Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 Namaste friends, Here are my answers to the exercises in lesson 14. Like the lesson, answers are shared with vedic astrology list too. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------- Before answering the exercises, I will make one comment on (1) the 5th house from lagna, (2) the 5th house from arudha lagna, and, (3) arudha of the 5th house. The three things stand for three different things. Basically, the 5th house stands for abilities. The 5th house from lagna shows one's true abilities, as lagna stands for true self. When we are talking about one's true ability, it is something that resides inside one. Arudha lagna (AL) shows how one's self rises in the world, i.e. how people perceive one. Every person has an image in the world. This image and the way people perceive one are seen from AL. The houses from AL show properties of this image. The 5th house from AL show the abilities of the perceived self. In other words, it shows how able the person is in the view of the world. Arudha of the 5th house (A5) shows what rises in the material world from one's abilities. One's abilities and intelligence may manifest in the world as awards, a position of power, good scores in examinations, championships, trophies etc etc. What we listed just now are things that really and physically EXIST in the material world. On the other hand, "ability of true self" is just a concept that resides within oneself and "ability of one's image/perceived self" is again just a concept that resides in the minds of people. On the other hand, A5 shows what "rises" in the material world and exists *materially*. Arudhas (literal meaning: "risen ones") do not show concepts relating to things inside one or inside people's minds, but they show things that physically manifest (rise) in the material world. These are extremely important in predictive astrology. Many traditional astrologers of Andhra and Orissa do not make any comments on a chart before drawing Arudha Chakra (showing arudhas of all houses). -------------------------- LESSON 14: BHAVA ARUDHAS © 2001 by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, SJVC I prostrate before Lord Ganesa, Lord Jagannatha, Sri Achyuta Dasa and Pt. Sanjay Rath and share my little knowledge of bhava arudhas with the fellow students of SJVC. EXERCISE 1: Find arudha padas of all the 12 houses in Chart 2. [Hint: Mars is with 2 other planets and Ketu is with only one planet. So Mars is stronger than Ketu and works as the lord of Sc. Saturn is alone and Rahu is with another planet. So Rahu is stronger and works as the lord of Aq.] +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | Asc | | | | Sat | | Glk | | | | Ven | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | AL Mar | | Rah | | | | | | Moo Sun | | Ket | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Jup | C H A R T 2 | HL | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | GL | Mnd | | | | | | | | | Mer | BL | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ (1) First house is in Ta. Lord is Venus and he is in Ta. Counting from Ta to Ta, we get a count of 1. Counting 1 signs from Ta, we get Ta. However, this is in the 1st from the original sign Ta and we take the 10th from Ta (Aq). AL is in Aq. (2) Second house is in Ge. Lord is Mercury and he is in Sg. Counting from Ge to Sg, we get a count of 7. Counting 7 signs from Sg, we get Ge. However, this is in the 1st from the original sign Ge and we take the 10th from Ge (Pi). A2 is in Pi. (3) Third house is in Cn. Lord is Moon and he is in Aq. Counting from Cn to Aq, we get a count of 8. Counting 8 signs from Aq, we get Vi. A3 is in Vi. (4) Fourth house is in Le. Lord is Sun and he is in Aq. Counting from Le to Aq, we get a count of 7. Counting 7 signs from Aq, we get Le. However, this is in the 1st from the original sign Le and we take the 10th from Le (Ta). A4 is in Ta. (5) Fifth house is in Vi. Lord is Mercury and he is in Sg. Counting from Vi to Sg, we get a count of 4. Counting 4 signs from Sg, we get Pi. However, this is in the 7th from the original sign Vi and we take the 10th from Pi (Sg). A5 is in Sg. (6) Sixth house is in Li. Lord is Venus and he is in Ta. Counting from Li to Ta, we