Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYENamaste all members,I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha.A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc.I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan.Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house.1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned?Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must.2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case?* This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine.It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light.Thanking you in advance,Naresh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him “reinstalling” it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 | om gurave namah |Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages ¡ü Rath¡Çs Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü SJCERC ¡ü JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest ¡ü Sagittarius Publications---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee ChanFriday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PMSohamsaRe: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya JagannathaDear Sharat,Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him ¡Èreinstalling¡É it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti.So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :|Love,SweeOn 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat" <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaGemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet.It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed.Best wishesSharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 > sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYENamaste all members,I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha.A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc.I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan.Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house.1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned?Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must.2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case?* This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine.It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light.Thanking you in advance,Naresh avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don’t know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says “sweep the dust under the carpet” and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath’s Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him “reinstalling” it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th ¡V wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th ¡V wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat" <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 > sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Paraphrasing Sanjay ji: for Taurus lagna, wearing a diamond is ok as the 6th is the moolatrikona lord and Venus is in marana. It will make the native even more intelligent. THIS is where most get interwined with the positioning of AL and graha from lagna placements. So which one do you consider? There are two karakas for the 6th – Mars and Saturn and yet Sanjay ji says worship with jiva mantras – Jupiter. In this case, Jupiter is the moolatrikona lord of the 8th and the karaka of the 8th is Saturn. Hence the reasoning does not prove what you are trying to prove. Love, Swee P/s sorry am away, but couldn’t resist. On 1/20/07 2:26 PM, " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: Untitled Document हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Svati, NamaskarThis proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ?Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:)Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjay ji,NamasteI don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th ¡V wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :|Love,Swee | om gurave namah |Dear SweeMercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PMSohamsaRe: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya JagannathaDear Sharat,Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :|Love,SweeOn 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat" <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaGemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet.It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed.Best wishesSharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 > sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYENamaste all members,I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha.A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc.I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan.Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house.1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned?Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must.2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case?* This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine.It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light.Thanking you in advance,Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Swee, Namaskar Firstly, please throw away those Systems Approach ideas away about Mulatrikona dominating the lordship of the grahas. How will you justify that Taurus is the mulatrikona for Moon then? Mulatrikona has no bearing on the dominant lordship, and the dominant effects of the lordship can be found through the placement of the planet in the chart. I have given a paragraph about this in my book as per the instructions of Guruji. Please read it. Secondly, Sanjayji has also mentioned that for the lagnas of Venus and Mars they have an inherent problem when the lagnesh falls the OTHER own sign. I.e. for Taurus Venus falling in Libra or for Libra when Venus falls in Taurus. This invariably causes health problems as per Sanjayji and i have also seen this happening without fail in my experience. I have also spoken about this in previous discussions on this list. Specifically such natives tend to keep unhealthy until the last straw when they are forced to go to the doctor and they find themselves to be very sick. After which they may even try to 'cure themselves'. Essentially their lagna lord is misdirecting them and the remedy is to strengthen the exaltation of Venus namely Pisces and Jupiter. Sanjayji has advised a Yellow Sapphire for such natives in the past (yes 2 taurus lagnas to my memory), and in this instance he is particularly advising a mantra for Jupiter as JEEVA to get over this weakness which causes health problems. Thirdly, Mars is only a secondary karaka for the sixth house whilst Saturn is the main karaka. This is because the main significance of the sixth house is Ripu or sin, presided over by Saturn, and thus enmity (Mars) is only a result of the ripu incurred in the sixth bhava. This is from my unwritten memoirs with Sanjayji. Fourthly, all planetary positions are necessary but who cares about money (AL) if you don't have health (lagna) to enjoy it with? The weighing of factors i leave to the Jyotisha. