a couple of months back. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > sohamsa , " nodinodu " <avbhat2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Namh Shivaya! > > > > > > Dear Anurag, > > > > > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a " girl " child because of Sun being > in > > > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the father's chart. > > > > > > With Regards > > > /-Akash.. > > > > > > sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " > > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| > > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah| > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been > no > > > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > > > > determine the sex of the newly born child. > > > > > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > > > > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several > > minutes > > > is > > > > made. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma > > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Anurag, Husband's chart: D7, Sagg lagan, hence 5H lord is seen, which is Mars posited in Leo. It is neither exalted/debilitated nor in conjunction. Hence Rasi sign is seen, which is odd(and not Aqu/Gem), both signify Male sex. Wife's chart D7 lagan is Leo, hence 5H lord is seen, Ju is conjunct with Me. Me is in parivartan with Ve, hence will give results of Ve in Virgo, both signify Female. Both seem different, so perhaps some finer points are to be seen ,which I am unable to determine. I wonder if Me itself indicates a variable/inderminate sex!! Sharat - Anurag Sharma sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 5:53 PM Re: Saptamsha Quiz |Om Namo Narasimhaaya||Om Lakshmyai Namah|Dear Akash,Namaskar.I was also apprehensive about this, considering the Rashi 5th Lord in the male chart in the 6th with Neecha Budh along with other factors. In the chart of the mother, the Lord of the child placed in the 10th was also worrisome.In any case, the problem was a faint heart beat for the child but both the mother and the child are thankfully fine at the moment. I think the presence of Guru in Kumbha Rashi in the Rashi Chakra is a very important positive. Perhaps she has bowed to the trident holder.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.comsohamsa , "bhataash" <bhat_ashok wrote:>> Om Namh Shivaya!> > Dear Anurag,> > From the mother's saptamsa chart I can see that the mother as well > as the first child's health during birth is at risk.> > Taking the first child's lagna as Taurus, the lord Venus is > debiliated in Virgo. But there is a parivartana between mercury and > venus due to which there is a serious death like experience during > birth. The saving grace is due to the presence of Jupiter along with > mercury.> > Also for the mother, the combination of Sun and Rahu in leo seemed > to be the cause of the problem. Was there an issue of high BP or > blood pressure related problem for the mother?> > With Regards> /-Akash..> > sohamsa , "Anurag Sharma" > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote:> >> > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya|> > > > Dear Akash,> > > > Thank you for your response. I will reveal in due course as to > what > > the sex of the child actually is, once others have had a chance to > > investigate. By way of further information, I was told that the > child > > was expected on February 2, and was born on the night of January > 18. > > I do not have the rest of the birth data.> > > > There was a little bit of trouble with the birth but now mother > and > > child seem to be fine. I was worried about the lord being in the > 10th > > in the chart of the wife, when I was initially given the charts, > > about a couple of months back.> > > > Regards,> > > > Anurag Sharma> > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > sohamsa , "nodinodu" <avbhat2005@> wrote:> > >> > > Om Namh Shivaya!> > > > > > Dear Anurag,> > > > > > As per the Saptamsha, I see a "girl" child because of Sun being > in > > > Scorpio as the first lord of the child from the father's chart.> > > > > > With Regards> > > /-Akash..> > > > > > sohamsa , "Anurag Sharma" > > > <anuraagsharma27@> wrote:> > > >> > > > |Om Namo Narasimhaaya|> > > > |Om Lakshmyai Namah|> > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > A couple have recently had their first child. There have been > no > > > > pregnancies before. Interested members are welcome to try and > > > > determine the sex of the newly born child.> > > > > > > > Data: Husband: October 24, 1972; 6:41 PM; Kolkata, India. > > > > > > > > Wife: November 30, 1974; 1:20 PM; Delhi. > > > > > > > > Both Saptamshas change only after a time change of several > > minutes > > > is > > > > made.> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Dear Anurag, Wife : D-7: is in odd rasi leo lagna, fifth lord jupiter is with mercury in 10 house. birth of daughter is indicated with difficulty as 10th house is marak house of children for female. Husband : D-7 : is in odd rasi, Dhanu lagna with ketu in it. fifth lord mars is in 9th house in leo rasi. Here again daughter is indicated (male but reverse due to ketu in lagna). This is what i have understand by looking at D-7 alone. Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Dear Anurag, Here i think i have done a mistake. Husband : mars and surya parivartana is also there, surya is in even rashi i.e. mars act as in even rashi shows female now reverse as ketu in lagna so final result is male. wife:here budh and sukra is in parivartana, here sukra is in kanya ie budh act as in kanya exalted indicate male so final result is male. Indeed a very difficult chart. Here concept of parivartana should be understood very clearly. Best Wishes Vijay Goel - Vijay Goel sohamsa Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:57 PM Re: Saptamsha Quiz Dear Anurag, Wife : D-7: is in odd rasi leo lagna, fifth lord jupiter is with mercury in 10 house. birth of daughter is indicated with difficulty as 10th house is marak house of children for female. Husband : D-7 : is in odd rasi, Dhanu lagna with ketu in it. fifth lord mars is in 9th house in leo rasi. Here again daughter is indicated (male but reverse due to ketu in lagna). This is what i have understand by looking at D-7 alone. Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Vijay, Namaskar No, you are completely wrong about the reasoning for the male chart. Ketu in lagna will not reverse the sexes and the parivartana between Sun and Mars is not going to work with the first child, as Sun is not in the house of the pregnancy (aries). The correct reasoning was given by Samir. Here Mars is lord of the fifth house and is placed in Leo. The straight answer is male child. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Vijay Goel wrote: Dear Anurag, Here i think i have done a mistake. Husband : mars and surya parivartana is also there, surya is in even rashi i.e. mars act as in even rashi shows female now reverse as ketu in lagna so final result is male. wife:here budh and sukra is in parivartana, here sukra is in kanya ie budh act as in kanya exalted indicate male so final result is male. Indeed a very difficult chart. Here concept of parivartana should be understood very clearly. Best Wishes Vijay Goel ----- Original Message ----- Vijay Goel sohamsa Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:57 PM Re: Saptamsha Quiz Dear Anurag, Wife : D-7: is in odd rasi leo lagna, fifth lord jupiter is with mercury in 10 house. birth of daughter is indicated with difficulty as 10th house is marak house of children for female. Husband : D-7 : is in odd rasi, Dhanu lagna with ketu in it. fifth lord mars is in 9th house in leo rasi. Here again daughter is indicated (male but reverse due to ketu in lagna). This is what i have understand by looking at D-7 alone. Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 |om| Dear Anurag, Well that was an interesting quiz you posted and I am inclined to agree with Visti's observation. Let me pose another chart for you all: Male: 16 March 1966, 08.10 am at Salem, TN, India +5H30 The above native has two children. From the saptamsa, can you deduce the sex of the children? Time is as per hospital discharge letter. best regards Hari On 1/21/07, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Vijay, NamaskarNo, you are completely wrong about the reasoning for the male chart. Ketu in lagna will not reverse the sexes and the parivartana between Sun and Mars is not going to work with the first child, as Sun is not in the house of the pregnancy (aries). The correct reasoning was given by Samir. Here Mars is lord of the fifth house and is placed in Leo. The straight answer is male child. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: vistiFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dear Anurag, As per method explained in COVA examples, i have applied to this chart. My point is totally different from what samir has said. 1) Ketu in lagna will only reverse the final result not rahu. 2) fifth lord itself will not indicate the child but rashi position or yuti will show the result. (explained many time by Vistiji in the forum). Thanks for providing this ming boggling charts which refreshes our methology. Regards Best Wishes Vijay Goel - Om Namo Narasimhaaya||Om Lakshmyai Namah|Dear Akash,No, I have not really misread it. Iam referring solely to the excellent analysis by Samir Shah which displays many techniques used to judge the Saptamsha Chakra. In the male chart, Mars as the lord indicates a son. The exchange with Sun should make it a daughter, both because exchange 'reverses' and also because Surya is in an even Rashi. However, this is not so. Why? Samir has given the answer.According to him, the fact that Surya is in Vrishchika makes the exchange redundant and causes no change in the sex of the child. Thus he says the child should be male. And he is absolutely right. Though the male chart is the indicator for the sex of the child, Samir has pointed out the placement of Rahu in the Saptamsha Lagna in the chart of the wife. Thus, the Parivartana of Budh with Neecha Shukra indicating the girl child is now changes to boy. Correct again.Interested members can read Samir's analysis at the Srijagganath Group.Regards,Anurag Sharma - Dear Anurag,Here i think i have done a mistake.Husband : mars and surya parivartana is also there, surya is in even rashi i.e. mars act as in even rashi shows female now reverse as ketu in lagna so final result is male.wife:here budh and sukra is in parivartana, here sukra is in kanya ie budh act as in kanya exalted indicate male so final result is male. Indeed a very difficult chart.Here concept of parivartana should be understood very clearly.Best WishesVijay Goel- Vijay Goel sohamsa Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:57 PMRe: Saptamsha QuizDear Anurag,Wife : D-7: is in odd rasi leo lagna, fifth lord jupiter is with mercury in 10 house. birth of daughter is indicated with difficulty as 10th house is marak house of children for female.Husband : D-7 : is in odd rasi, Dhanu lagna with ketu in it. fifth lord mars is in 9th house in leo rasi. Here again daughter is indicated (male but reverse due to ketu in lagna).This is what i have understand by looking at D-7 alone.Best Wishes,Vijay Goel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Vijay, Namaskar 1. Here is what I was taught by Vistiji - and what I have found to work very well: - Ketu in lagna reverses the DIRECTION in which we count for children , but has nothing to do with sex. - Rahu joined LAGNESHA in saptamsa will reverse the sex of each child as determined by the normal analysis. 