Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 Dear Alex, Namaste. Actually, Saturn is not a Maraka in his chart, but it gives some affliction on Venus, which is a Maraka. And he is in 8th from Arudha Lagna with Moon, indicating heart probelms as cause for death. Of course this combination may also indicate drug abuse. Anyway, the mentioned stone might have added to the death-inflicting effect of Saturn. You are right in your conclusion, that if a planet has malefic effects, wearing its stone could strengthen them. This is especially true for such a dire malefic as Saturn. Everyone should be careful with its stones. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET - " Alex J " <lostinmotion <varahamihira > Friday, June 08, 2001 6:18 PM [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > Namste, > > Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet he remained > depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in Saturn mahadasa. Am > I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen the effects of > the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his ascendant, doesn't > protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly? > > Warm regards, > > Alex J > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 Namaste Gauranga, Thanks for the analysis. You are correct. He died of a heart attack in Saturn-Moon cycle in the 8th from AL, and he abused various prescription drugs. Best regards, Alex J varahamihira, " Gauranga Das " <gauranga@b...> wrote: > Dear Alex, > > Namaste. > > Actually, Saturn is not a Maraka in his chart, but it gives some affliction > on Venus, which is a Maraka. And he is in 8th from Arudha Lagna with Moon, > indicating heart probelms as cause for death. Of course this combination may > also indicate drug abuse. Anyway, the mentioned stone might have added to > the death-inflicting effect of Saturn. You are right in your conclusion, > that if a planet has malefic effects, wearing its stone could strengthen > them. This is especially true for such a dire malefic as Saturn. Everyone > should be careful with its stones. > > Yours, > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > <gauranga@b...> > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > - > " Alex J " <lostinmotion@h...> > <varahamihira> > Friday, June 08, 2001 6:18 PM > [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > > > > Namste, > > > > Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet he remained > > depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in Saturn mahadasa. > Am > > I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen the effects of > > the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his ascendant, doesn't > > protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly? > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Alex J > > ____________________ ___ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > OM TAT SAT > > Archive: varahamihira > > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 AM I missing something? Pls. advise of the relevance of Elvis. I see inference here're yet from a spiritual perspective can you inform me how the "King of rock and roll" will yield Jyotish knowledge we can benefit from? Alex J [lostinmotion]Friday, June 08, 2001 9:19 AMvarahamihira Subject: [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ringNamste,Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet he remained depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in Saturn mahadasa. Am I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen the effects of the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his ascendant, doesn't protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly?Warm regards,Alex J_______________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Namste Frank, The relevance of Elvis is in determining the effectiveness of using gems related to marakas in the chart during their cycles. Some people support their use as they maintain that they remove the negative effects of the planet, while others say that the stone is impartial, it just magnifies the effects planets significations in the chart. This is a big question with gemologists that I have spoken to. In Elvis's case there is a mutual aspect between Jupiter the 2nd lord and Saturn the lord of the 3rd/4th. This renders Saturn a malefic, as Saturn takes over primary signification as a killer when related to marakas. As to how the " king of Rock and Roll " can contribute to our jyotish knowledge, he makes a fascinating study in many respects. It is plain from his D-60 that he was a very spiritual person or saint designated by the pravrajya yoga of Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Ketu in the sign of Saggittarius. These tendencies have carried into this birth, as his greatest desire and failure was to popularize and spread his gospel music to the masses. His failure was the cause of great depression for him. The desire of the soul is seen through the Karakamsa, which is conjoined Moon showing the souls desire to spread singing/music (Moon) of a spiritual kind denoted by the conjunction with Mercury in Saggittarius Karakamsa. Warm regards, Alex J varahamihira, " Frank in Austin " <fschmidt@a...> wrote: > AM I missing something? Pls. advise of the relevance of > Elvis. > I see inference here're yet from a spiritual perspective can > you > inform me how the " King of rock and roll " will yield > Jyotish knowledge > we can benefit from? > > > Alex J [lostinmotion@h...] > Friday, June 08, 2001 9:19 AM > varahamihira > [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > > > Namste, > > Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet > he remained > depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in > Saturn mahadasa. Am > I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen > the effects of > the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his > ascendant, doesn't > protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly? > > Warm regards, > > Alex J > __________ > _____________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Alex, I would say that this " saintliness " extends to his current status. There are several ELvis churches in the U.S. now, and he is worshipped as a divine entity by some in this country (and I am sure overseas). Gary Gomes - Alex J <lostinmotion <varahamihira > Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:22 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > Namste Frank, > > The relevance of Elvis is in determining the effectiveness of using > gems related to marakas in the chart during their cycles. Some people > support their use as they maintain that they remove the negative > effects of the planet, while others say that the stone is impartial, > it just magnifies the effects planets significations in the chart. > This is a big question with gemologists that I have spoken to. > > In Elvis's case there is a mutual aspect between Jupiter the 2nd lord > and Saturn the lord of the 3rd/4th. This renders Saturn a malefic, as > Saturn takes over primary signification as a killer when related to > marakas. > > As to how the " king of Rock and Roll " can contribute to our jyotish > knowledge, he makes a fascinating study in many respects. It is plain > from his D-60 that he was a very spiritual person or saint designated > by the pravrajya yoga of Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Ketu in the sign of > Saggittarius. These tendencies have carried into this birth, as his > greatest desire and failure was to popularize and spread his gospel > music to the masses. His failure was the cause of great depression > for him. The desire of the soul is seen through the Karakamsa, which > is conjoined Moon showing the souls desire to spread singing/music > (Moon) of a spiritual kind denoted by the conjunction with Mercury in > Saggittarius Karakamsa. > > Warm regards, > > Alex J > > varahamihira, " Frank in Austin " <fschmidt@a...> wrote: > > AM I missing something? Pls. advise of the relevance of > > Elvis. > > I see inference here're yet from a spiritual perspective can > > you > > inform me how the " King of rock and roll " will yield > > Jyotish knowledge > > we can benefit from? > > > > > > Alex J [lostinmotion@h...] > > Friday, June 08, 2001 9:19 AM > > varahamihira > > [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > > > > > > Namste, > > > > Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet > > he remained > > depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in > > Saturn mahadasa. Am > > I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen > > the effects of > > the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his > > ascendant, doesn't > > protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly? > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Alex J > > __________ > > _____________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Un Gary Gomes - Alex J <lostinmotion <varahamihira > Friday, June 08, 2001 9:18 AM [Jaya Jagannath] Elvis' Star Sapphire ring > Namste, > > Elvis wore a black star sapphire ring ruled by Saturn, yet he remained > depressed at least since he began wearing it and died in Saturn mahadasa. Am > I right in understanding that the gems worn only strengthen the effects of > the planets, and in his case as a bad planet for his ascendant, doesn't > protect, but rather afflicts the more strongly? > > Warm regards, > > Alex J > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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