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, Namaste Paraphrasing Sanjay ji: for Taurus lagna, wearing a diamond is ok as the 6th is the moolatrikona lord and Venus is in marana. It will make the native even more intelligent. THIS is where most get interwined with the positioning of AL and graha from lagna placements. So which one do you consider? There are two karakas for the 6th – Mars and Saturn and yet Sanjay ji says worship with jiva mantras – Jupiter. In this case, Jupiter is the moolatrikona lord of the 8th and the karaka of the 8th is Saturn. Hence the reasoning does not prove what you are trying to prove. Love, Swee P/s sorry am away, but couldn’t resist. On 1/20/07 2:26 PM, "Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:   Untitled Document हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Yasoda, Namaskar The principles you summarized are correct. However, we need not advise the gemstone, but can advise the mantra. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com yasoda krsna wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th ¡V wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat" <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 > sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hare rama krsna Dear Vistiji , still i would not go for the gemstones for the MKS planets, propitiation is better. And without lagna considerations we cant suggest gemstones . Like wise in my chart as has already been discussed virgo lagna. i have debilated mercury conjunct mars in 7th house and venus in 6th as MKS planets. 1. karak for 7th house MKS planets is venus , but that itself is MKS. also venus is afflicted by nodes and saturn, causing kalatra shapa, so such strngthening wil not work. So the next way is to like at funcational karak which is jupiter. I think y.sapphire wil work here..but again i have doubts as it is badhakesh2. karak for 6th house MKS planet is saturn , which is aspecting 6th house, but also creating the affliction to venus. But again it is 6th lord in 12th , wil u advice blue sapphire. swati Namah Shivya On 1/20/07, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna > wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen < visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, NamaskarThis proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: vistiFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan < sweechan wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjay ji,NamasteI don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says " sweep the dust under the carpet " and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love,Swee | om gurave namah |Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> â— Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> â— SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> â— JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> â— Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee ChanSent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PMSohamsaRe: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat,Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him " reinstalling " it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :|Love,SweeOn 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " < gidoc wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaGemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet.It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishesSharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYENamaste all members,I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc.I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan.Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house.1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case?* This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine.It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light.Thanking you in advance,Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Namaste Vistiji, Thanks for the reply So the mantra would be IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA PRAYER FOR SUN LIKE ADITYA HRUDAYAM OR SURYA GAYATRI IF MOON IN 8TH SHANI GAYATRI OR KALI MAA PRAYERS IF SUN IN 12TH SHANI GAYATRI OR KALI MAA PRAYERS IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH SHIVA OR PRAY VISHNU Regards yasodaVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Yasoda, NamaskarThe principles you summarized are correct. However, we need not advise the gemstone, but can advise the mantra. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com yasoda krsna wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Svati, NamaskarThis proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsenemail: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ?Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:)Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjay ji,NamasteI don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th ¡V wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :|Love,Swee | om gurave namah |Dear SweeMercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PMSohamsaRe: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya JagannathaDear Sharat,Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :|Love,SweeOn 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat" <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Ram KrishnaGemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet.It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed.Best wishesSharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 > sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYENamaste all members,I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha.A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc.I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan.Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house.1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned?Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must.2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case?* This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine.It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light.Thanking you in advance,Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 |om|Dear Sanjay, pranaams[sanjay] Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.{Hari} Why is it that Mercury has two definitions for maranakarakasthana? Going by what you have written above, can I deduce that Mercury in 4th impacts the bhava of Mithuna? Lets take an example: Mercury is exalted in the 4th house and therefore the 1st house is suffering? Can we extend this logic to the other grahas also? For the other grahas except Sun, Moon & Rahu, which rasi should I consider to see about the bhava impacted? best regardsHari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Untitled Document हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar You have a curse of spouse in your chart, i would offcourse advise mantrajapa for that. And what about that seventh houses? there is a dristi badhaka there... again its better to advise mantra. Which mantra do you think? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Hare rama krsna Dear Vistiji , still i would not go for the gemstones for the MKS planets, propitiation is better. And without lagna considerations we cant suggest gemstones . Like wise in my chart as has already been discussed virgo lagna. i have debilated mercury conjunct mars in 7th house and venus in 6th as MKS planets. 1. karak for 7th house MKS planets is venus , but that itself is MKS. also venus is afflicted by nodes and saturn, causing kalatra shapa, so such strngthening wil not work. So the next way is to like at funcational karak which is jupiter. I think y.sapphire wil work here..but again i have doubts as it is badhakesh 2. karak for 6th house MKS planet is saturn , which is aspecting 6th house, but also creating the affliction to venus. But again it is 6th lord in 12th , wil u advice blue sapphire. swati Namah Shivya On 1/20/07, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna > wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means  WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH  regards yasoda  Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan < sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti.  Confucius says "sweep the dust under the carpet" and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee   | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> â— Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> â— SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> â— JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> â— Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ----   sohamsa  [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Sent:  Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re:  GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS    Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste  You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is  propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee  and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an  asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that  has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him  "reinstalling" it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got  in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is  the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a  gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is  faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, "Sharat"  < gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org> wrote:    Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are  not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation  of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best  wishes Sharat   -    nesh_786 <nesh_786 >     sohamsa   Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56   AM  GEMSTONES FOR   MARANAKARAK PLANETS    NAMAH  SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to   gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in  maranakarak sthan  needs to be in strength to gain resistance  power (if I'm not mistaken), so  will it be advisable to suggest  the gemstone of that particular planet  after keeping into  account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in  my  horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in  maranakarak  sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor  of moon) being in  maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is  bhadeksha. Typically,  in such situation it is adivsable to wear  gemstone for Sun as 9th lord  is afflicted by its conjuction with  Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house  from lagnesh and hence its  gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in  debilitation, and as  per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn  works  magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here   my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire  after  considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is  placed in 6th House  (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th  house and thus, wearing diamond  is not advisable when  considering the lordships, but at the same time for  natives with  Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So,   will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the  above  case? * This is not my attempt to get free  consultation, but to learn  more from such peculiar cases like  that of mine. It is my earnest  request to all the learned  gurus and members to put some  light. Thanking you in  advance, Naresh      avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.      Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna : Vyom Vyasadevaya namah Dear Vistiji , Yes.. indeed.. mantras:) For the kalatra shapa, i am presently doing the Jyotirlingam mantra of tambkeshwaraya(venus) and kedarnathaya ( saturn) Along with this i am doing the mantra for my ishta , that is Mother Mahalakshmi. Also my dharma devata and palan devata, i believe is denoted by Saturn and the Vishnu form it would be Lord Akuparaya. For the dhristi badha , i have still not started, altough u recently had suggested navarna mantra of Goddess Chamunda. Can u tell me the reasons for the same what planets indicating Chamunda. How does this suit my badhaksthana placement, debilition and MKS. Pranam Swati Namah ShivyaOn 1/22/07, Visti Larsen <visti > wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar You have a curse of spouse in your chart, i would offcourse advise mantrajapa for that. And what about that seventh houses? there is a dristi badhaka there... again its better to advise mantra. Which mantra do you think? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Hare rama krsna Dear Vistiji , still i would not go for the gemstones for the MKS planets, propitiation is better. And without lagna considerations we cant suggest gemstones . Like wise in my chart as has already been discussed virgo lagna. i have debilated mercury conjunct mars in 7th house and venus in 6th as MKS planets. 1. karak for 7th house MKS planets is venus , but that itself is MKS. also venus is afflicted by nodes and saturn, causing kalatra shapa, so such strngthening wil not work. So the next way is to like at funcational karak which is jupiter. I think y.sapphire wil work here..but again i have doubts as it is badhakesh 2. karak for 6th house MKS planet is saturn , which is aspecting 6th house, but also creating the affliction to venus. But again it is 6th lord in 12th , wil u advice blue sapphire. swati Namah Shivya On 1/20/07, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna > wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen < visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan < sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says " sweep the dust under the carpet " and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> â— Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> â— SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> â— JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> â— Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him " reinstalling " it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " < gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 hare rama krishna namaskar everyone this thread is getting far too interesting so pardon my butting in, II am taurus lagna-with venus in the sixth and mercury in my chart sits in the 7th along with sun, mars and jupiter.Rahu is in the 5th, saturn in the 8th and mooon in the 12th. Speaking for myself,I can vouch for it that venus here has a pronounced propensity to give some nagging health issues that I always want to tackle on my own.I exercise and seem in perfect health but something or the other is always wrong .Ihave had 2 abdominal surgeries but strangely enough I always feel very protected by a guardian angel.after listening to visti's lecture on gems I have been seriously contemplating wearing yellow topaz. Jupiter antardasas have always been great for me- jupiter has always showered its blessings in aevry possible manner.JUpiter is also my BK. interstingly jupiter and venus sit together in d-9. with my mercury being in the 7th - yes my mantra does suffer- I keep doing some mantra or the other but lack the perseverence to carry it through. I keep seeking for the right thing forever. thank you for your time and space, anu.On 1/22/07, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar You have a curse of spouse in your chart, i would offcourse advise mantrajapa for that. And what about that seventh houses? there is a dristi badhaka there... again its better to advise mantra. Which mantra do you think? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Hare rama krsna Dear Vistiji , still i would not go for the gemstones for the MKS planets, propitiation is better. And without lagna considerations we cant suggest gemstones . Like wise in my chart as has already been discussed virgo lagna. i have debilated mercury conjunct mars in 7th house and venus in 6th as MKS planets. 1. karak for 7th house MKS planets is venus , but that itself is MKS. also venus is afflicted by nodes and saturn, causing kalatra shapa, so such strngthening wil not work. So the next way is to like at funcational karak which is jupiter. I think y.sapphire wil work here..but again i have doubts as it is badhakesh 2. karak for 6th house MKS planet is saturn , which is aspecting 6th house, but also creating the affliction to venus. But again it is 6th lord in 12th , wil u advice blue sapphire. swati Namah Shivya On 1/20/07, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna > wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen < visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan < sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says " sweep the dust under the carpet " and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> â— Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> â— SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> â— JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> â— Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him " reinstalling " it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " < gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. -- anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna : Vyom Vyasadevaya namah Dear Vistiji , Yes.. indeed.. mantras:) For the kalatra shapa, i am presently doing the Jyotirlingam mantra of tambkeshwaraya(venus) and kedarnathaya ( saturn) Along with this i am doing the mantra for my ishta , that is Mother Mahalakshmi. Also my dharma devata and palan devata, i believe is denoted by Saturn and the Vishnu form it would be Lord Akuparaya. For the dhristi badha , i have still not started, altough u recently had suggested navarna mantra of Goddess Chamunda. Can u tell me the reasons for the same what planets indicating Chamunda. How does this suit my badhaksthana placement, debilition and MKS. Pranam Swati Namah Shivya On 1/22/07, Visti Larsen <visti > wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar You have a curse of spouse in your chart, i would offcourse advise mantrajapa for that. And what about that seventh houses? there is a dristi badhaka there... again its better to advise mantra. Which mantra do you think? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Hare rama krsna Dear Vistiji , still i would not go for the gemstones for the MKS planets, propitiation is better. And without lagna considerations we cant suggest gemstones . Like wise in my chart as has already been discussed virgo lagna. i have debilated mercury conjunct mars in 7th house and venus in 6th as MKS planets. 