2. Yes, of course the lord of a pregnancy itself will not show the sex. That is why I said that the Sun being in Vrischika (female sign) would normally give a girl. But this was then modified by the rules I have mentioned above. There were many different factors at play, and each one had to be applied systematically to arrive at the correct answer. Best wishes, Samir sohamsa , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Anurag, > > As per method explained in COVA examples, i have applied to this chart. > > My point is totally different from what samir has said. > > 1) Ketu in lagna will only reverse the final result not rahu. > 2) fifth lord itself will not indicate the child but rashi position or yuti will show the result. (explained many time by Vistiji in the forum). > > Thanks for providing this ming boggling charts which refreshes our methology. > > Regards > Best Wishes > Vijay Goel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 |Om Namo Narasimhaaya| |Om Lakshmyai Namah| Dear Hari, Namaskar. JHora gies more than one option for Salem, but checking the Atlas, the following coordinates were used for the chart:78E10, 11N 39. In the Rashi Chakra and Saptamsha, the Lagna rising is Mesha. Just from the male chart posted, the 5th Lord of the Rashi is placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana in the 12th House from Lagna, indicating some adversity for children. This is also the 9th from Upapada. The child indicated by the Sun may not survive or may have ill health as Surya is in Marana Karaka Sthana. Further, the Naisargika Karaka Guru is afflicted in Guru Chandala Yoga showing problems in happiness from children. The 5th Lord from Karaka is debilitated, though retrograde and involved in a curse in a Dusthana. Anyhow, let us proceed to the Saptamsha. Mesha rising leads to direct counting and 5th Lord Surya indicates the first child. Surya is placed in the Maraka Bhava for children. Due to the Marana Karaka Sthana placement in Rashi, it may be that this child either did not survive or faced ill health. If it survived, then Surya in Kanya Rashi indicates a girl. The next child seen from the Mandooka Gati, is shown by Shukra, the 7th Lord, placed in the 8th House with Mars and Mercury. Mars shows a male child and Mercury would show a male child, as per Samir's last post, referring to Sanjay Ji's article on the web. But Mercury is retrograde, and this has been said to reverse the indications. So, Mercury would lead to a girl child. As Ketu, the Graha with which Budh is in Parivartana, is not in the house of the pregnancy, the exchange, according to Visti's last post, has no bearing on the sex of the child. From the Rashi Chakra also, debilitated Mercury in the 9th from the Upapada Lagna might give a girl as Mars would a boy. In the Saptamsha, the sign involved is Vrishchika, which is said to indicate twins due to its dual lordship. Despite the Graha Drishti of Guru to the Sun in the Saptamsha, due to the Guru Chandala Yoga in Rashi and Marana Karaka Sthana placement of the Sun as the 5th Lord, it appears from this chart that the child indicated by the Sun may not have survived. Debilitated Rahu in the 9th House puts an end to further child birth, especially as Guru is in Guru Chandala Yoga in Rashi. The doubt in analysis will come as Rahu is debilitated and Guru is placed in Gajakesari Yoga in the Saptamsha. Guru is the lord of the next child and conjoined the exalted Moon, shows a boy. Can the Neecha Rahu be jumped over? I think not, because the Gajakesari Yoga is placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the Lagna Lord of the Saptamsha, Mangal. The child cannot survive when the lord is placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the Lagna Lord in Saptamsha. So, the final opinion. Either, the first child is shown by the Sun, a girl. The next by Mars, a boy. I doubt that the child indicated by the Sun would survive. So, twins appear to be a distinct possibility, a boy and a girl, as the planets are placed in Scorpio, with the lord of Scorpio, Mars and the dual Mercury. The boy shown by exalted Moon, even if the Neecha Rahu is jumped over, which is very unlikely, cannot survive. Thus, the children indicated by Mars and Mercury appear to the best possibilities to indicate the children. In view of the nature of this chart, it would be interesting to know the actual sex of the children and the nature of child birth. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , " Jyotisa Shisya " <achyutagaddi wrote: > > |om| > Dear Anurag, > > Well that was an interesting quiz you posted and I am inclined to agree with > Visti's observation. Let me pose another chart for you all: > > Male: > 16 March 1966, 08.10 am at Salem, TN, India +5H30 > > The above native has two children. From the saptamsa, can you deduce the sex > of the children? > > Time is as per hospital discharge letter. > > best regards > Hari > > > > On 1/21/07, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > > > > > > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Vijay, Namaskar > No, you are completely wrong about the reasoning for the male chart. Ketu in > lagna will not reverse the sexes and the parivartana between Sun and Mars is > not going to work with the first child, as Sun is not in the house of the > pregnancy (aries). > > The correct reasoning was given by Samir. Here Mars is lord of the fifth > house and is placed in Leo. The straight answer is male child. > > Yours sincerely, > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dear Vistiji and Samir, Thanks for clearing the basic doubts. This is the difference of what one understands directly from guru and other by reading a book. I dont have access to Shri jagannath group, Is any permission is required to join this group. Thanks Again, Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Posted by: "Visti Larsen" visti in_joy_i_scream Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:07 am (PST) ??? ??? ??????Dear Vijay, NamaskarNo, you are completely wrong about the reasoning for the male chart. Ketu in lagna will not reverse the sexes and the parivartana between Sun and Mars is not going to work with the first child, as Sun is not in the house of the pregnancy (aries).The correct reasoning was given by Samir. Here Mars is lord of the fifth house and is placed in Leo. The straight answer is male child.Yours sincerely,-- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> Posted by: "Samir" solaris.smoke ray_of_solaris Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:32 pm (PST) || Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Vijay, Namaskar1. Here is what I was taught by Vistiji - and what I have found towork very well:- Ketu in lagna reverses the DIRECTION in which we count for children, but has nothing to do with sex.- Rahu joined LAGNESHA in saptamsa will reverse the sex of each childas determined by the normal analysis.2. Yes, of course the lord of a pregnancy itself will not show thesex. That is why I said that the Sun being in Vrischika (female sign)would normally give a girl. But this was then modified by the rules Ihave mentioned above.There were many different factors at play, and each one had to beapplied systematically to arrive at the correct answer.Best wishes,SamirVijay Goel wrote:>> Dear Anurag,> > Here i think i have done a mistake.> > Husband : mars and surya parivartana is also there, surya is in even > rashi i.e. mars act as in even rashi shows female now reverse as ketu > in lagna so final result is male.> > wife:here budh and sukra is in parivartana, here sukra is in kanya ie > budh act as in kanya exalted indicate male so final result is male.> Indeed a very difficult chart.> > Here concept of parivartana should be understood very clearly.> > Best Wishes> Vijay Goel> > -> ** Vijay Goel <goyalvj >> *To:* sohamsa <sohamsa >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:57 PM> *Subject:* Re: Saptamsha Quiz>> Dear Anurag,> > Wife : D-7: is in odd rasi leo lagna, fifth lord jupiter is with > mercury in 10 house. birth of daughter is indicated with difficulty as > 10th house is marak house of children for female.> > Husband : D-7 : is in odd rasi, Dhanu lagna with ketu in it. fifth > lord mars is in 9th house in leo rasi. Here again daughter is > indicated (male but reverse due to ketu in lagna).> > This is what i have understand by looking at D-7 alone.> > Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Vijay, Namaskar SriJagannath is moderated by Vistiji - so you just need to request membership on the " join group " page and I'm sure he will approve it. Best wishes, Samir sohamsa , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > > Dear Vistiji and Samir, > > Thanks for clearing the basic doubts. > > This is the difference of what one understands directly from guru and other by reading a book. > > I dont have access to Shri jagannath group, Is any permission is required to join this group. > > Thanks Again, > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Hari,I want to try again.1. No nodes in lagna. Even sign andhence counting is reversed.2. 9H shows the first pregnancy. Marslord is in own house conjoined two female planets, indicates a female child.Ketu however the co-lord is exalted in Gemini indicating a male child.Mars being conjoined with 2 planets will get priority in house lordshipand hence I would go for a female child.3. Next pregnancy is seen from 5H whoselord Moon is exalted, also conjoined with a male planet Jupiter and hencechild is likely to be Male.RegardsRameshachyutagaddiSent by: sohamsa 01/21/2007 11:01 PMPlease respond tosohamsa Tosohamsa ccSubjectRe: Fw: Saptamsha Quiz|om|Dear Anurag, Well that was an interesting quiz you postedand I am inclined to agree with Visti's observation. Let me pose anotherchart for you all: Male:16 March 1966, 08.10 am at Salem, TN, India+5H30 The above native has two children. Fromthe saptamsa, can you deduce the sex of the children? Time is as per hospital discharge letter. best regardsHariOn 1/21/07, Visti Larsen <vistiwrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥Dear Vijay, NamaskarNo, you are completely wrong about the reasoning for the male chart. Ketuin lagna will not reverse the sexes and the parivartana between Sun andMars is not going to work with the first child, as Sun is not in the houseof the pregnancy (aries). The correct reasoning was given by Samir. Here Mars islord of the fifth house and is placed in Leo. The straight answer is malechild.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: vistiFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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