get a count of 8. Counting 8 signs from Ta, we get Sg. A6 is in Sg. (7) Seventh house is in Sc. Lord is Mars and he is in Aq. Counting from Sc to Aq, we get a count of 4. Counting 4 signs from Aq, we get Ta. However, this is in the 7th from the original sign Sc and we take the 10th from Ta (Aq). A7 is in Aq. (8) Eighth house is in Sg. Lord is Jupiter and he is in Cp. Counting from Sg to Cp, we get a count of 2. Counting 2 signs from Cp, we get Aq. A8 is in Aq. (9) Ninth house is in Cp. Lord is Saturn and he is in Ar. Counting from Cp to Ar, we get a count of 4. Counting 4 signs from Ar, we get Cn. However, this is in the 1st from the original sign Cp and we take the 10th from Cn (Ar). A9 is in Ar. (10) Tenth house is in Aq. Lord is Rahu and he is in Cn. Counting from Aq to Cn, we get a count of 6. Counting 6 signs from Cn, we get Sg. A10 is in Sg. (11) Eleventh house is in Pi. Lord is Jupiter and he is in Cp. Counting from Pi to Cp, we get a count of 11. Counting 11 signs from Cp, we get Sc. A11 is in Sc. (12) Twelfth house is in Ar. Lord is Mars and he is in Aq. Counting from Ar to Aq, we get a count of 11. Counting 11 signs from Aq, we get Sg. UL (A12) is in Sg. EXERCISE 2: Consider the following matters. Using standard references, you can figure out the relevant house for each of the matters. Go one step ahead: Identify which of the matters live inside a native (true houses) and which of them rise in the material world (arudhas). (1) Learning This lives inside one. [Note: At this stage, let us not worry about which house and which divisional chart are relevant. We still have to learn all those details systematically. It will happen in future lessons (on varahamihira). For now, let us just develop the fundamental ability to think, differentiate and discern.] (2) Academic degrees These rise/manifest in the material world. (3) Devotion This lives inside one. (4) Reciting mantras This rises/manifests in the material world. (5) Feeling sick This lives inside one. (6) Being sick and getting treated This rises/manifests in the material world. (7) Boldness This lives inside one. (However, 3rd from lagna shows boldness that lives inside one. The 3rd from AL shows the boldness of one's image. It shows how bold one is perceived. Saints are typically perceived as mild-natured people. So most saints have benefics here.) (8) Weapons This rises/manifests in the material world. (9) Luck This lives inside one. (If we are talking about one's luck in the view of the world, it should be the 9th from AL instead of lagna). (10) Trappings of fortune These rise/manifest in the material world. (11) Judgment and discretion This lives inside one. (12) Reputation This lives inside the minds of other people. A position of power (e.g. governor of a state) or an award (e.g. man of the match award on a day in a sport) exist materially, but reputation of a person is only a concept that exists inside the minds of people. It is a property of one's image and perceived self. So this is seen from the 5th house from arudha lagna. This is neither internal nor something that rises materially. (13) Followers Followers of a person are a material manifestation of one's abilities and influence. Followers exist in the material world. So they rise in the material world (i.e. seen from arudha of the relevant house). (14) Bank balance One's bank balance exists materially. So it rises in the material world. EXERCISE 3: Consider a native with the dasamsa given in Chart 3. He had a quarrel with an international organization, over which he was stripped of world championshiop in a game. (a) Identify which house or arudha shows a public spat with a powerful body. Find it in the chart. We are taught that the 6th house shows dissatisfaction, obstacles, enemies, quarrels etc. Houses from lagna show qualities of true self which live inside a person. So the 6th house from lagna basically shows the sense of dissatisfaction, unhappiness and enmity felt by the native. Its arudha (A6) shows how this feeling manifests (rises) materially. It can manifest as a spat or quarrel. It also manifests as an enemy. So enemies, rivals, quarrels and public spats are to be seen in A6. In the given D-10, 6th house is in Vi. Lord Mercury is in Pi, 7th from Vi. The 