[Hare Rama Krishna] Narayan Dasa and Sources of strength

July 22, 2001

Om Gurave Namah----

Dear Frank,

DWITEEYAM BHAVA BALAM CHARA NAVAMSE.. In Chara, Navamsa and other such Dasa, the Bhava Bala or strength of signs is reckoned from the second source of strength onwards. That is, Jupiter, Mercury and Lord of Sign aspecting/ Conjoining add strength to the sign and so on. The first strength of the sign i.e. the position of the Atmakaraka is to be ignored.

With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

-

Frank in Austin

varahamihira

Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:52 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] Narayan Dasa and Sources of strength

Namaste,

When evaluating rasis to determine which rasi is stronger to begin a Dasa calculation the following rules are used.

(See numbers 1 -6 below)

After reading Upadesa Sutra Chapter II Quarter III, 2.3.5 on Sources of Strength, I need clarification.

The general rule is to evaluate the 1st Rasi and the 7th from it. The one with the larger number of Graha's is the stronger.

YET, Mararishi Jamini suggests the first source of strength is the presence of the Atmakaraka.Hence if in evaluating the 1st and 7th from it, the 1st has 2 or 3 Graha's and the 7th has the Atmakaraka, then the 7th should

be the stronger...accoring to 2.3.5 to 2.3.13

Can one of the Guru's review this and add insight to this.

Pranams,

Rules for determining the initiation of Dasas ( for Narayan Dasa System)[ note this is laid out in this manner below because I have been writing down the rules in a WORD document to send out to the group, with Sanjay's permission and final approval when competed]

ü In Narayana dasa, as well as many other Phalita dasas[1], the strength of the 1st and 7th house from it, are considered for the initiation of dasas. The rules for these strengths are as follows:

1. If one of the above houses has a larger number of planets, then he is stronger.

2. If both houses have an equal number of planets, or if neither has any planets, then the stronger one, is the one, which is occupied or aspected by more out of:

(a.) Jupiter, (b.) Mercury and (c.) its lord

ü Note that if one of the signs/houses being compared is either Aquarius or Scorpio, who have dual lords, then either lord can be considered in this case.

3. If both competing signs have an equal number of planets, then the stronger one is the one occupied by an exalted planet. Similarly, if one is occupied by a debilitated planet, then the other is stronger.

4. Signs are stronger in order according to the following sequence: Dual>Fixed>Movable

5. A sign whose lord is in a sign of different oddity[2], is stronger than a sign whose lord is in a sign with the same oddity. For example, an odd sign whose lord is in an even sign, is stronger than an even sign whose lord is in an even sign.

6. A sign whose lord is more advanced in longitude from the beginning of its sign is stronger. Rahu and Ketu's advancement should be measured from the end of sign not the beginning[3].

[1] See Crux of Vedic Astrology Timing of Events, by Sanjay Rath – Chapter 1

[2] Note in this case we are talking about odd or even footed signs which are the following: Ar,Ta,Ge,Li,Sc,Ag are odd-footed signs , the remaining signs Cn,Le, Vi,Cp,Aq,Pi are even footed.

[3] Example: Rahu 29° Cancer would be evaluated as 30° – 29° or 1° in LongitudeOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database

July 22, 2001

Namaste Sanjay.

Thank you.

Sanjay Rath [srath] Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:10 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: [Hare Rama Krishna] Narayan Dasa and Sources of strength

Om Gurave Namah----

Dear Frank,

DWITEEYAM BHAVA BALAM CHARA NAVAMSE.. In Chara, Navamsa and other such Dasa, the Bhava Bala or strength of signs is reckoned from the second source of strength onwards. That is, Jupiter, Mercury and Lord of Sign aspecting/ Conjoining add strength to the sign and so on. The first strength of the sign i.e. the position of the Atmakaraka is to be ignored.

With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

-

Frank in Austin

varahamihira

Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:52 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] Narayan Dasa and Sources of strength

Namaste,

When evaluating rasis to determine which rasi is stronger to begin a Dasa calculation the following rules are used.

(See numbers 1 -6 below)

After reading Upadesa Sutra Chapter II Quarter III, 2.3.5 on Sources of Strength, I need clarification.

The general rule is to evaluate the 1st Rasi and the 7th from it. The one with the larger number of Graha's is the stronger.

YET, Mararishi Jamini suggests the first source of strength is the presence of the Atmakaraka.Hence if in evaluating the 1st and 7th from it, the 1st has 2 or 3 Graha's and the 7th has the Atmakaraka, then the 7th should

be the stronger...accoring to 2.3.5 to 2.3.13

Can one of the Guru's review this and add insight to this.

Pranams,

Rules for determining the initiation of Dasas ( for Narayan Dasa System)[ note this is laid out in this manner below because I have been writing down the rules in a WORD document to send out to the group, with Sanjay's permission and final approval when competed]

ü In Narayana dasa, as well as many other Phalita dasas[1], the strength of the 1st and 7th house from it, are considered for the initiation of dasas. The rules for these strengths are as follows:

1. If one of the above houses has a larger number of planets, then he is stronger.

2. If both houses have an equal number of planets, or if neither has any planets, then the stronger one, is the one, which is occupied or aspected by more out of:

(a.) Jupiter, (b.) Mercury and (c.) its lord

ü Note that if one of the signs/houses being compared is either Aquarius or Scorpio, who have dual lords, then either lord can be considered in this case.

3. If both competing signs have an equal number of planets, then the stronger one is the one occupied by an exalted planet. Similarly, if one is occupied by a debilitated planet, then the other is stronger.

4. Signs are stronger in order according to the following sequence: Dual>Fixed>Movable

5. A sign whose lord is in a sign of different oddity[2], is stronger than a sign whose lord is in a sign with the same oddity. For example, an odd sign whose lord is in an even sign, is stronger than an even sign whose lord is in an even sign.

6. A sign whose lord is more advanced in longitude from the beginning of its sign is stronger. Rahu and Ketu's advancement should be measured from the end of sign not the beginning[3].

[1] See Crux of Vedic Astrology Timing of Events, by Sanjay Rath – Chapter 1

[2] Note in this case we are talking about odd or even footed signs which are the following: Ar,Ta,Ge,Li,Sc,Ag are odd-footed signs , the remaining signs Cn,Le, Vi,Cp,Aq,Pi are even footed.

[3] Example: Rahu 29° Cancer would be evaluated as 30° – 29° or 1° in LongitudeOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database