1. karak for 7th house MKS planets is venus , but that itself is MKS. also venus is afflicted by nodes and saturn, causing kalatra shapa, so such strngthening wil not work. So the next way is to like at funcational karak which is jupiter. I think y.sapphire wil work here..but again i have doubts as it is badhakesh 2. karak for 6th house MKS planet is saturn , which is aspecting 6th house, but also creating the affliction to venus. But again it is 6th lord in 12th , wil u advice blue sapphire. swati Namah Shivya On 1/20/07, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna > wrote: Namaste Vistiji, correct me if i am wrong The way you explained it means WEAR RUBY IF SATURN IS IN LAGNA BLUE SAPPHIRE IF MOON IN 8TH BLUE SAPPHIRE IF SUN IN 12TH DIAMOND IF MARS/OR MERCURY IN 7TH regards yasoda Visti Larsen < visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Svati, Namaskar This proves the point that for a planet who is badly placed in a house, strengthen/worship the Karaka of that house. I.e. for Rahu in the ninth make Jupiter strong. For Mercury in the seventh make Venus strong, etc. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com healing spaces wrote: Jaya jagannatha Hare Rama krsna Pranam Guruji, Sanjayji and Sweeji Please correct me if i am wrong. What Sanjayji ji seems to be mentioning is that for a taurus lagna, virgo rashi ( 5th house the bhakti)becomes weak due to marana sthana of mercury. An emerald in such case would not help to make the 5th house deliver better. An emerald may deliver for different purposes, but to strengthen mooltrikona of mercury, the persons needs diamond. With the prescribed diamond the karktwa of 7th house may becomes strong, and thus further help mercury to deliver for its houses. How is sapphire and Jupiter coming into picture ? Please correct me and probably the whole chart would help better understand the example. ithink two charts are being clubbed here and so the confusion:) Swati namah Shivaya On 1/20/07, Swee Chan < sweechan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste I don't know where the Virgo lagna has come from but your reasoning is precise and crystal clear, except that for taurus lagna, Virgo is the 5th house of bhakti. Confucius says " sweep the dust under the carpet " and I will cease to ignore broad statements like Rahu in the 9th – wear a Yellow Sapphire, regardless of the Lagna. Understand that I was beginning to loose my grip :| Love, Swee | om gurave namah | Dear Swee Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Guru is from 9th house and Mercury in 7th is aspecting the 9th house and is also having argala on it. I don't know what is the CK of Mercury but it will surely help in learning. He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. For Taurus the 6th house placement is not adverse as it is its moolatrikona. The native will surely be intelligent and very smart. So diamond is not the problem - it will help more. Further, instead of gemstone for Jupiter, 'jiva' mantras would be better as marana can be overcome by JIVA (Guru or Brihaspati) as stated in Mahanarayana Upanisad and other works. Vyasa Jiva mantra is what I would prescribe. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> â— Rath's Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> â— SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> â— JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> â— Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [ sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:09 PM Sohamsa Re: GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste You mean only propitiate planets that are badly placed? So what is propitiation if gemstone is not one of them? Bala asura was a great devotee and offered severe penances even though he was an asura. His father married an asura and by association he was classified as such. I know of a chart that has Mercury in the 7th and the gentleman wears an emerald. Within days of him " reinstalling " it, his Guru who had not been in touch with him for 2 years got in touch and offered presents and blessings. He is Taurus lagna and Mercury is the moolatrikona of the 5th of Bhakti. So what do you say? Wear a gemstone for the 8th lord that is well placed? Perhaps my understanding is faulty :| Love, Swee On 1/19/07 1:45 PM, " Sharat " < gidoc wrote: Hare Ram Krishna Gemstones are not the answer for maranakarak avastha of a planet. It needs propiation of the karak of the house where such a planet is placed. Best wishes Sharat - nesh_786 <nesh_786 sohamsa Friday, January 19, 2007 7:56 AM GEMSTONES FOR MARANAKARAK PLANETS NAMAH SHIVAYE Namaste all members, I've doubt pertaining to gemstones of planets in maranakarak avastha. A planet in maranakarak sthan needs to be in strength to gain resistance power (if I'm not mistaken), so will it be advisable to suggest the gemstone of that particular planet after keeping into account its lordship etc. I've a few doubts in my horoscope itself. I have 2 planets i.e. Saturn and Venus in maranakarak sthan. Scoripo lagna, Saturn (nakshtra despositor of moon) being in maranakarak sthan is along with moon, which is bhadeksha. Typically, in such situation it is adivsable to wear gemstone for Sun as 9th lord is afflicted by its conjuction with Saturn, but then Sun is in 6th house from lagnesh and hence its gemstone is not advisable. Also, moon is in debilitation, and as per Sanjay Rath, for such a placement of Moon, Saturn works magic as it is natural karaka for the 8th house. 1) So here my question is that is it advisable to wear a Blue Sapphire after considering the above mentioned? Secondly, Venus is placed in 6th House (maranakarak sthan), it lords 7th and 12th house and thus, wearing diamond is not advisable when considering the lordships, but at the same time for natives with Venus in maranakarak sthan, diamond is a must. 2) So, will it be advisable to wear a yellow diamond considering the above case? * This is not my attempt to get free consultation, but to learn more from such peculiar cases like that of mine. It is my earnest request to all the learned gurus and members to put some light. Thanking you in advance, Naresh avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000704-0, 01/18/2007 Tested on: 1/19/2007 11:08:55 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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