7th from him is Vi again. As arudha of a house cannot be in the 1st/7th from a house, we take the 10th therefrom and get Ge. So A6 is in Ge. So Ge shows public spats and enemies. (b) Identify which house or arudha shows winning a championship. Find it in the chart. The 5th house shows intelligence and abilities. Its arudha (A5) show how intelligence and abilities manifest materially. Winning a championship is something that exists materially. It is the maya relating to intelligence and ability. So A5 shows it. The 5th house is Le. Its lord Sun is in Li, the 3rd from Le. The 3rd from Li is Sg. So A5 is in Sg. It shows the native's championships. © Find the rasis that shows loss of championship. [Hint: Remember that trines from a house show its prosperity. Remember Sanjay's recent guideline that the 9th house from any house is its primary protector. This is a fundamental principle. Use it!] Sanjay taught us recently, when discussing eyesight problems and hearing problems, that the 9th house from anything rules its protection. The 9th from A5 rules the protection of championship. It is Le. It is afflicted by Rahu. Its lord Sun is the primary protector and he is debilitated in Li. So the protective forces are quite weak and there is a chance for loss of championship. (d) Find the common link and identify the rasi whose Narayana dasa may have resulted in a public spat and loss of world championship. The 8th house from A5 is the primary indicator of troubles related to championship. Its lord Moon is in A6 with Venus, showing a spat and trouble to championship. Protector of championship, Sun (9th lord from A5), is debilitated in Li. Lord of Li, Venus, is in A6, showing a public spat. So Li is a strong candidate. From AL, 3rd lord shows how people perceive one's boldness (i.e. boldness of one's image). It is Sun and he is debilitated. This may show that people perceive some silly and meaningless stubbornness in the native's behavior in Li dasa. With the 9th lord from A5 debilitated in Li, Li can bring weak protection (i.e. loss) of championship. With lord in A6, this dasa can bring a quarrel. So Li dasa is a strong candidate for the results mentioned. (e) [Optional] If you are familiar with Narayana dasa computation, compute dasamsa Narayana dasa and find when this dasa runs. Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a general purpose phalita dasa): Maha Dasas: Sc: 1943-03-09 (14:29:00) - 1946-03-09 (08:53:24) Ge: 1946-03-09 (08:53:24) - 1954-03-09 (10:10:46) Cp: 1954-03-09 (10:10:46) - 1962-03-09 (11:20:28) Le: 1962-03-09 (11:20:28) - 1971-03-09 (18:38:28) Pi: 1971-03-09 (18:38:28) - 1972-03-09 (00:52:19) Li: 1972-03-09 (00:52:19) - 1980-03-09 (02:12:46) Ta: 1980-03-09 (02:12:46) - 1981-03-09 (08:17:12) Sg: 1981-03-09 (08:17:12) - 1981-03-09 (08:17:12) Cn: 1981-03-09 (08:17:12) - 1982-03-09 (14:29:19) Aq: 1982-03-09 (14:29:19) - 1988-03-09 (03:28:12) Vi: 1988-03-09 (03:28:12) - 1993-03-09 (10:11:49) Ar: 1993-03-09 (10:11:49) - 2000-03-09 (05:15:12) Sc: 2000-03-09 (05:15:12) - 2009-03-09 (12:35:24) Narayana dasa of Li runs during 1972-1980. The loss may have happened in this period. It happened in 1975 in Libra antardasa. This chart belongs to eccentric genius, Bobby Fischer, who was world chess champion during 1972-1975! He had a record victory string in world championship matches in 1971 and prevailed over Boris Spassky in 1972. There were some differences between him and FIDE (world chess body) regarding how the next championship match should be held and he was stripped of the championship in 1975. Date of Birth: March 9, 1943 Time of Birth: 2:29:00 pm Time Zone of Birth: 5:00 West of GMT Longitude of Birth: 87 W 39 Latitude of Birth: 41 N 52 +----------------------+ | | | | AL | | | Asc | | | | Mer | | Sat | Moo | | | GL | | | | | | | Ven | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Mnd | | | | | | | | Ket | | | | | | | |-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------| | | | | | | | | | JupR | C H A R T 3 | Rah | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | BL | | | | Glk | | | | | | HL | | | | Mar | | | | | | Sun | | +----------------------+ May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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